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HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING
June 16, 2021
REGULAR MEETING
7:00 P.M.
Chairwoman Mino called the meeting to order via Zoom at 7:02 p.m.
Present: Chair Mino, Commissioners Finwall, Heimdahl, Holmes, Larson, Thueson,
Councilmember Dunker
Absent: Commissioner Walls
Staff: City Planner Wittman
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Possible approval of minutes of May 19 2021 Regular Meeting
Chairwoman Mino requested a change on page 5, the addition of the word "that."
Motion by Commissioner Larson, seconded by Commissioner Thueson, to approve the minutes of the May
19, 2021 meeting as amended. All in favor.
OPEN FORUM
There were no public comments.
CONSENT AGENDA
Resolution HPC 2021-01, Resolution Adopting Written Statement of Reasons for Denial Pursuant to
Minnesota Statutes § 15.99, Subd. 2, for a Building Demolition Permit Application for the Property
at 304 Hazel Street East, HPC Case No. 2021-10
Resolution HPC 2021-02, Resolution Adopting Written Statement of Reasons for Denial Pursuant to
Minnesota Statutes § 15.99, Subd. 2, for a Design Permit Request for a New Sign in the Downtown
Design Review Overlay District, HPC Case No. 2021-21
Motion by Commissioner Holmes, seconded by Commissioner Finwall, to adopt the Consent Agenda. All
in favor.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. 2021-23: Consideration of the consolidated Heritage Preservation Design Guidelines updates.
City of Stillwater, applicant
City Planner Wittman stated that the HPC's consolidated design guidelines are almost completed.
Existing guidelines for signs and awnings were reviewed to determine which guidelines should be
codified into the City Code. She reviewed a list of the proposed standards and design guidelines.
Chair Mino opened the public hearing. There were no public comments. The public hearing was
closed.
Commissioner Holmes suggested placing the guidelines either earlier in the document or all at the
end.
Councilmember Dunker asked if staff is comfortable with the approach to multi -tenant signs
downtown.
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Ms. Wittman said she would take a look at multi -tenant sign guidelines. She asked that Commissioner
comments be submitted to her by June 30. The document will be back in July for final consideration.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Case No. 2021-20: Consideration of a Design Permit for a 2nd and 3rd story residential addition.
Property located at 225 2nd St N in the Downtown Design Review District. Nat Shea-Tanek. Inc., applicant
and Archangel Assets 4 LLC, property owner. -Tabled from the May meeting.
Ms. Wittman stated that Michael Russ, Archangel Assets 4 LLC, proposes to add two stories to this
commercial structure to accommodate two living units. The overall height of the structure as
measured from the 2nd Street right-of-way conforms to the Central Business District's height overlay
maximum of three stories and 37'. In May, the Commission noted the proposal does not fit with its
surroundings, and the design, materials and color represent a jarring contrast within the 2nd Street
North streetscape. Commissioners directed the applicant to explore design alternatives that better
conform to the design guidelines. On June 10 the property owner submitted an updated design. The
new design breaks up the two-story addition with approximately 40% of the building (on the west)
containing large, uniform window bays on the north and west elevations. This `front' portion of the
building contains a large cornice and the back (easterly) portion maintains the originally -proposed
flat wall and roof. Though the height of the building does not appear to be changed, the front portion
of the building appears slightly taller than the back portion. An open-air stairwell access is shown in
black with a metal facade. The new design maintains painting the existing concrete masonry building
in black and utilizing white horizontal fiber cement boards and black corrugated metal panels on the
two story addition. The applicant is requesting approval of a Design Permit for the 2nd and 3rd story
residential addition. While the additions are broken up into units of scale, this does not inherently
help the mass and bulk of the structure. The combination of white and black, in areas where there is a
high prevalence of brick, increases the likelihood this building will unnecessarily stand out, making it
incompatible with the general area. Overall, the height, scale, mass and proportion of the proposed
alterations, including materials, color and detailing are not compatible with the site and its
surroundings. Therefore, staff recommends denial of the request.
Councilmember Junker referred to discussion at the May meeting about the north and south sides
lacking windows due to fire codes.
Ms. Wittman responded that building code requirements limit the openings within certain distance to
property lines. This was discussed with the applicant. There is also an option to install fire -rated glass.
Chair Mino asked if the north and west windows will have fire -rated glass.
Michael Russ, applicant, said he intends to use fire -rated glass and may add some small transom
windows. He would prefer to address the overall design. He is trying to create a unique building that
increases density, per the City's Comprehensive Plan, yet he is hearing his building is not appropriate
because of other buildings.
Chairwoman Mino said she understands the applicant's frustration. The Design Guidelines are part of
the challenge. She stated that the guidelines are specific that all infill buildings and facades should be
composed of materials similar to the adjacent facades.
Mr. Russ said he believes he made the changes in the materials as requested by the Commission.
Chair Mino responded that in the last meeting concrete masonry was discussed as a possibility but
brick was also discussed.
Mr. Russ said he feels the City in theory wants him to turn this cinder block building into another red
brick building. It will not look right to make a 60s modern building look like an 1800s brick building.
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Commissioner Larson asked if windows have been added on the south.
Mr. Russ replied after speaking with Ms. Wittman about fire -rated glass, he would like to add one
window to the east of the elevator shaft.
Ms. Wittman said the building inspector should be consulted about what size opening is allowed.
Mr. Russ said the windows will comply with whatever is allowed by building code.
Chairwoman Mino asked if the project will come back to the HPC if substantial changes need to be
made due to building code.
Ms. Wittman answered that a standard condition of approval is that major modifications would
require approval by the HPC.
Commissioner Larson referred to the requirement that new infill buildings should fit into the
streetscape fabric, and should not present a jarring contrast. He struggles with the fact that this mass
is one story at the front and jumps up to three stories at the back If there were a two-story building
built right to the front, it would fit from a massing standpoint. If it were three stories tall built right to
the front, he is not sure if that would fit. Not only does it not seem to relate well to the rest of the
context but it doesn't seem to relate well to itself. It looks like two buildings. He is not sure the
massing can be fixed by changing the details or materials.
Mr. Russ asked what would happen when other nearby buildings want to add two stories. Somebody
at some point is going to have to build something.
Commissioner Larson replied if surrounding buildings go up two stories in the future, they probably
won't be one story in front and three stories in back
Commissioner Holmes commented there are things beyond the control of the applicant that make this
a challenge, specifically the carrying capacity of the front part of the building not being capable of
supporting an addition, therefore pushing the additions back, making it a jarring change. The two
parts don't feel unified. At the last meeting the Commission said the design should be simplified.
Mr. Russ responded the original design was simpler and much more conforming to the current
structure.
Nat Shea, architect, said the new design was an attempt to break up the blank walls. They cannot
change the massing from the front, and are still limited to no windows on the north side due to code.
Councilmember Junker said there are only two predominantly metal buildings downtown, plus a
couple of cinder block buildings with brick on two sides. They conform more to the guidelines and
character of other buildings. Yes, there will be other requests but so far the requests coming in are
predominantly brick with accents of metal or stone. There have to be ways to incorporate brick to tie
into the existing character of the downtown.
Commissioner Larson noted he is sympathetic to the applicant's dilemma given the site constraints.
The structure can only be so tall. If the building is not constructed right up to the property line,
windows would be allowed. With a setback of up to 10', there could be up to 25% openings.
Commissioner Finwall said the new design is an improvement, but she agreed with concerns about
massing. The building looks odd along Second Street. She asked why the applicant does not demolish
the front portion and build on the whole site.
Mr. Russ replied the requirements for parking don't allow for that scenario. From an economic
standpoint, rebuilding all the office space doesn't make sense. The offices have seven great tenants
and he does not want to disrupt them.
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Ms. Wittman summarized that many of the Commissioners struggle with the massing of the building,
despite its conformance to the height requirements. This seems to be a bigger issue than materials.
Motion by Commissioner Larson, seconded by Commissioner Finwall, to deny Case No. 2021-20, Design
Permit for a 2nd and 3rd story residential addition located at 225 2nd St N. All in favor.
NEW BUSINESS
Case No. 2021-25: Consideration of a Design Permit for a new residential apartment complex at 107 3rd
St N in the Downtown Design Review District Nathan Landucci applicant and Jon Whitcomb property
owner and Mark and Cathy Balay.property. owners
Ms. Wittman reviewed the application. Landucci Homes is proposing to construct a 42-unit apartment
that will span the property line with 110 Myrtle Street East where the new structure will extend
behind the historic house located there. The total enclosed gross square footage of the building is
57,258 square feet. A Design Permit is required prior to the City Council's consideration of the
Conditional Use Permit. Facing Third Street North, the building will be three stories clad in a light
brick veneer. A recessed fourth story, clad in gray vertical metal panels is proposed. Uniform windows
and patios, as well as the building's parapet, will be clad in a flat black metal. Wrapping around to
Myrtle Street East, a garage exit will be located at the street level. A garage entrance, accessed from
the existing 110 Myrtle Street East driveway will serve as a vehicle entrance. With this walk -out
design, from Myrtle Street East the building will have a five -story appearance; in this area, dark,
vertical metal panel is proposed on the four upper -most stories. Uniform window shapes and black
metal balconies are carried around on all sides with the exception of the south elevation where the
right-of-way and existing 1-1/2 story residence exist. The proposed development aims to meet the
City's standards and guidelines within the Downtown Design Review District The applicant is
requesting variances for height which will be considered by the Planning Commission. The building's
height - though a stepped design - is not compatible. The mass dominates and jeopardizes the
integrity of historic buildings within the vicinity, including the Lowell Inn. Therefore, staff
recommends denial of the proposed request.
Councilmember Junker asked if the proposed building overtakes portions of the parking lot to the
north.
Ms. Wittman noted the parking lot is owned by Jon Whitcomb. There are seven parking spaces and
there was an agreement those would be used for public access to the parking ramp. There is a portion
of land that is public property that includes a retaining wall. The applicant has requested that the City
Council consider a lot line adjustment so that the lot line is clearly defined.
Nathan Landucci, Landucci Development, applicant, told the Commission he has a purchase
agreement with both Jon Whitcomb and the Balays. The previous proposal for this site featured four
stories on the front and five stories on the back The current proposed heights are consistent with the
previous proposal. He is able to meet the parking requirements. The proposal features a lot of brick
and vertical metal echoing the design of the previous proposal.
Commissioner Finwall asked what will be done with the existing Balay house.
Mr. Landucci replied that the house will be owned by the development and will be one of the units for
rent. The renters will have access to the amenities in the larger building. The house is in good
condition and he believes it will fit with the landscaping.
Ms. Wittman noted the house is the second oldest wood frame structure in the downtown area.
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Councilmember Junker stated that he has no issue with the use of brick and metal but the building
size is like trying to put a northern pike into a guppy fishbowl. The building overtakes the entire
corner from every angle.
Mr. Landucci pointed out the proposed width is the same as the Legion building and is only 12-15 feet
wider than what was previously approved for the site. The benefit of owning the Balay property is the
use of the Balay driveway as the entrance to the parking, allowing right -in, right -out. He is alright with
not incorporating the Balay property but he feels owning it is a good way to retain the house.
Councilmember Junker pointed out this proposal has 42 units as opposed to 9 previously approved,
making for much more traffic.
Mr. Landucci countered that the right turn in and right turn out, not crossing traffic on Myrtle, is a
benefit. From a density standpoint, his project is similar to the Chestnut building that was approved.
Ms. Wittman said a traffic study will be completed and it will be discussed by the Planning
Commission.
Chair Mino pointed out that the HPC denied a fourth story on the Chestnut Building and it was
appealed.
Ms. Wittman stated the building is proposed to be 48 feet high, and the applicant is asking for an 11
1/2 foot height variance (variance from 37' and 3 stories) which will be addressed by the Planning
Commission. The Planning Commission will have to wrestle with the number of stories. The HPC
looks at the mass and bulk.
Commissioner Larson asked about the design on the side that faces the Lowell Inn.
Mr. Landucci replied the retaining wall will be removed and the building itself will be the structural
foundation.
Commissioner Larson said he likes the use of the driveway to reduce traffic impacts. The massing
looms the most on the east. If that side were stepped back it would have less impact.
Mr. Landucci said with the parking garage and an empty lot next door, the building does not really
impact a lot of buildings. The most impacted is the house and that is why it makes sense to acquire it.
Commissioner Thueson remarked the design has a lot of positive aspects but his greatest concern is
from the "bowl" looking up, and the building overwhelms the house. It might help if there were some
sort of local designation for the house to ensure it would be well maintained.
Mr. Landucci said he does not think the roofline of this building will be visible from Second Street
over the Lowell Inn.
Commissioner Larson stated the idea of reinforcing the corner with a building is a good idea, and
three stories is reasonable, but he has an issue with the fourth story. Stepping the building back
would lessen the massing but in this location it would stand out too much. He asked what makes this
building fit Stillwater.
Mr. Landucci answered the extensive use of brick and metal. It is a modern contemporary design, not
historic. It echoes the Reuter Walton building and also has a railing cornice feature.
Councilmember Junker commented this building sticks out on the corner, particularly with the fourth
floor. It will make the Balay house look like a little dog house.
Mr. Landucci argued that none of the important views from the house will be lost. The viewshed of the
house is not affected by this building.
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Ms. Wittman added that the height overlay district is concerned not only with the views to the river,
but also the view from the river.
Commissioner Heimdahl said he feels the layout of this project encompasses the site a lot better than
the previously approved project Massing is not as much of a problem as it does not seem to stand out
as much, possibly because it is going down the hill.
Commissioner Finwall said she does not think the design integrates the house very well into the site.
The structure is too massive. She does not support the height. The building should be stepped back on
the east elevation to integrate the house better. There is a lot of metal on the structure which has not
been discussed. If it is tabled the HPC should require some stepping back and reduced height.
Mr. Landucci responded there is no way to build on the site without dwarfing the house.
Commissioner Holmes noted the house is impacted negatively but this is an important site that will be
developed and the house will be impacted by whatever is built there. The plan makes the house a well
preserved curiosity which is not ideal but better than having it torn down. He struggles with the
fourth floor and with the amount of metal.
Mr. Landucci said he is open to using more brick.
Chairwoman Mino said it is worth looking again at stepping back the east side to give the house more
of a presence. She has a hard time with the building wrapping around the house, overwhelming it.
Ms. Wittman summarized the direction for the applicant: remove the fourth floor and possibly the
third floor; explore breaking up the metal on east with some brick; step back the building on the east
side; explore more landscaping in between the two buildings; explore changing the window and
balcony placement toward the Balay property so they don't overlook the house.
Motion by Commissioner Holmes, seconded by Commissioner Heimdahl, to table Case No. 2021-25,
Design Permit for a new residential apartment complex at 107 3rd St N, asking the applicant to bring
back design changes based on Commission input: 1) remove the uppermost story; 2) step back the east
side of the building toward the 110 Myrtle Street property (Balay); 3) remove the easternmost third and
fourth stories behind the Balay property; 4) break up the metal with brick, and consider a brick color
more in line with other brick in the area; 5) landscape between the two buildings to create more privacy
and separation; and 6) explore different window and balcony placement facing the Balay property. All in
favor.
OTHER DISCUSSION ITEMS
Historic Use Variance Zoning Text Amendment
Ms. Wittman said the City received an application for a zoning text amendment to allow for heritage
preservation use variances. State law doesn't allow the City to grant a use variance but it states that
Heritage Preservation Commissions may do so. An interested property owner and potential purchaser
of property would like to amend the City Code. The proposed amendment will be heard by the
Planning Commission and then the City Council. The formal request is to convert the William Sauntry
Mansion into a real estate sales office. The Planning Commission's recommendation will come back to
the HPC's next meeting after the Planning Commission holds the public hearing on whether to grant a
heritage preservation use variance. She explained the draft proposal and the proposed amendment
The intent is to ensure the use will fit within the neighborhood. She said tonight's discussion is not
about the William Sauntry Mansion, but rather, if the HPC has any recommendations on the proposed
zoning text amendment. She added that Commissioner Thueson would like the HPC to discuss the
requirement that when a heritage preservation use variance is granted, the City require that property
be subject to design permitting review by the HPC to ensure preservation of the property.
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Commissioner Larson voiced support for the idea that a house that is not being sold or used, is given a
chance to remain with a different use, rather than falling into disrepair.
Commissioner Finwall asked if this amendment were not in place, could an applicant instead request
a rezoning of the property?
Ms. Wittman replied they could, but the state also prohibits spot zoning. Most of these mansions are in
the middle of residential districts.
Stillwater Public Library MDL Scanning Project - Volunteers Requested
Ms. Wittman asked if anyone is interested in volunteering to help add metadata to scanned photos
from the 1980s and 1990s under a grant received by the Stillwater Public Library. Commissioner
Thueson agreed to help. He suggested posting the request on one of the Stillwater Facebook pages.
State Historic Preservation Conference
Ms. Wittman reported that the Conference will be held and Stillwater will participate. She has been
working with Commissioner Heimdahl to develop a Rethos and Northern Bedrock window
restoration class to be aired at the Conference.
Commissioner Requests
Commissioner Larson asked if the cornice lights that were on the buildings for Christmas are still up.
Commissioner Junker replied they are in place but are to be turned off.
Commissioner Larson said he noticed a new structure on top of Portside.
Ms. Wittman stated it was illegally constructed and is not to code. She also reported that the applicant
was given 30 days notice to remove the CBD House sign that was denied by the HPC. Heritage
Preservation Awards are not scheduled. She suggested waiting till fall, maybe during the Conference.
Commissioner Thueson said maybe the awards could be presented in October for the City's birthday.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Thueson, seconded by Commissioner Larson, to adjourn. All in favor. The
meeting was adjourned at 9:27 p.m.
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ATTEST:
Abbi Wittman, City Planner
Resolution HPC 2021-01, Resolution Adopting Written Statement of Reasons for Denial Pursuant to
Minnesota Statutes § 15.99, Subd. 2, for a Building Demolition Permit Application for the
Property at 304 Hazel Street East, HPC Case No. 2021-10
Resolution HPC 2021-02, Resolution Adopting Written Statement of Reasons for Denial Pursuant to
Minnesota Statutes § 15.99, Subd. 2, for a Design Permit Request for a New Sign in the
Downtown Design Review Overlay District, HPC Case No. 2021-21
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