HomeMy WebLinkAbout2021-06-29 DTPC MIN - Special Meeting
DOWNTOWN PARKING COMMISSION MEETING
June 29, 2021
Chair McAllister called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Chair McAllister, Commissioners Anderson, Hopfe, LePage, Council Liaison Junker
Absent: Commissioner Glynn
Staff present: City Planner Wittman, Zoning Administrator Tait, Community Development Director
Gladhill
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Possible approval of minutes of May 20, 2021 meeting
Motion by Commissioner Anderson, seconded by Commissioner Hopfe, to approve the May 20, 2021
meeting minutes. All in favor.
Possible approval of minutes of May 11, 2021 special meeting
Motion by Commissioner Anderson, seconded by Chair McAllister, to approve the May 11, 2021 special
meeting minutes. All in favor.
OPEN FORUM
There were no public comments.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
There was no unfinished business.
NEW BUSINESS
107 3rd St N Proposed new residential apartment building project
City Planner Wittman explained that Landucci Homes would like to construct a 42-unit apartment
complex at 107 3rd Street North. The development will span the property line with 110 Myrtle Street
East, retaining the existing single family residence on that site. The existing single family home will
retain its attached two-car garage. So, for the purposes of Downtown Parking Commission
consideration, that structure’s parking is not included in this parking mitigation discussion. The
developer is proposing to construct 32 underground spaces and two uncovered spaces outside of the
building. The reconfiguration of the site will result in a loss of six parking spaces in Municipal Parking
Lot 13. These spaces, however, are not located wholly on public land. The reconfiguration will remove
the southern-most access drive. A traffic study is being prepared. With the one-way in/out, it is
anticipated three additional spaces could be added to the southerly parking stalls. When the City’s
municipal parking ramp was constructed, the City entered a development agreement with Trinity
Lutheran Church (then owner of 107 3rd Street North) and 102 Second LLC (the Lowell Inn). As part
of that agreement, the City credited Trinity Lutheran Church with 40 parking spaces for future
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development of the 107 3rd Street North property for commercial uses. In 2017 the City Council
approved a transfer of these credits from Trinity Lutheran Church to the current property owner,
Browns Creek West LLC, to construct no greater than 12 units on the site. That project was never
constructed. The current developer is requesting re-assignment of the 40 stall parking ramp credit.
They are requesting the Downtown Parking Commission’s recommendation regarding: 1) a Variance
or mitigation of 45 required parking spaces; 2) a Variance of the 10 covered parking space
requirement; and 3) Assignment of the 40-space credit currently assigned to Browns Creek West LLC.
Staff would not recommend a variance to the City Code as there is no justification for granting one;
the requirements could be met if the total number of units were reduced. Staff believes any ratio less
than 1.5 parking spaces per unit provided on site is shortsighted.
Nathan Landucci, applicant, reiterated that they can provide 32 parking spaces underground plus two
outdoors. They figured the three parking spots in the current driveway to the house would be
captured in the public space, so the 34 plus the 3 and then the 40 space credit equals 77. That was
their math coming up with the unit count.
Councilmember Junker asked if it was assumed that 40 spaces would be used in the parking garage.
Mr. Landucci said yes, that was his assumption because every time he drives through the parking
ramp it seems empty. When he learned 40 spots were grandfathered in, he thought that would count
toward the parking requirement. After talking with City Planner Wittman today, he devised a new
plan for a car stacking system called multi-parking which automatically shifts the cars like a vending
machine. With this type of system, he can gain 7 more spaces, meaning essentially he would have 42
spaces on site. The cost for the automated system is about $25,000 per space plus some annual
maintenance costs. It uses relatively low power and is very efficient. This system would be an amenity
for residents.
Councilmember Junker asked about the demographics and range of rent.
Mr. Landucci responded that rents for the one bedroom and alcoves will be around $1,550-
1,600/month and the two bedroom units will rent for around $2,200. He added that even in
Stillwater, not everyone has a car or wants a car. Renters generally have fewer cars than condo
owners.
Councilmember Junker commented that people who will pay $1,600-2,200 rent will have cars.
Stillwater is definitely suburban, not urban.
Mr. Landucci responded that more people are using Uber and other ride shares. In the next few years
he may consider having a couple cars owned by the development that could be rented by the hour.
Commissioner Anderson noted that the DTPC has been very firm that developers must take care of
their parking needs. Those 40 cars will float around where? The City can only allow so many resident
parking permits in the ramp and there are only so many on-street parking spaces.
Councilmember Junker remarked, with the 200 Chestnut development 39 space deficit and the 40
spaces for this building, that will mean 80 cars within a block that have nowhere to go. In the Mills,
Terra Springs, and Lofts condos downtown, there are 346 units. Those three condo developments
have provided 761 on site spaces equating to 2.12, almost 2.2 spaces per unit that put absolutely no
parking burden on downtown Stillwater. Now the City is looking at 100 new units between the two
developments and being 80 spaces short - it’s a big deal.
Commissioner Hopfe added that the location at the top of a hill means walking up and down hills,
especially difficult in winter. Representatives from the senior housing building have often asked for
more space in the ramp, which cannot be given because of the ramp construction agreement.
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Mr. Landucci said he wants to make sure there is enough parking because otherwise he will not be
able to rent the units. But he is seeing more and more rental units where one car per unit is enough.
People are working at home more. He does not want to build in parking that is not needed.
Commissioner Anderson said if 77 was the target number and Mr. Landucci was proposing numbers
in the 60s, the DTPC could have that conversation. But he proposing fewer than one space per unit.
Mr. Landucci said he can change the parking numbers on the fly. He added four stalls that gained a net
seven spaces. That can be replicated in other parts of the lot. The total requirement is 63, plus the 14
guests equals 77. He would hope the guest parking wouldn’t have to be indoors.
Councilmember Junker pointed out in his condo building, the rents vary from $2,000 to $3,500. Two
parking spaces per unit are absolutely full. Even at $1,600 rent for one bedroom units there will
probably be two people living there, with two cars.
Chairwoman McAllister said downtown Stillwater has little experience with this type of housing, so
it’s unknown how these high end rental units will be utilized. Stillwater is unique and walkable and
it’s possible to live without a car, yet most people who live here work elsewhere. Guest parking may
be able to be mitigated but she feels the DTPC should uphold the requirement that any new
development needs to take care of all its parking on site.
Mr. Landucci asked if the DTPC has any flexibility to reduce the 1.5 space ratio.
Commissioner Anderson asked what each space costs.
Mr. Landucci replied a normal parking space costs $17,000. The automated system costs $25,000 per
space in addition to the $17,000. For 11 spaces the automated system is a $300,000 proposition.
Councilmember Junker stated the Myrtle/Third Street intersection is the biggest artery coming into
downtown Stillwater. He feels this is literally creating a monster on the corner of Third and Myrtle
where cars are going to be parking anywhere they can. He added it is almost impossible to get an Uber
in Stillwater.
Commissioner Anderson added that with the potential expansion of Trinity Church, that corner will
only get busier.
Mr. Landucci again asked if the DTPC is willing to mitigate the 14 guest spaces. He also asked if they
would consider the 40 grandfathered spaces to include the 14 guest spaces.
Chair McAllister replied that allowing guest spaces to be mitigated would be consistent with previous
decisions but until it is clear that the development can accommodate all resident parking on site, that
is a moot point.
Mr. Landucci asked if he would have to pay a parking mitigation fee.
Commissioner Anderson replied $20,000 per space under current policy.
Mr. Landucci asked if the 40 grandfathered spaces have any value to this use.
Councilmember Junker said that is a good question. That 40 space credit doesn’t do anything from the
standpoint of physically providing any parking.
Ms. Wittman noted if the Commission sticks to the 1.5 per unit ratio, Mr. Landucci’s development does
not meet that. There may have to be a reduction in units, which would mean a reduction in guest
parking requirements.
Mr. Landucci said under another scenario, he can get 63 spaces indoors by expanding the stacking
system. This would meet the 1.5 total resident spaces required, but if he spends a million dollars on
the stacking machines to accommodate 63 cars, he can’t also pay $20,000 each for 14 guest spots. The
14 guest spots will not be used all the time - maybe 3-4 on average will be used. He asked, if he can get
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the 1.5 resident spaces underground, would the Commission consider absorbing the 14 guest spaces
in the system via the grandfather agreement? There is a limit to the cost he can endure before the
project is no longer viable.
Ms. Wittman noted aerials show the top of the ramp is typically empty. The City cannot allow for
additional resident parking in the ramp, but there may be capacity there for the guest parking.
Chair McAllister pointed out they would not be able to park in the ramp overnight so it’s not a
solution for guest parking. There are only 25 resident permits in the ramp.
Commissioner Hopfe added that in the winter there would only be half as much on-street parking, due
to odd/even parking.
Mr. Landucci said he hopes that 40 spaces grandfathered in is worth something.
Chair McAllister summarized the Commission has tried to convey that the development must meet all
residential parking requirements on site. The Commission would be happy to discuss it again if Mr.
Landucci does further planning related to mitigation and guest parking.
Community Development Director Gladhill recognized that staff needs to work with the developer on
potential options.
Ms. Wittman added the proposal is within the 60 day timeframe, which also can be extended.
Motion by Commissioner McAllister, seconded by Commissioner Anderson, to table the request for
additional information. All in favor.
200 E Chestnut On-street parking closure during construction
Zoning Administrator Tait explained that the developer of 200 Chestnut Street East requested an
analysis of what it would cost to reserve 20 on-street parking stalls for the use and storage of
construction equipment for an estimated duration of 13 months. The DTPC is being asked to provide a
recommendation to the City Council regarding the fee. City staff calculated that it would cost
$45,660.00 to use 20 on-street parking stalls surrounding the building site for 13 months.
Councilmember Junker said the construction workers’ vehicles also should be considered. The City
made the work force of the Laura and the Crosby buy passes for their vehicles. Also, keep in mind that
people from several businesses park on that site right now - they will all be displaced by construction.
Chair McAllister summarized that the Commission is not recommending a reduction in cost but that
the Council consider requiring the purchase of parking permits for not only the project workers but
also for people who they’re taking spots away from.
Motion by Chair McAllister, seconded by Commissioner LePage, to recommend that the City charge the
base fee and not offer a reduced fee, for a total of 13 months, $45,660 for 20 spaces. All in favor.
DISCUSSION
Survey
Councilmember Junker shared that he received a parking survey with a QR code when he parked his
car in Hudson last weekend. This may be a clever way to get input.
FYI STAFF UPDATES
There were no staff updates.
ADJOURNMENT
Chair McAllister adjourned the meeting at 8:09 p.m.
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Heidi McAllister, Chair
ATTEST:
Graham Tait, Zoning Administrator