HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995-06-05 HPC MINHERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
June 5, 1995
Present: Jeff Johnson, chairman
Robert Kimbrel, Howard Lieberman (8:15),
Jay Michels, Brent Peterson, and Roger Tomten
Others: Steve Russell, community development director, Susan
Fitzgerald, planning
Absent: Katherine Francis, Todd Remington
Mr. Johnson called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved to approve the minutes of
the May 1, 1995, meeting. All in favor.
Case No. DR195-9 Design Review permit for signs at 501 N. Main St. Robert
Miller, applicant
Robert Miller appeared regarding the request. Mr. Johnson noted that only
one sign per business is allowed; two signs were shown. Mr. Miller said he
could get by with just one sign. Mr. Johnson further noted the maximum
allowable size of the signage is 25 square feet; 32 feet were shown on the
proposed design drawings. Mr. Miller said he would stay within the 25 feet
maximum. The coloring of the sign will be a light yellow background with
red lettering.
Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval with the condition
that the sign not exceed 25 square feet; all in favor. Mr. Johnson asked Mr.
Miller to submit the final colors to staff for review.
Qase No. ❑R19�-12. Design Review permit for wall sign at 501 N. Main St.
(south building). Jeff Main, applicant.
Mr. Main was not present. Mr. Russell told members the request is
consistent with the already existing signage. Mr. Johnson noted the
request is basically dealing with a name change.
Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Kimbrel, moved approval; all in favor.
Ca,5u Igo. DR/25-11. Design Review permit for wall signs at 402 N. Main St.
(Staples Mill). Moffat David Personnel Services, applicant.
A representative of Presto Graphics, the firm that is doing the signage,
appeared regarding the request. Moffat David is taking over the space
previously occupied by Stonebridge Ballet. The request is for a 202 foot
sign centered over the main doorway. Sample materials and layouts were
provided.
Mr. Johnson expressed his concern regarding the multiple tenants in the
building and the possibility for requests for additional signage. Mr. Russell
concurred with that concern, and suggested writing a letter to building
owner Monty Brine regarding the concern for a potential problem. Mr.
Johnson said the proposed signage would work fine for one tenant, but he
reiterated his concern regarding multiple tenants. Mr. Peterson noted the
request under consideration is for Moffat David, not for the building
owner.
Mr. Michels moved approval, with a letter to be sent to Mr. Brine asking
him to attend the next HPC meeting to discuss the Commission's concern.
Mr. Peterson seconded the motion; all in favor.
Case No. ❑Rl2b-1 Q. Design Review permit for projecting sign at 221 E.
Chestnut St. Charles and Yvonne Cabella, applicants.
Mr. Russell said the request is within guidelines. The sign will be eight
feet off the sidewalk and will not be lighted.
Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Tomten, moved approval; all in favor.
Todd Newman, representing
Andersen
Corp., appeared regarding the
request. Mr.
Johnson noted
the request
is for a 300-square foot sign,
which is still
less than allowable. Mr. Newman said an address would be
added to the
sign; the sign will
be lighted
by three ground level spotlights.
Mr. Johnson
asked whether
the existing
awning on the building will be
removed. Mr.
Newman said it
has not been
decided whether to remove the
awning or paint
it.
Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Kimbrel, moved approval; all in favor.
Mr. Newman briefly went over some new landscaping Andersen will be
doing along the east property line. Upon questioning by Mr. Russell, he said
the lights in the parking lot have not been removed at this time, but they
will be turned off.
Modificathan of -approval for pogcorn wagon logaion at Water n d Chestnut
streets. Laura Eilkenborg, applicant.
Ms. Eilkenborg appeared regarding the request. She said she has found
since opening the business that the wagon needs to be moved forward on
the site in order to be more visible from Main Street.
Several members expressed concern about the closeness of the wagon to
the sidewalk and the Water/Chestnut street intersection. There was a
suggestion that a sandwich board be used to attract business, rather than
moving the wagon. Ms. Eilkenborg agreed that would be preferable, but she
said she would still like to move the wagon forward on the site for this
season and then move it back next year when people are familiar with its
existence. Ms. Eilkenborg said she would be willing to try the sandwich
board for a week, but noted that moving the wagon forward on the lot will
provide increased visibility for all sides, not just Main Street.
An original motion of approval by Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Michels,
was amended to allow the wagon to be moved forward this season on a
trial basis, with a review prior to next season. All in favor.
Other items
o Doug and Deb Thorsen, new owners of the Laurel Street Inn, appeared
before the Commission. They said they plan to live in the home and operate
it as a three suite bed and breakfast, as it has been in the past. They hope
to be in business in July and have planned an open house for June 25.
• North Hill Survey -- Mr. Johnson said the survey will be completed by
the end of June. The final report will be available at the July meeting. Due
to the July 4 holiday, the meeting was set for July 5.
• Demolition ordinance -- Mr. Russell said he hoped to have a draft
ordinance ready for the July 5 meeting. Mr. Kimbrel asked whether the
Commission should suggest that the City Council impose a moratorium on
building demolitions until an ordinance is enacted. Mr. Russell agreed that
would be a good idea; he suggested rather than a complete moratorium,
there be some type of review process. Mr. Tomten suggested a moratorium
on demolitions without proper review. Staff will make that
recommendation to the City Council on behalf of the Heritage Preservation
Commission.
• The City has been notified it is the recipient of a $4,500 Local
Government Grant to conduct a South Hill survey in 1996.
• The City also has been notified that the SHPO has determined the
landscape in Lowell Park to be of historical significance. Mr. Russell said
that determination may have some impact on how the Lowell Park Plan is
implemented. Mr. Michels asked what changes might occur to the Lowell
Park/levee wall project as a result of the finding. Mr. Russell said the
tendency is to consider a lower profile as more in keeping with original
designs. Mr. Johnson said he thought the finding would be advantageous.
- Review of Lumber Baron's building plans
Duane Hubbs, Charles Dougherty and John Berglund, owners. appeared to
review the hotel plans. Mr. Russell said the owners had been asked to
appear before the Commission as a number of changes have been made to
plans HPC previously approved. Mr. Hubbs expressed his irritation at the
suggestion that changes were made without HPC's knowledge. He said
plans were submitted to Charles Nelson of the Minnesota Historical
Society for review and whatever changes have been made were made in
response to Mr. Nelson's comments. Mr. Hubbs said Mr. Nelson insisted on
certain changes and Ann Pung-Terwedo was aware of those changes.
Mr. Johnson noted the hotel has been reduced from 48 units previously
approved to 42 rooms. Mr. Hubbs said the plan has not changed. The project
is being done in phases; six more rooms will be added in phase 2, with an
outside staircase shown in current plans becoming an inside staircase
when the additional rooms are constructed. The additional rooms will be
constructed based on a performance review once the first phase is
occupied.
Other changes include the removal of windows in the transitional building.
Mr. Hubbs said Mr. Nelson did not want the new building to attempt to
replicate the old building with its 3-over-3 windows. The transitional
building will have 2-over-2 windows identical in scale to the old building.
Air conditioning units in the new building will be wall units, mounted
flush with the brick outside wall and painted a brick color. The railings
will be used to screen the units, Mr. Hubbs said. The railings on the room
patios will be wrought iron.
A deck will run the entire length of the river side of the building. A recent
plan is construct a railway -style deck covering so it will look like the old
building.
Mr. Michels asked whether the developers would provide some kind of
commitment to enclose the open stairway if the occupancy rate doesn't
allow for the expansion. Mr. Berglund said that would be agreeable to the
developers. Later in the discussion, Mr. Johnson requested the developers
to provide a date for the closure of the stairway. Mr. Berglund said they
would like to do that as soon as possible, but said he would be hesitant to
be pinned down to a specific date. He offered to come back to the HPC next
May with the business projections.
Mr. Michels said he was troubled by the use of the wrought iron railings.
Mr. Johnson expressed
his
desire that something
-- different coursing of
brickwork, for example
-- be done to break up
the massiveness of the
exterior wall. Mr. Hubbs
said he would look
into that. It was also
suggested that transoms
be
added to the second
and third story doors, if
that is approved by Charles
Nelson. In addition to
those two conditions, Mr.
Johnson reiterated that
the
air conditioning units
must be flush with the
exterior wall and painted
to
match the brick and that a wooden canopy be
constructed over the old
dockage.
Mr. Peterson moved approval on the modifications to the approved plans,
with the above comments noted. Mr. Lieberman seconded the motion; all in
favor. Mr. Michels asked whether the developers would be open to having
Mr. Johnson or Mr. Tomten act as a liaison on the project. Mr. Johnson
volunteered to work with the developers and also meet with the
developers and Charles Nelson to go over some of the HPC's concerns. Mr.
Hubbs and Mr. Berglund said that was acceptable, but noted the project is
moving along quickly and timing is important.
Later, Mr. Kimbrel expressed his concern about the HPC's role in the
development, the fact that the revised design is drastically different that
the approved plans/designs, and that the project is proceeding regardless
of what the HPC says. It was agreed that in future, a city staff person
should be appointed to act as liaison on major projects.
Mr. Johnson suggested that Mr. Hubbs had used Charles Nelson's
review/comments to scale back the project. He said he would talk with Mr.
Nelson and said he didn't think there would be any problem in getting HPC's
most recent suggestions OK'd.
Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Tomten moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:15
p.m. All in favor.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary