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SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL & PLANNING COMMISSION
June 26,2018
SPECIAL MEETING 7:00 P.M.
Mayor Kozlowski called the meeting to order at 7:03 p.m.
Present: Mayor Kozlowski, Councilmembers Menikheim, Junker, Weidner and Polehna
Planning Commissioners Hade, Hansen, Kocon, Lauer, Siess, and Chair Collins
Staff present: Community Development Director Turnblad, City Clerk Ward
CITY MISSION, CORE VALUES AND STRATEGIC PLAN
Community Development Director Turnblad explained the City's mission statement, core values
and strategic plan.
Councilmember Polehna asked if the Planning Commission develops an annual work plan; and
Community Development Director Turnblad responded that the work plan is established at the
Council level and then goes through staff back to the Planning Commission. By ordinance, there
is to be a work plan established by the Planning Commission, but that is not the case currently.
Over the years, staff began setting work plans with the Council, and the Planning Commission
became more focused on comprehensive planning and review of the cases that come before it.
Councilmember Junker pointed out that some initiatives came from the Planning Commission,
for instance, short term rentals.
Commissioner Kocon added that some issues came at the behest of the Council, for instance front
yard parking.
Councilmember Polehna stated the sign ordinance needs to be updated and it would be good to
have Planning Commission input on that.
Commissioner Hansen stated that even though the Planning Commission has not been doing a
work plan as a body, it is being done by staff, and Ms. Wittman updates the Commission at every
meeting.
Commissioner Hade added that it would be hard for the Commission to project in advance what
they are going to be doing for a year.
Councilmember Weidner asked at what point does staff get the Planning Commission involved
in issues that come before the Council; and Mr. Turnblad replied that ideally it would be early,
however,the way it has happened has simply been"this is what we see coming up in the next few
months."
Commissioner Kocon commented that the Commission reacts to what comes before it,using tools
like the Comprehensive Plan and staff recommendations. Strategic planning really falls to the
Council. The only way he could see the Planning Commission being proactive is expanding
knowledge through education.
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Mr. Turnblad stated that once the Council has done its strategic planning, staff incorporates it into
a work plan. If Planning Commissioners, being out in the community, see things that should be
added,that should be done several months before beginning the budget process.
Councilmember Weidner stated the next strategic planning session will be at the beginning of
2019 when one or two new Councilmembers will be on board and before budgeting. At that time,
the Planning Commission should look and see if these are the types of things the Council should
discuss. Also, when the Strategic Plan is done, it would be helpful to have input.
Councilmember Junker stated that one upcoming issue to be considered is electronic signage on
Highway 36 and possibly elsewhere. This was suggested to the Council at an open forum. The
Planning Commission could take the initiative to look at that.
Mr.Turnblad stated the Council and Commission could meet in December to brainstorm on some
of these issues. The Planning Department already has a work list to start with. It could be brought
to the Council in January when they do a work session on strategy and then late spring during
budgeting.
Commissioner Siess asked if staff has looked to see what other cities do; and Mr. Turnblad
answered that is done constantly.
Commissioner Siess asked if at these work meetings, could the Commission take the short term
home rental and have suggestions on tweaks; and Mr. Turnblad responded that the work session
is about bigger ideas and a work program, not tweaking. Tweaking should be done routinely,
outside that kind of a session.
On a question from Mayor Kozlowski if it would be helpful to have a list of Planning Commission
priorities, concerns, issues or ideas to consider over the next six months or year; the
Councilmembers responded yes.
Councilmember Weidner inquired how ideas about general policy are handled, for instance the
discussion on Jon Whitcomb's condominium building and whether that type of building should
be built that far off Main Street, or how the City wants to develop the remaining parcels around
downtown; and Mr. Turnblad replied that the Comprehensive Plan defines the downtown
planning area. Zoning and ordinances are developed to be consistent with the Comprehensive
Plan. After the Comprehensive Plan is adopted, there is an 18-month period to look at the
ordinances to make sure they are implementing what the Comprehensive Plan says.
Councilmember Weidner suggested that the Planning Commission could help the City be more
consistent in its review of zoning elements to comply with the Comprehensive Plan. Another
example is the redevelopment of the Armory site and the Shorty's parking lot.
Mr. Turnblad indicated that the Downtown Chapter of the new Comprehensive Plan calls for one
of two sites to be developed for the next municipal parking ramp. One potential site is near Olive
and Second Streets, or Chestnut south of Shorty's. Steps are being taken by the Council to plan
for that. The current Downtown Plan calls for retail in the core, from Second to the river, and
parking along Second, further from the river, so people park and then walk toward the river.
Commissioner Hansen brought up the idea of maintaining some sort of buffer between residential
and commercial uses such as those that use outdoor music. There should be a noise buffer for the
people who live right on the bluff. If there is talk of expanding the downtown footprint, the City
must realize that is pushing it closer to the historic homes.A parking ramp could serve as a buffer.
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LAND USE REGULATIONS AND MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES
Community Development Director Turnblad reviewed how land use regulations relate to
implementation of the Comprehensive Plan.
Councilmember Junker noted the City is looking at identifying neighborhood commercial district,
for instance Nelsons and the health spa are residential on the current Comprehensive Plan.
Mayor Kozlowski brought up redevelopment of the Lakeview Hospital site on Greeley. Mr.
Turnblad answered that the hospital will be leaving that site to build a new campus at Highway
36 and Manning. The present site is broadly categorized as a redevelopment site for now.
Commissioner Siess stated she is receiving a lot of questions about the cul-de-sac on Hazel Court,
even though the Commission voted one way, it will go to the Council. The question was, where
do I find out about this? She asked if there is a reason why the City would not put information on
the web site about how much an appeal costs, the days, and so on. In many cities, Planning
Commissions only provide recommendations. In Stillwater, the Planning Commission is the
decision-maker for variances and Special Use Permits unless an applicant appeals a decision to
the Council. Citizens do not understand that the Planning Commission here has authority over
variances unless appealed. She would like to see more information on the web site, as this is not
clear.
Mr. Turnblad replied link could be placed on the main page that goes to appeal information of
the City Code.
Councilmember Weidner suggested including a notice on the bottom of the agenda that indicates
where to locate information on appeal procedures. The Chair could read the notice, stating the
actions taken at the meeting will take effect unless appealed to the Council in a specified number
of days.
Commissioner Siess stated sometimes she gets a message saying that too many people are on that
web page.
City Clerk Ward explained that there are a limited number of licenses for the Weblink. If there
are too many users at one time, someone logging on would get that message.
It was the consensus that the Chair of the planning commission would read information on the
appeal process after the decision on a item before the commission.
Commissioner Hansen asked if there is a plan for all the fingerling areas surrounding the property
annexed from Stillwater Township. He would like to see more continuity of design; and Mr.
Turnblad replied that the Comprehensive Plan states these properties will be developed at single
family densities when sewer is available. In the neighborhoods where there are 5 acre lots, for
instance near the fire station, they have enough property to do a temporary dead end. Eventually
it would have to all be linked together.
VARIANCE AND SUP REVIEW TIMELINE
Mr. Turnblad noted that the Planning Commission here has authorities that most Planning
Commissions do not. They are allowed to approve variances and most Special Use Permits.
Currently, each commission looks at an application and makes a recommendation and it goes to
the Council, but for variances and use permits, the Planning Commission makes the decision.
Because of the commission meeting schedule, the Planning Commission currently does not get
the benefit of some of the other commissions' input. He has been asked about changing the review
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process so all the commissions review the application before it goes to Planning Commission.
This would take longer for applications to get through the process and could draw complaints
from constituents,but it would not exceed the two months allowed by state law to issue a decision.
On a question by Commissioner Siess about the implications of tabling a case, Mr. Turnblad
replied that an applicant may end up asking the Commission to table it rather than denying it.
Another option is that the City may extend it 60 days for any reason;however,the 120 day period
is the maximum.
Commissioner Hansen suggested there may continue to be cases where an applicant goes before
the Planning Commission to figure out if there will be support for a request before they invest
money into an architectural plan to be reviewed by the Heritage Preservation Commission(HPC).
Mr. Turnblad replied with the new option, the applicant would have to present plans before the
HPC before knowing if they will get their variance from the Planning Commission.
Commissioner Hansen replied that makes sense from the Commission's standpoint, but it is
incredibly unfriendly to applicants. For instance, a variance to a sideyard setback taking 60 days
is unfriendly. In the case of a big development requiring a variance from the Planning
Commission, the developer could invest a lot of money in getting the plan and taking it through
all the other commissions before coming to the Planning Commission, which could deny it. He is
not saying it should be one way or the other,just that it has to be either a commission-friendly
approach or an applicant-friendly approach.
Mr. Turnblad stated perhaps there could be two different timelines, one for variances only, and a
different timeline for applications requiring review by the another commission(s).
Mayor Kozlowski noted it is more difficult for him to vote on an application if the HPC has not
looked at it.
Mr. Turnblad added that some cases require a Special Use Permit to be approved by the Council.
In those cases the Planning Commission has recommendation-only authority. If the Planning
Commission takes 60 days then it would take 85 days to get to the Council, which would be too
long.
Commissioner Siess suggested switching the Planning Commission and Parks Commission
meeting dates; and Mr. Turnblad responded that would be very hard to do because many people's
schedules involved.
Commissioner Kocon remarked if those two commission meetings could be swapped, it would
make it a more linear process.
Mr. Turnblad stated that might work with simple applications, but if it is a subdivision, for
instance, staff has to create reports for all the commissions. Maybe multiple scheduling options
need to be considered. Staff will need to take time to consider this,to ensure they will be meeting
state law obligations, allowing the proper appeal periods, leaving enough time to develop
materials, and so on. It is standard practice to take 60 days to review an application.
2017 ANNUAL REPORT AND 2018-2019 PROGRAMMING
Mr. Turnblad reviewed the major projects for 2018. He summarized future challenges and
opportunities.
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Commissioner Siess inquired if the planning caseload is normal;and Mr. Turnblad responded that
most cities do not have a Heritage Preservation Commission. Anecdotally,the case load is higher
here than anywhere he has worked in his career. Stillwater is detail hungry and very regulation
content. In the first quarter the City has already surpassed the number of building permits issued
during the first half of 2017. The meeting agendas seem to keep growing.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Councilmember Junker, seconded by Councilmember Polehna, to adjourn. All in favor.
Mayor Kozlowski adjourned the meeting at 8:45 p.m.
Ted Kozlowski, Mayor
ATTEST:
Diane F. Ward, City Clerk
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