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PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION MEETING
December 18, 2017
Present: Chairwoman Linda Amrein, Commissioners Scott Christensen, David
Brandt, Bill McGlynn, Sam Nelson and Sandy Snellman
Absent: Commissioner Rob McGarry and Council Representative Mike Polehna
Staff present: Public Works Superintendent Tim Moore, City Planner Abbi Wittman,
Public Works Director Shawn Sanders
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Possible approval of October 23, 2017 meeting minutes
Motion by Commissioner Snellman, seconded by Commissioner Christensen, to
approve the October 23, 2017 meeting minutes. All in favor, 6-0.
OPEN FORUM
Ryan Chamberlain, 3344 Barons Way, and Matt Doman, 1017 Delano Way, brought
up concerns about condition of the City -maintained ice rink at Legends Park. They
would like permission for the neighbors to maintain the rink after the City does the
initial flooding.
Public Works Superintendent Moore said the City would love to have volunteer help.
He is waiting to hear back from the Water Board about being able to use the
hydrant.
Chip Myers, 145 Liberty Parkway, stated he has a similar request. He asked that the
City create a new rink in his neighborhood. He has endorsement from the president
of the Homeowners' Association and feels it would be well used. He would be willing
to hire a contractor to create the rink if that is the only and best option.
Public Works Director Sanders expressed concern that if the grass or sod needs to
be replaced, it would be an additional cost to the City.
Mr. Moore provided a map of ice rinks and stated that the smaller rinks don't get a
lot of use. If the City developed a couple of larger rinks they may get more use. He
will discuss the issue further with the neighbors in both locations.
ACTION ITEMS
Lappi Park and Trail Dedication
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City Planner Wittman explained that the Lappis purchased a 50 x 125 foot parcel
from MnDOT which they combined with their own parcel for the purpose of creating
an additional lot. The City Council approved the resubdivision and consolidation
request. The Comprehensive Plan shows no planned parks or trails on or through
the property. Therefore staff recommends a park and trail dedication fee in lieu of
land, which would be $2,500 per new lot created.
Larry Lappi offered to answer any questions.
Motion by Commissioner Snellman, seconded by Commissioner Brandt, to accept a
cash dedication of $2,500 for the park and trail obligations for the creation of the new lot
at 900 Broadway Street North. All in favor, 6-0.
Nottingham Village Park and Trail Dedication
City Planner Wittman reviewed the request. Greg Johnson, Hearth Development,
LLC, plans to develop 5.30 acres of property located at 12220 McKusick Road.
Fifteen single family lots are planned. The site is located among large unsewered
lots that were developed while the neighborhood was located in Stillwater Township.
The neighborhood lies just east of Manning Avenue (County Road 15) between
McKusick Road (County Road 64) and Brown's Creek. Staff recommends a $35,000
fee in lieu of park land or trail development, to be submitted to the City prior to
release of the final plat for filing with the County.
Commissioner Christensen expressed concern about how to get pedestrians safely
across McKusick Road to Brown's Creek Park.
Ms. Wittman responded that Brown's Creek Trail intersects the corner of Neal
Avenue and McKusick Road, so that would likely be the designated crossing.
Public Works Director Sanders added that McKusick Road and Manning Avenue are
County roads. The County will likely not want a crosswalk at that location. State law
says that every intersection is a crosswalk whether it's marked or unmarked. People
view crosswalks as being safer - that is just a perception. The other challenge is that
this location has a 50 mph speed limit which lessens the chance of getting a
crosswalk.
Motion by Commissioner McGlynn, seconded by Commissioner Snellman, to
recommend that the City accept a $35,000 fee in lieu of park land or trail development
for Nottingham Village, 12220 McKusick Road. All in favor, 6-0.
West Ridoe Park and Trail Dedication
City Planner Wittman explained the request. Kevin von Riedel, Westridge
Development, LLC has submitted an application for preliminary plat approval of a
14 -lot single family development to be known as West Ridge, and a rezoning of the
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4.97 acre property. The site is located at 12991 Boutwell Road. The Trail and Park
Plan envisions three trails/sidewalks through the neighborhood: Maryknoll Drive,
Northland Avenue, and Creekside Trail. Creekside Trail is no longer possible to
construct, since Brown's Creek Watershed District will not allow a trail along Sinnit's
Pond. Therefore, it would make sense to develop only one additional trail (or
sidewalk) through the neighborhood. Staff finds that the proposed sidewalk is as
consistent as possible with the Trail and Park Plan, given that the Brown's Creek
Watershed District will not allow the development of a creekside trail. Since sidewalk
construction is a requirement of the Subdivision Ordinance, credit would not be
given toward the trail dedication fee. Therefore, a $500 trail fee should be required
for each lot. The Parks and Trails Chapter of the Comprehensive Plan does not
envision any public parks on or near the proposed subdivision. Therefore, the
$2,000 park fee per lot would be appropriate in lieu of setting aside public park land.
Staff recommends requiring $32,500 in park and trail dedication fees, to be due prior
to release of the plat for filing with Washington County.
Commissioner Christensen asked why the plan doesn't show a trail connecting Neal
Avenue all the way to Northland.
City Planner Wittman replied that planning and engineering staff have discussed
that, but the City has not master -planned the whole neighborhood, so there are no
guiding documents for such a trail.
Motion by Commissioner Brandt, seconded by Commissioner Christensen, to
recommend that the City accept a $32,500 fee in lieu of park land or trail development
for West Ridge, 12991 Boutwell Road. All in favor, 6-0.
Music in the Park
Woody McBride, Genius of Fun Event Production, informed the Commission that the
City Council supported his concept for Music on the River, but the contract has not
yet been signed. The Main Street Stillwater Independent Business Alliance (IBA)
sent a letter of protest to the City stating they don't want the concerts to happen at
all, which started a shockwave of resistance. The main objections are: parking and
not wanting any food, beverage or other vendors to compete with local merchants.
Mr. McBride said he intended to have some tents there for sponsors and civic
groups such as Girl Scouts, but he was not going to have any vendors to compete
with the shops. He reached out to the IBA asking for a compromise. The IBA alluded
to possibly reducing the number of events the first year. He asked the Commission's
thoughts on using Pioneer Park to do a smaller number of events, or a combination
of both venues. He hopes that retooling the concept and downsizing it might allow
him to introduce the concerts for 2018 and grow the event through 2019 and 2020.
Commissioner Brandt asked if Mr. McBride has considered shuttling. Mr. McBride
replied that shuttling is a good idea, but when a series like this is in its infancy, it's
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tough to promote and coordinate shuttling especially with a limited budget the first
year. However he could consider it.
Commissioner Christensen questioned whether parking in downtown is really in
shortage.
Mr. McBride stated that the Downtown Parking Commission denied his requested
parking spots. He missed a big grant deadline because he doesn't yet have a
contract with the City. Rolling the series out more modestly is the only realistic option
at this point. He asked about the process to proceed with a smaller series.
Chairwoman Amrein commented that if the series were cut down to 3-4 times, it
might not be an issue for the homeowners near Pioneer Park.
Commissioner Christensen pointed out there are a lot of wedding reservations for
Pioneer Park.
Motion by Commissioner Christensen, seconded by Commissioner Brandt, to adopt a
resolution to continue the support of Music on the River. No vote was taken but there
was consensus.
Mr. McBride clarified that the Commission appears not to be interested in him using
Pioneer Park but continues to support the concept of all 12 weeks or a reduced
number. He said he will go back to the IBA and then report back to the Commission.
2040 Comprehensive Plan: Existing Goal and Objective Review
City Planner Wittman stated that as part of the Comprehensive Plan Update, staff is
requesting the Parks and Recreation Commission review the Goals, Objectives,
Policies and Programs section for relevancy. The 2015 Master Trail Plan will be
integrated into the 2040 Plan, therefore, the Commission does not need to review
sections relating to the community pathway and trail system. Ms. Wittman led
discussion of the overarching goals for the Parks and Trails chapter of the Plan, and
invited Commissioners to provide her with any further thoughts.
Downtown Bike Share Proposal
City Planner Wittman stated that staff thought a representative of KoloniShare would
be attending to make a presentation. Staff will contact the company to arrange for a
representative to attend a future meeting. Commissioner Brandt pointed out that
Hastings has a bike share program. He suggested staff check to see how their
program is going.
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INFORMATION ITEMS
Park and Trail Dedication
Public Works Superintendent Moore provided information on Park and Trail
Dedication Funds and balances over the last ten years.
City Planner Wittman added that her understanding is that the Park and Trail
Dedication Funds may be used to purchase land or replace equipment but not for
maintenance. However, staff will clarify with the City Attorney.
Public Works Superintendent Moore stated that at one time the Commission had a
list of about 50 improvement projects in priority order; he will bring it back to the
Commission for review. Ms. Wittman added that between now and mid -2018 is the
best time to review that list, with the Comprehensive Plan update going on.
Commissioner Christensen asked about the role of the Comprehensive Plan in use
of the Park and Trail Dedication Funds. For example, in 2012, he advocated for the
City to purchase the Jackson Wildlife Management area, but supposedly there was
not enough money in the Fund. He sees now that the City did have the money. He
asked if the City could have bought the property if it was part of the Comprehensive
Plan.
Ms. Wittman replied that the Comprehensive Plan is the guiding document for the
City, against which land use decisions must be weighed. For instance, the Plan
should define general areas where the Commission may be looking to purchase
land, such as for trail connections. The Plan would not identify specific parcels, but
property considered for purchase should be in the target area. When the County and
the State do road improvements, they consult the City's Comprehensive Plan. If a
sidewalk or trail is not in the Plan, they won't include it as part of their project.
Commissioner Christensen cited another example, the senior living development on
Brick Street. He suggested using Park and Trail Funds to build a bike trail along
Brick Street, but a trail in that location wasn't in the Comprehensive Plan. He added
that Councilmember Polehna did a fantastic job presenting the Commission's
position to the City Council, which ended up with an easement along Brick in case a
trail is planned in the future. But Commissioner Christensen had wanted the trail to
be formalized in the development agreement.
Ms. Wittman commented it's a lot harder to require a developer to construct an
improvement when it's not in the Comprehensive Plan. Even though it makes the
most sense to do it at the time of development, the City didn't have legal grounds to
require a trail.
Mr. Moore agreed to bring back more information on annual budgets and the
previously developed list of improvement priorities for discussion at a future meeting.
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COMMISSION ITEMSITOPICS
Highway 95 Trail
Commissioner Christensen asked about the status of the trail along Highway 95.
Public Works Director Sanders replied bids will be opened next month and the
Minnesota Department of Transportation should finish trail work by the end of
August. The trail by the Freight House is expected to be done by the end of May.
Rec Center Outdoor Rink
Public Works Superintendent Moore informed the Commission that the Stillwater
Area Hockey Association (SAHA) has had a contract with the City since 2010 to
maintain the outdoor ice rink, but they have been having trouble getting volunteers.
Commissioner McGlynn, who said he is very involved in SAHA, confirmed it has
been very difficult to get more Mite parents to help flood the rink. He was asked to
check with the City to see what could be done. The Mite coordinator suggested
closing that rink if more help is not forthcoming.
Mr. Moore suggested that later in the winter, the Commission should discuss
whether the City wants to retain several smaller rinks or try to develop rinks large
enough that they will get more use. He thinks that SAHA will be able to get enough
volunteers together to finish this season at the Rec Center Outdoor Rink, but the
Commission should address the issue going forward into the future.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Snellman, seconded by Chairwoman Amrein, to adjourn. All in
favor, 6-0. The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Julie Kink
Recording Secretary
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