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DOWNTOWN PARKING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
February 19, 2015
REGULAR MEETING
Chairwoman Pelletier called the meeting to order at 8:34 a.m.
Present: Chair Pelletier, Commissioners Helmberger, Hopfe, Johnson, Junker, Lettner
Absent: Commissioner Anderson, Council Representative Kozlowski
Staff: Community Development Director Turnblad, Police Chief Gannaway, Parking
Enforcement Officer Pasket
Consultant: Damon Noga, Denison Parking
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion by Commissioner Helmberger, seconded by Commissioner Junker, to approve the
agenda. All in favor, 6-0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Commissioner Helmberger, seconded by Commissioner Junker, to approve the
January 15, 2015 meeting minutes. All in favor, 6-0.
OLD BUSINESS
Parking Lot Revenue Discussion
Community Development Director Turnblad provided a brief summary of the proposal to
convert Lots 3-11 east of Main Street to pay lots. On average over the past five years, the
shortage has been about $25,000 per year. In order to make the budget balance for the surface
lots, the Commission has been looking at revenue streams including monthly parking passes,
permits, and parking fines. The Council supports converting more lots to pay lots if needed,
but suggested an hourly rate instead of the proposed $5 flat rate. The Parking Commission is
gathering comments as part of the process of determining an appropriate rate structure.
Lollie ______ urged the Commission to postpone converting to pay lots until after the new
bridge opens. Whatever the solution, it must work for all businesses downtown. She has
talked to other business and property owners downtown. No one is happy about the proposal.
All of the people working so hard to make downtown a positive place hear so much negative
from residents who go downtown once or twice a year. A more positive attitude toward
downtown is needed. She questioned why the proposal was not brought to the DRC or the
IBA.
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Randy Gutzmann, Northern Vineyards, noted that the bridge and bike trail are positive
changes. He would like to postpone the proposal, to have a couple of years to grow into these
changes without immediately capitalizing on revenue from parking.
Corey Buettner, Leo’s Grill & Malt Shop, agreed with the above comments. He urged the
Commission to let the summer play out before deciding whether to convert the lots. The
downtown doesn’t need any unwelcome signs out for customers. He thanked the members
for their work on the Commission.
Andy Malone, Stillwater Marina, expressed concern about the impacts of pay parking on
customers. He agreed that the Commission should wait to convert to pay lots.
Todd Streeter, Greater Stillwater Chamber of Commerce, expressed appreciation for
everything the Commission is doing on behalf of downtown. He acknowledged that the
parking issue won’t go away, but requires a constructive solution as a collective group. There
may be different ways of looking at the issue to reach an outcome that is beneficial in the
long run. He urged the Commission to take more time to reach a decision with the
businesses’ input.
Kurt Kohl, resident, asked about the $100,000 surplus in the past year.
Community Development Director Turnblad responded that the City also invested $800,000
in its parking lots. A good year doesn’t eliminate the bad years.
Lollie ______ asked about enforcement of the business parking permits. She suggested all
businesses be required to purchase parking permits for their employees.
Community Development Director Turnblad replied that the request for a parking mitigation
plan usually comes in with a special use permit application. It is being enforced.
Chair Pelletier assured Ms. ______ (Lollie) that the Commission understands that the
businesses need their customers.
Ms. ____(Lollie) asked about downtown property taxes as she has understood that it partially
pays for parking lots.
Commissioner Junker pointed out that downtown Stillwater has never looked better. The
amount of parking has never been greater and has never looked better. There is a fair amount
of parking downtown, though more is still needed. If business owners complain to their
customers about parking, it will have negative impacts. It’s important to maintain the attitude
that Stillwater is a great place to visit. The City and business and building owners all have to
work together. If some lots are pay lots, it will still be important to maintain a positive
attitude. The recommendation is that 269 out of 1,842 become pay spaces.
Chair Pelletier thanked everyone for their input.
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NEW BUSINESS
Valley Outreach
Tracy Maki of Valley Outreach requested that the Parking Commission partner with them
during the month of March on their “Fill This Plate” campaign. The specific request is to
allow individuals who receive parking violation citations during the month of March to pay
for them with the donation of ten non-perishable food items. A slip of paper could go with
the ticket explaining the program. When people come in to pay their ticket, they could bring
in their donation to the City and the ticket would be forgiven.
Parking Enforcement Officer Pasket said it isn’t practical because Washington County is also
involved and there is a lot of paperwork. He would rather see a donation out of the enterprise
fund made directly to the Food Shelf instead.
Police Chief Gannaway said it’s a great idea but he isn’t sure logistically how it could be
done, and he is unsure if March is a good month because of the snowfall which could be a
big issue. Also, more lead time would be helpful.
Commissioner Junker remarked that the program would be publicized and many other
community organizations could request the same thing.
Community Development Director Turnblad cautioned the Commission that any donation to
the Food Shelf would have to come out of the general fund, and cannot come out of the
enterprise fund. A typical March revenue from parking violations is about $3,000.
Police Chief Gannaway said if the ticket is paid in the required timeframe, the canned goods
could suffice but if the ticket goes unpaid, they should still be required to pay the fine in
dollars.
Motion by Commissioner Helmberger, seconded by Commissioner Hopfe, to approve the request
to allow individuals who receive parking violation citations during the month of March to pay
with ten non-perishable food items, provided that it is paid within 15 days. The ticket would then
be voided. All in favor, 6-0.
OTHER BUSINESS
Permit Parking and Rates (2015) and Parking Equipment RFP
Community Development Director Turnblad stated the number of units needed is unknown.
He is concerned about proceeding with the RFP until the Commission knows how many
machines are needed.
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Damon Noga, Denison Parking, stated that there would be a fluctuation in cost based on
number needed. He asked if the City has ever looked at a business improvement district for
the downtown in order to decrease costs to visitors?
Commissioner Junker acknowledged that 2014 was a very good year for parking revenues,
but he is really tired of hearing about waiting because 2009, 2010 and 2011 were brutal
financially. There is something that comes up every year whether it’s flooding or some other
issue.
Chair Pelletier noted that business owners have asked, why aren’t you writing more tickets?
Police Chief Gannaway replied the reason for tickets is to correct behavior, not to boost
revenues. He cannot tell the staff to write x number of tickets. The businesses should
appreciate tickets because it turns over the parking spaces.
Commissioner Junker said he would like to look at converting Lot 3 or 4 to pay parking -
which would generate more money than a flat rate for 11 lots.
Chair Pelletier replied that may put an undue burden on the south end of the City. With all
the changes coming, it may not be a bad thing to wait until the bridge is constructed and the
bicyclists start coming and see the impacts to downtown.
Commissioner Junker said he is not sure the present Council would approve fixed rate
parking at other lots. He thinks it would have to be hourly. One potential solution is to
convert Lot 9 to a $3 lot just like Lot 2.
Commissioner Helmberger stated he doesn’t disagree, but he thinks a lot of the reason the
south lots fill up is that they are the first lots people see. 80% of the traffic comes in from the
south end.
Chair Pelletier commented that the impact of the bridge is still unknown. We don’t know if
visitors will come back.
Community Development Director Turnblad stated perhaps the solution is to raise monthly
permit rates to help the shortfall. Based on the input gathered over the past week, there is
some willingness to pay a higher permit fee. He will look at what monthly permit increases
could generate and bring back this information for the next meeting.
Motion by Chair Pelletier, seconded by Commissioner Helmberger, to 1) table the purchase of
parking lot equipment for pay lot conversions to some future year; and 2) recommend increasing
the cost of monthly business parking permits from $10 to $15; and 3) recommend increasing the
cost of downtown resident parking permits from $10 to $20 per month; and 4) recommend
increasing the fine for parking violation citations from $15 to $20. All in favor, 6-0.
Acquisition of new vehicle for Parking Enforcement Officer
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Chief Gannaway requested approval of a five-year lease for a small pick-up to replace the
current eight-year-old vehicle. The estimated total lease cost is $16,643.40.
Motion by Commissioner Helmberger, seconded by Commissioner Lettner, to approve the
purchase of a small pick-up for the Parking Enforcement Officer at a lease cost of $16,643.40.
All in favor, 6-0.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Helmberger, seconded by Commissioner Hopfe, to adjourn at 10:42
a.m. All in favor, 6-0.
Respectfully Submitted,
Julie Kink, Recording Secretary