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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976-10-05 CPC MIN STILLWATER PLANNING COMMISSION PLACE: Council Chambers TIME: 7:30 P.M. DATE: October 5, 1976 MEMBERS PRESENT: Martin Hansen Charles Swanson Ann Bodlovick Mary Lou True Chris Madsen Jeffrey Zoller Jack Shelton APPROVAL OF MINUTES Chairman Martin Hansen called the meeting to order. Jeffrey Zoller moved that the minutes of the September 13, 1976 meeting be approved as submitted. The motion was seconded and passed unanimously. PIONEER PARK PROBLEMS Chairman Hansen distributed copies of a letter to be sent to the Mayor and Council regarding problems at Pioneer Park caused mainly by young people. He asked for the Commission's approval to send the letter to the Council and the Stillwater Gazette. A general discussion followed as to the problems at the Park. Martin Hansen stated that about one-third of the youths involved are coming from Wisconsin. It was pointed out that two weeks ago there were two arrests in the Park for possession of marijuana, and beer has been sold to minors in the Park. The recommendation of banning the possession and consumption of alcoholic beverages in the Park was discussed. It was noted that special permits could be issued to groups who want to serve alcoholic beverages at special events such as family reunions, etc. Jeffrey Zoller suggested that perhaps the Parks and Recreation Commission could recommend some solutions to the problems. Jack Shelton concurred and stated that closing the Park would not be a solution, since the youths would find a way to enter the Park anyway: He also noted that in Wisconsin no alcoholic beverages are allowed in the parks, and they have no problems= however, they strictly enforce the ban of alcohol. The possibility of hiring a full-time park patrolman was discussed. Also considered was the idea of fencing in the park, but it was noted that cars have damaged the fencing at Lily Lake after closing. Jeffrey Zoller moved that the Stillwater Planning Commission recommend to the Council that they direct the Parks and Recre&tion Commission to consider some long-range plans to resolve the problems at Pioneer Park. The motion was seconded and passed unanimously. The Commission gave its approval of the letter to be sent to the Council and Stillwater Gazette. Stillwater Planning Commission Minutes October 5, 1976 Page Two SPECIAL USE PERMITS Case No. 229. Applicant: Michael McGuire. Address of Property: Northern States Power Company building located on South Main Street. Permit to remodel NSP building. Case postponed until future date. Case No. 252. Applicants Wade Green. Address: 116 East School Street. Side yard variance for a garage. The Commissioners examined the drawing showing the placement of the proposed garage. Charles Swanson moved that the Stillwater Planning Commission recommend that a variance be granted to Mr. Made A. Green to construct a garage in his side yard at 116 E. School Street. The motion was seconded and passed uanimously. Case No. 253. Applicants Gary Easthind, Vice President, Scottland, Inc. Address of Property: Croixwood Blvd. and County Road #5. Permit to construct a convenience shopping center. Mr. Eastlrtnd introduced Mr. Lundquist, the architect who designed the proposed shopping center. Mr. Lundquist stated that the center will be 9,600 square feet and will have about four or five tenants. The major tenant will be Brooks Superette at the end of the project toward Croi.xwood Blvd. The center would face County Road #5. To the rear of the center will be the back yards of residences on Hidden Valley Lane. The PUD shows that the land use is commercial, multiple family, and single family. Mr. Lundquist stated that the center is to be one of convenience, and they foresee the majority of the patronage coming from the Orrin Thompson subdivision. Ann Bodlovick asked Mr. Lundquist if he was familiar with the proposed Croixgate development across the street from the proposed center. Mr. Lundquist replied that the convenience shopping center will serve a totally different function. He noted that the Brooks Superette will be open until 9:00 P.M. and will occupy 30% of the center. Tentatively, it is planned to have a beauty shop and a small restaurant and perhaps a number of other small shops. Mary Lou True asked if one of the potential establishments would be a fast food chain, and Mr. Lundquist replied that nothing is definite as yet, though a doughnut shop might be considered. A discussion followed on the number of parking spaces to be provided. The plan now allows 44 parking spaces, but Charles Swanson pointed out it would be difficult to determine the number of parking spaces needed before knowing what the businesses will be. Mr. Lundquist stated that they have no plans at this time for the extra land, and the main reason they are leaving it vacant ,is that they cannot conceive Stillwater Planning Commission October 5, 1976 Page Three of a larger shopping center at this time. He stated that as the density increases in that area over the years, they will determine whether or not another 3,000 or 4,000 -square feet in the center can be justified. Mr. Lundquist stated that deliveries will be made either at the front or rear, and there will be a mound of earth to the rear with some plantings on it consisting of trees and bushes to shield the center from the houses. Linda Kluy, 2855 Woodridge, asked if „,she arra other interested residents could see the plans of the proposed shopping center. While examining the plans, one of the citizens mentioned that she would rather have a redwood fence to the rear of the shopping center. She also stated that when they had purchased their home, they were told there would be nothing more than a dairy store or doctor's office behind them. Another resident was told that the land would be nothing but a park. Residents in the area are concerned that a shopping center will ruin the appearance of the Croixwood entrance. The feeling was expressed that it will downgrade the value of the homes to the rear of the proposed structure. It was pointed out that there will be more children in the area cutting through the yards to get to the center, more noise pollution, and the possibility of rats behind the structure. Some of the residents present stated that they do not want the shopping center. They stated that if something has to go there, they would rather it be just a superette. They would definitely not approve of a gas station, and felt there was no necessity for a beauty shop. Chairman Hansen noted that the Commission could ask Bill Schwab to review this and ask his opinion on the advisability of allowing this convenience shopping center to be located so close to the other facility. Mary Lou True stated that she would like to know more of the particulars of the project, such as what types of business will be going in, what types of signs are to be used, the traffic to be generated, etc. Ann Bodlovick moved that the Stillwater Planning Commission ask Bill Schwab, the County Planner, to review the three proposed projects (Hooley, Croixgate, and Scottland, Inc.) as to the advisability of allowing three shopping areas to function within such close proximity. The Commission would like to have Mr. Schwab's recommendations by the next regular Planning Commission meeting, which is November 1, 1976. This will be within the limits of the 45-day review period allowed the Commission. The motion was seconded and passed unanimously. Stillwater Planning Commission October 5, 1976 Page Four Charles Swanson moved that the Stillwater Planning Commission recommend to the City Council that they continue the Public Hearing scheduled for October 26, 1976, on Case No. 253 (Scottland, Inc.) until the Council's first meeting in November, 1976. The motion was seconded and passed unanimously. Case No. 254. Applicant: Michael Marzolf. Address of Property: 110 S. Greeley Street. Special Use Permit to lease 3,000 square feet of the building for storage. Mr. Marzolf stated that his itention was to use the part of the building not being used by Stillwater Dairy to lease out storage space for snowmobiles, boats, furniture, etc. There would be no daily pickups and no attempts to use it as a warehouse. Mr. Marzolf showed the Commissioners a drawing of his plans for the building, and all concurred that it was a definite improvement. He stated that he will be spending approximately 50% of his time on the property, maintaining it and keeping it in good repair. Ann Bodlovick pointed out to Mr. Marzolf that the property, to her knowledge, may be zoned residential, so that if the dairy business should cease, the residential status would remain on the property. Mr. Marzolf said he was unaware of this and it was suggested that he check with the City Attorney as to the zoning regulations of the property. Charles Swanson moved that the Stillwater Planning Commission recommend that a Special Use Permit be granted to Mr. Michael Marzolf to lease storage in that part of the business not used by Stillwater Dairy, 110 South Greeley Street, subject to the following restrictions: (1) Storage will be a quiet type operation that would include boats, snowmobiles off season, household goods, certain business storage and general storage. (2) The business will be operated during normal business hours, 9:00 A.M. to 5:00 P.M. (3) There will be no freestanding signage, and the sign will be attached to the building. (4) The° Permit will be reviewed in one year by the Planning Commission. (5) Improvements to the building and grounds will be made in accordance with applicant's memorandum to the City of Stillwater Planning Commission and City Council. The motion was seconded and passed un- animously. PRESENTATION BY PETER HALL Mr. Hall presented some slides showing the history of the freighthouse build- ing which he is remodeling, and also showing the progress he has made thus far in the renovation of the building. He asked for approval of his parking plans. Stillwater Planning Commission October 5, 1976 Page Five Mr. Hall showed the Commissioners drawings of his proposed parking. He suggested that there be parking along the length of Water Street and turning Water Street into a one-way street going north toward chestnut. The problem of truck deliveries was discussed. Mr. Hall stated that he is currently negotiating with the railroad company to remove the tracks on his property. With the tracks removed and utilizing some area around the building, Mr. Hall estimates that he can put in about 50 parking spaces. He stated that his building would require 44 parking spaces. Mr. Hall noted that the floor level of the building is above the flood plain. Mr. Brine, present at the meeting, stated that there would be room for parking on Water Street only on Mr. Hall's side of the street. He stated that the timing of truck deliveries cannot be controlled and may be at any time of the day. Mr. Hall noted that the building has been designated as an historic landmark. Charles Swanson asked if anyone had taken all of the proposed plans for this downtown area, including the proposed bypass, and put them into one drawing to see how things stand. Jack Shelton replied that Mr. Harstad is in the process of doing just that, co-relating the proposed parking, the present parking, and the bypass. It was pointed out that the bypass will take out 70 parking spaces, but these spaces do not have to be replaced. Mr. Hall stated that he would like the Commission to recommend that the City work with him as to the historic qualities of the building, such as the deck to the south of heavy timber construction and keeping the trusses open, plus the energy code. Jack Shelton pointed out that the parking area could not be left in gravel, but that it would have to be surfaced within a certain length of time so that the gravel would not be tracked into the streets. Jeffrey Zoller noted that he could see no logic in waiting to approve Mr. Hall's parking until the bypass plan is decided upon, -since the bypass will not affect the property. Ann Bodlovick stated that she would not like to see the parking restricted by signs stating that the space is for the restaurant only. Jeffrey Zoller asked Mr, Hall if he could finish the parking spaces by the time the restaurant opens without using the area where the two railroad tracks are located. Mr. Hall replied that he could get the necessary 44 spaces around the building, and he suggested that the Commission grant him parking approval providing he will furnish 51 automobile spaces when the building is Stillwater Planning Commission Minutes October 5, 1976 Page Six completed. Jeffrey Zoller moved that the Stillwater Planning Commission recommend that Peter Hall be given concept approval on his parking plan for 44 automobiles on his freighthouse site, and that the City cooperate in granting Mr. Hall variances in the building code, since the building is an historic landmark. Final development of the necessary parking spaces for the building will be completed When Mr. Hall has control of the land which is now occupied by the railroad tracks. The motion was seconded and passed, with the vote as'%follows: Ayes: Martin Hansen, Jeffrey Zoller, Mary Lou True, Jack Shelton. Nays: Ann Bodlovick and Chris Madsen. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 11:05 P.M.