HomeMy WebLinkAbout1979-08-06 CPC MINr_DTILLWA TE -q
Russell Weitz
Tom Farrell
Ann Bodlovick
i7ile Kriesel
ABSENT: Russell Meister
TIES: 7:00p. .
PLACE: City x all
DATE:
=LAi';[fIUG COI,. iI SI011
I:onday August 6,1979
David hnefelkartn
Ai R anum
Charles Swanson
Al Poopke
The meeting.' was called to order at 7:10. ` hO minutes of the previ ;us
meeting were acceptd as written.
Case No. 366
Iosubdi.vision
Applicant Eleanor C. Finken for her mother
I{atharine Janda, 305 \Je._;c Abbott st. Still'kator
pesubdivlslon of Block 6, Holcomb' s ;addition
to Stillwater into 4 ' arcels,
Finken explained the elan previously submitted
and Torn stated that this was an established block and normal data ,,would
not be roqu ired. Russell Weitz asked if this was for single family
dwelling and was answered in the affirmative. David Knef.'elkamp moved
and Chuzck Swanson scconde i that the application be approved. Upon
checking that there were not objections fro m neighbors, the motion
was approved unanimously.
Case No.
Variance
367 Applicants Richardnd
` '„"oY Anderson
1120 N. 3rd. St. Stillwater
Variance of 85 sq. foot to allow construction of
single family dwelling on a lot containing 7,415
sq. ft. rather than the required 7,500 seq. foot in a
two family district.
E:arnst, father of Mrs. Anderson made the application. 11e stated
that Swa(ers' had applied to build one year ago but had been turned
down, owing to neighbor objection. Ann stated that previously neighbors
had objected as this lot vias meant to be a yard and not meant to be built
on. ;h Magnuson was asked for his opinion and he state ? that the lot
was only 85 square feet short of normal. Chuck motioned that the variance
be (ranted and the motion "r;as seconded by Al ?anum. Eefo.re it ,
approved Tom asked why the gara,:e was on its own and why it was not joined
to the house. The applicants answered that they Preferred it like that
So that they could utilize the existin1 driveway. Notion was an roved
unanimously conditional that :Lt will have a sidcyard set back of 15 feet
rather than 10.
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Case .Jo. 363
Special Use Permit
Applicant Richard A. I gill er
704 Pine Tree Trail, Stillwater
permit required in r spect of 1E132 West pine ,St.
to convert single family dwelling into a duple'
in a single family zone.
There was oomo confusion over exact location of the house as the
secretary had only put the name of the atrial:i_cantf s house on the Agenda
and not the house ho :intended to purchase on rine lit.
1_r. I:filler was asked how big the house '::as and .repli_ed. tI-tt it had
1500 square feet on each floor. Chuck ;vonson asked him why he ':Anted
to convert it to a duplex as the neighbors would ,rob bl_,, not like it.
,.filler answered t. at it ':'.ould help i11: ; make the I OX' t''"ti payments.
Jim Gardener recresent »g Anderson ? e1,l, stated taL ,11_
was ;;Ll
extra large home for the area.
Ann podl.ovick asked how lara: the lot. w _: and was told s 100 x120
_inn stated that she had had phone calls objecting t0 tl-ic application.
rir. .;il.le.r r dted. that he felt there was some confusion the
whole area would be rezoned. The present owner of the hou "c stated that
there were many homes in the area wi th rental units In them, in fact
when he had purchased the house years ago it had a :rental unit in it.
Tom statc.l that it mijit not be the best tiiie for the planning Commission
to approve this type of application. Mr. parent who lives 300 feet
away had complained stroncyto Ann about the a :pli_cat.i_on. kr. v:anson
was concerned that a single family zoned area should be changed while
clos, nieghbors were away on vacation and unable to object in -person.
There was considerable cl.isucssion about gara„ o modification, fire alarumo,
fire walls and 5/311 sheet rock necessary on any rental unit.
David p:nofclkamp motion, Lhat the application be approved and it was
seconded by Al 1;oopke. The remaining vote for the mo tion came from
Russell Weitz but those against the motion wore Swanson* r?arum and Bodlovick.
The Chairman cast the final 'no' vote. Chuck Swanson felt financial
reasons we:'e insufficient for as:i.n, for an arca to be virtually rezoned,
people had purchased homes In that area in good faith erpc:ctin,."; them to
be single family hones. i;cmbe s felt that thLs v:out(1 O`.en applications Lions to
Fai iaeadOws U'1C? Croixwood for the same thin,; in future yor r.`if this 111oti0n
was pa00ed.Ac;.i_ ,; on the above vote the 0.n lic ,."ion r refused.
Dave Johnson prooc
_rile stated ,h:'1L ')(aver Johnson •atteudln;: :.h aloetin,' t.; 11110
preliminary .lams acting on planner 0a_'�
.. 'r-,10, advice.
David ,a gnuu01 stated there 1=�limited time �v^_laule to -
t;;iy
,,;he ;Lao, and no felt it was ni,jve_1L_ ioo e f ... „,). Ott,yr L'.) :1.:U`,' _,_t,-. Lf
no action \.a0 taken it would ;e deemed toc. a .) roved. M': attorney
actin for Dave Johnson stated that nt l'ojec of t'. _ ; _,L;:L ` i _L t C some
time to oe reviewed. "_e would 1110 the 3001011. i:0 review Lite anae:'aLlO :n
to .i til
Dave JOhnson put a colored map oil display J" Oak 01011 'dewlOU:1ent.. He
explained the dovel op ;en t was bounded b y-wy. 56, Stenebridgeeal
There eo 4C0 aCr, n :';l1. WO in the township) the 11, '0a e 1_:1 the town-
is«14arca j n�� tl r:AtGf]2a?
1G:atLO1 t0 3 G1]1Vair. development
110},t;
olf cou1 s, Ln.1-udin;: an executive course. Lot design and road
denicn .:ave becn in „i anni'1J for a year. The £lve el :e lot 2iZO will be
so -de feet.. :,12 sits are ;Coed and buiic1ablc.
Planning Co1nim,-;_Lon Contd.
l;rownl Creek will be cleaned e_it and the banks will be cleaned and gener-
ally improve the area but the creek will not be changed. The D.,l.P• prefers
as little interference with this type of land an Possible. ,her:: will be
holding _ ond3 for storm water which will be attrac ..i.ve on a golf course.
There will be 3 Jordan valley wells for the golf course. Prol;rnr s Creek is
classified as a trout stream. i:r. Johnson felt that the ;rater temperature
should not be altered by his Jordan Valley water. ='e would be ?.prepared to
pump Jordan Valley water in to keep r>rov.n+ _, Creek cool. wolf courses will
be designed to use existing 'knolls and hills to be as natural as possible.
All surrounding homes have sold their property. Ann a :',:ed if he mould
rurch_ase the actual homes and he said he would not except i'or i_r -. ` w-enoen.
Parc 'ls of property will be retained no wildlife areas.
'10m asked if any oronerty vouiid oo desi' n atoll ;ark land and !:` 1': toll that
as '..t 13 private land how can it be (]C:,i ;nato d 'park _i -ani. r,vent'u.ail ui a
curling rink and a golf course may he oxen to the ;iubl_l.c. ri'on !i;'::1_ hovi
the run -oft ',':111 O 'pct Brown's Crock and .a: told. {;ii: t 1_t; would not be
effected any more than it is now. Fertilizers aro used. now just they
will be on the golf course.
!nn stated the coent:'ere that there Lo) .iany cul— !:
S'C, i -i n the
project plan. On the O3:1., Bial_ _i' n Ulero 1:,('r(.: 1-F j 11ow( L..'_ecc are jd were
i=r• John4:0__e n comments and the nati"C o f t. forced tthat
_ _. the orade O:'C, him ra ,O �,) to
type of ._ trcet design. r;usccl _ ._tn 311:ed how people will ho lo00.1'0 and
wao told that: roads 1'xitor, sewer, golf cour '.L rill all. o � Fax
r r r c> � (_ X11 first.
this quality home people should be able to ,,ick freely on the Lo
which they would like to live. probably 110 1 -oto por year would be sold.
Dave Johnson already 7 people v,ho want lots.
r.:rhod ;:here the sewer will come from :?:id v:I.', told that the existing
capacity Of sewer would be able to handl() the development but the chain
could be extended. Tom then asked about Dave Johnson's name in co nection
with the lift station in ;:yrtle St.and was told that peliance Develop-
ment would pay ,part and Johnson would guarantee the remainder to save
the City beim; financially responsible for his development. Total price
for the lift station would be eighty thousand dollar;:.
Al Panum asked what Johnson's time table for the development would be and
was told that the golf courses would ;o in first although work on those
can only be done for five months of the year which can delay development.
One hundred million dollars will be the total cost of the development.
Wherever possible local tradesmen vr.1_l1 be used. i'e would like to begin
in the Brown's Creek and pond areas now and would ar 'reciate a letter of
recommendation giving permission for this. re exnectrJ can-lexation to Pc
completed in ,fie lteber 1979. Roads and ,_le',:ero will be c0e_.nce . i<Cr '
hi.s
winter. Golf COUrOCO should Pe ready in late `iept; o ber 1930. : e is at
present conditioni_ng the soil t0 save time next year.
Tom askcH if the Cit,-;' could have an casement to large Gond to control
water levels acting oIn the advice 3f the planner. :ollnson sated he would
be takin . care of that. Toni also asked about "Teal Avenue being collect --
ion street and did Johnson realize that his streets v.c li e')tng onto
O
a collection street hi_Cih Carl Dale considered bad nlanaing.
4, planning Commission contd.
r:?l.io r:rioeel a;kcd about a moratorium on property tones. Johnson
answered that these are set by the State. As an incentive to developers
the State has said they will only tax the lots when sold and not 'before
as 30% will be devoted to open space. IIe does not want to pay taxes on
lots he has not sold as normally hap:enss to a developer, fourteen hundred
dollars per lot an an undeveloped lot is prohibitive figure for any
developer.
Chuck Swanson stated that he will recommend to the County that Johnson
is bending over backwards to meet the council requirements.
A motion was made by David Knefelkanp and seconded by Russell Weitz that
the City write a letter to the D.H.R. requesting that; permission be given
to Dave Johnson to commence the cleaning of the Brown' s Creek area.
Ann Bodiovick brought up the question of the Anderson shelter for
delinquent children. She had been approached by neighbors compla_Lnin;:
that originally there had only been 3 children in the home but that now
Dick had pans for 2J0 children and only having counsellors 7 ..v:i_.ng ;n
the house as he will be moving out. It will now be termed a 'Iholu.inr;
hoioe=l. Ann felt t.ha;. this would be a;:ainst the loenl zoning ordinance.
There was some discussion on the matter, but no conclusions were reb.chod
it being the feeling that Dick Anderson was doing very uoeful work, and
members wondered hon,: navy people lived in the still a ser home across the
street from the Anderson hone.
The sleeting terminated at 9:00 p.m.
htespectfully
submitted
Patricia 11. Gill
Secretary Stillwater
Commission
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planning