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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2016-11-09 CPC Packet1\i'ater 1NE IIIRTNPLA CE OF MIMNESOTA AGENDA PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Council Chambers, 216 Fourth Street North November 9th, 2016 REGULAR MEETING 7:00 P.M. I. CALL TO ORDER II. ROLL CALL III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES 1. Possible approval of minutes of October 12th, 2016 regular meeting minutes IV. OPEN FORUM - The Open Forum is a portion of the Commission meeting to address subjects which are not a part of the meeting agenda. The Chairperson may reply at the time of the statement of may give direction to staff regarding investigation of the concerns expressed. Out of respect for others in attendance, please limit your comments to 5 minutes or less. V. PUBLIC HEARINGS - The Chairperson opens the hearing and will ask city staff to provide background on the proposed item. The Chairperson will ask for comments from the applicant, after which the Chairperson will then ask if there is anyone else who wishes to comment. Members of the public who wish to speak will be given 5 minutes and will be requested to step forward to the podium and must state their name and address. At the conclusion of all public testimony the Commission will close the public hearing and will deliberate and take action on the proposed item. 2. Case No. 2016-39: Consideration of a Special Use Permit for light manufacturing of distilled products, the operating of a testing room similar to a restaurant, and an outdoor seating area for the property located at 124 2nd Street S. D-SAL LLC, property owner and Andrew Mosiman and Christie Wanderer, applicants. 3. Case No. 2016-40: Consideration of a Special Use Permit and Variances thereof to develop a hotel with a restaurant and outside eating area, parking ramp and 3 story office building on the property located at 232 Main Street North. Midnight Real Estate, LLC, property owner and Anne Loff, applicant - Tabled until the December 14th meeting 4. Case No. 2016-41: Consideration of a Variance for a front yard setback and a setback from a steep slope greater than 24% for the property located at 2005 Hazel CT. Brian Larson, applicant and Theresa Milbourn, property owner. VI. NEW BUSINESS 5. Short Term Rental Update VII. STAFF UPDATES/FOR YOUR INFORMATION VIII. ADJOURNMENT ilivater THE 1I11TNYLACE OF MINNESOTA PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES October 12, 2016 REGULAR MEETING 7:00 P.M. Chairman Kocon called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Present: Chairman Kocon, Commissioners Collins, Fletcher, Hade, Hansen, Kelly, Lauer and Siess Absent: Councilmember Menikheim Staff: City Planner Wittman APPROVAL OF MINUTES Possible approval of September 14, 2016 meeting minutes Motion by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Collins, to approve the September 14, 2016 meeting minutes. Motion passed 8-0. OPEN FORUM There were no public comments. PUBLIC HEARINGS Case No. 2016-37: Special Use Permit (SUP) for a tattoo shop to be located at 124 Main Street North. Josh Strand, applicant and Joyce Melton, property owner. City Planner Wittman explained that Josh Strand is proposing to relocate his tattoo business from Oak Park Heights to 124 Main Street North. The four -chair studio is proposed to be located in the entirety of the 1,596 square foot, storefront unit. There is a four parking space deficit on the property and the proposal will go before the Downtown Parking Commission. She stated that the question was raised as to whether this type of service establishment is considered an Adult Use. It is the opinion of staff and City Attorney Magnuson that the intent of the Adult Uses ordinance was for sexually -oriented business. While minors in the State of Minnesota are not allowed to be tattooed, even with parental consent, the business also provides piercing services to 16-18 year old minors, accompanied by a parent. Therefore, the Main Street Tattoo business has been determined to not be an Adult Use. Staff recommends approval with five conditions. Josh Strand informed the Commission that he has been running the tattoo shop in Oak Park Heights for six years. Planning Commission October 12, 2016 Chairman Kocon opened the public hearing. There were no public comments. The public hearing was closed. Commissioner Hade stated he doesn't feel the shop fits in with the rest of downtown. He respects the City Attorney but disagrees with his interpretation of the statute. He feels this is clearly an adult use because the main business will be tattoos and customers have to be over 18 to get a tattoo in Minnesota. Commissioner Fletcher pointed out there is another tattoo shop that has been in the downtown area for quite some time. She supports the request. Commissioner Hansen pointed out that the Special Use Permit would be subject to review on complaint which provides controls if something negative happens. Chairman Kocon said he supports the request because the zoning district allows tattoo shops under a SUP. Motion by Commissioner Hansen, seconded by Commissioner Lauer, to approve Case No. 2016-37, Special Use Permit (SUP) for a tattoo shop to be located at 124 Main Street North, with the five conditions recommended by staff. Motion passed 7-1, with Commissioner Hade voting nay. Case No. 2016-38: Zoning Text Amendment (ZAT) to the Planned Unit Development (PUD) regulations pertaining to PUDs for Senior Housing. Kendra Lindahl, Landform representing Brian Farrell, Northland Real Estate Group, applicant. City Planner Wittman explained that on April 5, Brian Farrell with Northland Real Estate gained conceptual Planned Unit Development (PUD) approval for the Croix Bay Senior Living Care Facility to be located at 12525/12721 75th Street North and 12620 72nd Street North. At that time, the request for a Zoning Text Amendment (ZAT) was denied by the City Council. A new ZAT request has been submitted which is proposing to add a new subsection to Planned Unit Development (PUD) for new Qualifications and Requirements for senior housing PUDs. The new subsection is proposed to read that PUDs for senior housing: i. May be approved if the purpose and intent of the PUD is met; ii. May be approved if the project area is at least 20 acres in size; iii. Must include permanent open space that is either deeded to the City or preserved by a conservation easement in favor of the City; iv. Shall be designed as a senior housing campus with a variety of housing options. Accessory service/retail uses may also be permitted; v. May allow density above that allowed by the underlying land use classification and zoning district; vi. May allow building heights/stories that exceed the limits imposed by the zoning district; vii. May allow other development flexibility as needed to meet the purpose and intent of this section. Ms. Wittman explained that City staff and legal counsel have determined the application is substantially different than the original proposal, proposing greater standards for qualifications and requirements. Six comments were received - five in support and one against the text amendment. Staff finds that with certain modifications including the omission of subsections i-iv, the public necessity and the general community welfare are furthered and that the proposed ZAT is in general conformance with the principles, policies and land use designations set forth in the comprehensive plan. Ms. Wittman further explained the senior housing goals that have been set for Stillwater. She stated that staff finds that with modifications, the zoning text amendment could allow for greater flexibility and help the community meet the senior housing goals. Therefore, staff recommends that the Commission recommend approval of the ZAT with certain modifications. Page 2 of 8 Planning Commission October 12, 2016 Commissioner Siess pointed out that Stillwater is unique in that one boundary is a river. The City does not have a lot of space in which to attempt to meet the established goals for senior living. Commissioner Kelly asked about the difference in the standards for PUD review versus variance review. City Planner Wittman explained that while both PUDs and variances require public hearings. PUDs require two sets of public hearings at the Commission and Council level: concept PUD and final PUD heard by both. Variances usually get one public hearing at the Planning Commission. The standards for each are different - PUDs were designed for flexibility to allow for site -specific development where official controls may have been constraining, as long as something has a mixture of uses, housing types and meets comprehensive plan goals. Variances are based on practical difficulty and a three-part test: is it reasonable, is there some uniqueness to the land not created by the applicant, and will it alter the essential character of the neighborhood. Commissioner Siess asked for clarification whether the proposed ZAT would really only impact the one parcel of land under consideration. Ms. Wittman replied that at this time, the parcel of land being discussed is the only one that would not need other zoning changes. Commissioner Kelly questioned why the developer would not ask for a variance instead of the ZAT. Ms. Wittman reminded the Commissioners they were asking site -specific questions whereas she had advised them to focus on the ZAT which is related to the City rather than this specific site. Commissioner Kelly stated that if the proposed ZAT is not site specific, then the next question would be what sites does it specifically impact? If it is just this one site, an alternative to amending the text to accommodate one parcel might be to come with a variance request. If the City has routinely been approving PUDs with densities greater than what is in the PUD regulations, then the Commission should look at redoing the entire PUD language. Commissioner Hade asked what notice was given for the hearing. City Planner Wittman replied that all properties within 350 feet of the site, as well as notices in the Gazette, City web site and on Facebook. Kendra Lindahl, Landform Professional Services, representing the applicant, stated the ZAT is a policy issue for the Commission and not specifically about Croix Bay. The concept plan for Croix Bay was approved by the Council March 22 but the text amendment was denied at that meeting. The Council voiced concern that the proposed language was not specific enough, it was too broad and could affect too many properties. So developers looked at how to help the City fix some of the challenges presented by the existing PUD ordinance. She pointed out the 2030 comprehensive plan identifies the need to provide senior housing. In 2013 Washington County did market studies and determined there is not enough existing or planned senior housing to meet the demand, that by 2020, 670 senior units in the Stillwater area would be needed. Developers are asking to formalize the flexibility that has historically been granted. She said that three story buildings are today the marketplace standard because they reduce site impacts, make financial sense and have shorter corridors for seniors. They require a different kind of scale to integrate into the community. Any senior housing project that comes into Stillwater is not going to be a single story nursing home - people want a place where they can be active and age in place. Ms. Lindahl stated that the proposed text amendment allows the City flexibility to respond to development proposals. The amendment would apply to senior housing across the City. Developers are comfortable with staff's recommendation to omit the first four Page 3 of 8 Planning Commission October 12, 2016 items. The other items provide flexibility to work with developers, to find a project that fits within a particular site and is market -ready. She said to be very clear, developers are not asking for project approval tonight. Since the concept plan was approved by the Council March 22, they have worked on massing and density and have reduced the number of units from 262 to roughly 220 units, reduced height for the majority of the site, and a small portion of the center remains three stories. Developers hope to come back with an actual plat and site plan. They think the policy issue should be addressed City-wide to allow the City to help meet its senior housing demand. Commissioner Siess pointed out there is a big difference between the Select Senior Living plan previously approved in 2014, at 17 units per acre on five acres, and Croix Bay's proposal on 50 acres. She also asked, if the ZAT were approved, how would it benefit the Croix Bay proposal? Ms. Lindahl replied if the text amendment is not approved, Croix Bay developers would look at a smaller number of units but the footprint would get bigger, resulting in less open space, and they would have to reconsider the site. Commissioner Kelly stated Ms. Lindahl had referred to the ZAT being beneficial across the City, but it is pretty specific to senior living facilities on parcels over 20 acres. Ms. Lindahl replied that the City Council said they felt there was not enough discretion and wanted more specifics in the text amendment. She feels it's good for the City to allow PUD flexibility. That was just her starting point to have the conversation and frame the discussion. She is not saying that's the only answer. Chairman Kocon opened the public hearing. Dionne Meisterling, 12550 72nd Street, stated she has attended all the prior meetings and has significant concern that misinformation is not being corrected. Her property is on the west side of the site. It takes up the entire 350 feet notification limit, so she informs other neighbors of the hearings. She is concerned that the planning department may be willing to change anything to get the proposal to go through. Previous proposals were denied. She feels a bias may be being given to this project. She is not against the development but wants City planners to look toward the best interest of the citizens. She was surprised at the last vote because there was no conversation about impacts on her property, despite the fact that the developer wanted to construct buildings that would span the entire north and east side of her property line, towering over her backyard. She feels the 2014 project would not need a height variance because the max was 35 feet and that proposal was at 34 feet. The clarification of three versus two and a half stories was not part of the discussion because height was not part of their project. Tonight they said they are reducing from 262 to 220 units, but Mr. Lazan was quoted in March stating it would be more than 220 and when the Council asked him specifically, he stated 230-250 units. She can't see a record of any conversation about density in 2014. She also observed the Mayor express concern about the big commercial expanse, as well as height and density, at the City Council meeting. The property was specifically guided for low density residential, yet this facility would be high density. Ms. Meisterling said that Northland Development Group wants wiggle room on the height and the density in Lakeshore Residential. They also would like to build a senior living facility on land that is completely in the shoreland overlay district. She read from the City ordinance noting that senior care facilities are permitted by SUP on lands that are partly, not wholly, in the shoreland overlay district. She asked the Commission to deny the ZAT. Page 4 of 8 Planning Commission October 12, 2016 Don McKenzie, 12620 72nd Street North, noted he provided the City with a letter outlining the background of the project. He has been getting only positive feedback on the project. He is confident he made the right decision for future use of his property which is 10.25 acres constituting about 20% of the proposed senior living campus site. He and his wife can no longer take care of the property but it was never officially for sale. The single family development proposed years ago never occurred. Developers have approached them over the years but this is the first plan that seemed right. The density on the prior approved project was 7.39 units per acre but Northland's concept density was 5.24 and now has been reduced to 4.4 units per acre by reducing the number of units. He added that the current Northland plan has a number of adjustments that should alleviate height concerns. Gary Jacobsen, 198 Northland Avenue, stated he supports the zoning text amendment. The land owner has cleaned up the property making it a fitting setting for a senior housing development. He feels precedence was set in 2008 and 2014 approving a project that had far higher density than the present project. Stillwater desperately needs senior housing. Del Miske, 14155 loth Street North, West Lakeland, a member of Grace Baptist Church next door to the site, expressed support for the zoning text amendment. He feels the project is worthy. He is not speaking officially for the church but he has not heard any members express opposition. Phillip Manger, 12525 72nd Street North, spoke in opposition to the zoning text amendment. He is not opposed to senior or life cycle housing but feels it is inappropriate to manipulate or break laws to make it happen. He recognized that Stillwater has limited land to satisfy the Met Council's desire for senior living but pointed out that the text amendment would only apply to this parcel despite it being a City- wide ordinance, which constitutes spot zoning. The project would be a hyper -dense commercial project on Long Lake and an attempt to warehouse seniors. Mr. Manger reminded the Commission that, according to City Code, senior care facilities are permitted by SUP on parcels that are partly, not wholly, in the shoreland overlay district. Mr. McKenzie's land is wholly in the shoreland district. Diedra Kramer, 7100 Mid Oaks Avenue North, agreed with those who spoke in opposition to the zoning text amendment. Eldon Lamprecht, owner of 12630 72nd Avenue North, pointed out the question was asked, is this the only property that this zoning text amendment would apply to? The answer is the very property that is being discussed was in Stillwater Township about six years ago. So if Stillwater acquires new property from Grant or Stillwater Township, the text amendment would apply, which would open new possibilities in the future. The proposal is a case in point for the need for the zoning text amendment. He has carried out a forest stewardship plan on his property so it would be suitable for development. He never envisioned that so many seniors could enjoy it. He is paying taxes on the land as if it were developed. The trees planted a year ago were seedlings and are now shoulder or hip high. In 15 years it will be a dense urban forest that would hide just about anything that the developer has proposed. He told the Commission there are trees on his and McKenzies' property that are 5-10 feet higher than any structures that are proposed. He feels the site can handle the density and the use of the property should be maximized. Stephen Huebscher, 703 Wilkins Street West, voiced support for the ZAT to meet senior housing needs. He is a neighbor to Good Samaritan Nursing Home which is an aging facility that will need to be replaced in the future. The public hearing was closed. Page 5 of 8 Planning Commission October 12, 2016 City Planner Wittman shared a City map of approved PUDs as of 2008, stating that some developments exceeded the height or density allowed in their district. She then pointed out the districts which the 2030 comprehensive plan labels low density residential of 1 to 4.4 units per acre. The current zoning districts that fall into that category are RA, one family traditional residential, lakeshore residential, and cove traditional. She added that while it is true that the northwest corner of the development site is partially located in the shoreland district, a significant portion is located on property that is not in the shoreland district. The lot lines will most likely be changed when the developer applies for subdivision. Commissioner Fletcher asked if the first four items are eliminated from the proposed new subsection, is there an easement provision elsewhere in the PUD? She likes item #iii and would like it to remain. City Planner Wittman replied that one standard for PUDs is preservation of open space. It is correct that there is no other provision that indicates the land would have to be deeded. Staff would be leery at this point to bind the hands of the City to accept and manage deeded land, as opposed to the watershed district or some other entity that would be better able to manage open spaces. Chairman Kocon pointed out that in lakeshore residential, density up to 4.4 units per acre is viewed as doable. When looking at a 50 acre site, that could result in a lot of single family homes and take a lot of the open space out of the common good. Commissioner Hansen asked why is there a requirement to have a density over 25 units per acre for a PUD? Ms. Wittman replied that staff has grappled with that issue. The ordinance states that land to be developed as a PUD 1) shall be at least three acres in size, 2) at least one complete city block in size, 3) shall have density in excess of 25 dwelling units per acre or 4) when fully developed contain at least two principal buildings. So the argument could be made that developments need to meet 1, 2, and 4, or 1, 2, or 4. The "or" definitely provides flexibility for different types of developments. Commissioner Siess asked if the 2014 development received a height variance. Ms. Wittman replied there were no height variances or density variances associated with that approval. The allowable height in this district is 35 feet or two stories. She explained how this has traditionally been applied in staff reviews of developments. Commissioner Collins commented that the real issue is whether the ZAT is appropriate for Stillwater. He likes the flexibility provided in items v, vi, and vii by the phrase "may allow", not "will allow." Chairman Kocon agreed, adding that he feels strongly about providing life cycle housing, introductory housing for kids and homes for seniors. This is a great location for senior housing. The density on the area proposed contributes to the openness and maximizes the land use. He feels a PUD allows the flexibility to make best use of the property. Commissioner Hade stated he opposes anything that changes the neighborhood where there are longstanding property owners and then someone comes in and wants to do something different. This proposal would put a significant large unit in a residential area. Chairman Kocon responded that he looks at other side of the issue - taking prime open space and cluttering it up with houses. Page 6 of 8 Planning Commission October 12, 2016 Commissioner Fletcher stated she is generally in favor of the zoning text amendment. She would like to believe the changes to the zoning text could apply elsewhere. She feels strongly about ensuring permanent open space, so she would like to retain item #iii. Commissioner Hansen said the Commission should consider that what it is doing now matters for the future so he would like to make sure the language is not too specific. Knowing that the City Council wants the Commission to be more specific is a strange position to be in. If neighbors decided to merge their land there could be more properties in Stillwater to which this zoning language would apply. He is in favor of this site having a senior living center but wants to focus on getting this zoning text amendment right for the future. Today there is no place in Stillwater that could accommodate a senior living center without some language in place for it. He doesn't want this same issue to come up every other month. He supports the ZAT. Commissioner Kelly said he feels that this represents a major change to PUD regulations and that the proposed language adds a section that conflicts directly with another section. He would like to know what other cities' zoning ordinances look like before recommending a change to the current zoning language. He does not like the idea of amending it just for senior living. Commissioner Siess agreed. She would support tabling the matter in order to look at other communities. Without doing that, she feels the Commission would be doing the community a disservice because it would feel like spot zoning. Commissioner Hansen said he agreed to an extent. He realizes that staff does not have time to completely rewrite the ordinance. Without item #vi there is no way of putting a reasonably sized senior living center anywhere in Stillwater. Commissioner Kelly asked if the developer could ask for a height variance instead of the zoning text amendment. Ms. Wittman replied the developer could ask for any variance they want with any application. She agreed to look at model ordinances and see what other cities have done. Chairman Kocon remarked this is one way of preserving open space in Stillwater, planning for the future and providing life cycle housing. Motion by Commissioner Siess, seconded by Commissioner Kelly, to table Case No. 2016-38, Zoning Text Amendment (ZAT) to the Planned Unit Development (PUD) regulations pertaining to PUDs for Senior Housing, for the purpose of researching other PUD regulations in other cities with regard to density and height. Motion failed 3 to 5 with Commissioners Collins, Hansen, Fletcher, Lauer, and Chairman Kocon voting against. Motion by Commissioner Hansen, seconded by Commissioner Collins, to forward to the Council a favorable recommendation on Case No. 2016-38, Zoning Text Amendment (ZAT) to the Planned Unit Development (PUD) regulations pertaining to PUDs for Senior Housing, striking item i, keeping item ii, changing item iii to incorporate language requiring the inclusion of open space but eliminating the deeding of the conservation easement, leaving items iv through viii with a weighted recommendation that the Commission would support eliminating them but since the City Council is requesting more specific language, leaving those items in and letting the Council make that decision. Commissioner Siess restated that she feels that this is spot zoning and that the word "may" could allow heights that exceed zoning restrictions. She would like this on record. Page 7 of 8 Planning Commission October 12, 2016 Chairman Kocon countered that he feels the word "may" is what gives the ordinance flexibility; it doesn't say "shall." Commissioner Kelly noted if eliminate ii and iv are eliminated, would that be consistent with vi? Even though the section has a heading, the exact requirements should still be explained below the heading. Commissioner Hansen remarked with the heading of qualifications for senior housing, the wording is consistent. Motion passed 5 to 3 with Commissioners Hade, Kelly and Siess voting against. NEW BUSINESS There was no new business. STAFF UPDATES VRBO Survey Commissioner Siess asked to see the results of the survey about rental housing. City Planner Wittman stated that the survey results as well as results of a meeting on the topic would be discussed at the next Planning Commission meeting. She will try to provide access to the survey results as soon as possible. Commissioner Siess pointed out that, along with the complaint of not having enough senior housing there is also the complaint there is not enough lodging in Stillwater. ADJOURNMENT Motion by Commissioner Fletcher, seconded by Commissioner Collins, to adjourn the meeting at 10:01 p.m. All in favor, 8-0. Respectfully Submitted, Julie Kink Recording Secretary Page 8 of 8 7 Ft E B. R T N P I C E 9 F MINNFSOITA PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING DATE: November 9, 2016 APPLICANT: REQUEST: CASE NO.: 2016-39 Andrew Mosiman and Christie Wanderer representing Wanderer Distilling Company Consideration of a Special Use Permit for a proposed Distillery and Tasting Room facility, with outdoor seating, to be located at 124 2nd Street South ZONING: CBD-Central Business COMP PLAN DISTRICT: DMU-Downtown Mixed Use PREPARED BY: Abbi Jo Wittman, City Planner REQUEST The applicant is requesting the following to be located at 124 2nd Street South: • A Special Use Permit for a distillery, light industrial that is clean and compatible with surrounding properties; and • A Special Use Permit for a tasting room to include outdoor seating, similar to a restaurant with outside eating facilities. BACKGROUND The applicant is seeking to locate a distillery and tasting room to be called Wanderer Distilling Company into the existing building located at 124 2nd Street South. To do this, they are requesting a Special Use Permit for a "Light Industrial use that is clean and compatible with surrounding properties". The tasting room facility, with outdoor seating, will allow patrons to purchase and sample the products produced onsite; as per state regulation, the establishment will not be able to serve alcoholic products not produced by the facility. The facility will be open to the general public, Thursdays through Saturdays, though production will occur throughout the week. Approximately 2300 square feet of the 7,500 square foot structure will be dedicated to the tasting room. Additionally, an (approximately) 8' X 60' patio will operate seasonally though it is not anticipated the patio will be constructed within the first year of operation. The remaining 5,200 square feet will be dedicated to office, storage, utility, restrooms and (approximately) 3,000 square feet of warehouse/production space. SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICABLE REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS Municipal Code Section 31-207 indicates the following must be determined by the Planning Commission prior to the issuance of a Special Use Permit: The proposed structure or use conforms to the requirements and the intent of this chapter, and of the comprehensive plan, relevant area plans and other lawful regulations. • Zoning Ordinance o Use: Both breweries and wineries have been classified as "light industrial that is clean and compatible with surrounding properties" in the Central Business District. These uses have operated in the Central Business District without complaint. • The applicants have indicated the production will let off steam but no odor or gas. Additionally, the building is set up with two controlled AC units, one to service the production area and another to service the tasting room. • While spent grains will be kept in sealed containers, onsite and indoors, it will be removed greater than one time weekly. o Parking: The property is located within the Downtown Parking District. With a 16-space parking lot to the north, onsite parking is available but will not accommodate the 21 spaces required for year-round use. Section 31-510, Subd 1 (d)(1)i of the Zoning Chapter allows "alternative provisions" to be applied to parking requirements when the property in question is located within a parking district. The application has been scheduled for consideration at the next Downtown Parking Commission meeting. • A loading dock and loading space is present at this time but is not required as part of the development as the manufacturing area is less than 10,000 square feet. • Comprehensive Plan - The Local Economy chapter of the City's Comprehensive Plan (Page 7-4) "encourages small locally owned businesses particularly in the downtown." Any additional conditions necessary for the public interest have been imposed; and Staff has not identified any public interest concerns. • Exterior changes - Section 31-319 of the Stillwater City Code requires that the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) conduct a design review on exterior changes, signage and waste receptacle. o The HPC has not reviewed any exterior changes. At this time, the applicant is seeking use permit approvals to begin the local, state, and federal licensing processes. • Miscellaneous Case No. 2016-39 CPC November 9, 2016 Page 2 o Plans and the use will need to be approved by the engineering, fire and building officials before the issuance of a building permit. The use or structure will not constitute a nuisance or be detrimental to the public welfare of the community. Staff has determined the distillery and tasting room would not be a detriment to the public if all distilling operations are conducted within the structure. ALTERNATIVES The Commission has the following options: A. Approve. If the proposed use permits meets the Special Use Permit guidelines, the CPC should move to approve Case No. 2016-39. Staff would recommend the following minimum condition for approval. 1. All signage approval shall go to the Heritage Preservation Commission for review and approval. 2. Exterior facade modifications, including the installation of signage, parking lot design plan, and outdoor eating area, shall be reviewed and approved by the Heritage Preservation Commission. 3. A trash removal plan shall be submitted and approved by the Community Development Director. If the plan does not include storage of trash inside the structure, the Heritage Preservation Commission shall review a proposed screening design. 4. Plans and the use will need to be approved by the engineering, fire and building officials before the issuance of a building permit. 5. Prior to the operation of the tasting room, the applicant shall secure an on premise license from the City Clerk's office. 6. Prior to distilling operations, the applicant shall secure state and federal permits and licenses. 7. All changes to the approved plans will need to be reviewed and approved by the Community Development Director. Any major changes will need to go to the Planning Commission for review and approval. S. Approve in part. C. Deny. If the CPC finds that the proposal is not consistent with the approved Special Use Permit guidelines, then the Commission could deny the request. With a denial, the basis of the action is required to be given. Furthermore, the denial would prohibit the applicant from resubmittal of a substantially similar application within one year. D. Table. If the CPC needs additional information to make a decision, the request could be tabled the December, 2016 meeting. The 60-0day deadline for CPC action is December 18, 2016. FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATION Case No. 2016-39 CPC November 9, 2016 Page 3 Staff finds that with certain conditions, the proposed distillery and outdoor dining area meet the Special Use Permit provisions. Staff recommends conditional approval of Case No. 2016-39. ATTACHMENTS Site Location Map Narrative Request (2 pages) Site and Floor Plan Case No. 2016-39 CPC November 9, 2016 Page 4 „.., . ,e_oirri (f) .., . 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Stillwater, MN 55082 651.343.1428 Christie.wanderer@yahoo.com The Wanderer Distilling Company files this application for consideration to obtain a Zoning permit to occupy, manufacture distilled products, and operate a tasting room at 124 2nd Street S., Stillwater Minnesota 55082. Wanderer Distilling Company will be a craft small batch distillery run by husband and wife team Andrew Mosiman and Christie Wanderer. Wanderer Distilling Company will produce and distill premium alcohol spirits including: vodka, rum, gin, and whiskey. We will use an American built custom still utilizing batch distillation to produce hand crafted quality spirits. Our process will use locally -sourced supplies and grains (as much as possible) to manufacture our products. We plan to emphasis "buy local" by educating our customers on the distilling process and giving them knowledge on how their distilled products are manufactured with local ingredients. The Distillery will provide tours to visitors, Fridays and Saturdays only, to demonstrate the distilling process of grain to bottle handcrafted spirits. The hour long tour will be lead by Andrew Mosiman, Head Distiller, who will describe the grain to bottle process and explain where our local grains come from and how they are turned into spirits. Tours will provide small tastings of spirit runs in production. In addition, the front part of the building will house a tasting room providing cocktails highlighting Wanderer Distilling Company spirits. The tasting room will be open Thursday (3 p.m.-12 a.m.), Friday (3 p.m.-12 a.m.), and Saturdays (12 p.m.- 12 a.m.) only. Minnesota law states that distillery tasting rooms can only mix and sell cocktails with liquor produced in the distillery and items purchased in a grocery store. This will differentiate us from other bars in the area as we can not sell any type of alcohol. The tasting menu will feature seasonal cocktails featuring different spirits with a Stillwater theme. The majority of the spirits sold will be through licensed distributors to liquor stores. By MN law the Distillery is not allowed to sell full bottles (750 ml) directly to customers. We can carry and sell 375 ml bottles which re limited in sale to one per person, per day. The distillery and tasting room will not be in competition with local liquor stores. Production of spirits (distillation runs) will take place throughout the week. Distilling spirits does not let off gas or produce any obnoxious odors. During distillation guests may not even realize distillation would be taking place. It will give off some steam, but the building is set-up with two controlled AC units. One in the front of the building, which will be for the tasting room, and one in the back to handle the production area. Distillation will produce spent grain that will need to be removed a couple times a week. Spent grain will be stored in closed containers till removed and taken to a local farm for livestock feed. Other than the installation trucks that will delivery our initial distilling equipment, we do not anticipate having any large delivery trucks coming to and from the property. We believe the inclusion of a Distillery in Stillwater will add to the local area and economy by providing an additional tourist spot for visitors. We have visited many of the other 16 Distilleries in Minnesota and have found people are very interested in understanding how spirits are made as well as supporting a locally based and produced product. Thank you for your consideration. Christie Wanderer Wanderer Distilling Company Andrew Mosiman Wanderer Distilling Company 124 2nd Street S., Stillwater MN 5582 - Wanderer Distilling Company Preliminary Layout Barrel Storage Bathroom Loading Dock Loading Dock *led 1 polled Bathroom • "Bottle Room". . Group room Production Area Bottling Bottling Bottling WorkTable WorkTable WorkTable Entrance Fermenter Hall Way to Restrooms Kitchen Sink Sink Counters Future Patio Expansion • • • • •� •• • • r • • • • • • • • • Production Area Fermenter Fermenter Fermenter Mas Storage Area Utility/Storage PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING DATE: November 9, 2016 CASE NO.: 2016-41 APPLICANT: Brian Larson, representing Theresa Millbourn, property owner REQUEST: Consideration of a Variance to the a Front Yard Setback and a setback from a steep slope greater than 24% for the property located at 2005 Hazel Court ZONING: RB-Two Family Res. COMP PLAN DISTRICT: Low/Medium Density Res. PREPARED BY: Abbi Jo Wittman, City Planner REQUEST Theresa Millbourn is requesting approval of: • A 10' variance to the 30' Front Yard setback for the construction of an attached garage. • A 15' variance to the 30' Steep Slope setback for the construction of a portion of a single family residence. APPLICABLE REGUALTIONS AND ANALYSIS The purpose of the variance application is to "...allow variation from the strict application of the terms of the zoning code where the literal enforcement...would cause practical difficulties for the landowner." In addition to the requirements, below, Section 31-208 indicates "[n]onconforming uses or neighboring lands, structures or buildings in the same district or other districts may not be considered grounds for issuance of a variance" and "...a previous variance must not be considered to have set a precedent for the granting of further variances. Each case must be considered on its merits." Section 31-208 further indicates: • Economic considerations alone do not constitute practical difficulties. • A previous variance must not be considered to have set a precedent for the granting of further variances. Each case must be considered on its merits. The applicant must demonstrate that: The variance is in harmony with the general purposes and intent of this chapter. The general purpose and intent of the Zoning Code is to regulate and restrict use of land for the protection of public health, safety and welfare. The purpose the Front Yard Setback is to maintain an open, unoccupied and uniform space for aesthetic and environmental benefits. The property owner is proposing maintaining a 20' Front Yard setback from the front yard property line. The garage will be situated approximately 45' from the edge of roadway, which is consistent with other properties on this cul-de-sac. The purpose of the slope regulations are to minimize the risks associated with project development in areas characterized by vegetation and steep or unstable slopes. These areas include ravines, blufflands and shorelands. The property owner is proposing most of the structure to be in conformance with 30' Steep Slope setback. Approximately 200 square feet of the home is proposed to be 20' from the bluffline. An additional 200 square feet of three - season porch area is proposed to be located in the 15' setback area. A further purpose is to avoid the visual impact of height, bulk and mass normally associated with building on any steep slope. As this structure will be located approximately 300' from the Hazel Street right-of-way, the house is unlikely to be visible from public lands. The variance is consistent with the comprehensive plan. The Comprehensive Plan does note this property as containing steep slopes. The plan does indicate the City to maintain buffers and setbacks to help protect these resources. The Plan does indicate the city work with developers or property owners to encourage design strategies that protect and improve the quality of resources. The owner is proposing to slope the roof of the primary portion of the home away from the bluff line to prevent future erosion on the property. The applicant for the variance establishes that there are practical difficulties in complying with this chapter. "Practical difficulties," as use in connection with the granting of a variance, means that all of the following must be found to apply: The property owner proposes to use the land in a reasonable manner for a use permitted in the zone where the land is located, but the proposal is not permitted by other official controls; The single family residential use proposed is allowed in the RB - Two Family Residential District. However, building on, in or within 30' of a steep slope is prohibited. The enclosed, three -season porch is the largest encroachment into the Steep Slope setback. This additional structural improvement is not a necessity for the residence but would allow for an additional amount of limited living area. The plight of the landowner is due to circumstances unique to the property and that are not created by the landowner; and Generally speaking variances to Steep slope Setbacks are made up by reducing the setback requirements on the Front or Side Yards of properties. The uniqueness to this application is that there are neighboring improvements, situated on the property line, that condense the developable area of the lot to less than 40' wide at its widest point. Specifically, an existing pond hugs the northwestern property line. As the property owner would like to avoid Case No. 2016-41 CPC: November 9, 2016 Page 2 of 4 negative impacts associated with building too close to the pond, a 10' Side Yard Setback is proposed to be maintained. Additionally, an existing driveway hammerhead is located on the Northeast property corner of the subject parcel, thus pushing the home closer to the Front Yard Setback area. The variance, if granted, will not alter the essential character of the locality. The structure, with its garage -forward design, would be nestled into the wooded lot, which is consistent with the properties on this cul-de-sac. ALTERNATIVES The Planning Commission has the following options: 1. Make findings practical difficulties do exist for the property owner and approve a 15' variance to construct within the 30' Steep Slope and 30' Front Yard setback areas on the property located at 2005 Hazel Court, with or without conditions. The Planning Commission may impose conditions in the granting of a variance. A condition must be directly related to and must bear a rough proportionality to the impact created by the variance. If the Commission were to find practical difficulties do exist for the property owner, staff would recommend the following conditions: a. Plans shall be substantially similar to those on file with the Community Development Department's Case No. 2016-41. b. A 15' setback shall be granted for a 12'X16' three -season screen porch only. All other structural improvements shall be located no closer than 20' to the 30' Steep Slope setback line. c. A building permit shall be reviewed and approved prior to the construction of the house and any associated improvements. d. Major exterior modifications to the variance permit request shall be reviewed by the Planning Commission as per Section 31-204, Subd. 7. 2. Make the findings practical difficulties have not been established and deny the variance. 3. Table the application and request additional information. FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATION Staff finds practical difficulty has been established for the 10' encroachment of a garage into the 20' Front Yard setback and recommends approval of Case No. 2016-41. Staff also finds practical difficulty has been established for the encroachment of the single family residence in the 30' Steep Slope area. However, practical difficulty has not been established for the construction of a three -season porch in this same setback area. Therefore, staff would recommend approval of a 10' variance to the 30' Steep Slope setback for the construction of portions of the single family residence but denial of a 15' variance to the 30' Steep Slope setback for the construction of a three -season porch. ATTACHMENTS Site Location Map Applicant and Future Homeowner Narratives (2 pages) Case No. 2016-41 CPC: November 9, 2016 Page 3 of 4 Aerial Image Certificate of Survey Site Area Plan Demonstration/Compliance Plan Proposed Site Plan House & Site Section Concept Rendering Case No. 2016-41 CPC: November 9, 2016 Page 4 of 4 0 The Birthplace of Minnesota 2005 Hazel Court GI Subject Property y4--Municipal Boundary Parcel Boundaries 140 280 560 Feet General Site Location p�r��i • D 1 \• ;••.-..-.._.._.._.._..-...••.._.1 -ri+ Stillwater Planning Commission City of Stillwater 216 North Fourth Street Stillwater MN 55082 10/19/2016 Dear Commissioners, The purpose of this letter is to describe in detail a proposed single family home at 2005 Hazel Court in Stillwater, and request variances for a front yard setback, and for a setback from a steep slope (greater than 24 percent), as noted below. This irregular shaped lot is the last unbuilt lot on Hazel Court, located in the Dutchtown neighborhood near the north edge of Stillwater. Most of the property is steeply sloped, with the only buildable area located along the northwest property line, adjacent to the next -door property: 2012 Hazel Court (Bob and Carol Slogar). As the attached aerial photos and survey information shows, there is an existing pond on the 2012 Hazel Court property which abuts and possibly encroaches over the property line., There are also portions of an existing fence and driveway from the 2012 Hazel Court property that extend well onto the 2005 Hazel Court property. The Owner and the Slogars have discussed this, and the Owner has granted an easement for the driveway encroachment on the 2005 Hazel Court property. Portions of the Slogar's fence on the 2005 property will have to be removed to create access to the proposed new house and garage. In consideration of the very limited buildable area of this lot that is not steeply sloped, and the existing adjacent lot conditions, the Owner is proposing a modest sized, 1500- 1600 sf, one -level, slab on grade residence, with an attached two stall garage. As attached drawing A indicates, a 1600 sf house footprint with 24 x 24 two stall garage could be squeezed onto the site without variances. But to do so would require pushing the house as tightly to the neighbor's sideyard as zoning setbacks allow (5-0 setback for the attached garage, and 10-0 setback for the house). This would result in very limited space for screening or planting between the new house and neighbor's property. It would also necessitate building within 5 to 10 feet of the existing pond all along the property line, likely causing damage to the pond and problems regarding constructability of the foundations of the proposed new house near the pond. The limited non -steeply sloped area of this site, along with the existing conditions (location of house, driveway and pond) of the adjacent property, create unusual conditions and practical difficulties for this landowner. Because of these difficulties, the Owner is requesting a front yard setback variance and a steep slope setback variance for their proposed home. Front Yard Setback Variance Request: As the attached Site Plan shows, we are requesting a variance of 10-0 to the front yard setback (requesting a 20-0 setback, vs. the 30-0 required) , to allow the house and garage to be shifted toward the cul-de-sac entrance. This allows the proposed house to move further away from the existing adjacent driveway and house. Due to the lot shape and sizable distance between cul-de- sac curb and property line, the garage would still be located over 50 feet from the street/cul-de-sac curb. Steep Slope setback Variance Request: As the attached Site Plan shows, we are requesting a variance of 15-0 to the steep slope setback (15-0 feet vs. 30-0) to allow the house and garage to be pivoted and shifted away from the northwest adjacent property line, creating a 10-0 minimum structure setback near the property line and pond, and creating more buffer space between the new house and the adjacent neighbors. In recognition of the intent of the steep slope ordinances, the primary roof slopes of the new house are designed to direct storm water away for the ravine and steep slope, directing some of it toward the existing street storm water system at the cul-de-sac, minimizing potential runoff and erosion from new construction on the site. Summary: The unusual shape and small buildable size of this lot, combined with existing conditions on its west and north edges, create unusual, unique conditions and practical difficulties for the lot and any new construction. The proposed new house is very modest, and appropriate in size in response to the constrictions of the site. The Owner has discussed her design intentions with all neighbors on the cul-de-sac and has received their support for the proposed new house and its location. We feel the house will be an asset, not detrimental to the neighborhood, and in appropriate scale with the overall context and character of the neighborhood. Thank you for your consideration Brian Larson AIA, Architect Representing Tess Milbourn, Owner Washington County 0 tco6 Neil.( rflOg-i At. Created on 3/13/2016 55 110 i t t 1 t 220 Feet I 1 MAP FOR REFERENCE ONLY NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT This drawing is the result of the compilation and reproduction of land records as they appear in various Washington County offices. The drawing should be used for referencepurposes only. Washington County is not responsible for any inaccuracies. CERTIFICATE OF SURVEY FOR: PAUL HUBER P.O. 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Stillwater, MN 55082 Phone 651.275.8969 Fax 651.275.8976 dan@ cssurvey .net DANIEL L. THURMES License No. 25718 Date: 02-19-16 REVISED 3-2-16 ADDED TOPO REVISED 3-2-16 CORNERSTONE LAND SURVEYING, INC. u t',TW1s POND e.tingt4u, volve.V arts noty 1' 'U'c 1.005 f Pt 1. 44 T s�r� AMA ?LAN evt+cwnNo aAticsor tiekr-ie-Vevqc 4i wave wrr� 9/4 3& C '<>4 ONS5R 55 �tP v ire A-8s .s _8sj-- 857_ BLUFF LINE k8s fp CC\-� 4tre QCb•IJ : kgoo 07F ticog* ceitaLLiown Wrwe-o- S \-7?,- 71 to•zo1141 was ik PRA* &T oiv /,v4itqT,y cAD 1 rie-Oitekr) M RAI - w 4 se—d' aonn‘i to k5'.0 `6,off u r4 %Jo" WWI* '1 15-0 -ri- 1$ -o Cam^ ,4galDtsMi +� ow* k ytTe.- FOOMPII Lore. 10-2aollo November 1, 2016 Abbi Jo Wittman, City Planner City of Stillwater 216 4th Street North Stillwater, MN 55082 RE: Case No. CPCV/2016-41 Received NOV 4 2016 Community Development Department Our home at 2001 Hazel Court is immediately adjacent to the property at 2005 Hazel Court. We have been contacted by both Brian Larson and Theresa Milbourn, who have provided us with a tour of the property in question as well as maps and elevations of the home proposed for that location. In our view, this plan is entirely in keeping with the flavor of the neighborhood, and as such we support the granting of the Variances for setbacks, both front yard and steep slope. James D. Purce Patricia L. Lockyear r) 200 Hazel Court Stillwater, MN 55082 i11watt THE BIRTHPLACE OF MINNESOTA TO: Planning Commission FROM: Bill Turnblad, Community Development Director DATE: November 4, 2016 RE: Short Term Vacation Rentals INTRODUCTION Earlier this year the City Council approved the use of planning consultants to assist with a study of short term vacation rental property. This was in response to complaints received from several B&B owners that the internet based industry was not allowed in Stillwater according to existing ordinances and that they were not paying lodging taxes. PROCESS 1. Research the topic a. Collect ordinances from other cities b. Research available literature c. Conduct survey 2. Solicit comments a. Stakeholders review the research and make comments b. Planning Commission reviews the research and makes comments 3. Work session with City Council and Stakeholders a. Council decides whether to develop an ordinance to permit STVR properties, or to stay with current prohibition 4. Ordinance development (assuming Council so directs) a. Planning Commission review of draft ordinance b. Planning Commission and Council public hearings COMMENTS City Planner Abbi Wittman will share the research and project progress with the Planning Commission on November 9, 2016. Commission comments will be added to the body of information that will then be assembled for presentation to the City Council at their work session on December 6, 2016. bt Attachments: Survey results Stakeholder comments Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN Do you think Stillwater'sCity Code should allow a homeowner to rent out their home (house, condominium, orroom) for short term vacations or stays? Yes No Answer Choices Yes No Total Answered: 622 Skipped: 4 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Responses 83.44% 519 16.56% 103 622 1/8 Short Term Horne Rental - Stillwater, MN Do you think a homeowner renting out their home (house, condominium, or room)for short stays should be required to live in the hometo act as a host forthe short term renters? Or should a homeowner be allowed to liveelsewhere while renting out their home forshort stays? Homeowner required to... Homeowner allowed to... Answered: 519 Skipped: 107 • • 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Answer Choices Homeowner required to live in the home during short term rental Homeowner allowed to liveelsewhere during short term rental Responses 8.48% 44 91.52°/ 475 Total 519'. 2/8 Short Term Horne Rental - Stillwater, MN Do you think short term home (house, condominium, or room) rentals where ahomeowner is living in the homeshould be regulated differently than short term home rentals where ahomeowner liveselsewhere during the short term rental? Yes, they should be... No, they should have ... Answered: 461 Skipped: 165 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Answer Choices Responses Yes, they should be regulated differently No, they should have the same regulations Total 27.11% 125 72.89% 336 461 3/8 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN In which areas of Stillwater should short term home (house, condominium, or room) rentals be allowed (select all that you find appropriate): Historic single-famil... Single-family neighborhood... Single-family neighborhood... Multiple -family neighborhoods Downtown Stillwater City wide Answered: 501 Skipped: 125 0% 1 0 % 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Answer Choices Responses Historic single-familyneighborhoods Single-family neighborhoods in central Stillwater Single-family neighborhoods in western Stillwater Multiple -family neighborhoods Downtown Stillwater City wide Total Respondents: 501 36.73% 33.13% 31.94% 31.34% 39.72% 91.62% 184 166 160 157 199 459 4/8 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN Answer Choices Yes No Do you think short term home (house, condominium, or room) rentals should be required to pay the 3% City Lodging Tax currently required for bed & breakfasts, hotels, and motels in Stillwater? Yes No Theyshould be taxed, but a... Answered: 498 Skipped: 128 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Theyshould be taxed, but at a different rate than traditional lodging establishments (explain further in comment box) Total Theyshould be taxed, but at a different rate than traditional lodging establishments (explain further in comment box) Responses 51.20% 255 37.55% 187 11.24% 56 Date 498 1 These renters are bring money to Stillwater 10/5/2016 4:58 PM 2 I'm confused why this would apply. Short-term rentals are not marketed or advertised in the same way as those businesses listed and are already paying for advertisement through the services they use to find renters. They do not have to be rezoned or otherwise regulated, so why should they pay a tax that goes to government or to advertising in ways they don't utilize when they already pay property taxes? If these businesses are taxed extra, a slippery slope for home businesses should be considered for additional taxes. What about Uber and Lyft? If there is a specific reason a tax should be applied to these types of rentals, the city should take care to be very specific about the reasoning. 10/5/2016 12:32 PM 3 For the 2 week and under federal exemption where it is not considered a business, it should be exempt or at least something extremely simple if there is pushback. Just think, you don't get sales tax on garage sales since that is small business. Also, other businesses are exempt from taxes if It is under a certain amount by law. 9/30/2016 9:05 AM 4 They need police services when something goes wrong, so they need to pay for protection. 9/30/2016 8:18 AM 5 Only for the actual rentals, not an ongoing tax for non rented dates 9/29/2016 7:40 AM 6 It would be worth looking at how this tax is established in cities where Airbnb and VRBO operate successfully 9/28/2016 12:36 PM 7 Based on percentage of income only, 9/27/2016 8:14 PM 8 If the rental is rented more than 6mo of year or more 9/27/2016 12:44 PM 9 What I would say is they should be taxed if this tax did anything for them that it does for hotels. 9/27/2016 10:47 AM 1/3 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 10 They should be taxed appropriately, as to how much income they make off the rental. The City lodging tax is for a full time business. 9/27/2016 9:50 AM 11 Is the city going to pay credit card processing fees for this tax? 9/27/2016 8:10 AM 12 Thay are not hotels, but lodging taxes should be simple and consistant across all types of lodging. Do hotels get any benefits from the tax? 9/27/2016 6:38 AM 13 If they are already paying tax as a home owner, they shouldn't be further taxed. 9/26/2016 11:19 PM 14 The rate should differ based on the type of establishment 9/26/2016 8:46 PM 15 I would be interested to see what the requirements are for the state lodging tax. Short term rental business is very different than having a hotel or motel. 9/26/2016 8:43 PM 16 If the owner lives in the house and is renting a room, no tax. If the owner lives elsewhere and rents the house/condo, then yes "tax" 9/26/2016 5:41 PM 17 This is different that hotels and b&b's 9/26/2016 2:22 PM 18 per case basis if occasional 9/26/2016 1:13 PM 19 Taxed based on usage with sliding scale. If you make $200 for a weekend, no tax; but if you make $200k a year, pay the full tax. It's still rental income. 9/26/2016 1:13 PM 20 Their revenue is significantly less than the B&B's, hotels, and motels. So the tax shouldn't be the same. 9/26/2016 10:19 AM 21 It would be unfair to treat different instances with similar ramifications 9/26/2016 8:25 AM 22 Only taxed if home/space is booked more than 4 months per year. 9/25/2016 9:14 PM 23 A different tax 9/25/2016 4:37 PM 24 These VRBOs benefit from the money collected to promote Stillwater and all of the events that bring visitors to our great town. If the lodging tax is used to appropriately to promote the city and its events, yes, short term rentals should pay a tax. 9/25/2016 9:26 AM 25 It depends on what the tax is used for. If it's used for marketing of hotels, I don't think it should be charged since these rentals wouldn't get that benefit presumably. 9/24/2016 10:31 PM 26 Rate should be lower if not full time rental but the same if full time rental. 9/24/2016 8:46 PM 27 Because the sole purpose is not to make a profit, they should be taxed at a rate that they could easily recoup from renters. 9/24/2016 6:07 PM 28 Use other comparable cities as a guide 9/24/2016 5:31 PM 29 If a home is being short term rented and the owner does not live there, yes to 3%. If they do live there, no. Less. Taxes are high and it may alleviate the tax burden and in some cases allow the homeowner to stay in their home with rental income. 9/24/2016 4:22 PM 30 If having short term rentals is costing the town of Stillwater money, then yes, something. Ideally less than 3%; maybe 1%-2% 9/24/2016 4:10 PM 31 The city lodging tax is odd for a small community, it puts additional book keeping burdens on everyone involved perhaps a city wide tax at a smiler percentage would be easier to administer. 9/24/2016 3:13 PM 32 It should be taxed the same, as it hurts lodging facilities to have short term rentals. 9/24/2016 3:05 PM 33 They should be permitted and taxed. 3% is not unrealistic, but I would caution the city not to tax them out of our city and into neighboring communities. Our city is becoming know as an unfriendly place to do business. 9/24/2016 3:04 PM 34 If occupied by person renting no but if a non -occupied then yes. 9/24/2016 1:28 PM 35 No tax! Honestly..how ridiculous! Let's bring in tourism and not worry about the taxes. I do believe renters should go through a vetting process of sorts before renting. 9/24/2016 1:00 PM 36 Not sure on this one, I would say whatever is the prevailing practice in other communities. 9/24/2016 12:51 PM 37 Instead of seeking more regulations and taxes, why not "even" the playing field by lessening the restrictions on Bed and Breakfasts instead? What is homeownership if you can't have visitors stay in your home without being subject to regulation and taxes? 9/24/2016 12:46 PM 38 Maybe half the rate? 9/24/2016 11:04 AM 2/3 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 39 It should be based on how many guest they have -if they have as many as bed and breakfast than 3% if it's just one or two a year then 0 or just make it 1,5% if this is hard to monitor 9/24/2016 7:57 AM 40 Not sure how well controlled the number of times the home is rented can be tracked. Perhaps equal % is best 9/24/2016 6:40 AM 41 They do not supply or serve food 9/23/2016 5:46 PM 42 Reported as income tax as well 9/23/2016 1:40 PM 43 Taxed,but depends on how often they are renting out their property. 9/23/2016 1:05 PM 44 they are not open seven days a week all year round like hotels and motels and b&bs are 9/23/2016 12:35 PM 45 It does pose somewhat of a problem due to the fact that the 'BnB's, etc are (assumably) required to have a business license and submit taxes required with that license. If the owner of the (under consideration) 'condo' wants to rent out his 'condo' on a regular basis, then he, too, should be required to obtain a 'business license' and be taxed same as the BnB's. Maybe there should be a limit on how often the condo owner may rent out his property before being required to obtain a 'lodging license' 9/23/2016 11:42 AM 46 Depends on what that tax covers--? 9/23/2016 11:18 AM 47 I'm not sure about this one. 9/23/2016 10:28 AM 48 Maybe 1 1/2% instead of 3% 9/23/2016 9:55 AM 49 All should pay the same. Why should it be different? Whether your up on the hill or downtown. what's the difference? 9/23/2016 9:46 AM 50 The homeowner will be paying income tax on any revenue earned and should not be taxed again 9/23/2016 8:58 AM 51 They are different lodging circumstances, but it would even the playing field to have some sort of tax. Stillwater's downtown lodging is sub -par and outdated. We need options that raise the bar for our community. 9/23/2016 8:19 AM 52 There should be a tax specifically on the amount of tenants that come to the house in a year 9/23/2016 6:14 AM 53 no comment at this time, more info needed 9/22/2016 9:48 PM 54 All should pay the same CL Tax. 9/22/2016 8:03 PM 55 Something like 1.5% 9/22/2016 6:33 PM 56 No, as it may not be a full time business 9/22/2016 5:51 PM 3/3 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 6 7 8 What impacts or concerns would your anticipate if short term home (house, condominium, or room) rentals were permitted in your neighborhood? Answered: 345 Skipped: 281 Responses none If the city council desires to make changes to residential zoning and special use permits, now or in the future, they should come as a result of changes to the underlying goals and requirements — not because people with a new business model want to enter the lodging industry. Any of us currently in the short term (as apposed to long term - over 30 days) lodging business could change our business model anytime. What should be constant and universally regulated/enforced are goals like: • Keeping residential neighborhoods "residential" Preserving or improving Stillwater's residential neighborhoods — physically, aesthetically, residents' satisfaction level & sense of community, and etc. • Preserving or improving Stillwater's reputation as a great place to live • Preserving or improving Stillwater's reputation as a great place to visit • Limiting traffic, noise, crime and other none -residential nuisances • Ensuring a healthy and safe environment for out of town guests • Balancing the desire for new entrepreneurial opportunities vs new or increased city services and costs (costs to then be balanced between taxes and licensing fees) I personally believe that the current goals and resulting regulations have worked pretty well for the 131/2 years I've been involved but If the city council wants to modify or drop any of these goals (and corresponding regulations) we should be involved and the final results should be applied universally/equally to all short term lodging establishments in residential areas. Parking would be a problem. I have the same concerns for permanent neighbors. Only more revenue for businesses in the city. I've rented many of short term houses and never experienced anything by courteous neighbors and receptive communities. there should be fines against both the renters and homeowners if police are called due to renters disturbing the peace of the neighborhood. on street parking Our family moved to Stillwater to be a PART of a neighborhood. When there are renters (unless long-term renters, and even then sometimes the following holds true), that home isn't part of the neighborhood. The greetings, safety, sense of community all occur when people live next to each other and gain knowledge and trust of one another, oftentimes becoming lifelong friends. When a home can be rented out on a short-term basis, all of those pieces disappear. Our family moved into a single family housing neighborhood intentionally. Previously, we had lived in Maplewood and group homes were quickly taking over the neighborhood. Similar to a rental home, we weren't able to establish relationships with the group homes as they consisted of employees and residents who weren't able to develop relationships. We would be very concerned if one of our neighbors rented out their home short term. I get the idea and actually have looked into vrbo for our own vacations (although never ended up using one), however, renters are strangers and I believe all of our neighbors would be very concerned about the young children being outdoors with strangers living for a weekend in one of the houses on our street. We know everyone in our neighborhood and work hard to get to know new neighbors. We have block parties, a Facebook page, etc. to build community among us. If one of the neighbors decided to start renting out their home on short term rentals, it would change the safe feeling we have worked so hard to create in our neighborhood. There might be a neighborhood zone where this might be fitting, but not in our single family home zoned neighborhood please. 9 Erosion of neighborhood. 10 None as long as renters require age requirments for renting. 11 Noise 12 None 13 None 14 Possibly noise Date 10/6/2016 12:14 PM 10/5/2016 10:53 PM 10/5/2016 10:47 PM 10/5/2016 5:12 PM 10/5/2016 12:36 PM 10/4/2016 5:13 PM 10/4/2016 11:49 AM 10/3/2016 5:22 PM 10/3/2016 10:43 AM 10/2/2016 10:47 PM 10/1/2016 7:26 AM 10/1/2016 6:18 AM 10/1/2016 12:36 AM 9/30/2016 8:27 PM Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 15 Taking away business from our historic B and B's. Would they be expected to meet standards set for B and B's? Would neighbors be consulted if it is something they want in neighborhood? Would home owner be expected to be home when renter there? Noise and safety issues. Childrens safety when playing outside. Increased traffic in neighborhood. 9/30/2016 6:54 PM 16 Neighborhood safety, parking issues, snow removal, consent from neighbors, homeowner presence during rental, city follow through, health inspections 9/30/2016 6:42 PM 17 None, I would be on site and I have off street parking availble. 9/30/2016 10:07 AM 18 None 9/30/2016 9:20 AM 19 If there are several rooms they rent out, it could increase traffic. However, smaller types have no more impact than a neighbor having guests over. I have a neighbor that takes in relatives and that has more traffic and issues than the 2 weeks max for Airbnb. Also there are checks on guests and ratings. I only take highly rated guests and no problems and more respectful of my home than relatives to be honest. 9/30/2016 9:17 AM 20 None 9/30/2016 8:22 AM 21 None 9/29/2016 10:45 AM 22 absentee landlords not invested in the neighborhood renting to weekend partiers and neighbors having to put up with the noise, cars pared on the street, etc. Keep neighborhoods for residents only 9/29/2016 10:21 AM 23 N/A 9/29/2016 7:43 AM 24 only issue is parking 9/28/2016 8:30 PM 25 No monitoring of renters. Noise, outside activities. Parking. 9/28/2016 7:46 PM 26 none 9/28/2016 4:31 PM 27 none 9/28/2016 3:55 PM 28 None! 9/28/2016 2:55 PM 29 Noise and poor behavior by some renters. 9/28/2016 2:55 PM 30 Does short term turn into long term. Do they need to claim for tax purposes like a rental owner? How do you know? Does their house need to be insured like commercial now rather than residential? 9/28/2016 2:41 PM 31 Noise. Damage 9/28/2016 2:24 PM 32 Possible noise 9/28/2016 2:05 PM 33 they could commercialize the area, add traffic, add noise, add crime. if absentee owners allowed, owner involvement will fall and properties and neighborhoods will degrade 9/28/2016 1:47 PM 34 Noise control,no parties after ten o clock, a maximum number of people allowed, etc 9/28/2016 12:41 PM 35 Parking, 9/28/2016 12:30 PM 36 Noise.traffic. I would want people v within a block to ok it near their home 9/28/2016 10:26 AM 37 n/a 9/28/2016 9:42 AM 38 Most vrbo, or airbnb customer's are very respectful to not only the property they are staying at, but all the surrounding neighbor's! 9/28/2016 8:48 AM 39 Too transient of a population. I don't want a hotel -type arrangement in my neighborhood. 9/28/2016 6:48 AM 40 None 9/28/2016 6:40 AM 41 Don't see any issues. 9/27/2016 11:01 PM 42 Quality of life disturbances 9/27/2016 8:27 PM 43 None 9/27/2016 8:16 PM 44 It will only increase tourism 9/27/2016 8:10 PM 45 Safety and security 9/27/2016 7:51 PM 46 Parking issues, noise complaints 9/27/2016 7:04 PM 47 No worries 9/27/2016 6:38 PM 48 Vacant rental homes during the week in residential neighborhoods. Ruins community. Devalues houses. 9/27/2016 4:47 PM 2/11 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 49 I live in a nice family neighborhood, I don't need strangers in and out next door. This creates noise, cleanliness and safety problems. 9/27/2016 3:15 PM 50 Possible parking, noise or conduct disturbances. 9/27/2016 2:34 PM 51 Frequency and duration of rental. Reasonable lease duration limits are acceptable, such as no rentals to exceed one month and a minimum 6 months between leases. This would prevent a residence becoming a transient household. 9/27/2016 2:29 PM 52 None 9/27/2016 2:20 PM 53 Transient people coming through, decreased maintaine to the home that could potentially bring down my property value. Added noise. 9/27/2016 2:20 PM 54 traffic concerns; people moving in and out; people living short term have no vested interest in the overall comunity 9/27/2016 2:15 PM 55 My neighborhood is already over run with party venue's allowed by or run by the city if I can't beat them I might as well join them 9/27/2016 2:06 PM 56 Parking and noise. It's usually large groups that are utilizing this type of rentals 9/27/2016 12:49 PM 57 Noise levels and respect for neighbors property 9/27/2016 12:46 PM 58 No real concerns. I think Homeowners will manage effectively. 9/27/2016 12:33 PM 59 Parking (by renters and their guests) and unruly parties that disrupt the peace in the neighborhood 9/27/2016 11:51 AM 60 Safety concerns for the renters that might be overlooked if its unregulated. 9/27/2016 11:37 AM 61 None 9/27/2016 11:12 AM 62 I feel it would benefit both visitor and renter! One gets to visit and enjoy the wonderful city of Stillwater if there were more places to stay. 9/27/2016 11:11 AM 63 I think this will only help the city. People that rent rooms will have an incentive to maintain their homes, property and the city in general. 9/27/2016 10:57 AM 64 None 9/27/2016 9:51 AM 65 Parking available. 9/27/2016 8:43 AM 66 Not knowing the safety of getting to know your neighbors, not knowing who is my neighbor night after night 9/27/2016 8:42 AM 67 Less drinking and driving. 9/27/2016 8:13 AM 68 My only concern would be guests being excessively loud. Given that Stillwater already has numerous B&Bs and this doesn't seem to be a big issue, I'm not overly concerned about it. A potential positive impact would be increased tourism, especially by young people, who tend to use short term home rentals more. 9/27/2016 8:03 AM 69 None 9/27/2016 7:53 AM 70 none 9/27/2016 7:32 AM 71 None 9/27/2016 7:28 AM 72 None 9/27/2016 7:12 AM 73 None 9/27/2016 6:20 AM 74 STHR bring new people to the neighborhoods and people often are scared of new, but that is also an opportunity. 9/27/2016 1:21 AM 75 None 9/26/2016 11:20 PM 76 Noise complaints 9/26/2016 11:06 PM 77 Noise and parking issues - which could be handled with good information provided to the renters. 9/26/2016 10:32 PM 78 None. Parking could be an issue 9/26/2016 10:17 PM 79 Traffic, crime, property values 9/26/2016 9:31 PM 80 None. Homeowners choice 9/26/2016 9:30 PM 81 There should be limit of how many cars can be parked outside property. Housing/health code inspections should be made of motels, hotels, bed and breakfasts, and private rentals. Perhaps some sort of signage should be displayed to designate if a home is a rental property? 9/26/2016 9:20 PM 82 My biggest concerns are noise level and number of cars parked. But, I feel that those types of issues can be regulated. 9/26/2016 8:51 PM 3/11 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 83 84 85 86 1 I do not anticipate them if the property owner is active and properly educated. 9/26/2016 8:50 PM Noise, traffic, parking issues 9/26/2016 8:49 PM Safely would be a concern especially with children in the neighbourhood.c 9/26/2016 8:47 PM Reasonably predictable impacts of rental are likely no greater and, perhaps, less than disruptions that occur on a 9/26/2016 8:45 PM regular basis with existing homeowners --barking dogs, loud parties, domestic incidents, extra parking by numerous guests, etc. 87 Primarily noise and parking issues. 9/26/2016 8:42 PM 88 No concerns 9/26/2016 8:41 PM 89 90 91 92 93 People would take advantage of this and neighbors would suffer as properties could be rented short term to Social 9/26/2016 8:33 PM Services clients. none 9/26/2016 8:19 PM Parking, noise, unavailabilty of homeowner to respond to issues/complaints (much like traditional rentals), crime. Ruin the nature of the town...bring more transient environment to the neighborhoods ... increase in crime none 94 None. 9/26/2016 8:19 PM 9/26/2016 8:10 PM 9/26/2016 7:54 PM 9/26/2016 7:46 PM 95 I think it's great! Other cities have issues with vacant properties - we should embrace people coming to Stillwater not punish the people providing them a nice place to stay. 96 None 97 noise complaints. 9/26/2016 7:44 PM 9/26/2016 7:19 PM 9/26/2016 7:09 PM 98 No concerns! The way I see it, the more people are visiting our city, the more people are shopping, eating in restaurants, renting boats, and then telling their friends about the experience so that more people will visit. 99 They support businesses and bring positive awareness to the City. 100 None. 101 noise, traffic 102 What constitutes short term? 103 The behavior/age of the renters. As well as how many cars, etc are permitted. 9/26/2016 6:46 PM 9/26/2016 6:21 PM 9/26/2016 5:46 PM 9/26/2016 5:43 PM 9/26/2016 4:49 PM 9/26/2016 3:54 PM 104 The opportunity to meet people from other areas/ countries and cultures 105 106 107 Noise and disruptive behavior None I guess I don't really have a concern. Probably mostly that the renters are not partying and destroying property 9/26/2016 3:52 PM 9/26/2016 2:53 PM 9/26/2016 2:31 PM 9/26/2016 2:23 PM 108 None 9/26/2016 1:19 PM 109 parking 110 Limit the number of short term rentals. Enforce parking regulations. 9/26/2016 1:15 PM 9/26/2016 1:14 PM 111 We rented a VRBO in the Florida Keys and it was awesome. Though to be fair, it was in a gated community with rules 9/26/2016 12:26 PM and restrictions (garbage, pool). 112 N/A 9/26/2016 12:00 PM 113 Run down homes would be fixed up. This question is phrased in a way that only the "bad things'. (i.e., "concerns") are 9/26/2016 10:52 AM considered. 114 Not enough convents in the city to prevent misuse. 115 nothing 116 Noise, people that don't care about the property they are staying in 117 None 118 Well managed vacation rentals are a benefit to communities and I have no concerns other than longer waits at restaurants. 9/26/2016 10:24 AM 9/26/2016 10:22 AM 9/26/2016 9:54 AM 9/26/2016 9:53 AM 9/26/2016 9:40 AM 4/11 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 119 None. Many residents spend their winters away from the community, leaving their homes empty. By allowing short term rentals, these homes would at least have activity, and be more of a deterrent for possible burglary. 9/26/2016 9:37 AM 120 frequency and length of rental 9/26/2016 9:32 AM 121 Traffic, loud tenants. Loss of business for local bed and breakfast establishments. 9/26/2016 9:24 AM 122 Min 4 day stay - eliminates weekend warriors 9/26/2016 9:11 AM 123 None 9/26/2016 8:54 AM 124 If short term rentals are allowed, there will have to be an increase in the police force to accommodate the calls from drunken revelers in the normally quiet neighborhoods. I don't see how it can be in the interest of the residents of Stillwater to have to pay for additional policemen/women when there is no coincident benefit (especially to the police who live next door to the short term rentals). People go to Pappy's in the summer and get really drunk. A lot of them are boaters, so they are already 3 sheets to the wind by the time they get to Pappys. If you put those people in neighborhoods, I pitty the year round residents who have to deal with it (especially since I might be one of those residents). I live next door to a rental house. Please don't approve this! Please ...! What I most like about Stillwater is that it is a quiet, law abiding town. Please don't turn it into a city full of FLOP HOUSES. How can you consider short term rental accommodations as anything other than FLOP HOUSES? 9/26/2016 8:50 AM 125 Parking issues 9/26/2016 7:48 AM 126 Parties. Noise. Not neighborly. 9/25/2016 8:59 PM 127 No impacts just more tourism 9/25/2016 8:48 PM 128 no concerns 9/25/2016 8:33 PM 129 None really 9/25/2016 7:29 PM 130 I think it would be bad for the Bed and Breakfasts of Stillwater. They would have more competition and Bed and Breakfasts already pay higher taxes. The last thing they need is more competition 9/25/2016 7:11 PM 131 Enhances our city, allows for more diversity, opens up Stillwater to national and international exposure and hot spot for vacationers, positively impacts local business and community, allows for homeowners to use their home as they wish. Win win. 9/25/2016 4:41 PM 132 Types of people renting & are they must qualify 9/25/2016 4:38 PM 133 None 9/25/2016 4:03 PM 134 Quality of guests 9/25/2016 2:58 PM 135 Taking away short term home rentals would take away from business downtown stillwater when businesses need all the help they can get. 9/25/2016 1:47 PM 136 Impact on home values could be negative, potential for unlawfully activity, change in traffic patterns, lost and or unrealized tax and employment revenue by the city / county / state. 9/25/2016 10:50 AM 137 Need to also apply lodging tax to the fees charged by homeaway and Airbnb that are indeed part of the rental 9/25/2016 9:33 AM 138 Noise and a lack of respect for neighbors. This can kept in check easily by the homeowners being in the home they are renting and not being a 'landlord from afar'. Other parameters like deposits, age and size of party renting can be added as measure sure of control, if needed. 9/25/2016 9:29 AM 139 None 9/25/2016 9:15 AM 140 I have no concerns and am on board with the concept! 9/25/2016 9:05 AM 141 No concern. I have used AirBNB lots of times. It is primarily used by people trying to save money while traveling. 9/25/2016 8:59 AM 142 property decline 9/25/2016 7:32 AM 143 Parking, partying noise that likely would not occur with resident. 9/25/2016 7:30 AM 144 Swingers' parties (orgies), drunken parties, illegal drug use and sales, underage drinking, crowded parking on streets. 9/25/2016 7:27 AM 145 Noise, parties 9/25/2016 7:03 AM 146 Party noise 9/25/2016 6:28 AM 147 Guests who act inappropriately 9/25/2016 5:17 AM 148 That the owner would not enforce rules- e.g. no parties, late nights, etc. But that could happen even if it was not a vacation rental. 9/25/2016 4:52 AM 5/11 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 149 Would the people renting these rooms, homes, or condos have to apply for a business permit? Would there be a background check on the renters ( local, state, federal background check)? 9/25/2016 12:03 AM 150 Monitoring noise and consideration of neighbors 9/24/2016 11:55 PM 151 Party houses, late -night noise, more parking on the street 9/24/2016 10:53 PM 152 Minimal impact in my neighborhood. A good permitting system, a tax on the use, and strong enforcement of city code can keep the impact on the community down. 9/24/2016 10:42 PM 153 none 9/24/2016 10:34 PM 154 I think it would only be good for the city. There is a serious lack of lodging downtown and expanding options would increase tourism to our great town! 9/24/2016 10:33 PM 155 Noise, crime 9/24/2016 10:20 PM 156 None 9/24/2016 10:15 PM 157 None 9/24/2016 9:47 PM 158 lack of property upkeep, noise, traffic, "partying", no investment in the local community or neighborhood by people who rent these. 9/24/2016 9:45 PM 159 None 9/24/2016 9:31 PM 160 The potential is there for significant economic impact. Especially in downtown and in nearby historical neighborhoofs, lodging options are limited, yet these are the areas where tourists want to stay. Making short term home rentals legal will bring in more lodging opportunities, thus more tourist dollars, to Stillwater. 9/24/2016 8:55 PM 161 Traffic. 9/24/2016 8:53 PM 162 None. Would increase tourism. 9/24/2016 8:47 PM 163 Might boost the economy...duh! 9/24/2016 8:27 PM 164 Noise 9/24/2016 6:55 PM 165 None 9/24/2016 6:49 PM 166 possible parking and noise issues... 9/24/2016 6:38 PM 167 Airbnb, VRBO, and similar services provide screening and insurance to avoid issues. In the exceedingly rare situation where there is an issue, they tend to be very proactive about resolving it. 9/24/2016 6:26 PM 168 Main concerns is cereal rentals as a means of income without regulation. 9/24/2016 6:25 PM 169 Purpose, length of stay, city noise ordinance being enforced. 9/24/2016 6:09 PM 170 I don't want strangers in my neighborhood. 9/24/2016 5:50 PM 171 None 9/24/2016 5:34 PM 172 Parking mostly, then noise 9/24/2016 5:22 PM 173 None 9/24/2016 5:14 PM 174 Potential for late night shenanigans and vandalism, so would like neighbors to know which homes are rentals so we can keep an eye on our own property and alert police if there are any issues. Likewise, police should be aware of whether or not they are responding to the homeowner of the property or a short term renter. 9/24/2016 5:13 PM 175 Number of guests permitted at one time. 9/24/2016 5:06 PM 176 Loud parties 9/24/2016 4:54 PM 177 none, i think it's a great way for non residents to experience and fall in love with our town 9/24/2016 4:47 PM 178 The number of vehicles should be limited and noise. A high level of respect for neighbors would need to be adhered to. 9/24/2016 4:26 PM 179 I fully support this idea. People visiting Stillwater are not a problem population. 9/24/2016 4:04 PM 180 I see no downside to this. I find it appalling that the city is so anxious to shut this type of business down when rental houses are completely unregulated. If a homeowner decides to turn their house into a rental property and stops doing maintenance on it, there is no response by the city. The lack of rental regilation is much more harmful to property values of neighbors and much Tess community building than VRBO/AirBnB. I see VRBO houses as well maintained and seeking good online reviews, so they try to be good neighbors. 9/24/2016 3:23 PM 6/11 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 181 noise and maintanence, although healthy competition may improve all of Stillwater's lodging experience and boost property values 9/24/2016 3:16 PM 182 I think safety could be an issue. People are not background checked. It concerns me that folks might be disruptive, etc. 9/24/2016 3:14 PM 183 No different than any other neighbor 9/24/2016 3:06 PM 184 I'm not concerned. I've rented homes while vacationing in other areas, it's a great alternative to having to stay in a hotel. 9/24/2016 2:55 PM 185 These rentals are currently unregulated (3 in our neighborhood) — uninspected by the health department or the fire department. Sometimes they are stuffed with more people than a house that size can safely handle. And the city has turned a blind eye to this for years. 9/24/2016 2:55 PM 186 Potential noise 9/24/2016 2:47 PM 187 Patrons staying respectful 9/24/2016 2:45 PM 188 De value ov 9/24/2016 2:26 PM 189 You want to know your neighbors, at least who they are and that they have the community's best interest. 9/24/2016 2:25 PM 190 It's great for tourism!!!! 9/24/2016 2:09 PM 191 Nothing 9/24/2016 2:07 PM 192 None. 9/24/2016 1:58 PM 193 Parking problems, traffic congestion, noise, deterioration of community atmosphere, safety concerns in unregulated housing 9/24/2016 1:58 PM 194 I don't live in an area that would likely matter, but I would think some neighbor's would want to ensure they stay safe. 9/24/2016 1:43 PM 195 No regard for neighbors as there is no vested interest from short term occupants 9/24/2016 1:35 PM 196 The city should not interfere with the rights of property owners. Sounds to me like we have over regulated. 9/24/2016 1:34 PM 197 None 9/24/2016 1:32 PM 198 There may be guests who are are disrespectful. 9/24/2016 1:31 PM 199 None 9/24/2016 1:29 PM 200 I think it coukd very positive. Homeowners act as a tour guide if they want fir tourists. My daughter stayed at one in Boston. She was doing an externship for veterinary and this was an affordable alternative to a hotel 9/24/2016 1:17 PM 201 NONE if renters vett their renters 9/24/2016 1:04 PM 202 No real concerns, just ask that there be a uniform set of expectations, that people be provided with the same information, information that is relevant at least, as residents. I'm referring to things like Calendar parking, noise ordinances, that sort of thing. 9/24/2016 12:55 PM 203 None 9/24/2016 12:50 PM 204 Noise complaints in family neighborhoods, property values falling due to inconsistent neighbors 9/24/2016 12:37 PM 205 none 9/24/2016 12:28 PM 206 Noise 9/24/2016 12:26 PM 207 None. It's not impacting me now even though its happening. 9/24/2016 12:11 PM 208 Security in apartments. Loud noise 9/24/2016 12:06 PM 209 Safety! 9/24/2016 12:03 PM 210 None with proper background checks. 9/24/2016 11:55 AM 211 Parties!!! Noise!!! 9/24/2016 11:51 AM 212 Increased property crime, traffic and all around nuisance 9/24/2016 11:50 AM 213 Safety for neighbors. 9/24/2016 11:39 AM 214 Parking - should be limited to one visiting vehicle at a time. 9/24/2016 11:27 AM 215 Parking issues. If a house is rented it is typically for larger groups and probably more than one vehicle. 9/24/2016 11:27 AM 7/11 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 216 parking, too many people 9/24/2016 11:24 AM 217 Parking, noise, impacts on neighborhood children. 9/24/2016 11:23 AM 218 no concerns 9/24/2016 11:22 AM 219 There are already two B&B's and two houses that are divided into apartments in our neighborhood, so no different. More traffic is the biggest issue. 9/24/2016 11:21 AM 220 Unknown tenants, increased traffic and potential for noise pollution. 9/24/2016 11:17 AM 221 No concems. People should be able to do as they wish with their property as long as they continue to be good neighbors. 9/24/2016 11:17 AM 222 none 9/24/2016 11:15 AM 223 None. Brings people to the city. 9/24/2016 11:14 AM 224 I wouldn't expect any impact if the homeowner was responsible 9/24/2016 11:14 AM 225 Noise is a concern 9/24/2016 11:13 AM 226 None 9/24/2016 11:05 AM 227 Safety, the neighbors should receive a notice of the renters. Pictures of the renters and length of the stay. 9/24/2016 11:02 AM 228 Possibility of Thefts and vandalism 9/24/2016 11:02 AM 229 None 9/24/2016 11:02 AM 230 More crime in the neighborhoods 9/24/2016 10:59 AM 231 Positive impact for local businesses and tourism, property values will go up because more people will invest in homes and use as a business, and take care of them. 9/24/2016 10:56 AM 232 None 9/24/2016 10:54 AM 233 None 9/24/2016 10:51 AM 234 no parking, loud parties, renter over loading (to may people in rental) 9/24/2016 10:42 AM 235 Parking, but that's an issue already needing to be addressed in Stillwater! There isn't enough parking downtown. 9/24/2016 10:25 AM 236 I don't have any. 9/24/2016 9:20 AM 237 None 9/24/2016 9:11 AM 238 None 9/24/2016 8:55 AM 239 None 9/24/2016 8:37 AM 240 Traffic 9/24/2016 8:24 AM 241 Parking, late night noise, trash? We do have a B&B and their is no problems though. 9/24/2016 8:04 AM 242 Transient meth labs. 9/24/2016 8:00 AM 243 I would be concerned about transient visitors who do not respect the neighborhood. 9/24/2016 7:54 AM 244 Biggest concern would be noise. Parking could also be an issue,but that could be regulated to whatever is available to the homeowner under normal use. 9/24/2016 7:40 AM 245 No concerns. 9/24/2016 7:36 AM 246 Not knowing who is residing next door (sex offender), loud parties, additional traffic, could be used as a temporary drug house or other illegal use. That's why we have zoning laws. Hotels etc should be located in commercial districts not residential. B & B' s are at least monitored by the owner who lives on site. 9/24/2016 6:28 AM 247 the fact that I bought a home in a neighborhood that is not zoned for B&B. If it were a commercial district or an already -established B&B, that is different from residential neighborhoods suddenly going "commercial" 9/23/2016 11:46 PM 248 Quality of renters, compliance of codes/law by renters. 9/23/2016 11:45 PM 249 Stupid drunk people with no regard for the families that really live there. 9/23/2016 8:15 PM 250 Parking 9/23/2016 7:28 PM 251 Damage to the fabric of the neighborhoods by adding transient visitors. 9/23/2016 7:10 PM 8/11 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 252 Noise parking 9/23/2016 6:23 PM 253 None 9/23/2016 5:47 PM 254 Concerned that that additional income isn't taxed 9/23/2016 4:46 PM 255 Decline in quality of neighbors, lower property values, and worsening yard and building upkeep. 9/23/2016 4:41 PM 256 Nothing 9/23/2016 4:13 PM 257 parking 9/23/2016 4:07 PM 258 This is a residential community and not one for short term residents who may become a public safety concern. If you can't afford living in your home without renting it out on a short term basis, then sell it. 9/23/2016 3:53 PM 259 I've been renting my condo on VRBO in Mpls for 4 years, and have no issues as you regulate who stays at your home. The benefit of short term is your place doesn't get trashed from long term rentals. Also you make 2 to 3 night minimums to avoid parties of groups of guests. 9/23/2016 3:20 PM 260 Nosy neighbors complaining about things they normally would not complain about. 9/23/2016 2:33 PM 261 No impact other than traffic - house needs to have appropriate parking space and no large parties allowed. 9/23/2016 2:15 PM 262 None 9/23/2016 1:33 PM 263 None 9/23/2016 1:20 PM 264 Noise violations, party houses. 9/23/2016 1:07 PM 265 just as bed and breakfasts have rules of decorum I would expect the same of short term rentals 9/23/2016 12:37 PM 266 Noise and parking issues. 9/23/2016 12:33 PM 267 I would be concerned about health hazards, additional noise with loud parties, and misuse of the property 9/23/2016 12:20 PM 268 None 9/23/2016 12:14 PM 269 Traffic, but my experience found that most limit the number of guests according to home space and also limit # of vehicles based on parking availability. 9/23/2016 12:14 PM 270 As long as the owner requires the renters/ and is ultmately responsible for, them to respect the neighborhood, 9/23/2016 11:50 AM property, noises, etc. I have no objections. 271 None 9/23/2016 11:47 AM 272 Types of renters, impact on schools/kids, background checks required 9/23/2016 11:25 AM 273 Want to make sure homes are maintained and lived in during times of non -rental. Don't want entire neighborhoods emptying out. 9/23/2016 11:19 AM 274 added traffic and safety/security in the neighborhood 9/23/2016 11:12 AM 275 noise regulation, safety concerns, limits on number of guests, pets, length of stay, how often they can rent out the house, etc. 9/23/2016 11:08 AM 276 None 9/23/2016 10:37 AM 277 No tangible impact 9/23/2016 10:28 AM 278 We have a few already in our south hill neighborhood. I am concerned with the increased traffic and parked cars on the weekends. We have small kids and we already have enough people speeding through thinking they can bypass 36 and get downtown from our area. I am als concerned with the late night noise these rentals have brought to the neighborhood. 9/23/2016 10:24 AM 279 I already have a house two doors down that rents. And its fine. Concern would be as if it was a bad owner that moved next door but then it's harder to get them out. Here we have options. If it was continued loud noise or so many grievances against the property I think their priveldge to do this gets taken away temporarily at first then permanent 9/23/2016 10:20 AM 280 No concerns! 9/23/2016 10:16 AM 281 None 9/23/2016 10:15 AM 282 Nothing but positive 9/23/2016 10:14 AM 283 None 9/23/2016 10:12 AM 284 Parking is limited, extra traffic, late night disturbances. 9/23/2016 10:11 AM 9/11 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 285 none 9/23/2016 10:07 AM 286 NONE 9/23/2016 10:05 AM 287 Better upkeep at the properties. 9/23/2016 10:02 AM 288 None as long as the person who is renting out their place understands that they still have neighbors and the renter understands it too. They both respect that. 9/23/2016 9:59 AM 289 None. Their are enough laws to enforce citizens in our city. 9/23/2016 9:58 AM 290 None 9/23/2016 9:55 AM 291 Renters should be properly vetted, damage deposit made. 9/23/2016 9:52 AM 292 Meet safety codes. Rentals should be held to the same standards/codes that the existing neighborhood does.No more no less.lf your a renter and sleeping there or your a neighbor sleeping in there own house, what's the difference? 9/23/2016 9:52 AM 293 NONE 9/23/2016 9:42 AM 294 Do you know who these folks would be and whConsieere they come from?. 9/23/2016 9:40 AM 295 That whomever is renting is respectful and quiet, or they can be evicted. 9/23/2016 9:36 AM 296 None 9/23/2016 9:35 AM 297 Downtown - I don't see much of an issue. This is a small city, but a city nonetheless. In any neighborhood or condo situation, I think that there should be rules against partying or causing a disturbance (which is already the case with the owners themselves). Maybe a three strike situation, but each disturbance case should be evaluated per situation. 9/23/2016 9:28 AM 298 If well regulated thete should be none 9/23/2016 9:09 AM 299 Parking concerns, vetting of renters not assured, possible noise violations, pet concerns 9/23/2016 9:02 AM 300 If homeowner is clear w/renters that they need to be respectful of neughbir's privacy, I see no problems 9/23/2016 8:56 AM 301 None. 9/23/2016 8:37 AM 302 Reduction of neighborhood community. Strange people in neighborhood. Lack of city control. Lack of enforcement of health issues. Absentee owner. Animals. Parking. 9/23/2016 8:37 AM 303 No concerns as long as owner rules are in place to prevent issues. 9/23/2016 8:36 AM 304 When the property is rented and a large party shows up to use the home. 9/23/2016 8:31 AM 305 No parties should be allowed and there should be a nightly noise ordinance - maybe no music, noise past 11am that the group would need to agree to while signing their rental contract. 9/23/2016 8:27 AM 306 none, but I think it would be smart to have a contract that states noise ordinances, parking, and party policies. 9/23/2016 8:22 AM 307 You have the possibility of bringing in a certain element of people that may not have the best interest of Stillwater on their mind. 9/23/2016 8:20 AM 308 Increase in tourism would be a good thing for Stillwater 9/23/2016 8:03 AM 309 Noise, parking problems, too many occupants. Insurance of any kind? Am interested in the concept but have not done personally. 9/23/2016 7:41 AM 310 More coming and going, especially with individuals not regularly in the neighborhood. What screening would be done before a rental? What recourse do neighbors have if the outcome of a rental is negative for the neighbors? 9/23/2016 7:39 AM 311 None 9/23/2016 7:32 AM 312 Virtually none. the stays are a day or two usually, and would not compromise the neighborhood. 9/23/2016 6:56 AM 313 Hurting hotels, bring people that don't have any stake in our community into our neighborhoods. 9/23/2016 6:44 AM 314 None 9/23/2016 6:11 AM 315 Concerns regarding illegal activity, criminals using to flee/hide from law enforcement, how eviction would be enforced. 9/23/2016 5:45 AM 316 I know my neighbor did this. It was booked every weekend. We never knew who was going to be next door and that bothered me having small children. There was never really any disturbance, but it felt strange having strangers walking around the neighborhood with a glass of wine in their hand. 9/23/2016 5:13 AM 317 Expectation of proper "vetting" of guests and parking restrictions respected. 9/22/2016 10:33 PM 318 Slightly more traffic on the sidewalks and lesser known parks frequented by residents. 9/22/2016 10:23 PM 10 / 11 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 319 320 noise and parking Parking and noise 9/22/2016 10:09 PM 9/22/2016 9:53 PM 321 There isn't a screening process in place for who would be occupying the short term rental. You have no idea what kind 9/22/2016 9:51 PM of person would be using the space. 322 Unfamiliar individuals in the neighborhood. 323 My expectations would be no different than that of my permanent neighbors. Follow the law and be decent. 324 Lack of oversight, proper protections for guests(liability) 325 None, it is happening already in B&Bs and other homes that do not necessarily follow the rules. 326 None 327 None 328 None with proper management and a clear set of rules enforced by the city. 329 None 330 9/22/2016 9:42 PM 9/22/2016 9:36 PM 9/22/2016 9:12 PM 9/22/2016 8:06 PM 9/22/2016 7:01 PM 9/22/2016 6:34 PM 9/22/2016 6:11 PM Typically these rentals are not unlike B&B's but with a single room. While there may be a few properties with the facilities to rent to larger families or groups I'm not aware of many problems in most smaller cities where these kinds of lodging make up part of the overall city options. 331 Parking, loud parties, and a shortage of rental properties for year round residents. 332 None as long as the owner is easily accessible. 333 That the home be maintained, and well kept. 9/22/2016 5:52 PM 9/22/2016 5:50 PM 9/22/2016 5:41 PM 9/22/2016 5:35 PM 9/22/2016 5:18 PM 334 loud groups disturbing otherwise quiet neighbors and knowing they are only there for one or two days, they have less 9/22/2016 4:54 PM respect for the neighbors. this would be a small group i am sure, but it would be a big problem for a neighbor. 335 Safety concerns with not knowing occupants of neighboring homes, but really it could be argued that you never really know your neighbors and safety is always a concern 9/22/2016 4:50 PM 336 They should be required to have a "certificate" and the approval of neighbors (similar to bee keeping and chickens) 9/22/2016 4:42 PM 337 Stillwater really needs to get with the program, everywhere else in the state allows this. Not sure, what the big deal is. If you want to regulate something, you should be more concerned with long term rentals that are eyesores around the city of Stillwater. Zero upkeep on those, and no one pays any attention to the slum lords running those. 9/22/2016 4:23 PM 9/22/2016 4:22 PM 9/22/2016 4:18 PM 338 Theft, break-ins, etc. 339 Pedophiles, partying. 340 Not doing a proper back ground check 9/22/2016 4:14 PM 341 Disrupting the neighborhood - should be limited to so many days per year. 9/22/2016 4:11 PM 342 hours, safety & health inspections, outdoor partying, parking impacts, noise 9/22/2016 4:05 PM 343 parking 9/22/2016 4:04 PM 344 Noise, extra people around, parking, lower property values 9/22/2016 3:32 PM 345 None I 9/22/2016 3:06 PM Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN iC Please shareany additional thoughts you have related toshort term home rentals. Answered: 250 Skipped: 376 Responses Date 1 It is probably most desired (but not only) for the tourist areas downtown. Workers should not have their housing stock 10/6/2016 12:14 PM eliminated in particular neighborhoods. Some cap, through limited permits or licenses, per community setting should be established. 2 Perhaps the council members need to become familiar with current requirements and restrictions associated with 10/5/2016 10:53 PM current short term lodging (special use permits) and the associated underlying goals and objectives (only some of which I've touched on above) then frame and justify any changes based on changes to, or elimination of, the underlying goals. For instance we won't have to worry about off-street parking, limiting the number of parties/events per year, being owner occupied, being spatially separated limiting signage and etc. if we if we are no longer trying to keep residential neighborhoods "residential". Similarly we won't need to licensee, limit the number of guests/rooms, have two forms of egress from guest rooms, have fire extinguishers, have failsafe safety lighting, or periodic health and safety inspections if we no longer care about providing for the basic safety of overnight guests. I personally don't like some of the current short term lodging regulations and taxes but as a whole they have helped make Stillwater and its lodging world class. I'd hate to see our quality, safety or even our reputation suffer because of a lack of commitment and follow through on the part of the city or short term lodging establishments to these goals. 3 There should be a detailed ordinance in place to provide clear guidance for short term home rentals. 10/5/2016 10:47 PM 4 They are fantastic, especially for families. Please approve and make it easy for home owners to participate. I prefer 10/5/2016 12:36 PM them in every way to a bed and breakfast (I've stayed in both several times) and I think most families would agree with that. 5 Rising crime. See SAVANNAH, GA - very STr friendly now faces high crime rates. 10/3/2016 10:43 AM 6 Out of town families attending family gatherings, such as weddings and famiky reunions have very few options if the 10/2/2016 10:47 PM city will not allow homeowners to rent short term. 7 It would boost the economy. More comfortable places for visitors to stay 9/30/2016 8:27 PM 8 I think there should be full disclosure to neighborhood. With increase crime in our area and strange cars around it is 9/30/2016 6:54 PM hard to know what purpose they have while in neighborhood. Will off street parking be provided? Will home owner guarentee they will be around when renter there? 9 I am concerned that if allowed they will not have to meet the standards that city B and Bs are expected to meet. Will 9/30/2016 6:42 PM city do follow ups. With low staff issues for the city how will follow up be conducted to make sure airbnbs meet conditions set. 10 Most of the neighborhood problems I've encountered have been caused by long term renters with absentee landlords. 9/30/2016 10:25 AM I'd actually prefer "vacationers" to certain neighbors I currently have. 11 In my case, it is only a bedroom and not the entire house. 9/30/2016 10:07 AM 12 I brought people to Stillwater and they have followed my recommendations to eat downtown Stillwater. If you stop 9/30/2016 9:17 AM Airbnb, these people will go to neighboring cities. These young guests love the ease of Airbnb and are looking for basic accommodations. They are not at all regular B &B customers. They are closer to hotel customers. They like the ease of the Airbnb web site and ease of knowing the options and ease of booking. I have booked B&Bs several times and it is hands down more complicated and there is no way a computer savvy young person is going to deal with that when all they want is a bed to sleep in and to enjoy the town. 13 They Short-term VacationRental should be regulated. Property owners are to keep visitors and residents safe and 9/30/2016 8:22 AM paying taxes. 14 If your home is Short -Term vacation rental it should have some rules: 1) Enough parking in the driveway. A fence, no 9/29/2016 10:45 AM large gathering, Save, Lights, Information to contact owner in case of emergency. The city should issue license. License should be control by the city with the current owners to issue additional licenses for new owners ones a year. Safety, noises should be control too. respectfo 15 this might be ok in a commercial district 9/29/2016 10:21 AM 16 I have rented short term home rentals in several cities across the country and appreciate the comfort of a home vs a 9/29/2016 7:43 AM hotel or resort. I highly recommend you allow short term rentals in Stillwater. 1/12 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 17 18 Short-term rentals would only increase business to Stillwater --and increase traffic to downtown businesses as well Who would monitor health & fire codes? Would the homeowner pay sales taxes or city taxes? Taking business from B&B's, Inns, hotels. 19 I've loved the option to rent in other areas. It's a great option for a group of people to create a different feel than a hotel stay. Also, with a home rental it's a way to save some money. 20 21 22 Nice to let people have options rather than just hotels, especially if they want to rent a house for a family visit. Just be fair for the hotels/motels/rental owners. I have been a part of a women's group who rented VRBO. We enjoyed our time immensely, were respectful of the property and plan to return again. In fact we already reserved for 2017 which will be our third year at the same place. Short term rentals should be allowed provided the owners of the property accept the responsibility to maintain the property, accept the responsibility to educate the renters on what is expected of them while renting and establish what the consequences will be financially or otherwise if they do not adhere to the owners requests. 23 should have a level playing field for any and all lodging in terms of regulations, taxes, licensing, fees, inspections and etc. 24 I am pleased witht the possibilty of Airbnb and VRBO in Stillwater. As a frequent traveler, they each have their place for lodging. Hotels, BnB s Airbnb and VRBO each serve a purpose and different needs for different clientele. Once a tax is established, those revenues could come to the city, which in the end would be a good thing, 25 26 Would increase tourism It is nice that a family or friends are able to ask stay in the same place which is comfortable and pleasant. You cannot get that in a hotel Ever! 27 They are tremendous for family gatherings, event's or just enjoying the Stillwater experience. They bring in much needed revenue to the City small business owners as well! 28 It undercuts the b&b business 29 This is the world we live in now. Airbnb is how people travel now. My wife and i have used this service all over the world and have had wonderful experiences. 30 Very difficult to find lodging in the area, good source of income for some. 31 Allow short term rentals, Stillwater is a tourist town, people need places to stay while visiting, it's good for our economy. I tried to rent a short term for my out of town inlaws when visiting last summer, couldn't find anything in the area, ended up putting them up in a hotel in Woodbury for six weeks, pretty sad. 32 If we regulate B&B's and other rental units for safety we need to regulate these. 33 Renter should be required for background checks and additional insurance 34 We have plenty of B&B's, Hotels, etc. to cover demand. Cheapening our quality of life, and turning the house next door into transient housing, damages us all for one person's short term gain. 35 They should not be allowed to host largely attended parties. 36 Allow the service but regulate it. Not allowing homeowners to rent out properties is the government overstepping their bounds; in other words infringing on rights. Regulating is fine to an extent that laws prevent safety, property damage, or other concerns that would affect neighboring residents. Also, Question #2 of this survey could be rewritten. Should the owner be able to live in another legal residency: no. But if the owner temporarily, but out of town long term for business or other reasons, renting should be allowed with the term limits described above. 37 They are great! Stillwater is very, very popular, and what better way to bring in shopping revenue. 38 The city should not be able to tell someone they cannot rent a home they own but should have the authority to shut down / close any "problem" properties where there is a continual nuisance to those around that live in their homes permanently. 3 strikes and you're out? 39 Great alternative to hotels and traditional b and b's. 40 If allowed rules allowing the rentals need to be strictly enforced. Rental license should be revoked for 1 significant violation or for 2 minor violations 41 I have rented from VRBO's many times and truly appreciate the comforts of feeling like you are staying at your own place while sightseeing around town! Furthermore, adults appreciate having their own space and time continuum while on vacation! 9/28/2016 8:30 PM 9/28/2016 7:46 PM 9/28/2016 2:55 PM 9/28/2016 2:41 PM 9/28/2016 2:24 PM 9/28/2016 2:05 PM 9/28/2016 1:47 PM 9/28/2016 12:41 PM 9/28/2016 12:30 PM 9/28/2016 9:36 AM 9/28/2016 8:48 AM 9/27/2016 8:27 PM 9/27/2016 8:10 PM 9/27/2016 7:04 PM 9/27/2016 6:38 PM 9/27/2016 4:47 PM 9/27/2016 4:08 PM 9/27/2016 3:15 PM 9/27/2016 2:34 PM 9/27/2016 2:29 PM 9/27/2016 1:39 PM 9/27/2016 12:49 PM 9/27/2016 12:33 PM 9/27/2016 11:51 AM 9/27/2016 11:11 AM 2/12 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 42 I believe that since the city does collect a tax on property people should be allowed to use their property for income. Stillwater is a tourist town but most of us non- entrepreneurs do not benefit from this. 9/27/2016 10:57 AM 43 It is a great idea to bring guests to the community 9/27/2016 9:51 AM 44 We have so many beautiful B&Bs and the hotel downtown plus a new 40 room hotel coming in -lets let them have the business. If people are wanting to make a buck, they can buy an older smaller home here in town and rent it out to look big term renters the proper way to do things. We get plenty of tourists and I think having to wait until rooms are available is an alright thing -they will still come to town it just makes it that much more desirable of a destination if it's quaint and a solid community 9/27/2016 8:42 AM 45 I think allowing people to rent rooms would encourage property owners to retain the unique and historic nature of the neighborhoods because it would be attractive to renters. I also think that it would lessen the need to build any more big hotels. 9/27/2016 8:40 AM 46 none 9/27/2016 7:32 AM 47 Its a great way to allow more people to experience living in Stillwater 9/27/2016 7:28 AM 48 No 9/27/2016 7:12 AM 49 There is always fear of bad apples but most people follow the rules. 9/27/2016 1:21 AM 50 None 9/26/2016 11:20 PM 51 Should be allowed. 9/26/2016 11:06 PM 52 I think short term home rentals are good for the economy, and oftentimes in my experience offer better lodging options than many area hotels. 9/26/2016 9:20 PM 53 We have rented vacation homes from owners all over the world and find it to be a delightful way to vacation. 9/26/2016 8:53 PM 54 There is a shortage of places to stay in the Stillwater area. I have heard multiple stories of how inconvenient it is for families to stay here for sporting events, weddings and getaways because there is no place to stay, and the rooms that are available are standard, big enough for 4 people tops and are over $250 a night. These people are forced to stay in surrounding cities like Woodbury, taking the business away from our local restaurants and shops because people won't stay here to dine if they have to drive so far. 9/26/2016 8:51 PM 55 Great way to increase commerce to the area for more than just a single day. If in Downtown proper this would be a large advantage compared to other areas. 9/26/2016 8:50 PM 56 It's already happening. Let's get it on record, tax like other business, and keep everyone in the know on what's going on in the neighborhoods 9/26/2016 8:49 PM 57 No additional thoughts 9/26/2016 8:47 PM 58 Stillwater will thrive best by opening up to changing markets and resulting opportunities for our citizens. The downside of lifting the local ban on short-term home rental appears to impact only a few, while the upside of this amendment could benefit many. Please consider the following points: Share the Stillwater Experience. Expanded lodging options may increase the number and types of visitors to Stillwater. Twin Cities' residents looking for a long weekend or 'staycation' near home may find the 'hominess" of a family dwelling very attractive. Some experienced travelers prefer in -home lodging exclusively. The rate at local B&Bs --around $200/night--excludes many visitors. The experience at local hotels/motels is pleasant, but unremarkable. The Stillwater Experience, among many other reasons that visitors come to town, is in demand. Stillwater should respond with open arms by eliminating unwarranted restrictions upon lodging options. Share the Stillwater Opportunity. Economic conditions have been hard this decade. Despite reported 'recovery,' many Stillwater residents live paycheck -to -paycheck. Some of our paychecks go to maintaining homes in which we have much pride. Rather than 'average citizens seeking a second job, which many do in fact have, their homes could be a source of additional income. For example, say, a local family desires to take a week's vacation but the budget is tight. The income which they could earn by renting their home while away could pay for much of their vacation. This would be a 'win -win' result for the family and the short-term lodgers. With a 3% sales tax on the transaction, the City certainly would 'win.' Is Stillwater's Restriction Legal? At first blush, the current ban on short-term rentals appears to be a restraint of trade without satisfactory justification. Is it not the City of Stillwater's burden to show that such restriction is necessary for the health, safety and welfare of its citizens? The downside to doing away with this ban is, at best, speculative since it has never been tested locally and national data does not support prohibition. At worst, a few local hospitality enterprises will have to work a bit harder to attract customers in a broader marketplace. That is how the world works. It is not the City's role to protect some interests over others. 9/26/2016 8:45 PM 59 Having a home in a neighborhood that is only for weekend type rentals changes the characteristic of that neighborhood. Not worth the risk 9/26/2016 8:42 PM 60 People who rent short term have no connection or stake in the neighborhood. Are not caring to the surroundings of the city residents. 9/26/2016 8:33 PM 3/12 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 61 It's already happening now, people should have to register with the city, pay additional tax. 9/26/2016 8:19 PM 62 This really shouldn't go through and the city code is fine, besides there are plenty of B&Bs that fill the market need. 9/26/2016 8:10 PM 63 Concerns that it would unfairly compete with hotel/ motel industry. 9/26/2016 7:09 PM 64 I prefer to not stay in a B&B when traveling when hotels are not near enough to where I will spend most of my time. So, if the only other option is a short term rental, which I have done many times when traveling, that would be my preferred option. Short term and B&B's are not the same to me. 9/26/2016 6:50 PM 65 People who want to rent "a house" is a completely different customer than those who stay in a hotel or BnB. 9/26/2016 6:21 PM 66 I do not think you should regulating this at all. 9/26/2016 5:46 PM 67 I personally love staying at B & B's. Short term rentals in a home/condo offer a different experience than hotels. Ideal for families 9/26/2016 5:43 PM 68 Stillwater has no modern, elegant short term housing. It's bed and breakfast, neglected downtown or reproduction "antique" (wallpaper to look like velvet curtains?I?) hotels, or discount hotels. We need better. If we can't get aLoft, W, or a Kimpton property (they would be perfect to make the decrepit Water Steet Inn something locals would patronize), then we need private homes. 9/26/2016 3:52 PM 69 None 9/26/2016 2:53 PM 70 None 9/26/2016 2:31 PM 71 People should be able to do as they wish with their properties. 9/26/2016 1:19 PM 72 I think short term home rental should only be allowed at a main home where the owner lives in. (they can be gone during rental) 9/26/2016 1:15 PM 73 We own a short term rental in downtown Stillwater. We know for a fact that our short term rental is helping the Stillwater economy. We offer suggestions and coupons to many of the local businesses in downtown Stillwater. Stillwater needs all the help it can get to stimulate their economy and short term rentals is aiding in that cause. We host families that are coming to town for weddings, family reunions, class reunions. We host friends and families that simply want to get away and enjoy all that Stillwater has to offer. We've been told that they would not have considered Stillwater as a destination were it not for our short term rental. The hotel situation in Stillwater is average at best and not cheap. Short term rentals is a great option for visitors that want to be together and spend their hard earned dollars in our wonderful town. 9/26/2016 12:00 PM 74 I think people should be free to rent out their homes on Airbnb, etc. without regulation. Where I have stayed in these properties, everything has gone just fine. If systemic problems arise in Stillwater, then regulate. Also, I think the lodging tax should be suspended for a couple years. It is already running a high surplus and the money is being spent outside of the intent of the ordinance (in my opinion). I think a general downtown sales tax is a fairer, better way to collect taxes to promote Stillwater. For example, a visitor may spend as much (or more) on drinks and dinner as they do on their lodging. 9/26/2016 10:52 AM 75 I like the idea, but we have too many junk houses and hoarder homes as is. Before loosening the rules on rentals, lets tighten -up the rules on taking care of your property first. 9/26/2016 10:24 AM 76 As the birthplace of Minnesota, near the river, and several historical and tourist attractions, if an individual lives in a place where an outside party wants to compensate that homeowner to rent out their dwelling short term, we should encourage and allow that. 9/26/2016 1022 AM 77 I have stayed at several AirBNB and on every occasion the experience has enhanced my enjoyment of the area. I see this as a plus for the city as the city becomes less traffic congested. 9/26/2016 9:42 AM 78 Short-term rentals can be a boom for a city when regulated fairly. 9/26/2016 9:40 AM 79 Any additional visitors to Stillwater is a plus for the local economy. 9/26/2016 9:37 AM 80 My experiences with short term rentals such as Home Away and AirBnB have been positive. 9/26/2016 8:54 AM 4/12 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 81 Have you done any studies on the amount of additional police men/women will have to be hired to accommodate short term rentals? How will you accommodate the people living next door to the flop houses who have to endure the agony of dealing with drunken revelers? Additional police staff will be required on weekends, but probably not so much during the rest of the week. A lot of us work long hours during the weekdays to pay for our expensive Stillwater homes and we want quiet rest on weekends, so we can build up our strength for the following work week. If I can't have quiet rest on weekends, how will I handle working long days? If the house next door to me becomes a FLOP HOUSE, this will reduce the value of my own house and make it harder to sell it. I put an awful lot of money into my home to improve its value. Where will the over night renters park? Will they be parking on the street? How will this work in winter when there is odd even parking? What happens if the drunks park in my driveway? Are the police ready to deal with this? Will additional police be needed to monitor parking? What will happen if year round residents have to park on the street and now will have to compete for parking with the FLOP HOUSE residents? How will you handle this? Are you ready to deal with all the complaints over this? Will this policy begin to divert the most drunken and wild revelers to Stillwater, given that they know they won't be able to get away with lewdness and roudiness in any other city in the metro area? Will Stillwater become a mecca for drunken debachery? If the house next door to me becomes a FLOP HOUSE, this will probably result in my insurance rates increasing, since I live in a neighborhood where the houses are only about 7 feet apart? 9/26/2016 8:50 AM 82 Don't allow it. 9/25/2016 8:59 PM 83 Airbnb is awesome ! 9/25/2016 8:48 PM 84 They are different customers than those who would go to a typical bed and breakfast. Many people (often younger) look for housing exclusively on Air BnB and without having Stillwater available, we lose out on our tourism. Tourism helps our downtown businesses thrive. Why would you actively try to turn people away from Stillwater? 9/25/2016 7:29 PM 85 Short term home rentals may attract party animals that go to the bars downtown. The less drunks on the street the better. 9/25/2016 7:11 PM 86 Why is this even an issue? 9/25/2016 4:41 PM 87 None 9/25/2016 4:03 PM 88 Get with the times Stillwater. Not enough options for staying in the downtown area (especially for those with kids or a budget) and staying at someone's home or rental property can be a fantastic experience. 9/25/2016 2:58 PM 89 Like mentioned above - short term rentals bring people got a city that are there for a getaway/vacation/ in town for an event. People explore the city that they are staying in such as historic downtown Stillwater, it brings people to eat at the restaurants and visit local shops which helps them! 9/25/2016 1:47 PM 90 While I support efforts to increase tourist activity, this type of short term rental can change the nature of a neighborhood, not necessarily for the better of the residents. With established hotels and B&Bs, there are regulations which provide clear methods of oversight to protect the rights of neighbors and the community at large; that sort of checks and balances are very difficult to apply to short term rentals. Also, this type of under regulated rental activity is unfair competition to the established lodging businesses that pay taxes and fees as well as employ many people; online short term rentals employ few, if any local residents. 9/25/2016 10:50 AM 91 Need to also apply lodging tax to the fees charged by homeaway and Airbnb that are indeed part of the rental 9/25/2016 9:33 AM 92 If this is allowed without any regulation I could homeowners improving their property to attract renters. This could increase their value and property taxes. 9/25/2016 9:15 AM 93 I think its a great idea, and would welcome it in my neighborhood. It would bring in more tourists looking for a unique experience, which is always nice! 9/25/2016 9:05 AM 94 This is a great opportunity for people to make some extra money on the side without disrupting the charm of Stillwater. 9/25/2016 8:59 AM 95 there are B and Bs 9/25/2016 7:32 AM 96 We already loose quality of life as citizens due to the city council and mayor giving all money and focus to tourism -we would like to preserve the one thing we have our home/neighborhood please do not bring tourism into our blocks. 9/25/2016 7:30 AM 97 Do not allow it. Start enforcing the city code. 9/25/2016 7:27 AM 98 We love renting on sites like these as usually we have a group where we like to all be together instead of in separate rooms. We always enjoy going into downtown areas as a group for dining and entertainment. 9/25/2016 7:03 AM 99 I believe homeowners should have the right to do what they wish with their property, but they need to screen guests and set up expectations for food behavior 9/25/2016 5:17 AM 100 Good to have options for people wanting to visit the area. Our B&Bs seem to work, not much difference with vacation rentals. 9/25/2016 4:52 AM 5/12 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 101 Keep our neighborhoods for the residential, not commercial areas. Homes are to live in and raise a family, not rent out for profit. 9/24/2016 10:53 PM 102 I don't think the owner should have to be there, but a requirement the house be principally used by the owner as a residence would be ok with me. 9/24/2016 10:42 PM 103 Thank you for making this survey and asking the citizens what we want - very much appreciated! 9/24/2016 10:33 PM 104 Could help fill a gap needed filling 9/24/2016 9:47 PM 105 If the City Council votes to bar these, then they also need to step up to the plate and make sure there are adequate enforcement mechanisms. 9/24/2016 9:45 PM 106 I find it interesting that the city is concerned about short-term rentals, when there are virtually NO regulations regarding Tong -term rentals! It makes no sense!!! 9/24/2016 9:36 PM 107 Good way to supplement your income 9/24/2016 9:31 PM 108 Tourism is great for our city. The homeowner should have the perogative to do what he wishes with the home. 9/24/2016 9:25 PM 109 We have a short term rental house across the street from us and have never had any problems. Guests have always been quiet, courteous, and friendly. 9/24/2016 8:55 PM 110 Having alternative historical places for people to stay and enjoy Stillwater make it more attractive to people visiting the area! It's the homeowners choice to rent out there home, if they want other people to enjoy the pride and joy they have in their house and town then they should have the right to do so! People come to stillwater to see the history, why not let them live in a piece of history if they want! I live on main st and I wouldn't want to stay in any one of the musty old hotels. The bed and breakfast places around town are booked more then the hotels! If you want to keep being a destination town you better make it inviting!! People have money, money keeps the shops open that people come to visit, shops keep the city occupied that keep the economy going! If you don't have people visiting and staying you aren't going to be one of the best towns to visit in the fall or anytime! It's not rocket science... 9/24/2016 8:27 PM 111 I believe property owners should be allowed to make decisions about the property they own. 9/24/2016 6:49 PM 112 it is completely unfair to charge a 3% lodging tax and to have regulations for B&Bs, and hotels, and not for short term rentals. 9/24/2016 6:38 PM 113 I think its a great idea. It gets people to the area in a way that enables them to live like a local, to experience what makes people want to live here. 9/24/2016 6:26 PM 114 They should be limited in the number of times per year that they rent out their property. Perhaps 4-6 weeks per year. 9/24/2016 6:25 PM 115 I think it is a great way for home owners to share their love of Stillwater with others. There are not enough affordable options close to downtown. It would open up new vacation rental options. 9/24/2016 6:09 PM 116 We already have plenty of bed and breakfast places. We don't need Air BNB 9/24/2016 5:50 PM 117 Stillwater is an event destination. We should get with the times. Air b&b carefully selects renters and reaches out to people who are respectul of the space 9/24/2016 5:34 PM 118 None 9/24/2016 5:14 PM 119 They should get a license and that license should be able to be revoked if multiple issues arise within a given time or if they are not current on taxes. 9/24/2016 5:13 PM 120 It's a great option. 9/24/2016 5:06 PM 121 Our beautiful town draws lots of visitors. Residents should be able to rent their homes if they choose. We use VRBO when we travel and love the opportunity to stay within those communities. 9/24/2016 4:26 PM 122 People can do what they want with their owned homes. 9/24/2016 4:13 PM 123 Great idea and I fully support. 9/24/2016 4:04 PM 124 Regardless of the short term rental decision the city needs to start enforcing ordinances on regular rentals. Many of them are a blemishes on our community and dangerous to renters. 9/24/2016 3:58 PM 6/12 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 125 Our city should be more welcoming to this worldwide travel trend. We've stayed in VRBO properties across the globe and always had good experiences. In a Community where we want to attract visitors, it seem rediculous to ban VRBO. THIS IS EMBARRASSING! I also think this allows people to hold onto a house while they move away temporarily, and helps them move back to the town. Also, we have a huge shortage of hotel space. Our family started planning a wedding in Stillwater a year ago, no rooms available, so our guests are staying in Oakdale. Loss of money spent in Stillwater. People are resistant to big hotel chains and VRBO-they need to consider what business will sustain our well established tourism trade. If VRBO isn't allowed in Stillwater, people will set up VRBOs in Bayport, the townships and Oak Park Heights. 9/24/2016 3:23 PM 126 Every experience of lodging is different home condo lodging is yet another unique experience 9/24/2016 3:16 PM 127 If allowed in residential areas, there should be a permit required, only a certain # allowed, and neighbors must be notified and approve. It affects property value, safety and sell -ability of a home. There should be some sort of policy regarding rentals with consistently "bad renters" if renters at one place are typically out of control, perhaps revoking a permit should be discussed. 9/24/2016 3:14 PM 128 They shouldn't be any different than any other rental or neighbor 9/24/2016 3:06 PM 129 I believe home owners have a right to rent out their homes. They are the ones paying the mortgage and insurance on their homes, not the city. 9/24/2016 2:55 PM 130 We organized a neighborhood group to oppose this unregulated form of short-term rentals. The city laid out the terms and conditions under which the first of these houses could be operated as a bed and breakfast, but the city's guidelines were ignored by the owner, who proceeded to buy 2 more houses to be operated in the same manner. We complained to the city attorney who said, "there's nothing we can do" 9/24/2016 2:55 PM 131 I think as a tourist destination it makes sense for us to invite all types to visit. Not all can afford the b&b route but want more than just a hotel. 9/24/2016 2:47 PM 132 Plenty of customers to enjoy all these choices 9/24/2016 2:07 PM 133 I have used this service multiple times while vacationing in the US and in Europe. I see absolutely no issues in opening the city to this type of lodging. People should have the right to let others stay in their home, paid or unpaid. 9/24/2016 1:58 PM 134 3 homes in our neighborhood are currently being used for this purpose. We have no idea who is inhabiting these homes from one day to the next. They may be vacant for long periods of time, making our neighbirhood into a kind of wasteland. 9/24/2016 1:58 PM 135 I think it would help some home owners in the downtown area and increase tourism. 9/24/2016 1:43 PM 136 City officials seem to think that they have the right to determine how others should use their own personal property. People can handle their own property themselves. 9/24/2016 1:42 PM 137 Stay in a hotel if this is what you're looking for. Or a Bed and Breakfast. 9/24/2016 1:35 PM 138 I meant to type no taxes and I couldn't go back. Let the tourism begin! 9/24/2016 1:04 PM 139 Come into the 21 st-century! I think Airbnb or short-term rentals is a great idea. It will allow for increased activity and tourism in our community. It also positions Stillwater as a city that pays attention to opportunities and looks for innovative and trending ways to bring in more traffic and business. 9/24/2016 12:55 PM 140 I worked at and managed a local bed and breakfast for nine years. I have always welcome new and innovative ways to welcome people into our community. There is room for everyone and every business or home has something different to offer. 9/24/2016 12:50 PM 141 I think short term rentals will increase the number of visitors modestly, but will make Stillwater look progressive about this issue 9/24/2016 12:46 PM 142 Taxing and regulating something for the sake of it is not good policy. This system is not broken, please don't insert government in an attempt to get your bite of the apple. 9/24/2016 12:11 PM 143 Most cities allow short term rentals , I just used Airbnb in Boston as it was cheaper than a hotel and helpful when you have a family and need a kitchen. They had an on call property manager that responses 24 hours a day with strict rules and a background check 9/24/2016 12:06 PM 144 Should get neighbors consent first if allowed. 9/24/2016 12:03 PM 145 Owners should have the right to do what they wish with their home. Circumstances arise that may make it necessary to rent the home for a short period of time to prevent a financial hardship for the owner. It is the owners home. 9/24/2016 11:55 AM 146 Stillwater has lots of b&b, hotel etc. I don't need my goofy neighbor trying to profit from renting to a presumably great group that turns out to be a nightmare. I like my "quiet" hood. 9/24/2016 11:50 AM 7/12 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 147 9/24/2016 11:39 AM 148 We stay in these type of rentals all over the world. They're great and increase local commerce/sales 9/24/2016 11:38 AM 149 This is INCOME for people, and should not pay any "lodging tax" as they pay income tax on earnings. 9/24/2016 11:27 AM 150 I grew up in Stillwater, and now that I've moved away, I would LOVE another option for lodging when visiting! My wife and I plan on moving back within the next 10 years, and I don't foresee myself having any objections to allowing Airbnb's and the like, now or in the future. 9/24/2016 11:23 AM 151 With these types of lodging options, there is less respect for other residents, especially with the peace and tranquility of the neighborhood as we currently know it. Rentors are on vacation, residents are not. 9/24/2016 11:23 AM 152 Disrespectful renters, but you can't create laws to stop that. 9/24/2016 11:21 AM 153 It hasn't worked well in other areas. 9/24/2016 11:17 AM 154 None 9/24/2016 11:05 AM 155 Government should stay out of people business and the home the own. 9/24/2016 11:02 AM 156 There needs to be health codes and fire codes regulations. What is this going to do to the bed and breakfast businesses. 9/24/2016 10:59 AM 157 I use them when I travel and it give a great authentic experience for a vacationer. It would be great for the boat club to pair up with these people to make it even better for people to engage in the area....also - brings more uber business too. (which is beneficial also - safe and provides income for locals looking for a little more spending dough) 9/24/2016 10:56 AM 158 I think owner occupied should be treated differently from investment full time rental properties 9/24/2016 10:51 AM 159 I Think most neighbors would not like to live next to a short term rental properties 9/24/2016 10:42 AM 160 Rental housing is good for a progressive community. Especially with the bridge closing, we need to encourage outside public to come to Stillwater for the downtown businesses. Stillwater is a destination community and we need to embrace that! 9/24/2016 10:25 AM 161 It would bring add'I money and opportunity to the area. Not just the homeowners. 9/24/2016 9:20 AM 162 This is a beautiful town, we should encourage visitors! The current lodging options are either very expensive, or our side of the downtown destination area. Another option for visitors should be encouraged. Thank you for the opportunity to give input. 9/24/2016 9:11 AM 163 People should be able to do whatever they want with there home 9/24/2016 8:55 AM 164 I think they are a positive addition to the city that provide options that will draw more people. 9/24/2016 8:37 AM 165 I have used them in other cities and I do feel it help the economy of the town I stayed in ...it has a local feel to it and you shop in stores close by . 9/24/2016 8:04 AM 166 Short term rentals, also known as Air BnB's should be required to follow all the rules imposed on local Bed and Breakfasts. There should not be allowed to exist any closer than the current standards for bed and breakfasts and they should have limits on the number of rooms, length of stay, number of people allowed on the property for parties, limits to the number of events they can host each month, etc. 9/24/2016 7:54 AM 167 Brings money and potential home purchase in our beautiful city. 9/24/2016 7:36 AM 168 This could have a significant impact on the cohesiveness of a neighborhood. If several homeowners in a neighborhood begin a VRBO or airBnB, the neighborhood suddenly has short-term unknown temporary residents who are paying to stay in the neighborhood. In addition, the whole concept does not seem just for the established B&B's, who have to maintain whatever standards, etc. are required of a commercial undertaking, as well as the inspections, etc. that they must pass. Seems like unfair competition. 9/23/2016 11:46 PM 169 Given the great Stillwater location, people will want to visit and will explore are options, some are know now, some will be created in the future. This is very tough to regulate, but a broad framework that allow residents to provide short term rentals with clear governance requirements is key, 9/23/2016 11:45 PM 170 Insurance, code issues, safety , will they need to be licensed, you have rules about the distance between B& B's what about homes condos etc. 9/23/2016 8:15 PM 171 There should be limits to the number of people who could be in a home. 9/23/2016 7:28 PM 172 Damage to property values. 9/23/2016 7:10 PM 173 Don't have them 9/23/2016 6:23 PM 8/12 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 174 There should be licensing required and inspections. Requirements for rental properties should apply for safety reasons -such as working smoke detectors etc 9/23/2016 6:15 PM 175 We don't allow it in our condo as its hard enough to get owners involved in taking care of building and will be that much harder when they don't live in the building. 9/23/2016 4:41 PM 176 Stillwater needs more lodging facilities within walking distance of Main Street. I have stayed in many Air BNB's and they are such of a wonderful option for travelers. 9/23/2016 4:14 PM 177 It is a great way to let people enjoy our beautiful town and spend money at the local establishments. Which in tum keeps our economy strong. 9/23/2016 4:13 PM 178 The current city code in this regard should not be changed. 9/23/2016 3:53 PM 179 Also, you put a restriction on the number of guests staying, example if you have 3 bedrooms only 6 guests are allowed to stay in home, and this prevents parties, gatherings etc. 9/23/2016 3:20 PM 180 Just another way to bring people into the community.... 9/23/2016 2:33 PM 181 We are baby boomers and use Air B&B when we travel. I think this would be a plus for Stillwater. 9/23/2016 2:33 PM 182 They are a fantastic option to a hotel for families & girl or guy getaways. You can cook together, hang out in the yard together & experience more of what Stillwater is really like. 9/23/2016 2:15 PM 183 The city should not even be able to tell me if I can rent a room or not. 9/23/2016 1:33 PM 184 Short term home rentals are world wide and in high demand amongst the tourist industry. In a community, such as Stillwater, I would think it would be a welcome to have additional lodging to bring further income into all areas of Tourism. It's a no brainer. 9/23/2016 1:20 PM 185 Home depreciation if not well cared for. 9/23/2016 1:07 PM 186 As a Stillwater native now living elsewhere, I would find these rentals very helpful so that I would not have to impose on my family who all live in Stillwater....assuming, of course, that the monthly rental fees would be Tess than staying in a hotel. 9/23/2016 12:41 PM 187 there is a need in Stillwater for this kind of lodging 9/23/2016 12:37 PM 188 I would like to see them licensed and inspected just as other hotels and b&b's are licensed by the city and inspected by the Fire Marshall, County Health Inspector, etc. and follow all rules applied to other lodging establishments. 9/23/2016 12:20 PM 189 I can't believe that this has become such a huge issue as to require this much time (surveys, meetings, etc) invested and making MORE LAWS and then having to hire MORE EMPLOYEES to monitor and maintain the situation. How many 'residences' are coming into question that it demands this much attention?! 9/23/2016 11:50 AM 190 Brings in revenue to all the local businesses restaurants, etc. Its a good thing! 9/23/2016 11:47 AM 191 When we hosted our wedding in Stillwater, it was impossible for guests to find a place to stay without using VRBO options 9/23/2016 11:25 AM 192 the potential for an owner to turn their house into rental property under the guise of AirBNB - absentee landlords are usually not good for a neighborhood. reduced values/property issues etc. 9/23/2016 11:12 AM 193 Its their property they shouldn't be regulated or restricted as to who they should allow to use it 9/23/2016 10:37 AM 194 As long as the property is up to code and all regulations are followed I am an advocate for this 9/23/2016 10:28 AM 195 I am not against them but think they need to have stricter regulations. When buying a house you have the knowledge of moving to an area where there are hotels, B&Bs, etc. but with AirB&B they can pop up at anytime without the neighborhood's knowledge. They also should be subjected to the same taxes and regulations as all hotels and B&Bs. 9/23/2016 10:24 AM 196 We own a large historic home. I would like the opportunity to rent it on a weekend or weekly basis while we are away traveling. It would still be our primary residence. 9/23/2016 10:16 AM 197 Our family has used short-term rentals as we travel, for a number of years. It provides a great way to discover the best local establishments, and has allowed us to experience our destination in a very unique and authentic way. Stillwater would do well to allow our visitors to experience our city in this special way. 9/23/2016 10:15 AM 198 none 9/23/2016 10:07 AM 199 Its their property let them do what they want 9/23/2016 10:05 AM 200 We have rented Vrbos and it's been amazing. You have a better time and can relax more than a motel or hotel. I would totally do it again too. Let them do it. It will bring business to the businesses in Stillwater too. 9/23/2016 9:59 AM 9/12 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 201 In the new Stillwater with the bridge being closed encouraging people to come and stay in our city and continue the great trend of downtown revitalization is a key element to that. Especially as we try to get the largest age demographic millennial to our city. 202 203 204 We use air bnb all the time and it works fine for both renter and owner. No problems experienced Stillwater needs more lodging spaces, especially during high -peak periods, summer week -ends. I have stayed in many and it's great to get a feel for the city you are staying in. Staying in a neighborhood vs a hotel is more quiet, relaxing and gives you the opportunity to be with family and friends in more of a home atmosphere. 205 Its odd to me that you have not known people have been doing these FOREVER! 206 Considering what is going on in our state and country today I just. don't think it is a good idea. 207 there is a severe lack of lodging space within walking distance from downtown. Short term rentals are key to relieving the pressure and increase competition. 208 Stillwater is growing. Anyone who can't see that is actively ignoring it. Lodging is scarce and this is a great way to increase lodging without negatively impacting parking, and at no additional cost to the city. It can generate income (3% tax) for the city and bring more tourism. 209 A short term rental potentially brings more revenue to the city and allows competition in lodging prices. Any property owner should be able to rent or lease their property without time restriction. 210 They offer more choice for the traveler & should be allowed 211 Time for Stillwater to enter the modern world. I've stayed in many Airbnbs worldwide over the last several years with zero problems. And I feel this way as the former chair of the HPC. 212 Owners claim one thing do another with no enforcement. In private neighborhood, it only takes one bad renter. Snow season, who is going to clean and maintain are? 213 I think all short term rentals should be subject to the same rules and regulations that other lodging properties are subject to. Including health codes, food prep, parking, fire, etc. They should have to go before the appropriate boards and the City Council for approval and be held to the standards other lodging properties are held to. 214 I have managed vacation rentals out of the country for several years. I have found that an ID of every individual needs to be taken, plus criminal background check run. 215 We traveled internationally and love the airb&b concept. It allows our whole family to comfortably stay together, where hotels crowd us in one room and take away a little of the enjoyment of the experience. Stillwater's downtown hotels need updating. They have very little competition and it's time they step up their game and represent our city in a pristine top-notch way. I've heard horror stories of the hotel room conditions. 216 The owner of the home who is renting it out for a short period of time will likely not do much of a backround check on the possible renters. 217 Definition of short term are we talking a maximum time limit on rentals? Who regulates this? 218 I think a residential neighborhood zoned as such should remain just that. I believe that the city regulates B & B density in the city, and that should be the very least that is done with AirBnB, keeping in mind that individuals are not business owners with the expertise to monitor their own home or property as do B & B owners. I think this would generally open a pandora's box, good for some, intrusive for others. 219 Hotels have to jump through hoops. If short term should have to go through all the stuff bed and breakfasts and hotels go through to allow them. 220 The B&B ordinance was written so as to give the original properties an unfair advantage by setting unrealistic requirements requiring a minimum distance apart from one an other. 221 It is an asset to the growth of the city. 222 I can understand the need due to the high tourist activity in summer, but am concerned o f the impact on neighborhoods 223 I think it would greatly hurt the B&B business. 224 I think it should be up to a home owners discretion if they want to rent out their home. I think that tourists bring a lot of business to Stillwater, so why not create another avenue for that! 225 Expectation of proper "vetting" of guests and parking restrictions respected. I don't believe that hotels/motels/B&B's should have a monopoly on short-term stays. There is frequently a shortage of accommodations and a need for more. 9/23/2016 9:58 AM 9/23/2016 9:55 AM 9/23/2016 9:52 AM 9/23/2016 9:52 AM 9/23/2016 9:42 AM 9/23/2016 9:40 AM 9/23/2016 9:35 AM 9/23/2016 9:28 AM 9/23/2016 9:02 AM 9/23/2016 8:56 AM 9/23/2016 8:37 AM 9/23/2016 8:37 AM 9/23/2016 8:31 AM 9/23/2016 8:27 AM 9/23/2016 8:22 AM 9/23/2016 8:20 AM 9/23/2016 7:41 AM 9/23/2016 7:39 AM 9/23/2016 7:33 AM 9/23/2016 7:32 AM 9/23/2016 6:11 AM 9/23/2016 5:45 AM 9/23/2016 5:13 AM 9/22/2016 11:26 PM 9/22/2016 10:33 PM 10 / 12 Short Tenn Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 226 I think it would be a boon to local businesses, allows the city to collect higher property taxes, and allows homeowners another potential stream of income. Win/win/win. Bring more dollars to Stillwater. 9/22/2016 10:23 PM 227 noise and parking 9/22/2016 10:09 PM 228 Safety concems 9/22/2016 9:53 PM 229 I've lived in Stillwater 4 years and still rent. My husband and I hope to buy soon, but I already feel there are too many rental properties in the city which bring down the quality of certain neighborhoods. Short term rentals would be another money making opportunity and would take even more of the homes for sale from people who want to put down roots in the community in addition to my original concern about who could rent these properties out. 9/22/2016 9:51 PM 230 I can't even imagine an argument against these sorts of short-term rentals that I would find compelling. Arguments from B&B owners and others are not compelling. 9/22/2016 9:36 PM 231 Most undertaking this type of activity will not be aware of proper insurance protection/exclusions 9/22/2016 9:12 PM 232 When my family travels out of town, we always use VRBO. Renting a home saves us money for every vacation. If I weren't from Stillwater, I would for sure look on VRBO before looking for hotels. 9/22/2016 8:34 PM 233 We have usee them across the world and regulated properly actually enhance the neighborhoods they are in. 9/22/2016 8:06 PM 234 Great source of income to the downtown area. Everyone wins, restaurants, shopping. Brings in a lot of revenue 9/22/2016 7:01 PM 235 I can't believe we are even asking people about this. Let people do whatever they want with their houses. 9/22/2016 6:34 PM 236 I have used VRBO many times and always seek it out as an option. I am downtown business owner and field complaints about the lack of Stillwater lodging constantly. This seems like a no brainer. 9/22/2016 6:11 PM 237 When I travel with my extended family we can reach up to 15 people. I places where we are allowed to rent an entire large home, we much prefer to cook, clean and come and go as we like. We spend money on food & beverage, entertainment, shopping and in many cases transportation. This kind of option is a much better fit for our particular group - and while we may have 2-3 vehicles parked for a week or two, overall we do not change or disrupt the fabric of any given neighborhood. I see this as much needed in our growing city where lodging can be difficult for special events such as weddings, larger meetings and reunions. We need to fiture out some way for this to be an option with the proper parameters put in place; not a flat refusal to entertain such an option. 9/22/2016 5:50 PM 238 The short term rentals are currently not inspected by the fire marshal or the health department. If they are allowed to operate, they should do so under the same laws as any other Stillwater accommodation. 9/22/2016 5:41 PM 239 I support them. 9/22/2016 5:35 PM 240 I actually own a VRBO in Stillwater. It's zoned for short term, one of the only. I also own a business in down town, The rental brings so much business to the downtown area. It's mostly ladies weekends and family's staying for weddings. The wedding and event business is booming and really helping business in the downtown area. It has seen a big spike of growth in the past 3 years, especially with the opening of the loft and JX studios. With growth comes need for change, and this is a change stillwater needs desperately. For the love of the local businesses, we need the short term rentals allowed. It's such a beautiful town it should be shared and there should be more options for over night accommodations. Our renters have all been very respectful and clean, I've had no issues with any. The main reason VRBO's are becoming so popular I believe is people in this generation hardly get to see friends and family, and when getting together they all want to be in the same space. A hotel room or bed and breakfast separates the group. I really think short term rentals should be limited to walking distance from downtown. This is where all the events take place and it keeps people close, brings business to the local establishments, and restaurants. It also would keep the roads safer, less driving out to 36. For example Croixwood wouldn't really be a place I'd see a short term rental really making sense. 9/22/2016 5:18 PM 241 i think the CUP might be a good option. you can do it, but it is on an annual renewal, and a "small fee" less than $100 for the annual permit. then if there are problem operators, they do not get renewed. 9/22/2016 4:54 PM 242 May bring in more business to the downtown area 9/22/2016 4:50 PM 243 There is a shortage of lodging in Stillwater, and this is a trend that is not going away. But it should be regulated just like other lodging businesses are. 9/22/2016 4:42 PM 244 I am always hearing of people wanting lodging in stillwater but its always booked up so they end up staying elsewhere and the city looses out on the revenue of the people being forced to stay in Hudson, oakdale, Woodbury, etc 9/22/2016 4:30 PM 245 There is also zero places for people to stay in Stillwater, besides the crummy hotels that are far from downtown. If you don't want to allow these short-term rentals, than I highly suggest putting in some hotels down by the river. Renovate some of the historic buildings that have turned into decrepit ghost towns. Take for example, Lift Bridge Lofts is the NICEST place to stay, unfortunately it is always booked since THAT is pretty much the only place to stay. Which is incredible, since this is a tourist town. Come on Stillwater, its time to grow up. 9/22/2016 4:23 PM 11 / 12 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN 246 Short term renters should need a background check or permit to engage in short term rentals where the owner is 9/22/2016 4:22 PM living elsewhere. 247 Too many people will start doing it. 9/22/2016 4:14 PM 248 There should be strict regulations in place to make this work, but stays like these are vital for downtown businesses. 9/22/2016 4:11 PM There is a lack of lodging in downtown Stillwater and this is a great alternative. 249 The houses need to be up to code 9/22/2016 3:32 PM 250 None 9/22/2016 3:06 PM 12 / 12 Short Term Home Rental - Stillwater, MN Answer Choices I live in an historic... I have rented out my home... lam interested i... I own a bed & breakfast I have stayed in a bed &... I have stayed in a short t... I have a vacation... I have a vacation... Please select any responses below that describe you (note - all responses are anonymous): Answered: 495 Skipped: 131 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% I live in an historic neighborhood in Stillwater I have rented out my home (house, condominium, or room) as a short term rental in the past Responses 38.18% 189 7.88% 39 I am interested in renting out my home as a short term rental in the future 16.36% 81 own a bed & breakfast have stayed in a bed & breakfastwhen travelling in another city 1.01% 5 52.53% 260 have stayed in a short term home rental when travelling in another city 70.10% 347 have a vacation home/cabin that I have rented out as a short term rental in the past have a vacation home/cabin that I am interested in renting out as a short term rental in the future Total Respondents: 495 12.12% 60 7.07% 35 8/8 0 tober 10, 2016 — Short Term Va ation Rental: Stakeholder's Input Session Qu stions Comm nts For ommunities who already li ense/regulate, are there differen es between rentals less than two weeks and those that are greater than two weeks (given that federal tax regulations don't apply less than two weeks in a given year)? Paying lodging tax does not seem that ompli ated and (general onsensus) is that the tax should be paid. What about the ounty and how do their inspe tions relate to these types of uses? How does this impa t other City of Stillwater (COS) regulations? VRBO business model is simplified if property rented less than 14 days in a year, sin e federal in ome tax is not required for that limited period of time. Is the use ommer ial or residential? Is the zoning ommer ial or residential? Is the tax rate/status ommer ial or residential? Good to look at from the perspe tive of guest safety (water temperature, fire extinguishers or sprinklering system, two means of egress, home meets all building and fire odes, et .). This has to be a part of any regulations for this type of use. Che klist should be developed and required to be met as part of permit pro ess. How will this refle t upon the ommunity? There is a differen e between B&Bs and other types of short term va ation rentals, but there is ross-over in the ustomers, operations, impa t upon neighborhood, taxes, et . How will the neighborhoods look with hanges of this nature? The thing that is universal is whether or not the lodger has had a bad experien e within the ommunity. Does COS have any idea on the ost of administration of an expanded program? Is there a me hanism for the COS to pay program funds? Would the ost of staff or monitoring programs be paid for? Is there the politi al will to fund a program and to what level? Not every lodger prefers the types of existing lodging establishments within the ommunity. There are those that want to rent an entire house without an owner/manager. There are also those that want to rent a room but not eat breakfast with the other guests. What about zoning/permits for spe ifi areas/neighborhoods and has there been onversation about areas whi h the ommunity would not allow them or that they would not be permitted? Stillwater is an event/wedding destination. How an a 'va ation home' business be a residen e? The County staff is looking at the City of Stillwater's efforts to study and regulate short term va ation rental properties to help inform their de isions on what they would like to do with the industry in the future. What good does a la k of overnight lodging do for the image of the ommunity and the events that the ommunity holds? As a VRBO owner, appre iates all the diversity at the table. As a business owner (other than VRBO), think overnight rentals are a good thing for the ommunity and has been benefi ial to the ommunity and downtown businesses. What will the impa t of another 50-70 unit hotel have on the ommunity? Will hotel investment o ur if there are so many alternative short term lodging options available within the ommunity? Will this affe t ROI on new investment within the ommunity? Is it appropriate to have a zone-spe ifi allowan e? In other words, an the City restri t short term va ation rental properties to a spe ifi zoning distri t? Should a non -a essible utility room be required for monitoring (i.e. water heaters)? As a popular event destination (this is the reason people are oming to the ommunity) there are not that many lodging options for people to stay in downtown. People enjoy walking to downtown. How are the market/ ommunity needs shifting and how is this ordinan e/regulations/et . going to address those hanges? Maybe a different set of rules for ommer ial/downtown areas opposed to residential areas. What are the total number of rooms/units in the other ommunities? Likely need to have these regulations through the zoning ode whi h would allow for limited ommer ial uses in the residentially zoned neighborhoods. Question of what we want the City to look like (opposed to who we are atering to)? Private property owners an be more restri tive than the City's regulations. So, Home Owner's Asso iations an prohibit short term va ation rentals even if the City hooses to allow them. What is the maximum number of rooms in a single VRBO that are allowed in other ommunities? We have one of the largest homes on the VRBO website. Our guests are often families/extended families who want a ommunal va ation experien e. This type of lodging option is not available in the ommunity without the short term va ation rental properties. The VRBO website ompany requires their listed properties to have someone within 25-30 miles of the site at all times there are guests/lodgers onsite. Community is losing wedding events be ause of a la k of lodging within the ommunity. This is a way to maximum ROI on a house. An in ome-generator to allow for new investment into single family residen es. Con erns in lude: size of groups per size of house, parking, hara ter of residential neighborhoods, and age of lodgers. Con erns and omplaints don't appear to hange over time. Intent to give flexibility to rent a home but have a me hanism in pla e in the event things do not go well. Try to find the happy -medium for everybody (but not likely to be perfe t for any one). Limiting to ation (as in a parti ular zoning distri t, or within a ertain distan e of downtown, or along olle tor streets), and distan e (as in no short term va ation rental ould be loser than 300 or 500 or 900 feet of another or of a B&B), and the potential total number of properties permitted in the City would be a reasonable to start. Dis ussion with individual stakeholders after meeting in luded the following notes: 1. The County onsiders short term va ation rentals to be ommer ial for health inspe tion purposes if the property is not the primary residen e of the property owner. The homestead redit would be lost for State in ome tax purposes if the home were not the primary residen e. (The County may also hange the tax status from residential to ommer ial, though we are not sure of this.) In addition, City building ode and fire ode onsider the property to be ommer ial if it is not a primary residen e. This triggers a number of issues in luding: egress, fire suppression, handi apped a essibility, railings, et . 2. In some tourist destination ommunities (Duluth, many in the mountain states, et ) the total number of permitted short term va ation rentals is apped. Duluth allows only 60. The primary reason for this is that without a limit, the affordable housing sto k is onverted to STVRs and servi e industry employees an no longer find suffi lent housing. Stakeholder's in luded: 1. Several HOA presidents 2. B&B owners 3. Hotel owners' representative 4. Residential property owners that put STVR on hold until study on luded 5. CVB President 6. Planning Commission member 7. Two City Coun it Members 8. Others who have expressed an Interest