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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
December 10, 2012
REGULAR MEETING 7:00 P.M.
Vice-Chairman Kocon called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Vice-Chairman Kocon, Commissioners Hansen, Hade, Kelly, Seiss, Lauer,
Council Representative Menikheim
Absent: Commissioner Buchanan
Staff: City Planner Pogge
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Commissioner Hansen, seconded by Commissioner Hade, to approve the
November 14, 2012 meeting minutes. All in favor.
OPEN FORUM
There were no public comments.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. 2012-34.
A request for a special use permit and a variance to the parking
regulations for an event center located at 214 Main Street South in the CBD, Central
Business District. Judd Sather, applicant. Continued from the November 14, 2012
meeting.
City Planner Pogge explained the request. Judd Sather has recently started using
the second floor of the space he rents at 214 Main Street South as an event center.
This has been done without receiving approvals from the City (fire, building, liquor
control, or planning) or Washington County Public Health. The event center occupies
4,500 square feet and uses the entire second floor for private parties, small
weddings, birthday parties, and concert events with a capacity of 175 to 250 people.
Previously the second floor was used for storage. There is a deficiency of 78 parking
spaces (83 required). All other zoning code requirements are met. Plans still need to
be reviewed by the City Fire Department, Building Department and Washington
County Health Department and proper liquor license permits need to be obtained.
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Proper sound barriers need to be installed, and the shared stairwell with the Mad
Capper needs to only be used as an emergency exit. With these conditions, staff
believes all requirements for a Special Use Permit would be met.
Regarding the parking variance, City Planner Pogge reported that Mr. Sather has
discussed leasing 38 spaces in the adjacent US Bank parking lot. This would leave a
deficiency of 40 parking spaces that could be satisfied by purchasing monthly
parking permits from the City or securing a lease from another private property
owner. Mr. Sather discussed this with the Downtown Parking Commission last
month, which recommended an alternative of initially setting the fee at $120/month
for the deficiency, to be reviewed annually.
Commissioner _______ asked for clarification on parking requirements, licensing
and how this proposal will fit with the new liquor ordinance.
Vice-Chairman Kocon asked how the use will meet ADA requirements with stairways
and no elevator.
City Planner Pogge replied that the applicant will have to meet all ADA
requirements. Fire code requirements will be reviewed by building officials and
usually are achieved by installing steel doors.
Commissioner Kelly suggested the Commission give a little more flexibility in parking
requirements so that if Mr. Sather can’t finalize the parking arrangement with US
Bank, he doesn’t have to come back before the Commission.
City Planner Pogge responded that a sentence could be added requiring that if a
parking space lease is not able to be obtained, the applicant go to the Parking
Commission to renegotiate the parking fee.
Commissioner Seiss asked if there are noise concerns with the proposed use.
City Planner Pogge replied that the applicant will have to follow the noise ordinance
and fire-rate the shared wall.
Vice-Chairman Kocon asked what is the closing time.
City Planner Pogge responded that there is no closing time in downtown Stillwater
but the business will have to comply with the liquor ordinance prohibiting the serving
of liquor after 1 a.m.
Commissioner Seiss asked how the new liquor server training would be enforced if
Mr. Sather uses an outside caterer.
City Planner Pogge said the applicant will be held responsible for providing safe
liquor service, including providing training and passing compliance checks like any
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other liquor license holder. Customers who bring in their own liquor will still have to
have it served to them.
Councilmember Menikheim asked if the same level of security is expected in a
BYOB environment as in other liquor establishments.
City Planner Pogge replied that security expectations of this establishment are the
same as other establishments.
Judd Sather, the applicant, indicated he expects to hold one to two events monthly.
The event center would have no kitchen, so it would primarily use local licensed
caterers for food and drink. He will apply for a public consume and display permit. If
customers want to bring their own keg, it would make him feel better if they also had
security there. He will soundproof the walls and floor, and plans on installing a
wheelchair lift to satisfy the ADA requirements. If things go well he will add an
exterior elevator to the building. He understands caterers providing alcohol would be
using their own liquor license. The whole building is sprinklered for fire.
Asked about the parking agreement, Mr. Sather said he will not be leasing the US
Bank parking spaces, but per the Parking Commission’s recommendation, will
pay$10 for 12 spaces, or $120 per month, which is the maximum of any business
downtown. He said this could be revisited.
City Planner Pogge said he had understood that Mr. Sather would still lease 30
spaces from US Bank and additionally pay the $120 per month for the parking
deficiency.
Mr. Sather said he can easily direct customers to the City parking ramp, but because
the US Bank underground parking area uses an opener, parking there would be
difficult to control.
Commissioner Kelly stated as long as the Downtown Parking Commission is
satisfied with whatever parking arrangement is agreed upon, that can be written into
the approval so the applicant doesn’t have to appear before the Planning
Commission again. He feels the use is appropriate and he is in favor of it.
Commissioner Seiss and Vice-Chair Kocon voiced their support for the proposal.
Motion by Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner Hansen, to approve the
request with conditions A through M, modifying existing condition G to read that if
applicant does not lease 38 parking spaces from US Bank as required in Condition F,
an appropriate fee will be determined by the Parking Commission and he will be
required to pay that in lieu of the $120 that is currently required in Condition G. All in
favor.
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Case No. 2012-36.
Final plat approval for Millbrook 7th Addition located at Outlot B,
Millbrook 5th Addition, for 47 lot and 4 outlots. Joe Jablonski, Lennar Corporation,
applicant.
City Planner Pogge explained this plat represents the last plat of the development.
White Pine Way will be extended east and will connect to Neal Ave. Ricky Lane will
be built on the east side of the development, which will allow the property to the
north and south to have access to White Pine Way if they are developed and
subdivided in the future. Since the utilities that serve Millbrook were extended from
the east, most of the utilities that will serve this development are in place. Any
remaining public utilities that have yet to be installed will be done by the developer
as part of the site improvements.
Tim Fohr, 3225 Maureen Lane, representing Lennar, offered to answer any
questions.
Jon Whitcomb, 8528 Neal Avenue North and 8602 Neal Avenue, directly to the
south of White Pine Way, requested that Ricky Lane be named something more
appropriate, for instance White Pine Court, and that the north-south streets be
graded and completed as shown on the plan. He stated the amount of traffic coming
to Neal Avenue after this road is completed will increase significantly. Neal Avenue
is inadequate as a north-south connector. The City should design and approve a trail
link to be built as funds become available.
City Planner Pogge responded that Lennar has agreed to extend Neal Avenue 150
feet to its northern boundary. Over the long term, the road will need to be improved.
He added that the Commission may require a name change as long as it doesn’t
duplicate an existing street name in the City. The Neal Avenue trail is planned and
the City has identified the west side of the street as the logical place for it.
Motion by Commissioner Lauer, seconded by Commissioner Seiss, to approve the final
plat with four conditions including changing the name of Ricky Lane to a derivative of
White Pine. All in favor.
NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business.
OTHER BUSINESS
Council Liaison Position - Council Representative Menikheim stated he may not be
back as Council liaison in January because there will be two new Councilmembers.
He expressed his deep appreciation for having been part of this group over the past
two years and said he has learned a great deal.
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Election of Officers - City Planner Pogge stated that Commissioner Dahlquist has
resigned so the Commission needs to elect a new chair and vice chair.
Motion by Commissioner ________, seconded by Commissioner _____, to nominate
Kocon as Chairman. All in favor.
Motion by Chairman Kocon, seconded by Commissioner _______, to nominate Hansen
as Vice Chair. All in favor.
Commission Openings - City Planner Pogge said there are two more openings on
the Commission. The City has been doing outreach to attract new members.
iPads - City Planner Pogge said a survey and cost benefit analysis was done which
will be presented to the Council in January. If approved, Commission members
should get iPads in March or April.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Hansen, seconded by Commissioner Hade, to adjourn the
meeting at 8:04 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Julie Kink
Recording Secretary
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