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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
November 14, 2012
REGULAR MEETING 7:00 P.M.
Vice -Chairman Kocon called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m.
Present: Vice -Chairman Kocon, Commissioners Hade, Hansen, Kelly, Lauer, Siess,
Council Representative Menikheim
Absent: Commissioner Buchanan
Staff: City Planner Pogge, Community Development Director Turnblad, Deputy
Fire Chief Tom Ballis, City Attorney Magnuson
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Council Representative Menikheim noted that he was present at the October 8, 2012
meeting.
Motion by Siess, seconded by Commissioner Hansen, to approve the October 8, 2012
meeting minutes noting that Council Representative Menikheim was present. All in
favor.
OPEN FORUM
There were no public comments.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. 2012-34. A reauest for a special use permit and a variance to the parking
regulations for an event center located at 214 Main Street South in the CBD. Central
Business District. Judd Sather, applicant.
Chairman Kocon noted that the applicant has requested this item be tabled until next
month, after parking concerns are addressed.
Larry Cramer, who runs Rafters Restaurant, spoke against the proposal. He noted
the Stillwater Hospitality Association has been working with Councilmembers and
the Police Chief to develop tighter controls on events that could lead to personal or
property damage. All servers, bartenders and security staff are required to be
trained. A facility that allows customers to bring in their own liquor provides no
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trained staff to prevent disorderly conduct. He urged the Commission to think hard
about how the proposal would impact other businesses.
Motion by Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner Lauer, to table the request
for a special use permit and variance to parking regulations. All in favor.
Case No. 2012-35. A variance request for the installation of a 3rd stall on an existing
garage located at 2978 Marine Circle located in the RA. Single Family Residential
District. James and Jean Tansev. applicant.
City Planner Pogge explained that the applicant is requesting a 6.8 foot variance to
the required 30 foot side yard setback to allow the addition of a third stall to an
existing two stall garage. Currently at its closet point, the edge of the garage is 35.2
feet from the property line with another 10.8 feet to the back of the curb with Marine
Circle, for a total of 46 feet. The proposal calls for a single stall addition 12 feet wide
by 22.3 feet deep. If approved, the garage will encroach 6.8 feet into the required
setback and leave only 23.2 feet between the garage and the property line and a
total of 34 feet between edge of the garage and back of the curb with Marine Circle.
Staff recommends approval with one condition.
Chairman Kocon asked if the applicant has considered a ten foot garage, which
would encroach almost one-third less into the setback and would still accommodate
a vehicle.
Applicant Jim Tansey said he prefers a 12 -foot garage for ease of opening car doors
without hitting walls. The original plan was to build a 16 -foot addition until the
applicant learned of setback requirements and reduced it to a 12 -foot addition.
Commissioner Hansen commented that he believes 12 feet is an accepted industry
standard for a garage. He does not want to make the garage more difficult to use.
Commissioner Siess commented that limiting the size of garage allowed ultimately
limits the type of cars people drive and she doesn't want to go there.
Motion by Commissioner Lauer, seconded by Commissioner Hansen, to approve the
variance. All in favor.
Case No. 2012-04. A reauest for: 1) annexation of an 18.92 acre property: 2) rezoning
of the property from AP. Agricultural Preservation to RB. Two-Familv Residential: 3)
zoning ordinance amendment to allow armories and fire stations in the RB Zoning
District by Special Use Permit: 4) Special Use Permit for the National Guard armory:
and 5) Special Use Permit for the City of Stillwater Fire Station: and any related
variances, for the construction of a new National Guard Armory and City Fire Station
facilities located immediately northwest of the intersection of Myrtle Street and
Marvknoll Drive in the 13000 Block on County Road 12 (aka 75th Street). Dennis
Arntson, State of Minnesota, DMA, applicant.
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Community Development Director Turnblad reviewed the request. The 18.92 acre
site is proposed to be improved with a co -located 79,465 square foot Armory and a
seven bay Fire Station. The facility will allow both the Fire Station and the Armory to
operate independently, yet conveniently share space because the buildings are
attached. The site and building footprint are laid out to accommodate a gymnasium
expansion, should the City decide to construct that in the future. The facility will be
served by a new public road that will connect Boutwell Road just east of Newberry
Court North to CSAH 12 at Maryknoll Drive. The intersection with the County Road
will require signal lights and associated turn lanes.
Community Development Director Turnblad explained that a new public road is
needed to connect CSAH 12 with Boutwell Road because: neighbors do not want all
the Armory traffic on Boutwell Road; Fire and Rescue response times need to
remain within the acceptable range; and Washington County requires that the
arterial road system functions satisfactorily. There are two proposed entrances to the
facility: the south entrance, which accesses the public reception area of the Fire
Station and Armory classrooms that can be used by the public; and the north
entrance, which is the primary public entrance to the Armory. In order to build the
project as proposed, the following actions would be required:
1. Annexation of the site's three parcels comprising 18.92 acres; and
2. Rezoning of the property to RB, Two -Family Residential; and
3. Zoning Code amendment to allow an Armory and a Municipal Fire Station by
SUP in the RB, Two -Family Residential Zoning District; and
4. SUP for an Armory in the RB Zoning District; and
5. SUP for a Municipal Fire Station in the RB Zoning District.
Community Development Director Turnblad added that all of the requirements for a
SUP are met. He summarized the main points of a traffic study done by SRF
Consulting which found that except Boutwell/Manning, all intersections in the area
currently function satisfactorily and will continue to function satisfactorily after the
project is built. He added that Washington County plans to signalize the
Boutwell/Manning intersection. Mr. Turnblad also reviewed plans for landscaping,
lighting, and exterior building materials. There are 19 conditions proposed.
Commissioner Siess asked about the speed limit on Myrtle.
Community Development Director Turnblad responded that the County has already
said it would support submitting a request to the State for a new traffic study.
Commissioner Hansen asked if there's concern about traffic accelerating up the hill
having to stop for a fire truck in front of them.
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Community Development Director Turnblad replied that warning lights might possibly
be installed at the emergency exit, but the County is still considering what would be
best for that site.
Scott Foss, 162 Boutwell Court, expressed concern about traffic and speeds on
Boutwell Road, saying the hill will be a major problem as vehicles try to stop on the
hill. He feels the proposal will increase the amount of traffic on Boutwell Road.
Mark Wendt, 142 Boutwell Court, said before purchasing his property in 1999, he
was assured the site would be residential. He never would have bought his property
had he had the slightest clue that a military installation, fire station, signals and turn
lanes would be installed. He commented that the site is not an appropriate location
nor is the plan carefully thought through, and the cost is excessive.
Paul Boucher, 7699 Minar Trail, stated he was aware of planned annexation for
residential purposes when he purchased his property two years ago. He asked what
is the forum to raise deeper questions about the quality of the studies and concerns
about issues that have not yet been addressed?
Chairman Kocon explained the Commission will make a recommendation; the final
decision rests with the City Council.
Community Development Director Turnblad added that all studies and information
available to the Council and Commission are also available to residents as public
record. The City Council will consider this issue December 4 at the very earliest.
Mr. Boucher stated his main concerns are noise and general impact; he wants to
know what can be done to mitigate the sound. Nothing he has seen yet explains how
the proposal will impact his property.
Mary Piontek, 197 Maryknoll Drive, said she is concerned that all the traffic that now
comes down Boutwell and then takes Deerpath will route through the Armory road
and then down Maryknoll. She is not against the Armory but concerned about impact
about traffic flow.
Roger Tomten, 718 South Fifth Street, raised questions about infrastructure
efficiencies in light of the area being zoned residential when the comprehensive plan
was completed. He commented that the proposal represents inefficient land use and
creates no tax base for the community.
Jeff Johnson, 309 South Fifth Street, said the hearing was not well advertised,
especially for a project of nearly $10 million, that will decrease the fire protection of
those in the downtown area. He feels rezoning the property shows poor planning by
taking 180 future homes out of the tax base and spending $10 million. He also
expressed concerns about traffic safety, saying difficult physical terrain will be
exasperated by increased traffic and by the proposed signal.
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Ann Terwedo, Senior Transportation Planner with Washington County, stated that
the County has been working closely with the City on this development including
improvements at the intersection at Maryknoll. The County will look at site distances,
pedestrian crossings, the intersection at Boutwell, and how to achieve safe
roadways.
Community Development Director Turnblad added that at present, the County and
City are looking at turning Boutwell into a right -in, right -out only. A signalized
intersection with turn lanes is planned for Eagle Ridge.
Jeff Bednar, SRF Consulting Group, discussed potential traffic patterns through
Croixwood. He recalled previous concerns related to Deerpath and Brick cut -through
traffic which brought about improvements including a left turn restriction on
Deerpath. The addition of a local road between Myrtle and Boutwell may increase
the potential for through traffic on Maryknoll and other Croixwood streets, but cut -
through traffic is estimated 50-75 vehicles per day on a weekday, or one extra
vehicle every eight to 12 minutes. Today approximately 500 vehicles per day use
Maryknoll south of Myrtle. Adding 50-75 is still considered reasonable for a local
residential street.
In response to Chairman Kocon's request for additional clarification, Mr. Bednar
stated that the total volume on Boutwell north of Myrtle is roughly 1,500. The total
volume on Maryknoll south of Myrtle is roughly 500. He estimates that due to the
connection between Boutwell and Myrtle through the National Guard site, an
additional 50-75 vehicles (northbound and southbound) will choose to use Maryknoll
and other streets as through streets. Northbound traffic will probably represent most
of the 50-75 additional vehicles. The readiness center will generate between 350-
400 trips daily, according to estimates. That is equivalent to about 35 homes. In
comparison, 150 homes would have much more traffic impact for the site.
Community Development Director Turnblad added that for the total area, 175 homes
were predicted, with about 50 homes on this site. He said the City has invested a lot
into infrastructure. Impact fees will be charged per acre as part of this project and
the National Guard understands that. He agreed that the homes would have
generated more trips than development of the site as proposed.
Chairman Kocon asked about the tax base impacts of losing 50 homes versus the
services those 50 homes might need as the City turns tax -generating property into
tax -using property.
Community Development Director Turnblad responded that commercial and
industrial properties usually generate excess revenue compared with residential
properties.
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Commissioner Siess pointed out there is a huge problem with speeds on Myrtle and
passing on the right. She asked if the City can require that the speed limit be
changed.
Community Development Director Turnblad answered that the State dictates the
speed, but the County has already offered to request a new speed study. He pointed
out that sometimes speed limits go up as a result of a traffic study - there are no
guarantees. He also noted that the County and the City will work through the winter
on a Memorandum of Understanding outlining road improvements.
Regarding the proposed lighting, Community Development Director Turnblad
explained that a light meter would have to read zero at the property line but that
doesn't mean no light will be seen. All fixtures have to have a complete cut-off so the
lamp/bulb cannot be seen from any property line. The National Guard will use only
security lights in the parking lot and on the building after hours. Other lights will be
on a timer, shutting off at 6:30 p.m. unless there's an event, at which time the lights
would be shut off after the event.
Asked about noise, Community Development Director Turnblad indicated no outdoor
training will be done at the Armory - training is done offsite. The noise will be
primarily sirens from the Fire Station.
Deputy Fire Chief Ballis noted the Fire Department doesn't use lights and sirens
when responding unless the situation is life threatening - they try to be good
neighbors. He said the new station will allow the Department to provide service to
98% of residents with a six minute response time. He doesn't think a significant
response time difference will occur downtown. The new facility also will allow
consolidation of equipment and provide more room including safe areas to put on
gear, training facilities, and office space.
Motion by Commissioner Kelly, seconded by Commissioner Lauer, to recommend
approval with the 19 conditions listed by staff, plus three additional conditions: 1) -
requesting the County to make application for a speed study 2) requesting advance
notice for emergency exits from the property; and 3) asking the City and County to work
together to explore options for signaling to discourage traffic onto Maryknoll into
Croixwood. All in favor.
A public hearing on the proposed enlaraement of and proposed adoption of a
Modification to the Development Program for Development District No. 1. all
pursuant to Minnesota Statutes Section 469.124 to 469.134. inclusive. as amended. the
proposed Modification of the Financina Plan of Tax Increment Financina District No. 4
(a "Redevelopment District"). all pursuant to and in accordance with Minnesota Statutes
Sections 469.174 to 469.179. inclusive. as amended. City of Stillwater. applicant.
City Attorney Dave Magnuson stated that the City is seeking a modification to
Development District No. 1, to expand it to cover the entire City. This will permit the
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City council to use the increment captured from Tax Increment District No. 4, Target
and Marketplace, to subsidize the capital improvements of streets anywhere in the
City. The Commission is asked to make a finding that this expansion of District No. 1
is consistent with the general plan for development and redevelopment of the City.
There is around $3 million TIF remaining that can be used for qualifying purposes.
Motion by Kelly, seconded by Commissioner Hade to approve Resolution 2012-01, a
resolution finding that the tax increment financing plan for Tax Increment Financing
District No. 4, located within Development District No. 1, conforms to the general plans
for the development and redevelopment of the City of Stillwater. All in favor.
NEW BUSINESS
There was no new business.
OTHER BUSINESS
There was no other business.
ADJOURNMENT
Motion by Commissioner Hansen, seconded by Commissioner Siess, to adjourn the
meeting at 10:28 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Julie Kink
Recording Secretary
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