HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-07-02 HPC MINCITY OF STILLWATER
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
July 2, 2012
Mr. Brach called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Present: John Brach, Robert Goodman, Jeff Johnson, Brian Larson, Reggie Krakowski,
Scott Zahren
Absent: Howard Lieberman and Micky Cook
Commissioner Jeff Johnson arrived at 7:03 p.m. and served as acting chair for the
remainder of the meeting because Chairman Howard Lieberman was absent.
Staff Present: City Planner Mike Pogge
Mr. Larson offered a correction to the minutes of June 4, 2012. Regarding the design
review of exterior paint colors for ArtReach, where it indicated Mr. Goodman and Mr.
Brach stated they are on the committee, it should have stated that Mr. Larson and Mr.
Brach are on the committee.
With that correction, motion by Mr. Krakowski, seconded by Mr. Brach, to approve the
minutes of June 4, 2012. All in favor.
OPEN FORUM There were no public comments.
PUBLIC HEARINGS There were no public hearings.
DESIGN REVIEWS
Case No. DR/2011 -25 Design review for the facade improvement of the building located
at 126 2nd Street South in the CBD, Central Business District. Setac Properties,
Jennifer Cates, applicant.
Ms. Cates was at the meeting to discuss possible revisions to design plans approved in
June 2011 to renovate the facades of two adjacent buildings. Demolition of the existing
exterior revealed previously unknown design elements that Ms. Cates hopes to
replicate. She presented some images and asked the commission for input. She also
stated the old sign that was uncovered, painted on tongue in groove boards, is unique -
she thinks it could be reassembled if there is a desire to transfer it to the local historical
society or place it somewhere on the renovated buildings.
Mr. Johnson suggested seeing if the Washington County Historical Society would be
interested in having the sign, or placing it somewhere inside the renovated buildings.
Mr. Larson said he is happy about the removal of the brick.
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Mr. Johnson suggested the commission take action on the minor changes in design.
Ms. Cates discussed the design elements with commissioners. She stated that the door
in the center of the building with concrete stoop will be removed. She would prefer not
to add an awning on the east, and she is planning to have the window heights be
consistent. Mr. Johnson made suggestions for lighting.
Motion by Mr. Brach, seconded by Mr. Goodman, to approve the revised plan noting the
suggestion of possibly modifying the vertical lines of pilaster design elements, and to
approve the lighting as discussed - over the liquor store sign and one sign location over
the door with gooseneck lighting that returns to where the source is not visible, with
colors to be submitted later. Also original conditions still apply except stucco should not
be applied to the east elevation of the two -story building. All in favor.
Ms. Cates said she will come back with colors, light fixtures and signage details later.
Case No. DR/2012 -14 Design review of the construction of a rooftop deck and bar
(Rafters) located at 317 Main Street South in the CBD, Central Business District. Larry
Cramer, applicant. Continued from the June 4, 2012 meeting.
Mr. Larson recused himself from discussion and stepped away from the commission
table for this item.
Mr. Pogge reviewed the proposed revisions to the plans, involving the second entrance
on Main Street being on the opposite end of the elevation rather than the doors being
side by side. He also said condition number 10 should read a minimum of a nine foot tall
barrier, not a ten foot barrier. He also brought up that the city building official will allow
the door and the window next to the door to be tempered glass and not have a fire
rating behind them, but because the existing door goes to a fire -rated corridor, the
transom windows above need to have the fire rated panel behind them. A metal door is
proposed with a side window opaque with a fire rating behind it.
Mr. Cramer addressed the commission saying he had worked on making the design
more symmetrical. He did not have the building official's input in time for the meeting
packet, so the packet represents the door that he thought would be acceptable at the
time. He said he has no choice but to go forward with the proposal to save the business
upstairs, since the adjacent property owner has made it clear that they will not grant an
easement for an external set of stairs to serve as the second egress from the proposed
rooftop patio.
Mr. Johnson said his concern over having a solid service -type door on Main Street has
been answered by using the tempered glass door.
Mr. Cramer said the rooftop guard rail is three feet back and will have decorative plants.
He said he almost decided not to go forward with the plans due to the expense, saying it
adds about four years to the pay -back.
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Motion by Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Brach, to approve the plans as submitted for
the revised fire egress to Main Street, with a correction to condition number ten
changing from ten to nine feet, and modifying condition number 12 to state that the
railing must be three feet behind the inside face of the parapet wall, and to add another
item that the door panel and sidelight be framed in glass similar to that of the primary
access proposed for the Main Street elevation, and it may be tinted. All in favor.
NEW BUSINESS
RFP's: Mr. Pogge said RFPs for two projects will be going out tomorrow. One is a
downtown podcast program covering 12 buildings and creating a walking tour map. The
other is developing a local designation district for the east half of the Churchill Nelson
Addition resulting in a map, narrative, and design guidelines being created.
Demolition ordinance: Mr. Pogge said the demolition ordinance was approved by the
city council about a month ago. He said St. Paul's Lutheran Church has asked for
demolition review on two properties it owns.
OTHER BUSINESS
Cleaning up downtown: Mr. Johnson mentioned complaints about brown spots on the
sidewalk in front of Tremblay's which might be products being sold (candy) that people
don't like and spit out. Mr. Pogge said the city has cleaned it and in two days it isn't
even evident that it was cleaned. Mr. Zahren pointed out there are some businesses
that don't take care of their property and the city shouldn't be doing it for them.
Mr. Zahren brought up complaints about garbage and the need to work with property
owners to address the embarrassment of inadequate trash enclosures and containment.
He believes the city should require owners to enclose their garbage.
Mr. Pogge said the city is legally able to require this, but it's a matter of will. He
responded when there are enough calls to the city, it will get usually fixed. Many new
business owners don't want to be required to build trash enclosures near their
businesses.
Mr. Zahren said when a new business comes in, a condition of approval about trash
containment should be made and routinely enforced.
ADJOURN
Motion by Mr. Zahren, seconded by Mr. Larson, to adjourn. All in favor. Meeting
adjourned at 8:09 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Julie Kink
Recording Secretary
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