HomeMy WebLinkAbout2012-06-04 HPC MINCITY OF STILLWATER
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES
June 4, 2012
Chair Lieberman called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Present: John Brach, Robert Goodman, Jeff Johnson, Brian Larson, Howard
Lieberman, Scott Zahren, Micky Cook. Reggie Krakowski arrived at 7:15 p.m.
Staff Present: Mike Pogge
Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Zahren moved approval of the minutes of May 7, 2012.
Motion passed unanimously.
OPEN FORUM
PUBLIC HEARINGS
DESIGN REVIEWS
Case No. DR/2012 -24 Design review of signage for Holly Hound & Co. Grooming
located at 105 New England Place #140 in the VC, Village Commercial District. Holly
Johnson, applicant.
Mr. Johnson asked Mr. Pogge if existing lighting is going to be reused.
Mr. Pogge stated that it will be reused even though the application says no.
Mr. Johnson moved to approve the signage with one condition of approval, that the sign
may be lit with the existing lighting available on the building. Mr. Brach seconded the
motion.
Mr. Lieberman suggested tabling a final vote until the end of the meeting in case Ms.
Johnson or someone else related to this application arrives. Motion was tabled.
Case No. DR/2012 -25 Design review of exterior paint colors for Candyland located at
212 Main Street North in the DMU, Downtown Mixed Use District of the CBD, Central
Business District. Brandon Lamb, applicant.
Mr. Lamb presented a paint sample. He said they opted to go with the Dover White. It
will replace what is currently blue painted wood. The brick, metal, masonry, and
limestone stairs will not be painted.
Mr. Zahren moved to approve the request with three conditions as recommended by
staff: that masonry surfaces shall not be painted; all revisions to the approved plan shall
be reviewed and approved by the Heritage Preservation Commission; and no additional
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June 4, 2012
signage without approval of the Heritage Preservation Commission. Mr. Johnson
seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Lamb stated they are hoping to open by July 1.
Case No. DR/2012 -26 Design review of exterior paint colors for Art Reach located at 224
4th Street North in the PA, Public Administration District. Heather Rutledge, Art Reach
St. Croix, applicant.
Mr. Lieberman reviewed the request to paint all non - masonry building surfaces. From a
distance the surface appears to be stone, however it is a unique hammered tin siding
that is currently painted reddish brown. The main color including the tin siding is
proposed to be painted Phillipsburg Blue (slate blue) with white trim.
Mr. Zahren moved to approve as submitted with the three conditions recommended by
staff: masonry surfaces shall not be painted; all revisions to the approved plan shall be
reviewed and approved by the Heritage Preservation Commission; and no additional
signage without the approval of the Heritage Preservation Commission. Mr. Johnson
seconded the motion.
Mr. Goodman and Mr. Brach stated they are on the property committee of this group, so
they would refrain from participating in the vote.
Mr. Brach stated that at the end of the meeting he would like to discuss the roof
changes, which appear to have slipped through the cracks. Changes have already been
made.
Mr. Larson clarified, in regard to conditions for approval, there is no sign proposed.
Motion passed unanimously, with Mr. Larson and Mr. Brach abstaining.
Case No. DR/2012 -14 Design review of a rooftop deck for Rafters Bar and Grill located
at 317 Main Street South in the DMU, Downtown Mixed Use District of the CBD, Central
Business District. Larry Cramer, applicant. Continued from the May 7, 2012 meeting.
Mr. Larson stepped away from the table for the discussion because he has provided
architectural services for Mr. Cramer.
Mr. Cramer presented the plan to remove the internal stairway and add the external
stairway. He stated that everything else about the plan is the same.
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Mr. Cramer pointed out an error in condition number 10. It needs to be a minimum of a
nine foot barrier so a height variance is not needed.
Mr. Pogge stated he had intended to add a condition 13 stating the applicant shall
obtain a permanent easement from the adjacent property owner for the emergency
egress stairs prior to the issuance of the building permit. This puts the onus on the
applicant to work with the adjacent owner to obtain the easement.
Mr. Pogge said staff talked with Mr. Cramer this morning about other options that would
allow the stairs to remain internal to the structure, meet fire standards and leave just
one entrance onto Main Street.
Mr. Johnson suggested the condition state, "permanent easement or fee title
ownership."
Mr. Lieberman read for the record email from Patrick Anderson dated June 1, 2012,
7:44 p.m. to Mr. Pogge, stating that on May 23 two representatives from Marine Leasing
met with Mr. Cramer and his architect Mr. Larson. The email stated there was no
easement agreement reached as of June 1, 2012. Marine Leasing believes that if the
city gives any permissions, those permissions must include specific pre engineered
barriers which will prevent the activity from spilling over property lines.
Mr. Johnson pointed out what is proposed appears to be workable and meets
requirements.
Mr. Lieberman clarified that the Heritage Preservation Commission would not approve
the cutting of another emergency exit on Main Street.
Mr. Cramer said he has been looking at an alternative discussed with Mr. Pogge, but he
is not prepared to discuss this tonight. He reviewed past emails he has exchanged with
Mr. Anderson in which they disagreed on a price for the easement. He said he would
like design approval as requested so he can discuss the issue further with Mr.
Anderson. He summarized his failure to come to agreement with Mr. Anderson on the
price of the easement in question.
Mr. Zahren said that Mr. Cramer's dealings with Mr. Anderson and Marine Leasing are
outside the purview of the Heritage Preservation Commission.
Mr. Lieberman agreed that the easement issue should be taken up between the two
parties and should not involve the commission.
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Mr. Johnson moved to approve the request as submitted with 12 conditions, with
modification to condition 10, and addition of condition 13 as stated by Mr. Pogge:
1) all revisions to the approved plan shall be reviewed and approved by the Heritage
Preservation Commission;
2) no additional signage without Heritage Preservation Commission approval;
3) a full lighting plan shall be submitted to and approved by the city planner prior to
issuance of a building permit. Light wattage shall be limited in order to minimize
impact to adjacent property owner and potential light pollution;
4) lighting on the rooftop patio shall be off when the patio is not in use;
5) final color of the fencing and other permanent elements shall be submitted to and
approved by the city planner prior to issuance of a building permit;
6) the applicant shall submit a SAC determination letter prior to the issuance of a
building permit;
7) the applicant shall submit plans on the rooftop deck certified by a structural engineer
prior to the issuance of a building permit;
8) plans shall be approved by the building inspector and fire marshal prior to the
issuance of a building permit;
9) the applicant shall receive all appropriate Washington County Health Department
approvals prior to the issuance of a building permit and a certificate of occupancy;
10) a minimum of a 9 foot tall barrier shall be installed along the south edge of the patio.
Final design shall be approved by the city planner prior to the issuance of the building
permit;
11) the fire egress exit proposed on the west elevation shall be removed;
12) the railing shall be behind the parapet wall;
13) the applicant shall obtain a permanent easement from the adjacent property owner
for the emergency egress stairs prior to the issuance of the building permit.
Mr. Zahren seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Cramer presented photos showing his current opening and the opening next door,
which he said is unsightly. If he doesn't have an easement agreement by mid -June, he
will have to reappear before the commission with an alternative design.
Mr. Lieberman asked Mr. Cramer if he has considered indemnifying the adjacent
property owner in case of any damage or other harm caused by the establishment.
Mr. Cramer said the property owner is already quite satisfied with measures in place for
protection of their roof.
Case No. DR/2012 -24 Design review of signage for Holly Hound & Co. Grooming - vote
which was tabled at the beginning of the meeting. Motion passed unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS
Mr. Brach provided history on the Art Reach project. When the project began last year,
financing was obtained, contractors were lined up, the building permit was obtained,
and the roof was done. At that point it was pointed out that a design permit from the
Heritage Preservation Commission should have been obtained and as a commissioner
involved with the project, he was embarrassed that this was not done earlier. He
wondered if there is something the commission can do to educate the community on
what projects require permits.
Mr. Pogge agreed it can be confusing. Stillwater has a lot of layered districts. A property
information database is on the city web site which will tell users what zone and district a
particular property is in. Commissioners discussed the information available on the web
site and ideas for making it more useable to residents and real estate agents seeking
property information.
Mr. Pogge stated tomorrow night the city council will hold second reading of the
demolition ordinance.
Mr. Pogge indicated the city has received four grants to fund two projects: the local
designation district and podcasts.
Mr. Johnson asked about Paris Avenue where it becomes Fourth Avenue South - where
Mrs. Junker's house was removed and a hole has been there ever since.
Mr. Pogge explained the property owners intend to move back to Stillwater from
Colorado where they are in the process of selling their home. The city started an
abatement action but pulled back because the property owners entered a contract to
sell their Colorado home. They have until September or October to start the project and
he believes they will do so. They will have to obtain approval on the infill.
Meeting adjourned at 7:54 p.m. on a motion by Mr. Lieberman.
Mr. Pogge introduced the summer planning intern, Brian Finley.
Respectfully submitted,
Julie Kink
Recording Secretary
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