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City of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
February 2,2004
Present: Howard Lieberman, Chairperson, Phil Eastwood, Jeff Johnson, Brent Peterson and
Roger Tomten
Others: Sue Fitzgerald, city planner
Absent: Commissioners Hark and Kraske
Mr. Lieberman called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. He noted that none of the cases on the
February 2 agenda were the subject of public hearings.
Approval of minutes: Minutes of December 1, 2003 - Mr. Johnson said Case No. DRl03-75
should be corrected to indicate that ground lighting was not allowed; that two signs were
approved - a pylon sign and one additional exterior sign, with no wall signage allowed; and that
the directional signage was to be reviewed by staff for approval. Mr. Tomten noted that he
abstained from the voting and discussion. Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Tomten, moved
approval of the December 1, 2003, minutes as corrected; motion passed unanimously.
Minutes of January 5, 2004 - Mr. Johnson asked that the spelling of Paula and Robert
Kroening's names be corrected for the record. Mr. Johnson noted that the initial motion on Case
No. DEM/04-01, on page 13 of the minutetpkJMOO5lack of a second. The amended motion, on
page 14, stands. It was further asked that the record for Case No. DRl03-51a be corrected to
indicate that the Commission approved the relocation of two rooms, not the addition of two
rooms. Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Tomten, moved approval of the minutes of January 5,
2004, as corrected.
Discussion and update of Downtown Streetscape Enhancement Study, presented by Bob Lane
Mr. Russell said the Streetscape Enhancement Study is a follow-up to the Downtown Plan
update. The study will include streetscape details including a pedestrian plaza, trails and signage.
Comments are being sought from the City's various commissions/boards.
Bob Lane of Lane Design Group, Mahtomedi, outlined the proposed study work plan. The intent
of the study, he said, is to identify appropriate and responsible changes that can be made to refine
and enhance the downtown experience. The next step will be an in-depth field survey. Once the
survey is completed and needs/opportunities identified, a workshop session will be scheduled to
present those findings and solicit input. Then a "problem statement" and ways to solve the
"problems" will be created. Findings will be organized and presented in a design document.
Mr. Lane also reviewed the backgrounds of the various team members who will be looking at the
retail climate, historic preservation issues, landscape and architecture.
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Mr. Johnson noted the HPC's interested is in historic preservations. He asked about the
possibility of including copies of photos of building elevations/facades.
Mr. Lieberman asked whether the team would be interested in having one HPC member
designated as a contact person. Mr. Johnson agreed that might be helpful. It was agreed that Mr.
Peterson should be the contact person regarding historic issues and Mr. Tomten the contact
regarding architectural-related issues.
Mr. Lieberman noted the decision on a new river crossing and disposition of the lift bridge
would have an impact on the study. He volunteered to be a resource person on those issues.
Mr. Tomten talked of the need to begin looking at the downtown three-dimensionally and asked
about the possibility of including some type of 3D map of the downtown. Mr. Lane said that
would be a different proposal.
Case No. DRl03-63 Design review of building plans for Stillwater Mills (formerly The Arbours)
on North Main, Michael Hoefler representing the applicant.
Mr. Hoefler reviewed changes to the Main Street fa<;ade. As proposed, he said there are
numerous storefront facades to give a mdfli18C2005c look as requested. There also will be a
boardwalk, with stairways and wrought iron railing, on Main Street. The building has been
pushed back about 8 feet, he said, which will enable both an 8-foot wide sidewalk and an 8-10
foot boardwalk.
Mr. Hoefler also reviewed plans for the plaza area which will incorporate picnic shelters that
have the shape of the Art Andes building, as well as the proposed building materials (brick and
stucco) and building material colors.
Mr. Lieberman asked about the plans for entrances to stores from the parking area. Mr. Hoefler
said that will depend on the unit tenants. Mr. Lieberman suggested the extension of the brick
material to the parking side elevation and talked of the importance of giving that elevation the
same "careful treatment" as has been done with the Main Street elevation.
Mr. Johnson asked that the HPC be provided with details regarding lighting fixtures, stone
patterns and landscaping between the two sidewalk elevations as plans proceed. Mr. Johnson,
seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval as conditioned. Mr. Lieberman reiterated his concern
regarding the facades by the parking area and asked that provision of detailed elevation plans for
the parking area/retail entrances be added as a condition of approval. Mr. Johnson agreed to add
that condition to his motion. Mr. Hoefler said the applicant could provide concept plans, but said
they need some flexibility for tenants.
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Mr. Lieberman also noted the applicant needs to submit a sign package. Mr. Johnson pointed out
signage is referenced in the conditions of approval. Mr. Johnson said he also would like to see
more details regarding vents. He reaffirmed his motion of approval as conditioned and amended.
Mr. Eastwood seconded the reaffirmed motion. Motion passed unanimously. Mr. Hoefler agreed
to provide the details of the Mulberry Street elevation by the June meeting.
Case No. DRl04-05 This case was continued to the March HPC meeting.
Case No. DRl04-06 Design review of exterior modifications for John's Bar, 302 S. Main St.
Randy Rogers and Kevin Dune, applicants.
The applicants were unable to attend the meeting. Ms. Fitzgerald briefly reviewed their request
which includes removing the wood on the front elevation, installing glass windows, adding a
vestibule to the front and moving the front entrance to the north.
Mr. Johnson expressed a concern about the type of openings underneath the wood. Members also
expressed concerns about the proposed use of glass across the front and moving the entrance to
the side. It was agreed to continue this case to the March meeting. Ms. Fitzgerald will
communicate the Commission's concerns to the applicants.
10/10/2005
Case No. DRl04-07 Design review of exterior signage for Flips Gymnastics, 1900 Tower Dr.
Bart Roskoski, applicant.
Mr. Roskoski and the building owner were present.
Mr. Johnson expressed a concern that the proposed awning alters the architecture of the building
significantly. Much of the discussion centered on signage alternatives to the use of the awning,
none of which worked for or were amenable to the applicant who noted that he has another
business location in White Bear Lake which uses the same type of awning signage.
Mr. Eastwood noted that the proposal meets the intent of the West Business Park design
guidelines and moved for approval as conditioned. Mr. Peterson seconded the motion. Mr.
Johnson suggested that the record be clarified that the awning extends no more than two feet as
in the drawings it appears it extends more than two feet. Mr. Johnson also said it should be noted
the awning will be internally lit. Motion for approval as conditioned passed unanimously.
Case No. DRl04-08 Design review of Liberty Village retail/office center on England Place
Street. Jay Feider, KFPWR Properties, applicant.
Mr. Tomten said he would be abstaining from a vote on this case as he serves on the architectural
review committee for the Liberty area. He said the committee believes this project has come a
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long way toward crating a mixed use feel, that of a neighborhood commercial center, and
downplaying the strip development treatment.
The applicant and Nathaniel Shea, architect, were present. Mr. Shea reviewed revised plans
which, he said, attempt to create a New England type village. He reviewed elevations and floor
plans, building materials, and possible sign locations, along with lettering style. He noted that
signage has been eliminated from the second-floor office spaces and consolidated in a sign over
one of the entries to the second floor. The back of trash enclosures will be utilized for signage
and the previously proposed monument sign has been eliminated. He said the proposed
landscaping plan is unchanged except for the use of a different variety of conifer to screen the
parking area, as recommended by staff. The parking lot lighting will use the same cut-off fixtures
as used by the adjacent bank. Gooseneck lighting will be used for the signage.
There was a brief discussion of the detailing of the gable ends of the roof. Most of the roof will
be flat to provide screening for mechanicals.
Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Eastwood, moved approval as conditioned. Mr. Johnson
suggested it be noted details regarding the sign plan will come back to the HPC for approval, and
Mr. Eastwood said it should be noted the monument sign has been removed. Motion for approval
passed 4-0, with Mr. Tomten abstaining. 10/10/2005
Case No. DRl04-09 Design review of Phase II of Terra Springs, 640 North Main St. Matthew
Brinza, representing the applicant.
Mr. Brinza reviewed plans for the 36-unit, 22,076 square-foot condominium complex. The
building incorporates the adaptive reuse of a portion of the existing masonry wall on site. Other
exterior materials include brick that is similar in color and texture to the historic masonry, along
with fiber cement board lap siding, corrugated metal siding and asphalt shingles.
The landscape and lighting plans are a continuation of that proposed for the entire Terra Springs
development. Brick pavers will be used in walkways around the building and interpretive trail.
Also reviewed were lighting plans. All mechanical units will be in the basement, as will the trash
receptacles.
Mr. Peterson moved approval as conditioned. Mr. Eastwood seconded the motion; motion passed
unanimously.
Case No. DRl04-10 Design review of landscape plan and lighting plan for Lakeview Hospital's
parking ramp at 1104 and 1112 Everett St. St. Jeffrey Robertson, applicant.
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Dick Dufresne of Walker Parking Consultants was present representing the applicant. He
reviewed the proposed lighting fixtures and placement. Ms. Fitzgerald had reviewed the
landscaping plan.
Mr. Johnson moved approval as conditioned, specifying that shoebox, down lit fixtures,
PROFORMER-XL with flat lenses be approved at locations AA. Mr. Peterson seconded the
motion.
Mr. Lieberman asked about the retaining wall and landscaping proposed for the Greeley Street
elevation and said he was not prepared to vote for approval absent those details. Mr. Dufresne
said the applicant will develop those detailed plans when the impact of construction of the
holding pond is known. Mr. Johnson agreed that he was interested in the plans for the ponding
area.
Mr. Lieberman moved to continue the case until the applicant provides complete plans for the
Greeley Street elevation and the new pond. It was decided to continue approval of both the
landscaping and lighting plans to the March meeting. Mr. Eastwood seconded the motion to
continue; motion passed unanimously.
Other items 10/10/2005
. Bridge update. Mr. Lieberman provided a brief update on bridge-related issues. Demolition
of the lift bridge is off the table, he said. SHPO favors future use of the lift bridge as a limited
local traffic roadway or as a bike/pedestrian way. Several members spoke in favor of
keeping the lift bridge open to traffic. Mr. Lieberman also noted that the no-build alternative
has been removed from the table for consideration.
. News rack policy. Ms. Fitzgerald gave an update on the recently approved policy. Mr.
Johnson suggested that item C-l should be clarified to include the boundaries of the Historic
District, as well as F-2 to enumerate the total number of boxes allowed. Mr. Johnson also
questioned why it was necessary to designate the use of black iron boxes. Mr. Lieberman
said he thought the measure should be an ordinance rather than a policy.
. Members were asked to be thinking about the Preservation Awards to be presented in May.
. Mr. Lieberman noted for the record that the March meeting will be held March 10, rather
than the usual first Monday of the month.
Mr. Lieberman, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved to adjourn at 10:42 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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