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City of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
March 10, 2004
Present: Vice Chair Jeff Johnson, Patte Kraske, Brent Peterson, and Roger Tomten
Others: Planner Sue Fitzgerald
Absent: Chairman Howard Lieberman, Phil Eastwood and Diane Hark
Mr. Johnson called the meeting to order.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Peterson, seconded by Mr. Tomten, moved approval of the minutes of
Feb. 2, 2004, as presented; motion passed unanimously.
Don Empson briefly addressed the Commission. He said he is compiling his Churchill, Nelson,
Slaughter addition study into book form, as he has done with his other studies. He said he will
not be doing any additional neighborhood studies and thanked the Commission for its past
support. Mr. Empson urged the Commission to be more proactive in the future. He mentioned
publishing design guideline pamphlets, guides to historic districts, or doing historical markers of
homes as examples of possible future projects; he distributed several pamphlets completed by
other communities. Mr. Johnson thanked Mr. Empson for his past work with the Commission.
Ed Hocksford, representing Rivertown I1Nw,1 W~efifud the Commission on several requested
changes to the plans for renovation of the carriage house. The changes involve placement of
windows. The revised plan eliminates four windows (three small and one double-hung) on the
west elevation of the first floor, while adding three windows, including one door window over
the entry way on the north elevation. Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval of
the revised window placements; motion passed unanimously.
Case No. DRl04-06 Design review of exterior modifications for John's Bar, 302 S. Main St.
Randy Rogers and Kevin Dunn, applicants.
Mr. Rogers explained the intent is to restore the original structure to the extent possible. He
showed photos of his business in Minneapolis as an example of what the new owners are trying
to achieve. He said the upper transoms are still there, and the intent is to reintroduce glass along
the Main Street elevation. The existing steel columns would be retained and incorporated in the
front elevation. The existing rear side door on the Olive Street elevation would simply be
replaced.
Mr. Peterson asked about plans for cleaning the brick exterior, pointing out that it appears the
brick has been skin coated at some point in the past. Mr. Rogers said he thought the best
alternative would be to paint the brick an acceptable color.
The main point of discussion was the applicants' proposal to move the main entrance from Main
Street to Olive Street in order to provide a vestibule area behind the entrance. Mr. Johnson said
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he understood the need for a vestibule and air-lock space, but noted that could be accomplished
by having the main entrance off Main Street. Several members pointed out that historically, the
primary entry door is on Main Street. Mr. Tomten provided the applicants with some possible
design concepts using a Main Street entrance/vestibule. Mr. Rogers said he was not opposed to
the design concepts, as long as they are workable for his window provider.
When asked about signage, Mr. Rogers said signage will be minimal, primarily utilizing window
space.
Mr. Johnson moved approval with the conditions that the main entrance be on the Main Street
elevation; that the existing steel columns and transom windows be retained; that the knee-wall
appearance of the front elevation be retained; and that the applicants come back to the HPC with
a proposed color for treatment of the brick exterior. The motion included approval of the side
door treatment on Olive Street as presented. If the applicants are unable to accomplish the
alternatives presented for the Main Street entrance, they are to return to the HPC with details as
to why that is not possible. Mr. Peterson seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
Case No. DRl04-11 Design review of American Classic Homes Liberty Village Office Building,
Lot 6, Block 1, Liberty Village 3rd addition on New England Place in the VC, Village
Commercial District. Don Nelson, applicanto/10/2005
Representing the applicant were Matt Alexander and Paul Carlson. Mr. Johnson noted that Mr.
Tomten is a member of the Liberty design review committee and thus would be abstaining from
the vote on this case.
Mr. Carlson briefly reviewed lighting plans; fixtures will be similar in style to other buildings in
the development. Mechanicals will be enclosed with a 3 liz' picket fence. Ms. Fitzgerald has
reviewed the landscape plan, he said.
Much of the discussion centered on the proposal for a projecting sign with American Classic
Homes' logo, as well as a frieze wall sign over the office entry, not allowable under the City's
design guidelines. Members pointed out that if the applicant desired to use the projecting sign,
the frieze board signage could include some generic description of the business, but not the
business name or logo. Mr. Johnson suggested that the projecting sign will work well; he also
noted that the applicant could use window space for a second sign.
Mr. Peterson, moved approval as conditioned, with the additional condition that American
Classic Homes be allowed one projecting sign and that the frieze board sign at the entry not
include the company name or logo. The applicant is to come back to the HPC when other
building tenants are identified and signage details are known. Ms. Kraske seconded the motion.
Motion passed 3-0, with Mr. Tomten abstaining.
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Case No. DRl04-12 Design review of signage and additional awnings at 200 E. Chestnut St. in
the CBD, Central Business District. Mark Balay Architects, applicant.
Mr. Balay was present. He explained the proposal to utilize awnings on the Chestnut Street and
Myrtle Street elevations. The awning on the Chestnut Street elevation, as proposed, would
include the address and tenant business functions - florist, photography, etc. Mr. Balay
suggested it might be confusing to have the address on the Myrtle Street awning and asked about
the possibility of just designating the building name - Chestnut Building. As proposed, there
would be two windows with awnings. The closed-end, solid frame awnings would be Kelly
green.
Mr. Balay also requested approval of exterior tenant sign locations, noting that the building has
multiple tenants and four street elevations. Mr. Balay's proposal was for two 4x4' sign squares
on either side of the two existing entrances. He also pointed out there is a possibility of an
additional entrance at some point in the future.
Mr. Johnson suggested using the designation of Chestnut Building on both of the primary
awnings, rather than using the address on the Chestnut side. Mr. Balay was agreeable to that
suggestion. Mr. Tomten said he like the idea of the proposed signage squares and suggesting the
squares be framed in a uniform manner. 10/10/2005
Mr. Tomten moved approval of the requested Kelly green awnings and the two 4x4' sign spaces
on the Chestnut and Myrtle Street entrances, with the potential for two additional sign spaces on
the Second Street elevation should there be an additional entrance at some point in the future.
The signage spaces are to be uniform in color and framing. If the color of the awnings changes,
the applicant is to return with color samples. Mr. Johnson seconded the motion; motion passed
unanimously.
Case No. SUP /04-11 A transfer of a special use permit for a bed and breakfast, Ann Bean, at 319
W. Pine St. in the RB, Two Family Residential District. Jeremy Drews, applicant.
Mr. Drews was present. He said he is aware of the conditions of the special use permit. He is
requesting the same number of special events as the previous owners; the number of rooms will
remain the same, and the new owner plans no other alterations.
Mr. Peterson, seconded by Ms. Kraske, moved approval of the transfer of the special use permit.
Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Drews asked about the possibility of lighting the exterior sign, as a number of guests have
had trouble finding the home. While the sign itself cannot be lighted, members suggested the use
of some type of lawn or sidewalk lighting as a possible solution.
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Case No. DRl04-10 Design review of landscape plan and lighting plan for Lakeview Hospital's
parking ramp at 12104 and 1112 Everett St. S.
Dick Dufresne of Walker Parking Consultants was present with details regarding landscaping on
the Greeley Street elevation and the new ponding area as requested by the HPC during the
February discussion of this case.
Mr. Peterson asked if the trees would interfere with sight lines. Mr. Dufresne said that will be
looked at before placement of the trees. Mr. Johnson asked about a grading plan for the pond;
Ms. Fitzgerald noted that will be reviewed by the city engineering department. Mr. Dufresne
noted the City is putting in another ponding area across the street, and that might be incorporated
into the Lakeview project.
Mr. Tomten asked about the proposed fence on the retaining wall. Mr. Dufresne explained the
proposed 6' high, vinyl-coated chain link fence is proposed to eliminate a potential nuisance
from pedestrian traffic; he noted there is a potential for liability. Mr. Tomten suggested
eliminating the fence on the low, straight portion of the retaining wall and utilizing a lower fence
as the retaining wall increases in height.
Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Peterson, ip~ahe landscaping plan as presented with the
condition that the applicant eliminate or reduce the height of the fence on the south side of the
retaining wall. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Johnson moved to formalize approval of the lighting plan as conditioned and documented in
the Feb. 2 minutes. Ms. Kraske seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
Case No. DRl04-13 At the applicant's request, this case was table until the April meeting.
Case No. DRl04-14 Design review of signage for Party America at 1851 Market Dr. Nordquist
Sign, representing the applicant.
The applicant was not present. Ms. Fitzgerald noted the request is simply to replace the existing
Paper Warehouse signage with the new business name. The requested sigtn has been approved
by Dave Remer, Urban Associates.
Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval as conditioned, with the additional
condition that the existing Paper Warehouse sign be removed. Motion passed unanimously.
Other items:
Ms. Fitzgerald said she had received a request to allow outside tables at Roly Poly's. Members
felt that would be acceptable.
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Heritage Preservation Commission
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Members submitted their suggestions for the annual Preservation Awards. After discussion and
vote, it was decided to give the following awards this year: Don Empson for historic
contributions to Stillwater; Peace House for preservations of an historic structure slated for
demolition; the Old Post Office for best reuse of a building; and Central Hub Bicycles for
slgnage.
Ms. Fitzgerald said she would be following up on compliance issues with the Depot signage.
Mr. Peterson informed members that the Washington County Historical Society is pursuing
ownership of the guard tower at the Territorial Prison. Mark Balay is working on the design. Mr.
Peterson said he would keep the HPC informed as to the progress of the project.
Mr. Johnson provided a copy of the Alliance Review, a publication of the National Alliance of
Preservation Commissions; he suggested the possibility of a membership in that group.
Mr. Peterson, seconded by Ms. Kraske, moved to adjourn at 9:25 p.m. Motion passed
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
10/10/2005
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