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City of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
August 2, 2004
Present: Howard Lieberman, chair (7: 10 p.m.)
Phil Eastwood, Diane Hark, Jeff Johnson, Patte Kraske and Brent Peterson
Others: Planner Sue Fitzgerald
Absent: Roger Tomten
Vice Chair Jeff Johnson called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Peterson moved approved of the minutes of July 7, 2004. Ms.
Hark seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
Case No. DRl04-45 Design review of a hot dog vending cart at 204 N. Main St. Todd
Romocky and Bev Krieger, applicants.
The applicants were present. Mr. Johnson clarified that the cart would be located in the
fenced area at the property, not on the sidewalk. Mr. Peterson asked about arrangements
for trash removal. The applicants stated they have portable trash receptacles. The
applicants also noted only water and soft drinks would be sold from the cart.
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Mr. Eastwood, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval as conditioned. Mr. Johnson
suggested adding the condition that the applicants provide waste receptacles. Mr.
Eastwood and Mr. Peterson accepted that addition to the motion. Motion passed
unanimously.
Case No. DRl04-46 Ms. Fitzgerald informed the Commission that this case has been
canceled.
Case No. DRl04-47 Design review of sign age at 415 N. Main St.
Cornerstone Gifts has moved from the Grand Garage to a new location at 415 N. Main St.
The owner is requesting to hang a 2x8 banner above the windows to match neighboring
businesses.
Mr. Johnson noted that the sign plan for that building provides for an interior directory
and does not allow for exterior signage. He noted that lettering can be placed within the
glass of the business. Upon questioning of the applicant, it was noted that the building
could be named, similar to the signage for the Chestnut Street Building.
Mr. Johnson moved to deny the exterior signage. Mr. Eastwood seconded the motion;
motion passed unanimously.
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Case No. DRl04-48 Design review of signage for the Lived In Room, 826 S. Fourth St.
Faith Bancroft representing the applicant.
The building is located at the corner of South Fourth and Churchill streets. Ms. Bancroft
explained the signage would be placed on the existing sign band at the corner of the
building, so there would be signage on both the Fourth Street and Churchill Street
elevations. She provided a graphic of the proposed sign. There would be no awnings on
the building, and the sign would not be lighted. Mr. Johnson suggested adding a darker
border to better define the sign.
Mr. Johnson moved approval of the requested signage with e a dark perimeter band, with
the condition that the sign not be lighted; allowing the requested signage to be placed at
the two elevations in the existing sign band above the entry door. Mr. Eastwood seconded
the motion; motion passed unanimously.
Other business:
Councilman Gary Kriesel and Robert Gag, chair of the Planning Commission, appeared
to request the HPC's support of a proposal to bring Ed McMahon, vice president and
director of land use program for the Conservation Fund, here to give a
presentation/seminar on developing a S1::lli~<.El/~f)05>mmunity. They explained that the idea
grew out of a seminar they and other City representatives had attended at River Falls,
where Mr. McMahon had been a featured speaker.
HPC members were very supportive of the proposal and agreed to work with Mr. Kriesel
and Mr. Gag, and provide any funding that might be available in the HPC' s budget, in
arranging for a presentation by Mr. McMahon.
There was a brief discussion about in-fill structures. Mr. Gag said he wants to be
proactive and develop a set of guidelines and neighborhood characteristics that
developers must abide by. Mr. Eastwood suggested that the HPC and Planning
Commission should work together to formalize such a set of guidelines. Mr. Johnson
noted that the HPC has completed the historic surveys so this would be an appropriate
time for the City to establish a conservancy district. Mr. Johnson suggested to Mr. Kriesel
that the City Council charge the Planning Commission and Heritage Preservation
Commission with the task of looking at developing a conservancy district as an impetus
to developing guidelines for in-fill structures.
There was a continuation of the discussion regarding downtown banners/beautification
with Bob Lane and J oci Tilsen of the Chamber's Historic District Committee. Much of
the discussion centered on what the Committee hopes to accomplish with banners. In
addition to making the downtown visually attractive and pedestrian-friendly, the
Committee wants to attract local people to the downtown district. Several HPC members
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again expressed concern that banners obscure signage, contribute to visual clutter, and
don't provide a sense of Stillwater's identity. Ms. Tilsen suggested that having banners
all one color might eliminate the concern about "clutter." Mr. Johnson suggested part of
the problem with banners might be the rigid oblong look; he provided a sketch of a
possible alternative design. Mr. Johnson also suggested that expanding pedestrian
lighting along Second and Third streets might be an alternative to banners. It was agreed
to continue the discussion at the September meeting.
A letter regarding Burlington Northern & Santa Fe Railway Co. rail line abandonment in
Stillwater was included in the agenda packet. There was a brief discussion as how to
respond to the letter. Mr. Lieberman said the City should be a consulting party as a matter
of record. Mr. Johnson suggested the City's position regarding the 106 process is that the
City has no problem with the abandonment of the track. Mr. Johnson also pointed out the
oversight of failure to reference the depot at the Freight House.
Mr. Johnson expressed a concern about a plastic, brick bar on the patio of the Water
Street Inn. Ms. Fitzgerald will talk to the owner about that matter.
Mr. Lieberman adjourned the meeting at 9:05 p.m.
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Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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