HomeMy WebLinkAbout2000-06-05 HPC MINCity of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
June 5, 2000
Present: Howard Lieberman, chairperson
Jeff Johnson, Dean Miller and Roger Tomten
Others: Planner Sue Fitzgerald
Absent: Beth Diem, Phil Eastwood and Robert Kimbrel
Mr. Lieberman called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
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Approval of minutes: Mr. Miller noted a problem with spacing at the top of page 2 of the
minutes of May 1. Mr. Johnson said the reference to the wall packs at the ice arena on page 3
should indicate that such lighting is not permitted and that Ms. Fitzgerald was asked to check
into the matter. Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Miller, moved approval of the May 1, 2000,
minutes as corrected; all in favor.
Case. No.DR/00 -12 Design Review of exterior modifications at 314 Chestnut St. E. Mike and
Sandy Hudson, applicants.
Sandy Hudson was present. She said they have purchased the vacant lot east of the Laskin
building. The request is to provide a rear entrance to the gift shop which is located in their
building. The entrance will be a commercial steel metal door, plain gray in color. Mr. Johnson
asked if any wall surface treatment or fencing of the lot is planned. Ms. Hudson said not at this
time.
Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Tomten, moved to approve the second entrance as conditioned,
with any changes to the lot to come back before the HPC; all in favor. There was some
discussion as to the possibility of reuse of the material — limestone /pavers -- that has been
removed from the lot.
Case No. DR/00 -13 Design review of an addition to the Church of St. Michael, 611 S. Third St.
Architectural Network, representing the Church of St. Michael.
Joe Marchetti was present representing Architectural Network.
Mr. Tomten asked about outdoor lighting. Mr. Marchetti said there would be three or four lights
on 20 -25' poles in the east parking lot, down -lit, wall pack fixtures will used over the security
doors, and there will be some pedestrian lighting on the walking paths similar to those at the
Historic Courthouse.
Mr. Johnson asked about materials. Materials will be brick/mortar to match the existing school
asbest possible. The two -story in -fill building will have a two -foot limestone sill with glazing
about. A bid alternative is to clean and stain the 1961 school addition. Regarding roof top
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mechanicals, Mr. Marchetti said the equipment on the new gym will be screened by the roof
parapet and will be set back from the Third and East Willard Street elevations to minimize
visibility. The unit on the new parish addition also will be screened by the parapet.
Mr. Marchetti said the proposal is to try to use existing garages on the southeast corner of the lot
for trash enclosure. Mr. Johnson said he would like to see a permanent structure for dumpster
enclosure and agreed the southeast area seemed to be the most appropriate location for such a
structure.
Regarding signage, Mr. Marchetti said there will be one new piece, a memorial sign incorporated
on the Third Street entry to the building and perhaps a sign on the north wall of the new parish
addition which otherwise would be a blank wall. Existing signs will be used; the rest of the
signage will be handled within the building, he said.
Landscaping plans include new plantings by the new play area only. Mr. Johnson suggested it
might be nice to introduce some new plantings on the Willard Street elevation to reduce the
height of the wall, as well as on the south side to screen air conditioning units.
Mr. Lieberman moved to accept the plans as conditioned, eliminating condition of approval No.
11, with landscaping plans to be brought back for further review. Mr. Miller seconded the
motion; motion passed unanimously. Mr. Johnson asked that the record indicate Ms. Diem was
not present and did not vote on this case.
Case No. DR/00 -14 Design review of exterior modifications for Larry's Flooring at 212
Commercial St. Larry O'Connor, applicant.
Mr. O'Connor was present.
Mr. Tomten asked about the materials to be used when the overhead doors are removed and
whether the building would be patched. Mr. O'Connor said future plans are to eliminate the
metal, pole barn look.
When asked if he intended to use his existing awning, Mr. O'Connor said the current awning
probably won't work at the new location. The new awning will be of the same colors — red and
white. Mr. Johnson asked if there would be signage on the awning, and Mr. O'Connor said he
would like to be able to do so. Ms. Fitzgerald noted that signage was limited to one projecting
sign or signage on the canopy. Mr. O'Connor asked if some type of carpeting symbol could be
placed on the sides of the awning and was told that would be acceptable, as is letting on the
inside glass. Mr. O'Connor stated that at some point in the future he might like to do painting on
the east side of the building, similar to Images of the Past. Mr. Johnson noted that any such
painting could not specifically relate to the business.
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Mr. O'Connor said he had not decided on lighting. Mr. Lieberman pointed out that if he wants
lighting in the future, the applicant will have to return to the HPC.
Mr. Johnson moved approval as conditioned, with the additional condition that the in -fill siding
material be the same or match the existing material; that lettering be allowed on the front of the
awning (dark red), with no additional signage; that there is to be no lighting at this point; and that
the trash enclosure be screened with a wooden or masonry fence. Mr. Tomten seconded the
motion; all in favor.
Case No. DR/00 -15 Design review of signage for Caribou Coffee at 1830 Market Dr. Kevin
Snyder of Signart, representing Caribou Coffee.
Mr. Johnson asked if there would be lighting /signage on the rear elevation. The applicant's
representative stated there will be individual, illuminated letters, but no logo. Letters will be 20"
high on the front elevation and 18" on the rear elevation.
Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Tomten, moved approval as submitted.
Case No. DR/00 -16 Design review of exterior modifications for the roof of 3M at 1987 Industrial
Blvd. Bill Schultz, representing 3M.
A project consultant stated four old units will be replaced with two smaller units of larger
capacity. The new equipment will be no higher than the other major equipment on the roof and
will be no taller than the tallest unit on the building.
Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved approval of the new units as conditioned and the
additional condition that they be the same color as the existing units. Motion passed
unanimously.
Case No. DR/00 -17 Design review of parking lot and parking lot lighting for Stillwater Area
Schools at 1875 S. Greeley St. Inspec Inc., representing Stillwater Area Schools.
Stan Lim was present representing the applicant. He stated one light would be added by the
loading dock. The remaining existing lights would be replaced. He said the request is to widen
the parking lot entry radius on Greeley Street; it was noted that is an engineering department
issue, not HPC's. Regarding landscaping, only one tree will have to be removed.
Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved approval as submitted. Motion passed
unanimously.
Case No. DR/00 -18 Design review of a sign at 223 Chestnut St. Laura Shely, applicant.
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Ms. Shely said the new signage for her business, Relaxation Station, would be placed over the
existing large wall sign. She brought samples of wood letters, 6" x 4 ", and color samples. She
said the signage will not be lighted as her business is not open in the evening.
Mr. Johnson pointed out that only one square foot of signage per linear front footage is
allowable; the existing sign is non - conforming. He noted that Ms. Shely could use the existing
backdrop; he also suggested that her sign needs to be defined with a border. Mr. Tomten
suggested having an elongated sign, 12' by 1', with the smaller verbiage painted in the window
below.
Mr. Tomten moved approval of a horizontal format sign of 12' x 1' (equal to the amount of
linear front footage), with the subtitles painted in the glass of the door. The sign will be
burgundy with gold trim, to be placed on a black or very dark green background. The sign is not
to be lighted. Mr. Miller seconded the motion; all in favor.
Other business:
• Ms. Fitzgerald informed members that the City Council had approved hiring an investigator
to conduct the Carli & Schulenburg's addition. She said she will get a list of registered
investigators from SHPO and will sent out RFPs.
• Ms. Fitzgerald said the Ann Bean B &B has been sold to the previous owner. There will be no
change in operation.
• Ms. Fitzgerald said she had talked with Dick Olsen regarding the wall pack at the ice arena;
Mr. Olsen stated it was not a permanent fixture.
• Mr. Johnson said he had been contacted by John Kraemer of the committee working on a
veteran's memorial. Mr. Johnson said he told Mr. Kraemer that was not an HPC issue.
Mayor Kimble's lift bridge proposal
Mayor Jay Kimble appeared before the Commission asking for support for a plan to resolve the
issues surround the new St. Croix River crossing and the preservation of the historic lift bridge.
Mr. Kimble began by stating he feared the new bridge will be lost if the local community cannot
unite on a palatable solution for mitigation, specifically the disposition of the historic lift bridge.
Mr. Kimble stated the proposal has received the support of the RTR bridge committee, City of
Stillwater Chamber of Commerce and Stillwater Area Chamber of Commerce; he was fairly
certain the plan also would receive the support of the coalition for a new St. Croix River bridge.
The City Council was to vote on the issue at its meeting the following day. Mr. Kimble also
stated he thought the plan would be acceptable to the National Park Service.
Most of the discussion centered on the language in B)1 "up to 10 years" ; B)3 the lift should
"should be" fully rehabilitated ... After discussion, Mayor Kimble agreed to the following
language change in section B)3: The TH 36/64 shall be fully rehabilitated to meet the needs of
the city. The report made by A.G. Lichtenstein & Association dated May 1999 shall be the guide
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in the development of this rehabilitation plan which shall include complete repainting, machinery
repairs /replacement and necessary deck improvements." It was also agreed to replace "up to 10
years" in section B)1 to "10 years."
Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Miller, moved to express the HPC support of the plan with the
agreed upon language changes. Vote was 3 -1, with Mr. Tomten voting no.
The meeting adjourned at 9:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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