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City of Stillwater
Parks and Recreation Commission
May 24, 2010
Present: Linda Amrein, chair
David Brandt, Scott Christensen, Rob McGarry, Solveg Peterson,
Mike Polehna and Sandy Snellman
Staff present: Assistant Public Works Superintendent Tim Moore
Approval of minutes: Ms. Amrein noted a correction to the time of the Lost Dogs concert on
page 1, should be 6:30 p.m. Ms. Amrein moved approval of the minutes of April 26, 2010, with
that correction. Mr. Brandt seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
ACTION ITEMS
Special event applications
Community Dinner, Lowell Park, September 11, 2010
Mr. Moore pointed out that providing electricity to the area of the applicant’s option A would
require running some electrical cords, which may prove difficult. Olivier Vrambout, applicant,
said he preferred option A but had listed three location options as he was told there might be
construction going in the portions of the park at the time of the event, Sept. 11. Mr. Moore
said the possibility of construction going on at this time is likely pretty small; there was
discussion about options for providing electricity to the area of option A. Mr. Vrambout briefly
explained the event, a dinner to promote sustainable agriculture in the St. Croix Valley.
When asked if alcohol would be available, Mr. Vrambout said he thought it would be nice to
involve a local brewery, but said he didn’t know what would be required to do that; he said
the alcohol wouldn’t be sold, but served as an option with the dinner. Mr. Moore advised him
to work through the City Clerk’s office for the necessary permits and noted the area must be
fenced if alcohol is available. Mr. Vrambout noted the food would be donated and the money
received from the ticket sales would be distributed back to the farmers who donated the
food; he said the intent is to raise awareness only. Mr. Vrambout said for the first year of the
event he would anticipate attendance to be about 100 people. He said he would also like to
have some local musicians playing if that would be allowable; it was noted music must
conclude by 10 p.m. according to the City’s noise ordinance. Mr. Brandt moved to approve
the application for the Community Dinner on Sept. 11 with the details to be worked out with
City staff. Ms. Snellman seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
Plie Dance, Pioneer Park, August 18, 2010
Mr. Moore briefly reviewed the application by Plie Dance Company to use the band shell at
Pioneer Park for a dance performance on Aug. 18. Mr. McGarry moved, seconded by Ms.
Peterson, to approve the application by Plie Dance Company for use of the band shell on
Aug. 18. Motion passed unanimously.
St. Croix Valley Recreation Center rental rates
Doug Brady, manager of the St. Croix Valley Recreation Center, reviewed his proposal for
increased rental fees for the Rec Center. The proposal, he said is to increase ice time rentals by
$5 an hour and field house rentals by $10 an hour. There was discussion about replacement of
the turf in the field house. Mr. Brady noted that the City has set aside $240,000 of the estimated
cost of $400,000, and the Soccer Club has committed to fund the remainder. He said the cost
may be about $30,000 extra depending on the difficulty of removal of the old turf, and the
Soccer Club has indicated it will pay that cost as well. Mr. Polehna suggested the possibility of
charging additional for non-resident use. On a question by Mr. McGarry, Mr. Brady said the
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rental rates have been going up consistently. Mr. Brady noted there was no bonding last year
for capital improvements. Mr. McGarry said he favored increases not to keep pace with
neighboring facilities but to keep pace with inflation and maintenance expenses and moved to
approve the proposed rate increases for the 2010-11 season. Ms. Snellman seconded the
motion; motion passed unanimously. Ms. Amrein suggested it might be good to visit the facility
during the annual park tour. Mr. Brady updated the Commission on a proposal for Dairy Queen
to operate the concessions at the facility. He briefly spoke of an upcoming showcase event for
the Suburban East Conference hockey teams on Dec. 18, an event he said will be a good test
for the air quality monitoring system; he explained the system. Mr. Polehna brought up the issue
of parking.
COMMISSION ITEMS/TOPICS
Mr. Moore said he had received an e-mail from Allison McGinniss regarding the dog park; he
distributed copies of the message. He noted the Commission has discussed this issue on
several occasions, and he said he met separately with the group promoting the dog park
regarding the City’s plan. Mr. Moore said at this time, the City does not have any money
budgeted for a dog park; several sites have been looked at, but no site designated as a dog
park. He said the Council discussed it in conjunction with the Comprehensive Plan update
and removed it from the Plan. He said he would contact Ms. McGinniss and clarify some
items. He said in the meeting with the promoters of the park, he made it clear the City had
no money budgeted for a dog park but offered to assist them in working with City staff to set
up a non-profit entity for their fundraising. Ms. Peterson pointed out that not having a site for
a park has been part of the Commission’s discussion all along. Mr. Moore said in talking with
other communities, creating a dog park was not an overnight success – it took several years
and a lot of work to get a park established. Mr. Moore noted that ultimately this is a Council
decision. In discussion, members suggested that it should be made clear that there is no
designated site in Stillwater and perhaps promoters should talk with neighboring
communities about possible sites. Mr. Christensen suggested that part of the reason for the
e-mail is that Ms. McGinniss has allegedly been receiving mixed messages from some City
people. Mr. Polehna suggested having either Administrator Hansen or Public Works Director
Sanders respond to Ms. McGinnis and provide her with copies of past Park Commission
minutes to eliminate any hearsay.
Mr. Moore provided the Commission with an update on the levee wall project and Lowell
Park plan. He said this was a topic of discussion at the recent City Council retreat and
Council decided to pursue a hybrid version of the levee project using the money the City and
Corps already have available. He said the levee project would include some storm sewer
work in the parking lot areas, re-grading and resurfacing the parking lot areas and re-
grading portion of Lowell Park from Nelson to Mulberry and a portion of north Lowell Park for
use as an amphitheater. He said the Council also discussed some improvements to Lowell
Park that would be part of the project. He said staff was directed to begin working on that
plan. He said staff is working with the Corps so that agency will be doing a certain amount of
the work that will expedite park improvements. He said he believes it might be possible to
start this year on the south end of Lowell Park from Myrtle or Chestnut down to Nelson. He
said the existing irrigation system, a galvanized system that must be manually operated,
would be upgraded with automated sprinkler heads. He said the drinking fountain would be
replaced and there would be improvements to the restrooms. He said part of the process will
be developing a plan so the City can actively start pursuing grants/donations from the
community for additional improvements. He said as part of the retreat discussion, the
Council also directed staff to develop an overall park maintenance program; he said he has
started on that with the turf management plan and the playground equipment audit. He said
in the next several months, he would be coming to the Commission with additional
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information regarding the maintenance program and Lowell Park improvements. He noted
that in the past the Commission has taken its annual tour in June; he said if preliminary
plans are available perhaps the Commission could visit Lowell Park as part of the tour to
envision the plans. Mr. Polehna talked about the reason for the Council’s decision. Ms.
Peterson spoke of several communities’ projects to raise money for waterfront
improvements. Mr. Polehna talked about plans for a plaza area.
Mr. Moore said staff is looking at the possibility of a boat launch at the Barge Terminal
Property. He stated the process of removing the Cayuga has begun. He said the launch
may be of a somewhat temporary nature pending the bridge work. Mr. Moore said the City
has been approached by the Minnesota Train Museum about the tracks in the area; as part
of the agreement the Museum would take the rails and clean up the brush in the area.
There was discussion of the June park tour. Ms. Amrein suggested including the open
space area on the east side of Long Lake; Mr. Polehna talked about the possibility of using
Tree Trust people to build a trail in that area. Mr. Moore stated a letter would be going out to
Long Lake residents informing them they have to remove their items from City property; he
said as time becomes available, staff would be locating property markers. Mr. Christensen
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said it would be nice to have a plan for 72 Street, which is heavily used by walkers but not
set up for that use. Ms. Snellman asked about the upper Northland Park area; Mr. Moore
explained that within a park there may be three different levels of maintenance, with one
level perhaps mowed only once a month. It was agreed the tour would include Lowell Park
and the east side of Long Lake. There was discussion of various other water-quality related
issues. It was agreed to start the June meeting at 6 p.m. or earlier if staff needs additional
time for topics; it was noted the after-gathering is a potluck event.
Ms. Snellman, seconded by Mr. Brandt, moved to adjourn at 8:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary