HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-03-12 CPC MIN• City of Stillwater
Planning Commission
March 12, 2007
Present: Dave Middleton, Chairman, Suzanne Block, Gregg Carlsen, Dan Kalmon, David
Peroceschi and Charles Wolden
Staff present: Community Development Director Turnblad and Planner Pogge
Absent: Mike Dahlquist, Brad Meinke, and Wally Milbrandt
Mr. Middleton called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Ms. Block moved approval of the minutes of Feb. 12, 2007. Mr. Wolden
seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. 07-11 An annexation request for property at 8080 Neal Ave. N. Stephen and Barbara
Kochendorfer, applicants. The applicants were present.
Mr. Pogge reviewed the request and noted the request was prompted by the applicants' failed
. septic system and desire to connect to City sewer/water. The property is in the Phase 4
annexation area where early annexation is allowed if certain criteria are met; this request meets
all the criteria, Mr. Pogge said. It was noted the Kochendorfers are responsible for the cost of
hookup to City services.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. No comments were received, and the hearing was
closed. Ms. Block moved to recommend Council approval of the annexation request for 8080
Neal Ave. N. Mr. Wolden seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
Case No. 07-12 A variance request for front setback and impervious cover variances for
property located at 2214 Fairmeadows Road. Craig and Carrie Floen, applicants. The
applicants were present.
Mr. Turnblad reviewed the request for the four related variances - impervious coverage and
three lot line setbacks. Mr. Floen explained the reason for their plans, noting that the existing
garage of 22x22 is too small to accommodate the family's vehicles, and with four children and
two dogs, they would like to add a mud room and direct access to the house from the garage.
Mr. Floen stated that during a previous remodeling project, structural problems with the garage -
- both the roof and floor -- were discovered. Mr. Floen stated they would be willing to reduce the
requested master bedroom addition by 3' if that would be an important consideration. Mr. Floen
also briefly addressed the reconfiguration of the garage and relocation of the driveway off Laurie
Court.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. Gretchen Turnblad, 305 Laurie Court, corrected a
statement regarding a stop sign made by Mr. Floen. No other comments were received, and the
• hearing was closed.
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• Mr. Peroceschi said he was sympathetic to the request for the new garage, while Mr. Middleton
suggested the proposed size of the garage, 30x30, is quite large. Mr. Kalmon expressed a
concern about the proposed impervious surface coverage and said he thought the request was
asking for too much. Mr. Carlsen expressed a concern about the new garage obstructing sight
lines on Fairmeadows.
Mr. Wolden moved to deny Case No. 07-12. Mr. Carlsen seconded the motion; motion passed
unanimously. Mr. Middleton noted the applicants could appeal the denial to the City Council or
redesign the additions and submit a new application.
Case No. 07-13 A special use permit for a vending cart located between 241/243 and 229 Main
St. S. in the CBD, Central Business District, and any variances related thereto. Steve Farr,
applicant. The applicant was present.
Mr. Turnblad reviewed the request and staff recommendation for approval as conditioned, as
long as the vending cart is located on private property and not on the City sidewalk. Mr. Kalmon
asked about the length of the special use permit, and Ms. Block asked if the special use permit
could be transferred. Mr. Turnblad explained that except in the instances of a bed and breakfast
permit, a special use permit applies to the land and is valid as long as the use is similar or
reviewed upon complaint.
Mr. Farr briefly explained his plans. He said he planned to be in operation during the summer,
from May to the end of August. The proposal specified the hours as 10:30 p.m. to 2:30 a.m.
Thursday, Friday and Saturday evenings. He said the vending cart would be towed in and out of
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the site each day. When asked about cleanup, he said he would clean up the area himself, as
well as provide the required garbage can. He asked if he would be allowed to utilize another
private space if he is unable to secure an agreement with the property owner for this proposed
site. Mr. Turnblad suggested Mr. Farr could either have the special use permit discussion tabled
until he completed his negotiations, or he could have it approved for the proposed site and
submit a new application for a different site if the lease negotiation was not successful. Mr. Farr
asked if another $500 application fee would be charged if he needed a different site. Mr.
Turnblad answered that he would not charge another application fee. Mr. Farr chose to
continue with the current site.
When asked if he would be offering beverages, Mr. Farr said he might be offering water.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. No comments were received, and the hearing was
closed. Mr. Peroceschi moved approval of the special use permit. Mr. Carlsen seconded the
motion and asked if Mr. Peroceschi would include a condition regarding review upon complaint
and specifying the hours of operation as 10:30 p.m. to 2:30 a.m. Thursday-Saturday. Mr.
Peroceschi agreed to amend his motion as suggested by Mr. Carlsen. Mr. Wolden asked if it
would be in the applicant's best interest to approve the permit now or after a lease is negotiated.
The motion passed unanimously.
Case No. 07-14 A variance for placement of a 32'x16' golf ball net at 1931 Oak Glen Place in
the RA, Single Family Residential District, and any variances related thereto. Michael Kramer,
applicant. The applicant was present.
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• Mr. Pogge reviewed the request and noted the applicant is proposing to minimize the
appearance of the net as much as possible by tucking the net as close to the home as possible
and extending only the distance needed to protect the home from damage.
Mr. Kramer stated the netting would hardly be visible as it will be hidden behind trees and
placed close to the house. He stated that the house had to be re-sided due to some problems
with the original stucco. The stucco, he said, was able to withstand the golf ball hits, but the new
siding is being damaged. Ms. Block suggested this situation is a good case for setback
requirements from golf courses.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. No comments were received, and the hearing was
closed. Ms. Block, seconded by Mr. Wolden, moved approval as conditioned. Motion passed
unanimously.
Case No. 07-15 A request to rezone the property at 8262 and 8270 Neal Ave. N. from AP,
Agricultural Preservation, to RA, Single Family Residential. City of Stillwater, applicant.
Mr. Pogge reviewed the request. He noted the City purchased and later sold the parcels in
question. He said the parcels were marketed as buildable lots, but the City neglected to do the
necessary rezoning. He noted that the properties to the south and east are zoned RA.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. No comments were received, and the hearing was
closed. Ms. Block noted this seemed to be an administrative issue and moved approval. Mr.
• Carlsen seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
Case No. 07-07 Final approval of Phase I of Millbrook, a residential subdivision on TH96 west
of Neal Avenue. This case includes Final Plat approval for Millbrook (the first addition of the
project); final PUD approval for Phase I; a PUD amendment relating to townhome design; and
any variances related thereto. US Home Corporation , applicant.
Mr. Turnblad briefly reviewed the requests for final plat and final PUD approval for the Phase I
of the Millbrook development and a PUD amendment for the townhome design in the second
plat of Phase I. Mr. Turnblad noted there are two planned plats for Phase I. The MILLBROOK
(the 1s' addition in the project), which includes 30 single-family homes in the CR District
(Cottage Residential) and 33 homes in the TR (Traditional Residential) District. The second plat,
which will be known as MILLBROOK 2nd ADDITION would be for half of the project's
townhomes.
Mr. Middleton asked the applicant to address the changes and key issues since the last
meeting. Representing the applicant were Jay Liberacki and Teresa St. Amant. Also present
representing Lennar Corp. were Carol Griffith, sales manager for the East Metro Area, the sales
manager for Orrin Thompson and Mark Anderson, director with Lennar. Mr. Liberacki stated that
subsequent to the last meeting, they held a neighborhood meeting and provided neighbors with
a significant packet of materials. He said the representatives of the developer offered to meet
with neighbors at their homes or on site to provide a perspective of the view from their homes.
Mr. Liberacki stated two neighbors took advantage of the meeting, Orville Johnson and Ed Otis.
Regarding the requested townhome design change, Mr. Liberacki stated he thought the change
• improved the view from TH 96. He provided visuals of other townhome design and layout,
comparing the brownstones approved with the preliminary plat to the back-to-back townhome
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design being proposed now. He stated the Joint Board had reviewed the request and the
Township's representatives on the Board thought the current proposal appeared to be less of a
wall and was the preferred scenario. Mr. Liberacki also reviewed landscaping proposals to
break up the visual impact, along with colors and building materials to enhance the visual
variety. Ms. Block asked about the architectural details of the end units. Ms. St. Amant reviewed
some of the proposed detailing. Mr. Liberacki also stated they are looking into the possibility of
turning the entrance of the end units. Mr. Liberacki concluded that the developer believes the
design change is a positive one given this setting and more rural site. Mr. Kalmon asked about
the height of the townhomes compared to the nearby single-family homes. It was noted the
townhomes will be the same height or somewhat lower. Mr. Middleton said he liked the
proposed townhome design.
Mr. Liberacki addressed the proposed view of the CR district homes from the existing homes
located on Neal Avenue, noting that the closest home is 1,700 feet away and the shoreline is
wooded, which will minimize the visual impact during most of the year. He noted that based on
the experience in Liberty and other developments, it has been demonstrated that the one-story
homes, as originally proposed, do not sell well and have been replaced with two-story products.
Ms. St. Amant pointed out that the CR district products are in fact shallower than the previously
approved one-story homes, have less impervious surface and less visual square footage.
Ms. St. Amant also spoke about the proposed changes to the TR district homes. The
streetscape offered by the proposed four different TR district home products, with 16 different
elevations and variety of color packages. Ms. St. Amant described the "monotony code," which
. she said precludes homes of the same elevation from being located in any proximity to each
other.
Mr. Carlsen asked if there were any side-loaded garages in the original proposal. Ms. St. Amant
said there were none in the CR District, but there were some in the TR District in the original
proposal. Ms. St. Amant spoke to the marketing problems with the side-loaded garage related to
the larger footprint and cost per square footage, as well as the amount of impervious surface,
which makes it difficult for homeowners to make additional improvements to their homes. Ms.
Griffith addressed the changing market and demographics. Ms. St. Amant also stated she
thought the proposal meets City code regarding garages, as the garages are behind the front
porches not forward of the house.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. No comments were received, and the hearing was
closed. Mr. Middleton noted that Millbrook is a major project and has been in discussion for over
three years. Mr. Middleton agreed that the housing market has changed, and suggested the
developer is doing what is necessary to address the changing market. Mr. Middleton said he
thought the suggestion to move the entrance on the end units of the townhomes would be a
positive change.
Mr. Peroceschi moved to recommend approval of the final plat and PUD and townhome PUD
amendment as conditioned. Mr. Wolden seconded the motion for discussion.
Mr. Carlsen said he thought the proposal had become a "mess." He suggested the market is not
so different from when the designs were originally presented. He said originally, the community
• seemed to have a feeling of continuity, while now it appears to be piecemeal. Mr. Carlsen said
he was OK with the CR plans but disappointed with the TR and townhome proposals.
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. Ms. Block said she was frustrated with the whole approach. She said the Commission was
presented with a package and is now being "unsold" on that original package. Ms. Block also
spoke in favor of the suggested change to the design of the end units of the townhomes. Mr.
Wolden asked about the process for the other plats in the development. Mr. Turnblad noted that
what is approved at this time will appear throughout the entire development unless the
developer comes back and requests changes.
Mr. Middleton said he thought the townhomes design change looks better and noted the homes
are not as tall. He also said he thought the homes in the CR District fit the lots better - the
homes are narrower and no taller than the one-story products. Mr. Kalmon suggested providing
some kind of screening along the rear of those homes that will be visible to the existing homes
across South Twin Lake.
Motion to recommend approval as conditioned passed 5-1, with Mr. Carlsen voting no.
Case No. 07-09 Preliminary Planned Unit Development for a 50-lot development on 25.28
acres at 12525 75th St. N. and 12620 and 12550 72nd St. N.; a preliminary plat creating 50
single-family lots; zoning map amendment to rezone the property from AP, Agricultural
Preservation, to TR, Traditional Residential, and LR, Lakeshore Residential; and any variances
related thereto. Ed Dulak, Elite Development, applicant.
Mr. Pogge told the Commission that there have been some positive conversations with the DNR
regarding the possible purchase of the Jackson Wildlife Management Area and said he believes
there is a likelihood a purchase price can be negotiated that all parties will agree to. He also
noted that enabling legislation has been introduced in both houses of the state Legislature that
would permit the sale. Mr. Pogge stated staff's recommendation is approval of all the requests
except for the requested fence variance. Mr. Carlsen asked if access to Long Lake was still
unresolved. Mr. Pogge responded in the affirmative and noted the Park Board was concerned
about that issue as well.
Mr. Kalmon asked whether the Park Board had looked at the rationale of purchasing the
Jackson Wildlife Management Area when the DNR already owns the property and the area
currently is available as open space. Mr. Turnblad noted the DNR ownership is very restrictive.
If the City owns the land, it could put a trail connection through the property, a connection that is
included in the City's master trail plan, he noted. Mr. Dulak also suggested that the City would
be a better steward of the property, as the DNR has not maintained the area. Mr. Dulak also
addressed the issue of Long Lake access, stating that they are talking with the property owner
who has indicated he would work with them to provide a small area where someone could cast
a line into the water and enable the City to clear/maintain the weir. Mr. Kalmon asked if parking
would be provided. Mr. Dulak pointed out that the width of the road would not allow for parking
and noted that the Park Board wanted the access as more of a walking destination, with
perhaps a park bench provided.
Mr. Middleton noted that a concern had been raised in earlier discussions regarding another
north-south connection if Minor is extended through to County Road 12 (75th St. N.). He stated
he did not think that would be an issue as folks will likely use Northland for the north-south
route, and he said he thought this proposal would slow traffic on 72nd Street to Northland. He
noted that the only other change in the proposal was the location of the City well house.
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There was discussion of the requested wall/fence variance. Bob Wiegert, Paramount
Engineering, said there are three options - the requested variance for a wall to provide noise
mitigation, cutting down existing trees and creating a berm, or leaving the existing trees and
doing additional plantings to provide visual screening only. Mr. Middleton asked whether the
Commission could require natural screening as an alternative; it was noted that with a PUD, the
Commission has more latitude and could require that.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. No comments were received, and the hearing was
closed. Mr. Carlsen moved approval as conditioned, with the additional condition that the
developer utilize natural screening along 75`" St. N. and the development rather than a berm or
wall. Mr. Kalmon seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously. Mr. Wold, seconded by Mr.
Carlsen, moved to deny the requested fence variance. Motion passed unanimously.
OTHER BUSINESS
Annual review of seasonal plant sales Special Use Permits - Mr. Pogge stated there had
been no complaints regarding the operations of the two locations - Cub Foods and Linder's at
Valley Ridge Plaza - and renewal of the temporary permits is recommended as conditioned. Mr.
Middleton noted that a new fuel center had been approved for Cub Foods and asked whether
there was any timeframe for that project. Mr. Pogge said Cub is working with Target regarding
arrangements for that project. Ms. Block noted that signage was an issue last year. Mr. Pogge
said signage will be monitored to be sure the two sites are in compliance with City sign
regulations. There was a brief discussion regarding changes in state law regarding Special Use
Permits. Mr. Turnblad said staff would be preparing a report to the Commission and submit that
40 information later this year. Ms. Block moved to accept the review and approve the renewal of
the temporary permit as conditioned. Ms. Carlsen seconded the motion; motion passed
unanimously.
Annual review of the St. Croix Boat and Packet Co. and Gondola on the St. Croix
wharfage permits - Mr. Pogge noted that no complaints had been received and approval is
recommended. He pointed out there is no permit fee for the Gondola. Mr. Middleton, seconded
by Ms. Block, moved to approve the renewal of the wharfage permits for St. Croix Boat and
Packet Co. and the Gondola on the St. Croix. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Middleton informed staff that he had received a phone call concerning possible signage
violations related to a downtown condominium site.
Mr. Carlsen, seconded by Mr. Kalmon, moved to adjourn at 9:45 p.m. Motion passed
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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