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Planning Commission
January 8, 2007
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Present: Suzanne Block, Gregg Carlsen, Mike Dahlquist, Dan Kalmon, Brad
Middleton, David Peroceschi and Charles Wolden
Staff present: Community Development Director Bill Turnblad and Planner Mike
Acting chair Dave Middleton called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. and introdu
Charles Wolden.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Dahlquist, seconded by Ms. Block, moved approval of
December 11, 2006. Motion passed unanimously.
Meinke, Dave
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the minutes of
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. 07-03 A minor subdivision of one lot into two lots and a variance o the lot size
regulations at 108 and 110 W. Stillwater Ave. Keith and Deborah Kaehler, applica ts.
Mr. Pogge told the Commission that it has been determined a variance is not required, so the
Commission needs to take no action other than to open and close the publi hearing. The
Council will hear the subdivision request, he stated.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. No comments were received, and th hearing was
closed. The Council will hear the subdivision request at its first meeting in F bruary, it was
noted.
Case No. 07-04 A special use permit for a residential accessory use for clas room/meeting
rooms for Our Savior's Lutheran Church at 1514 W. Olive St. Curt Newcomb, app icant.
Mr. Pogge reviewed the request, staff findings and recommended conditions o
Dahlquist questioned how access would be provided to the church parking loi
access might be via a sidewalk/trail in the County's right-of-way or through an ad,
owner's rear yard. It was noted that a trail along Olive is shown in the County's m
also, it was noted the Church is still negotiating with the adjacent property owner
Wolden asked whether a sunset clause could be placed on the use, and Ms.
hours of operation could be controlled; Mr. Pogge responded in the affirn
questions. Mr. Newcomb pointed out that the Church plans to construct an expan
four years, and there is no intent to utilize the residence on a permanent basis -
to alleviate a temporary condition and return the house to residential use once
constructed. Mr. Newcomb said he would not object to a sunset provision an(
welcome such a condition. In response to a question about hours of use, Mr. Nev
house would be primarily used on Sunday mornings and Wednesday evenin
asked about the possibility of using a modular unit on site rather than the house;
said that would not be as good an option for the Church. Mr. Carlsen asked abou
number of people who might be using the space; Mr. Newcomb said the ma)
would be 25-30, but more likely 10-12 people would be present at one time. Mr.
about the status of negotiations with the adjacent property owner; Mr. Newcomb i
the Church believes an agreement can be worked out, and needs to know the use
one before committing to the purchase.
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Planning Commission
January 8, 2007
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. Kurt Weidler, 206 Greeley St. S.,
about the loss of housing stock, converting a residential property to a no
other comments were received, and the hearing was closed.
MS. Block said she thought there were other alternatives for accommodating i
Mr. Meinke and Mr. Peroceschi both expressed concern about safety/tral
Dahlquist also referred to a safety concern created by having to cross Brick
street, to get to the Church, and said he favored adding a sunset clause to ar
approval. Mr. Kalmon noted he is a member of the Church and spoke in favor c
clause and limiting hours of operation. Mr. Carlsen suggested adding a corn
review upon complaint.
Mr. Carlsen moved approval with the four conditions as recommended by
additional condition that the use (special use permit) sunset as of Dec. 31,
structure revert to residential use or be reviewed at that time; that the hours
limited to 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.; and that the special use permit be reviewed upor
Dahlquist seconded the motion. Motion passed 5-3, with Ms. Block, Mr. N
Peroceschi voting no.
Case No. 07-01 Final plat and final planned unit development approval for a 15-
on 8.9 acres (Brown's Creek Reserve) in the TR/PUD, Transitional Resident
• Freeman, Folz, Freeman, Erickson, Inc.
A representative of Folz, Freeman, Erickson was present. Mr. Turnblad review
previous approvals given the development. He noted that the final plat/PUD is nE
the preliminary plat approved by the Commission and Council. Mr. Turnblad h
conditions of approval (No. 2, approval by the DNR regional hydrologist, No. 8,
Board approval of the revised trail plan, and No. 9, City Forester appro,
replacement plan) which have been verbally OK'd but must receive formal appri
Council approval of the plat/PUD.
Ms. Block asked how the City would enforce covenants preventing property own
vegetation that might impact Brown's Creek; Mr. Turnblad explained th
agreement provides for conservation easements, which are enforceable. Ms.
there was any way to require that construction be concluded by a certain tim
explained that the development agreement provides a timeframe for the comp
and other infrastructure, but there is no way to require a property owner to cons
a certain time or prevent a lot from being sold. Mr. Carlsen asked about
connection to Neal Avenue; Mr. Turnblad stated there is no exact timeframe ;
developers are involved, but the development agreement provides that the me
remove the temporary road connection be placed in escrow until such time as th
Millbrook development is completed.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. No comments were received, and t
closed. Mr. Dahlquist noted that nothing significant had changed since prelimine
• and moved final approval of the plat and PUD with the conditions as recommern
Peroceschi seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
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Planning Commission
January 8, 2007
Case No. 07-02 Subdivision for Fairway Villas of Stillwater, a 24-lot preliminary plat subdivision,
a Comprehensive Plan amendment, related variances, and zoning map amendment to rezone
the property at 1902 N. William St. from RA, single-family residential, to RB, two-family
residential. MBM Development, Bob Clark, applicant.
Mr. Turnblad briefly reviewed the site and proposal to construct 12 structures, 24 twin homes.
He noted the property currently is zoned RA and is surrounded by RA zoned properties. To
allow development of the twin homes as proposed, the property needs to be rezoned to RB; all
minimum standards are met for the rezoning of the property, he said. The bigger issue for the
Commission to consider, he pointed out, is whether the two-family use is compatible by the
surrounding neighborhood. There was a question about how many homes could be constructed
on the parcel if the zoning remains as is; 18 single-family homes could be constructed, it was
noted. Ms. Block asked if the Commission could reduce the number of allowable single-family
homes. Mr. Turnblad spoke briefly to the issue of property owners' rights and buyers' rights
based on expectations of current zoning and existing ordinances.
Bob Clark, Lynskey & Clark and MBM Development, pointed out to address concerns about
density raised in the earlier discussions, the number of proposed units has been reduced from
26 to 24 units, one less building. Mr. Clark stated the developers feel strongly that their proposal
will have less of a visual impact on the neighborhood and golf course than if the property is
developed with single-family homes. Mr. Clark also noted that the infrastructure is in place to
• serve the development, and the development is consistent with other multi-family uses in the
area around the golf course. Marc Putnam, planner for the developers, showed a video
incorporating the grading plan with graphics of the split roadway, retaining walls, plantings,
pavilion, and housing styles. Mr. Wolden questioned the height of the homes; Mr. Putnam
reiterated the twin-homes are one floor less than single-family homes and will be less visible to
the neighborhood. Ms. Block asked whether a golf course tee box was in fact located on the
site; Mr. Clark explained that situation has been resolved with an exchange of property. Mr.
Dahlquist questioned setbacks; Mr. Clark stated all setback requirements are met. Mr. Kalmon
suggested that the building footprint is clearly different than the surrounding neighborhood.
Mr. Middleton opened the public hearing. It was noted for the record that letters opposing the
proposal had been received from James and Betty Sievert, 1615 N. Second St.; Richard and
Julie Paukert, 202 W. Hazel St.; and Jim and Marilyn Meier, 405 W. Hazel St.
Brian Larson, 2008 Hazel Court, spoke of planning principles and noted that a primary focus of
the City's infill design guidelines is how a proposal fits in with the surrounding neighborhood -
this proposal does not fit with the neighborhood, he said. He noted this proposal would require a
change to the Comprehensive Plan, something that should be done only under extraordinary
circumstances. He spoke to the sensitivity of the area due to its topography and natural
resources. He questioned the traffic counts provided by the developer. He further suggested
that the developer had exaggerated "how bad" single-family homes would look and suggested
that there are other options. He provided a graphic of the existing pattern of buildings, the
pattern of buildings as proposed, and what he called a more realistic footprint, nine homes on
20,000 square foot lots.
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Planning Commission
January 8, 2007
James Purcell, 2001 Hazel Court, called the proposal inconsistent with the neighborhood, a
neighborhood that has a variety of architectural styles, while the video of the proposal showed
houses all of the same style with lots of garages. He said the traffic impact of the development
would be "enormous" relative to the existing traffic. He stated his concerns were based on
aesthetics, the character of the neighborhood and traffic issues.
Scott Junker, 1802 N. Fourth St., questioned whether the developers were aware of the fees
they would have to pay. He also suggested precedent had been set in the denial of two
development proposals he had put forth in the recent past.
Dick Paukert, 303 W. Hazel, pointed out that a number of property owners in the area had
signed covenants that the area remain RA, single-family.
Andrew Jenks, 1209 N. Second St., expressed a concern about the potential traffic impact,
noting that Second Street is the main connector street for the area in question.
Tamara Curtis, 122 Hazel St. W., said she was opposed to the proposal. She questioned
whether she would be able to get out of her driveway should the proposal be allowed. She also
stated the neighboring Dutchtown area is "special" and needs to be preserved.
Mary Harycki, 2004 Hazel Court, urged the Commission to do what is right for this are and
. consider the Comprehensive Plan and the nature of the neighborhood. Less is better, she
suggested.
Claude Klivett, 1912 N. Fifth St., expressed a concern about traffic.
James Libby, 203 W. Hazel, spoke of the issue of compatibility with the surrounding
neighborhood. He also spoke to the trend in urban planning which promotes lower density and
greater lot sizes as one radiates from a city's center.
The resident of 14411 Dellwood Road, spoke of the history of the area and land around Brown's
Creek. He stated that in the Orderly Annexation process and development of the City's
Comprehensive Plan, the area was purposely designated large-lot, single-family to provide a
buffer zone around Brown's Creek and a buffer between the City and the Township. He spoke
of concerns about the water and other natural resources in the area.
No other comments were received, and the hearing was closed. The development team was
given an opportunity to address questions. Mr. Putnam addressed the question about traffic
counts, providing sources for the cited statistics, and stated they would support an independent
traffic study if the City/Commission desires. Mr. Putnam also addressed comments regarding
density. "less is better," and suggested that it is the structure density that determines the look
and feel of a place.
Mr. Clark addressed other questions/comments. He stated they agree with the need to protect
the beauty of the area and the need to protect Brown's Creek and will do everything they can to
• control runoff and protect the area. He stated the covenants, referred to by one of the speakers,
do not apply to this property. He stated they are aware of the fees associated with developing
the property and reiterated that they would support an independent traffic study.
Discussion was returned to the table. Ms. Block asked about the 20,000 square-foot, large lot
size referred to in several comments. Mr. Turnblad explained that in the Comprehensive Plan,
single-family, large-lot coincides with the RA District, areas such as Croixwood and Oak Glen
developments with a density of about 2.8 units per acre. The 20,000 square-foot, large lot
designation has to do with lakeshore overlay districts; Brown's Creek is not in that type of
overlay district. The Comprehensive Plan currently indicates this area as zoned RA. The
Comprehensive Plan issue arises if and when the area is rezoned; to develop the site as RB,
the Comprehensive Plan would need to be changed, he explained.
Mr. Carlsen noted that both the neighbors and landowners in this instance have certain
expectation, and while he said they thought there are benefits in the twin-home concept, he
spoke in favor of leaving things as they are, keeping the expectations as they are. Mr. Dahlquist
suggested that the City needs a larger lot designation to provide for transition as parcels come
into the City and said perhaps a new larger-lot zoning designation may come about in the
upcoming Comprehensive Plan update. While not excited about the possibility of single-family
development on the parcel, Mr. Dahlquist said he would prefer to wait and see how the Comp
Plan update plays out.
Mr. Meinke said if the property does get developed, he would prefer the twin-home concept over
18 single-family structures, but said he didn't like the idea of changing the Comprehensive Plan.
Mr. Kalmon said he did not like the current zoning and noted there is the potential for other lots
in the neighborhood to subdivide, but said he would rather address that in the Comprehensive
Plan process. He stated unique, sensitive areas such as this need a larger lot designation, and
he said the twin-homes are obviously not a fit with the neighborhood.
Mr. Peroceschi moved to recommend to the Council that all four requests related to Case No.
07-02 be denied. Mr. Carlsen seconded the motion. Mr. Middleton stated that if he lived in the
neighborhood, he would prefer the twin-home concept as having less of an impact and being
less visible. Mr. Wolden agreed that the twin-homes might make the best of the situation with
some enhancements by the developers. Mr. Kalmon spoke to the sensitivity of the area and
traffic impacts and said the developer is not offering anything to mitigate the impact. Ms. Block
spoke of concerns about the proximity to the golf course and stated she likes Mr. Larson's plan.
Motion to deny the four requests passed 5-3, with Mr. Meinke, Mr. Middleton and Mr. Wolden
voting against denial. Mr. Turnblad noted that the variance is denied at the Commission level,
the Comprehensive Plan amendment, rezoning and preliminary plat are recommendations to
the Council. He stated the Council will consider this case at its February 6, 2007 meeting, the
Park Board at its January 22, 2007 meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
Cablecasting Commission meetings - Mr. Middleton told members the Council is considering
having Planning Commission and other Commission meetings cablecast and asked members
about their views on the matter. Mr. Dahlquist stated Oak Park Heights airs its Commission
meetings and said there is a great deal of public interest in the meetings. There was a question
about cost. Mr. Turnblad said staff if checking into that issue.
• Comprehensive Plan consultant selection - Mr. Middleton said the Council has asked that a
representative of the Planning Commission and other Commissions/Boards assist in the
• selection of the consulting firm for the Comprehensive Plan update. Mr. Kalmon volunteered to
serve as the Commission's representative.
Election of chair and vice chair - Mr. Peroceschi nominated Mr. Middleton to serve as chair for
2007 and Mr. Turnquist as vice chair. Mr. Meinke seconded the motion; motion passed
unanimously.
Ms. Block, seconded by Mr. Kalmon, moved to adjourn at 10:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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