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City of Stillwater
Planning Commission
November 13, 2006
Present: Robert Gag, Chairman, Suzanne Block, Gregg Carlsen, Mike Dahlqu
Dan Kalmon, Brad Meinke, Dave Middleton, and David Peroceschi
Others: Community Development Director Turnblad and Planner Pogge
Approval of minutes: The minutes of October 9, 2006, were approved as sub
David Junker,
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. SUP/06-56 An amendment to a special use permit for the transfer of ownership of a
bed and breakfast (James Mulvey Inn) at 622 W. Churchill St. in the RB, Two Family Residential
District. Cynthia Hannig, applicant.
The applicant was present. Mr. Pogge reviewed the reques and staff
findings/recommendations.
Ms. Hannig is requesting to convert one of the two existing family rooms to anoth r guest room,
bringing the total number of guest rooms to five. She stated that a minimum of fie guest rooms
is necessary in order to make the operation successful. In addition, Ms. Hannig asked that she
have the ability to rent out rooms in the carriage house on the property from time to time. The
former owners of the James Mulvey Inn, Truett and Jill Lawson, will retain ownership of the
carriage house. Ms. Hannig said the occasional use of the carriage house rooms would be done
in cooperation with the Lawsons.
Mr. Gag opened the public hearing. Truett Lawson, previous owner, spoke in favor of the
requested transfer and reviewed some of the history of their operation of the Ja es Mulvey Inn.
Mr. Lawson stated while they have no interest in operating a competing B&B, they would be
open to the James Mulvey Inn utilizing a room(s) from time to time.
No other comments were received, and the hearing was closed. There was s me discussion
about the number of parking spaces provided. There was discussion abou two separate
properties/owners operating the same B&B - renting out rooms to the other owner. Mr.
Dahlquist wondered if that type of arrangement would run counter to the ordinance requirement
regarding the 900' distance between B&Bs; Mr. Kalmon said he thought the proposed
arrangement supported the opportunity for both properties to remain stable, w II-kept historic
structures.
Mr. Dahlquist moved approval of the requested transfer of ownership (spe ial use permit
amendment) with the 16 conditions of approval as recommended by staff, wit an additional
condition that should the carriage house at 807 Harriet St. S. be purchased b the applicant,
the applicant can use two of the rooms in the carriage house as guest rooms f :)r the Bed and
Breakfast. Motion was seconded and passed unanimously.
Case No. SUP/06-58 A special use permit for Crabtree Lawyers and Clinic Doctor Inc. at 610 N.
Main Street, #300, in the CBD, Central Business District. Larry D. Grell, applicant
Mr. Pogge reviewed the request and staff findings/recommendations. There wa? discussion of
the availability of parking in the development. The applicant was present.
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Mr. Gag opened the public hearing. Ned Gordon, president of the 61 Homeowners
Association, said the Association had no objection to the proposal. He di speak to the
availability of parking, noting that generally there is sufficient parking; it was also noted that
public parking is available across the street. No other comments were received, and the hearing
was closed.
Mr. Middleton, seconded by Ms. Block, moved approval as conditioned. otion passed
unanimously.
Case No. CPA/ZAM/ZAT/06-53 A Comprehensive Plan Amendment, Zoning M p Amendment
and Zoning Text Amendment to create a new zoning district for lots 1,3,5,6,7, ,9,10,11,12, 13
and 14, Block 10, Greeley and Slaughters Addition to Stillwater, (110 S. Greeley St.) in the RB,
Two Family Residential District. Timothy Freeman, representing Heidi Rosebud, applicant.
Mr. Peroceschi asked what the applicant's original request was that prompted the proposal for
rezoning. Mr. Freeman explained that the original request had to do with an expansion of the
spa portion of Ms. Rosebud's business. With that expansion, there was discussion of parking
needs. In the initial discussions with staff, Mr. Freeman said they were made ware that they
would not be able to do anything without creating a conforming use out of what is now a legal,
non-conforming use. He noted there are many other similar situations in the City and this is an
issue that needs to be addressed. Mr. Freeman said staff told them that due to time constraints,
the only way changes would be made was if someone came forward with a proposal. Ms. Block
said it would be nice for the Commission to know Ms. Rosebud's vision for the
properties/business.
Mr. Pogge reviewed the requests the Commission made at its initial hearing on this matter - a
definition of "Neighborhood Business Use; list of existing commercial uses in residential areas;
and how to address issues related to expansion/growth of a business in a Neighborhood
Business District - and staff response to those requests as listed in the agenda packet. Mr.
Pogge reviewed the draft ordinance, which would create a Neighborhood Business District; he
noted that the ordinance does not address B&B operations. Mr. Pogge no ed if the new
Neighborhood Business District zoning is adopted, existing property owners would have to
apply for the new zoning and would be considered on a case-by-case basis.
It was decided to handle the three actions - Zoning Text Amendment, Comprehensive Plan
Amendment and Zoning Map Amendment - separately. Mr. Gag opened the hearing to
comment regarding the Zoning Text Amendment. Mr. Freeman suggested item 2a in the draft,
which lists the specific properties, is not necessary and inconsistent with 2b. Mr. Freeman also
noted that the draft in item 2d limits any other properties from being designate Neighborhood
Commercial in the future. Mr. Freeman also suggested item 4b seemed overly punitive -
requiring a Conditional Use Permit amendment to allow reconstruction due to catastrophic
occurrences.
Mr. Gag opened the meeting to public comment regarding the Zoning Text Amendment.
Don Empson, 1206 N. Second St., pointed out the City recently adopted a? Neighborhood
Conservation District. He expressed a concern that the proposed ordinance was of in the spirit
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of the Conservation District and would be the first step in allowing expansion
development, with the potential for the demolition of homes to allow for such
Empson also suggested that the term "neighborhood business" is a misnomer,
does not truly serve the neighborhood residents.
of commercial
expansion. Mr.
is the business
Susanna Patterson, 1018 W. Olive St., raised the issue of spot zoning. Ms. Patterson also
questioned why notices of this meeting had not been sent to potentially affected residents. Mr.
Pogge pointed out that this matter had been continued from the October meeting
Ted Gillen, 1011 W. Myrtle St., expressed a concern that this would open the door for
expanding beyond the original properties. Expanding without control, he said, oes not serve
the people of this community.
Susan Sidoti Gorodisher, May Township, fitness director for the Stillwater itness Center,
attested that, contrary to the point made by Mr. Empson, many people from tie surrounding
neighborhood walk to the Fitness Center and the Center certainly is a "neighbor ood business."
She spoke in favor of Ms. Rosebud's request and shared her experience as member and
employee of the Stillwater Fitness Center, as well as her perspective as a reside t of the greater
Stillwater community. She spoke of Ms. Rosebud's contributions to the community.
Mike McCarthy, 410 Linden St. W., stated he purchased his residence based on the
understanding that his home was located in a residential neighborhood, and he suggested that
his purchase represented an agreement with the City and obligation on the pa of the City to
protect his residential neighborhood. Mr. McCarthy also noted that a business owner has a
choice of location and if the choice is in an existing residential neighborhood that limits the
opportunity for expansion. He also described recent changes to the neighborhood immediately
adjacent to the Fitness Center/Spa. He suggested that the proposed ordinance's purpose is to
grow commercial enterprises and expand them in residential neighborhood, something that
undermines other property owners' property values and property rights.
Ryan Bakke, 114 S. Owens St., said he believed the fitness center and spa serve the
community and questioned how the three homes involved in the current request ould serve the
community.
Kurt Weidler, 206 S. Greeley St., expressed a concern that the proposed use o the properties
would change the character of the neighborhood.
There was a question whether the proposed ordinance would affect all other suc businesses in
town and whether notices should have been sent to residents living near other existing
businesses. Mr. Pogge noted the ordinance would affect all other businesses, but the zoning
would not change, requests for zoning changes would be done by request/application, at which
time notices would be sent to neighboring property owners.
Ann Terwedo, 1408 W. Linden St., spoke in support of Ms. Rosebud's request.
a member of the Fitness Center and does walk to the Center, making it a truly
business. Ms. Terwedo noted that the existing "neighborhood" businesses identil
located in four distinct neighborhoods and said she would like the Commission 1
areas separately -- look at the architecture and patterns of development in the
and future expansion issues and how those relate to the neighborhoods.
She said she is
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• Dick Reed, 118 S. Owens St., spoke in favor or orderly growth and due pry
favor of protecting what we have, growing what we have, and developing
done in the context of a master plan.
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we have, all
No other comments were received, and the discussion was returned to the Co mission table.
Mr. Pogge reviewed the questions before the Commission regarding growth expansion and
addressed some of the comments related to the Conservation District and the potential for
demolition of homes. Mr. Pogge also briefly reviewed the language of the proposed draft
ordinance. It was noted that should the ordinance be adopted there would be eparate public
hearings for each of the existing neighborhood businesses that request a rezoning under the
ordinance. Mr. Junker spoke of the changes to the neighborhood businesses tha have occurred
over time and suggested that developing a neighborhood district plan will be a time-consuming
task. Mr. Junker suggested addressing issues related to Ms. Rosebud's request and this
specific site might be better done through a new conditional use permit. There as discussion
as to what prompted the 2002 change in the zoning code that eliminated the ability to issue
special use permits for commercial uses in Two-Family Residential District. Mr. Dahlquist said
he would like to hear from the other existing "neighborhood" business owners and what they
have to say about the proposed ordinance. There was a question as to how o return to the
previous process that was utilized before the zoning change of 2002; Mr. Tu nblad said the
Commission could recommend that action to the Council.
Mr. Kalmon said the proposed text amendment represented a more comprehensive plan
approach than action on a case-by-case basis. Mr. Pogge said he thought the proposed text
amendment was more protective of neighborhoods than returning to allowing special use
permits in the RB District. Mr. Gag noted that the City's Comprehensive Plan will be updated in
2007 and perhaps this is an issue that can be worked on in that process. In the interim, Mr. Gag
said the Commission could recommend the Council return to the previous process of
considering special use permits in the RB District. Mr. Dahlquist spoke against opening up the
potential for more commercial requests in the RB District. Mr. Carlsen agreed with the need for
more information regarding what prompted the change in 2002. Mr. Kalmon asked about the
process/consequence of tabling or denying the request altogether. Mr. Pogge s oke of the 60-
day rule and noted that the Commission would have to take some action a its December
meeting unless the applicant agreed to another extension of the 60-day rule. Ms Block said she
thought the proposed ordinance, allowing limited expansion within the confine of the existing
property, would keep homeowners secure in the knowledge that their neighborhood block would
not be eaten up by one business, yet it allows a business to make changes t their property,
which they currently cannot do. Ms. Block moved to adopt the zoning text amendment with the
limited expansion. Mr. Kalmon seconded the motion, adding that any expan ion beyond as
indicated in the ordinance would have to go through a neighborhood approval/ review process.
Mr. Pogge noted that such a process is required in the draft ordinance. Mr. Kalm n withdrew the
amendment to his second. Mr. Dahlquist asked whether uses such as Bed & Breakfast should
be excluded. Mr. Dahlquist suggested that "normal wear and tear" be stricken f om item 4b; he
also questioned the regulations regarding signs as listed in item 3b and whether that is
restrictive enough. Mr. Turnblad explained that item 3b is based on the most restrictive signage
regulations, those of the Central Business District. Mr. Freeman noted that under the limited
growth policy, the applicant will not be able to do anything she is seeking to do with her
property. Mr. Dahlquist noted that the ordinance, as proposed, includes a list of specific
properties, a list that does not include the piece of property where Ms. Rosebud's parking lot
would eventually be located. Mr. Pogge noted that the list of properties could b amended after
requested rezoning changes.
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Mr. Carlsen said he did not feel comfortable with adopting the ordinance at thi:
agreed that this is a complicated issue that deserves more time before making
Junker also spoke in favor of spending more time on this issue. Motion to apps
text amendment failed by unanimous vote. Mr. Middleton moved to continue th
December meeting and call for a special meeting prior to the regular Decem
address this issue. Mr. Carlsen seconded the motion. Staff was reques
information regarding the 2002 zoning change, who made the decision, whethl
Commission was involved, whether public hearings were held. Ms. Block wonder
other 18 business owners should be informed of the meeting; during disc
suggested that the other owners will not be affected by the ordinance - they
zoning change. Motion to table passed unanimously. Mr. Turnblad suggested &
taken up at the next regular Planning Commission if possible. Motion was ma
unanimously to table this matter to the regular Planning Commission of Dec. 11.
OTHER BUSINESS
Concept discussion for the Hazel Street golf course neighborhood
Design, Lynskey & Clark Companies, applicants.
Mr. Turnblad reviewed the site and the developer's preference for the two-fami
would result in 13 structures, with a total of 26 households. Mr. Turnbl;
Comprehensive Plan and Single Family Large Lot (SFLL) classificati(
inconsistencies in the properties that have been held to the SFLL standard
• size of 20,000 square feet. The staff report also provided options for
inconsistencies.
Marc Putnam reviewed plans. He spoke of the topography and slopes on the s
18 home sites have been identified, but noted that the single-family market
perhaps in part due to the aging population. He said it is the development
"two-family homes in one-family clothing" is the right approach for the
drawings of such homes and possible road layout. There were questions abo
whether the building sites would meet the City's slope ordinance.
Mr. Kalmon asked about the tree inventory and the number of trees that woL
There was discussion about the property to the east and whether that would evE
Mr. Carlsen said he liked the idea of having a duplex situation that is a little moi
he was concerned about the dominance of the garage appearance; he suggestE
loading. Mr. Kalmon said in neighborhood meetings related to the sewer proj(
strong consensus in favor of narrow roads, the prominence/visibility of vegetatio
rural feeling of the neighborhood. Mr. Kalmon said he didn't think the d
streetscape and proposed road layout fit the existing neighborhood; Mr. Putnam
the road is as narrow as City staff will allow. Mr. Kalmon also spoke to drainag
there are serious erosion problems in the area. Mr. Putnam noted the rules they
are much higher, regarding rate and volume, than for existing neighborhoods.
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Mr. Peroceschi said he would favor keeping the area RA. Mr. Kalmon expre sed a concern
about density. Mr. Dahlquist noted that if the density was reduced, the developer might be able
• to address the concern about the appearance of the garages, perhaps some could be side
loaded rather than side by side front loading, and fit the lay of the land better. Mr. Dahlquist said
he was intrigued with the dual-family concept, as it is a housing stock type that i needed in the
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City. Mr. Middleton said he thought the RB zoning would be fine; he spoke of the demand for
the proposed housing type and noted the development would not be highly isible from the
road. Mr. Middleton said he was unsure about the proposed number of units. Ms Block spoke of
conflicting information, such as affordability and the estimated cost of the units; she also
questioned the elevation from the golf course, which she said appears to e a three-story
structure, not a twin-home. Ms. Block said she was open to either concept - single-family or
dual-family -- at this point.
Mick Lynskey addressed the density issue by suggesting that the 13 twin-I
represent less density than the 18 potential single-family structures. Bob Clai
looked at ways to have less impact on the neighborhood and less struct
Commission members to walk the property. Mr. Peroceschi said if you walk tl
hard to believe it would be possible to build 18 houses on the site. Mr. Meinke
the twin-homes look less dense. Mr. Kalmon asked if the developer had looked
such as clustering. Mr. Kalmon said he didn't think going to RB would be a pi
the development is designed that is the issue.
Mr. Gag asked for a straw vote; the straw vote indicated that the majority of
would be open to the dual-home concept.
Case No. ZAT/06-05 This case was continued to the December meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
The meeting was adjourned at 11:30 p.m.
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