HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-08-09 CPC MIN• City of Stillwater
Planning Commission
August 9, 2004
Present: Robert Gag, chair
Mike Dahlquist, David Junker, Dave Middleton, David Peroceschi,
Karl Ranum, Paul Teske and Jerry Turnquist
Others: Community Development Director Steve Russell
Absent: Darwin Wald
Mr. Gag called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Teske, seconded by Mr. Middleton, moved to approve the
minutes of July 12, 2004; motion passed unanimously.
Case No. V/04-54 A variance to the street side yard setbacks (30 feet required, 5'6" and
2' requested) for construction of a detached garage at 628 S. Third St. in the RB, Two
Family Residential District. Kenneth and Joan Fixmer, applicants.
Kenneth Fixmer and his son, Don, reviewed the request. The Fixmers stated that since the
discussion at the July meeting, the orientation of the garage has been changed so access is
• from the north. Mr. Junker noted that the change eliminates the previous concern about
parking on the sidewalk.
Mr. Turnquist moved approval as conditioned; Mr. Teske seconded the motion. There
was some discussion about restoring the curb where the former driveway was located.
Mr. Fixmer questioned whether that was his responsibility; he also stated he had been
told the city plans to redo the street in the near future. Mr. Peroceschi suggested adding a
condition that the applicant be required to remove the asphalt between the curb and
sidewalk at the location of the former garage. Mr. Turnquist and Mr. Teske agreed to the
additional condition. Motion with the additional condition passed unanimously.
Case No. V/04-64 A variance to the natural area setback requirement (50 feet required)
for construction of a pool at 3521 Eben Way in the TR, Traditional Residential District.
Shelly Tompkins, representing Jim and Sarah Parks.
Jim and Sarah Parks appeared before the Commission. They provided a written
chronology of events that included receiving approval of the Liberty architectural review
committee and issuance of a building permit and construction of the pool before being
notified the pool did not meet the setback requirements. They stated there were unaware
there was a conservation setback when they purchased the property in 1999 and stated
they had tried to comply with all city requirements.
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Mr. Teske said it appears the applicants made every effort to do the right thing, but there
were some "miss-steps" on the part of the city. He asked about the development's
architectural review committee process. Mr. Russell stated this was the first project the
committee had reviewed. Previously, Mr. Russell stated the city had a representative on
the committee; now the committee is composed of residents, with assistance from the
property management firm of Durand & Associates. Mr. Russell said in future, the city
needs to oversee the architectural committee's review. Mr. Teske suggested that should
be formalized as a policy.
Mr. Middleton suggested that a porch on a house adjacent to the Parks looks like it is
closer to the wetlands than the pool. Mr. Middleton moved approval as conditioned. Mr.
Teske seconded the motion.
Mr. Dahlquist pointed out that hardship in granting the variance can't be monetary; he
suggested this might be an issue for the Council to address. Mr. Turnquist said he was
concerned about setting a precedent in waiving wetland requirements.
Motion to grant the variance as conditioned passed 6-2, with Mr. Dahlquist and Mr.
Turnquist voting no.
Case No. V/04-67 A variance to the front yard setback (30 feet required, 25 feet
requested) for construction of a deck at 1327 W. Ramsey St. in the RA, Single Family
Residential District. Cross River Builder, applicant.
Tom Larson, homeowner, was present. He stated he didn't think he needed a variance for
the deck since he already had been granted a front yard variance for the house. Mr.
Peroceschi asked why the deck couldn't be moved back three feet as suggested by staff.
Mr. Larson stated that would create a problem with an existing patio door. It was noted a
variance would still be required if the deck was moved three feet. Several members
suggested that the deck might look better squared off as the applicant was requesting.
Mr. Teske, seconded by Mr. Peroceschi, moved approval as conditioned; motion passed
unanimously.
Case No. SV/04-68 A request to vacate the unopened portion of Third Street North
between Elm Street on the south (vacated) and Aspen Street on the north and that portion
of Third Street North abutting Blocks 4 and 5 of Carli & Schulenberg's Addition. Jessica
Lange and Josephine Kiel, petitioners.
Sharon O'Flanagan, Coldwell Banker, was present representing petitioner Lange. She
noted the area that is requested to be vacated is primarily a deep ravine. She provided
photos of the area.
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Speaking in opposition were Bob Lockyear, 1016 N. Third St.; Don Empson, 1206 N.
Second St.; Pat Sullivan, 921 N. Fourth St.; Bill Fermolz, 202 W. Aspen St.; and Adam
Rix, 924 N. Fourth St.
Mr. Lockyear noted that the city had already vacation a portion of Elm Street at the
request of Ms. Lange. He suggested the portion of the street in question could be a critical
connection in the city's trail system and spoke of the opportunity to preserve the space
for the future.
Mr. Empson, local historian, provided a handout and spoke of the history of street
vacations. He said ghost streets are dedicated to the public, and it must be a benefit to the
public for those streets to be vacated. He, too, urged preserving the land for the future.
Mr. Junker questioned the viability of a trail use for that property. He noted vacation
would not result in any property being landlocked and stated he would have no problem
vacating that portion of Third Street. Mr. Middleton referred to the City Engineer's letter
which recommends retaining the right-of-way for drainage and utility easements but
which indicated there are no plans for future street improvements and which also speaks
to the difficulty of constructing a trail in that location.
Mr. Ranum pointed out that five years ago he would never have envisioned a trail in
Mulberry Ravine, a trail that is now a reality. Mr. Teske and Mr. Dahlquist also spoke in
favor of retaining the land for possible future needs.
Mr. Junker moved to recommend approval of the street vacation; Mr. Middleton
seconded the motion. Motion failed 2-6, with Mr. Junker and Mr. Middleton voting in
favor.
Case No. SUP/04-69 A special use permit for a hot dog vending cart at 204 N. Main St.
in the CDB, Central Business District. Todd Romocky and Bev Krieger, applicants.
The applicants were present. Mr. Middleton clarified that there will be no seating outside
of the fenced area at the location. It was noted the vending cart is a mobile cart and will
be taken from the site each night.
Mr. Peroceschi moved approval as conditioned; Mr. Turnquist seconded the motion. Mr.
Ranum suggested adding a condition that there be no seating outside the fenced area or
on the sidewalks. Mr. Peroceschi did not feel that language was necessary.
Mr. Dahlquist asked about the vending license process. Mr. Russell stated the city does
• not issue licenses. However, he said the use will be reviewed by the Washington County
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Public Health Department. Ms. Krieger stated they have a license from the state
Department of Health. Mr. Dahlquist questioned whether the special use permit should be
issued for a specified amount of time. Mr. Russell stated that generally, such permits are
reviewed after one year and thereafter upon complaint. Mr. Ranum suggested adding the
annual review and upon complaint language as a condition of approval. Mr. Peroceschi
and Mr. Turnquist agreed to that language. Amended motion passed unanimously.
Case No. V/04-70 A variance to the front yard setback (30 feet required, 27 feet
requested) for replacement of the roof at 123 Birchwood Dr. in the RA, Single Family
Residential District. Diannia and Gary Midbrod, applicants.
Ms. Midbrod explained that they plan to remodel their home. The plans include replacing
the existing roof with a higher pitched roof to accommodate cathedral ceilings. As
proposed, the new roof would encroach into the required setback and require a 16"
variance. She stated the requested setback is consistent with other homes in the
neighborhood.
Mr. Turnquist, seconded by Mr. Teske, moved approval as conditioned. Motion passed
unanimously.
Case No. V/04-71 A variance to the rear yard setback (25 feet required, 19 feet
requested) for construction of an addition at 1966 Tuenge Dr. in the RB, Two Family
Residential District. Mike Brabender, applicant.
Mr. Brabender was present. He explained he wants to replace an existing deck with a
sunroom. He said he had spoken with neighbors, none of whom objected to his plans.
Speaking in favor of the plans were neighbors Cathy Tollerud, 1956 Tuenge Dr., and
Marlene Ritzer, 1976 Tuenge Dr.
Mr. Ranum questioned whether granting the variance would be setting a precedent,
noting that both Ms. Tollerud and Ms. Ritzer said they would like to have similar
additions. Mr. Turnquist pointed out the precedent has already been set, as homes in the
second phase of the development were constructed with the sunrooms that Mr. Brabender
is requesting to construct.
Mr. Ranum suggested that the hardship in granting the variance is that the homes in the
second phase of the development include the requested addition.
Mr. Peroceschi, Mr. Teske and Mr. Dahlquist all expressed a concern about the loss of
open space in a planned development such as this.
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Mr. Turnquist moved approval as conditioned; Mr. Middleton seconded the motion.
Motion passed 5-3, with Mr. Dahlquist, Mr. Peroceschi and Mr. Teske voting no.
Case No. V/04-72 This case was tabled.
Case No. V/04-73 A variance to the front yard setback (30 feet required, 21 feet
requested) to construct an upper level deck on an existing residence at 1521 W. Olive St.
in the RA, Two Family Residential District. Kirk Roetman, applicant.
Mr. Roetman was present. He noted his house is on a corner lot. The back, with the deck,
will match the front in design.
Mr. Turnquist moved to approve the requested variance; Mr. Dahlquist seconded the
motion. Motion passed unanimously.
Case No. V/04-74 A variance to uses for office use at 901 Third St. S. in the RB, Two
Family Residential District. Mark Weyer, applicant.
Mark Weyer was present. He stated he has a purchase agreement to buy the property. As
proposed, the building would house his insurance agency. He said the use would not
generate a lot of traffic, with hours of 9-5, Monday through Friday. He said any other
building tenant would be a similar use. He noted that this building has always been a
commercial type use - grocery, union hall, and most recently, a church. Six parking
spaces would be added at the rear of the building. Plans also call for adding windows in
the building.
Ellie Samuelson, 904 S. Third St., said she has no objections to the insurance use but has
strong objections to the grocery store proposal (Case V/04-72).
Frank Nauss, 906 S. Third St., also stated his objections to a grocery store. He asked Mr.
Weyer about plans for lighting. Mr. Weyer stated he has no plans for exterior lighting,
and stated the only signage would be window signage.
Representatives of True Life Tabernacle Church, current owner of the property, Carol
Hargate, Terry Ritzer, and Pastor Don Hargate, spoke in favor of Mr. Weyer's proposal.
Ms. Hargate said while the property is zoned residential, the probability of someone
constructing a home there is next to nothing. She stated it would be a hardship to require
the church to find a residential buyer. Pastor Hargate suggested Mr. Weyer's proposed
use would be "less invasive" to the neighborhood than the church use.
Commission discussion centered on the best use for the property and the history of the
parcel. Mr. Teske suggested the best use of the property - residential - is precluded
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because of what has happened to the property in the past. He asked what would happen if
the requested variance is not allowed. Mr. Ranum suggested that if the variance is not
granted, the property will become an "unintended eyesore." Mr. Ranum suggested the
hardship in this case is that the building was constructed at a time when there was no
zoning.
Mr. Teske made a motion to approve the variance as conditioned; Mr. Ranum seconded
the motion. Mr. Junker expressed a concern about the possibility of a future expansion of
the office use by renting to additional tenants. Mr. Peroceschi also expressed a concern
that approval would amount to changing the use of that land forever. Motion to approve
passed 6-2, with Mr. Junker and Mr. Peroceschi voting no.
Case No. SUP/04-75 A revision to a previously approved special use permit to add a
restroom facility for commercial use to an existing shed at 2103 Schulenberg Alley in the
RB, Two Family Residential District. Dan Challeen, applicant.
Mr. Challeen was present. He expressed his appreciation to the City for the North Hill
project, which has extended water and sewer service to his neighborhood, prompting his
request to extend those services to the small shed he uses for workspace. Two letters of
support were received from neighbors.
Mr. Teske, seconded by Mr. Peroceschi, moved approval as conditioned. Motion passed
unanimously.
Other items:
1) Request to revise Legends of Stillwater development fencing requirements.
Present for the discussion was Stacey Bjelland of Durand & Associates, Legends
property managers. Ms. Bjelland stated that in the original agreement only two styles of
fencing were allowed - white or maintained white. She said the request is to expand the
approved styles to include iron or iron-looking, maintenance-free fencing. She stated
Durand did not know that fencing was part of the original PUD; they thought that was
part of the neighborhood covenants. She also stated that Durand would be happy to meet
with city staff to improve upon the architectural review committee process.
Mr. Ranum asked if there were homes out of compliance with the original fencing
requirements. Ms. Bjelland stated there were two. That resulted in additional discussion
of the development architectural committee review process. The discussion concluded
with Mr. Russell commenting that in future the city won't rely on the property
management/architectural review committee, as it is the city's basic responsibility as
issuers of building permits. Mr. Ranum suggested that the city must make clear to the
property management firms that the city's permitting process must be followed in all
instances.
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Mr. Middleton moved to approve the requested changes to the fencing regulations for the
Legends development. Mr. Turnquist seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
2) Review of RB, Duplex Residential, zoning regulations
Mr. Russell stated the need to review/revise the duplex residential zoning regulations
came about due to the recent request to construct a 1,000-square-foot garage with
dwelling unit above. Accessory dwelling units are limited to 800 square feet. Mr. Russell
also suggested the Commission might want to address the bed & room/vacation house
issue and some of the issues raised during recent B&B requests. The zoning regulations
will be discussed further at the September meeting.
3) Review of final recommended South Boutwell Area Plan
Copies of the amended plan were included in the agenda packet. Mr. Russell briefly
reviewed final changes, including recommendation No. 3 on page 10. He also stated
maps had been revised to include the conceptual Neal Avenue intersect at Northland
Avenue. He asked members if the amended plan fairly represented the Commission's
position/concerns. Members were in consensus that it did. Mr. Russell stated the
amended plan will be heard by the Joint Board on Aug. 25 and will then go to the City
Council for final action.
Mr. Peroceschi seconded by Mr. Ranum, moved to adjourn at 9:40 p.m. Motion passed
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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