HomeMy WebLinkAbout2002-02-11 CPC MIN• City of Stillwater
Planning Commission
February 11, 2002
Present: Russ Hultman, chair
Glenna Bealka, Robert Gag, Dave Middleton, David Peroceschi, Karl Ranum,
Paul Teske, Darwin Wald and Terry Zoller
Others: Community Development Director Steve Russell and Sherri Buss of consulting
engineering firm Bonestroo, Rosene and Anderlik
Absent: None
Mr. Hultman called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Wald, seconded by Mr. Ranum, moved approval of the minutes of Jan.
14, 2002, as presented; motion passed unanimously.
Case No. SUB/02-03 A resubdivision of Lots 5 and 6, Block 2, Wilson's Addition into two lots,
Lot 5 - 8,745 square feet, and Lots 6 - 7,500 square feet located at 323 Sixth Avenue S. in the
RB, Two Family Residential District. Thomas A. Suttle, representing John Bailey, applicant.
• Mr. Shuttle explained the proposal is to take down the existing structure; the HPC has granted a
demolition permit. The applicant proposes to build two new single-family homes. The lot sizes
meet the minimum requirements, he said. Renderings and floor plans will be submitted to the
City to ensure the new homes maintain the character of the neighborhood, he said. The homes
likely would have a shared driveway, he said.
Mr. Middleton noted a concern about the possibility of constructing duplexes. Mr. Suttle said
single-family homes are the only options for both economic and esthetic reasons. Mr. Ranum
noted that if the subdivision is approved, there would not be enough square footage to construct
anything but single-family homes. Mr. Ranum expressed a concern about green space and the
design of the homes, saying that he wouldn't want to see what happened on Greeley Street
repeated.
Robert Lafayette, 311 S. Third St., said the existing building is a "nightmare" and has nothing
historically significant. He suggested new single-family homes will enhance the marketability of
the adjacent homes.
Dean Hanson, 402 S. Sixth, showed slides of the neighborhood and adjacent homes. He said he
is concern about increasing density, referring to a worst case scenario if all the double lots in the
neighborhood were subdivided of four additional single-family homes and two duplexes.
Leo Lohmer, neighbor to the east, spoke of the history of the neighborhood and talked of the
potential for a drainage problem.
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Dan Fabian, 326 S. Sixth, expressed a concern about subdividing. He said there are sewer/street
issues and questioned whether the sewer main is designed to handle the additional development.
He also noted residents had just paid to have the street redone. Mr. Russell stated he was not
aware of any concern regarding the capacity of the sewer. Mr. Fabian also expressed a concern
about surface water runoff. He said 7,500 square feet is too small for a single-family structure.
He also talked of losing open space. He noted there is no neighborhood park in the area and
asked that the City explore a neighborhood park concept. He concluded by asking that the City
consider placing a moratorium on in-fill housing.
Both Mr. Hanson and Mr. Fabian stated they would rather have a "nice" duplex or triplex on the
property than two single-family structures.
Mr. Middleton noted regarding the sewer capacity concern that a triplex would produce larger
volumes of waste than two singles-family homes. Also, he noted the proposed shared driveway
cuts down on the amount of impervious surface.
Mr. Zoller asked if the city engineer had looked into the storm water drainage. Mr. Russell noted
that a development could not increase the rate of runoff. Mr. Russell also noted that a grading
plan is reviewed in the building permit process, and there is a requirement that houses be above
• street grade.
Mr. Teske asked if the City currently has a policy regarding open space for in-fill housing. Mr.
Russell responded in the negative, and said he would encourage neighbors to approach the Park
Board regarding the neighborhood park issue. Mr. Russell noted the broader issue is design
review of single-family residences in RB districts. In this instance, he said, the design review is
being picked up by a condition in the demolition permit.
Mr. Ranum, seconded by Mr. Gag, moved to deny the request. Motion to deny passed 5-4, with
Mr. Ranum, Mr. Gag, Mr. Zoller, Mrs. Bealka and Mr. Wald moving in favor of denial, and Mr.
Peroceschi, Mr. Middleton, Mr. Teske and Mr. Hultman voting against.
Case SUB/02-04 Final plat approval for a 21-lot subdivision Liberty on the Lake, The
Woodlands. Contractor Property Developers Co., Homer Tompkins, applicant.
Marc Putman was present representing the applicant. Mr. Russell noted that this subdivision was
part of the first phase of the annexation area. One of the original PUD conditions was that the
developer address the impact on wetlands/woodlands in this subdivision. As a result, there are
two fewer lots in the subdivision. Clustering was considered, he said, but that did not reduce the
impact due to the topography of the area. Mr. Ranum asked about the preservation easement;
Mr. Russell said that has been increased with the revisions. Mr. Putnam also noted the access
road has been reduced. Mr. Russell also noted it is the recommendation that lots 5 and 6 be
dedicated as outlots and that a retaining wall be constructed on the west side rather than cutting
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the slope back. Mr. Russell also noted that staff will meet with the developer prior to City
Council action to address City Engineer Eckles concerns expressed in a memo.
Robert Kroening of Neuman Realty said he agreed with the recommendation regarding the
retaining wall. He said he thought it basically was a good plan.
Mr. Zoller, seconded by Mr. Wald, moved approval as conditioned with the additional condition
that the developer address Mr. Eckles comments. Motion passed unanimously.
Case No. V/02-05 A variance to the lot size (10,000 square feet required, 7,500 square feet
requested) for construction of a single-family residence on an existing lot at South Center Street
in the RA, Single Family Residential District. Gary K. Tauer, applicant.
Mr. Tauer, 1301 W. Olive, was present. He stated he has owned the lot for 25 years and would
like to build a small rambler for a retirement home.
There was some discussion as to Center Street being the dividing line, with larger lots, 10,000
square feet, to the south and smaller lots to the north. Mr. Russell noted that variances for density
can't be granted; however, this is a lot of record and the applicant could appeal if denied. Mr.
Russell noted an alternative would be to rezone the northern portion of the block to RB. Mr.
Middleton noted the house behind Mr. Tauer's is a single-family structure built on the same size
lot.
Two daughters of the adjacent resident spoke against the request. Their primary concern was
water runoff. One of the daughters, Debby Mulcahey of St. Paul, noted that Mr. Tauer knew this
was not a buildable lot when he purchased it. She said should the variance be granted, they
would like the following conditions to be incorporated: that the property line be planted with 6'
blue spruce; that the fence be removed; that Tauer's garage be on the north side of the property;
that the setback be 30' off Center Street and 10' off the side yard; and that water flow be
addressed.
Mr. Ranum said he had the same concerns with this request as with the first request, noting this
was not a buildable lot when purchased and conditions have not changed. Mr. Teske agreed with
the concerns expressed by Mr. Ranum and said the variance, if granted, would have a significant
impact on neighbors. Mr. Middleton noted there are single-family homes on two abutting lots,
both of which are substandard lots.
Mr. Middleton moved approval with the conditions that 5-6' blue spruce be planted on the
property line, that the garage be constructed on the north side of the property, that water runoff
be directed to the west and south, and that setbacks coincide with the RA district - 30' from the
street and 10' from the side yards. Motion passed 6-3, with Mr. Ranum, Mr. Teske and Mr.
• Zoller voting no.
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South Boutwell Planning Area - Sherri Buss reviewed existing conditions in the area and issues
related to traffic, sewer and water services, stormwater management as related to the AUAR and
land use/density. Ms. Buss then showed various overlays of possible density/open space.
Mr. Zoller questioned including the Swager development in the planning, pointing out that it is
unlikely those residents would want to be included, specifically regarding water/sewer services.
Ms. Buss asked the Commission want it wanted presented to the public. It was the consensus that
the focus be on the area from the creek east, and showing the transition from south to north and
east to west.
Paul Bruggeman, representing the developers who own the parcel at Manning and County Road
12, noted they are proposing townhomes, like the Gardens at Oak Glen. The density is about 3
%2-4 units per acre, he said. It was noted that property could be served with sewer/water from the
south.
A hearing will be held at the March meeting.
Andiamo use permit - Mr. Russell noted the building official has determined that handicapped
access does not need to be provided. However, he suggested there needs to be more study.
40 regarding the issue, with the City showing due diligence should there be a challenge.
In-fill housing - Mr. Ranum moved to revisit the issue of design review of in-fill housing in the
RB district and other historic areas. Mr. Gag seconded the motion. Mr. Russell suggested the
problem is what criteria to use in design review. Mr. Zoller suggested amending the motion to
have staff investigate the issue and provide the Commission with some suggestions as to how to
proceed. Mr. Ranum said he was amendable to that amendment. Mr. Gag seconded the
amendment. Motion passed unanimously.
Other items:
Mr. Russell reminded members of the upcoming 36 Corridor planning meeting. Handouts were
provided on land use planning workshops that are scheduled at various locations in the metro
area through June 2002.
Mr. Zoller, seconded by Mr. Peroceschi, moved to adjourn at 9:50 p.m.; motion passed.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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