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PLANNING COMMISSION
April 8, 1996
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Present: Jerry Fontaine, chairman
Glenna Bealka, Dave Charpentier, Rob Hamlin, Kirk Roetman,
Darwin Wald, Thomas Weidner, and Terry Zoller
Others: Steve Russell, Community Development Director
Absent: Don Valsvik
Chairman Fontaine called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Mr. Fontaine asked that the minutes of March 11, 1996, be corrected to
indicate a 6-3 vote on Case No. SUP/96-7, with himself voting against
denial. Mr. Wald, seconded by Mrs. Bealka, moved approval of the minutes
as corrected; all in favor.
Case No. DP/SUP/V-96-15 A design permit, special use permit and
variance to the height limits (4 stories and 50 feet required, 6 stories and
70 feet requested) for construction of 60 condominium units and nine
townhomes at 301 S. Second St. in the CBD, Central Business District.
Gerrard Realty, applicant.
Representing the applicant were Bill and Pete Gerrard; Lou Moran,
architect with SEH; Mark Balay.
Mr. Moran explained that the developers used the city's site guidelines as a
base in developing plans. Purchase agreements are pending to bring the
site out to Olive Street. Mr. Moran provided elevation sections from Olive
and Third streets. The buildings will be 100 feet from the edge of Third
Street, and views of all the Third Street buildings will be maintained.
The maximum height of the condominium units is about 800 feet, with a
small elevator shaft exceeding that height. According to the ordinance the
maximum allowable height would be 780 feet (50 feet above the mid-line
point of the parcel, which is about 730 feet). Mr. Moran pointed out the
condominium units could be constructed without needing a variance.
However, in order to protect the views from Third Street and
accommodate the topography of the site, the elevation of the buildings
was staggered, with the units exceeding the allowable height moved to the
west and south of the development.
• Mr. Fontaine noted the provision of the 150 public parking spaces required
of the developer remains a concern. Mr. Moran said the latest proposal is
for the developers to construct a 3-story parking structure at the city-
owned parking lot at Olive and South Second Street and then lease back to
the city 150-165 public parking spaces. In addition, temporary parking
could be accommodated at the UBC site until actual construction begins.
Mr. Hamlin expressed his concern about the potential for changes in the
final building product, changes, for example, in colors, building materials,
roof lines, etc. Mr. Moran said an "inherent risk" is that developers are
never in a position to provide full working documents when asking for
approvals as it isn't known un til three or four months into construction
documents that exact costs are known.
Mr. Hamlin asked whether there were any maximum/minimum limits the
developer could provide. Mr. Moran responded that the buildings will be
brick; the buildings will not be any higher than shown and probably no
lower. Mr. Moran also said he believes the proposed number of units (74) is
the minimum number to make the project viable.
Mr. Weidner asked how many units exceed the allowable height; 14 units
4D require a height variance. Later in the discussion, Mr. Moran said 12 of
those units could be built within the height limitations of the ordinance;
however, doing that would go against the HPC site guidelines, he said.
Mr. Wald asked about sewer and water to the site. Mr. Moran noted an
existing sewer line would have to be relocated; water service would come
from Third Street. Mr. Moran said the developers are asking the city to pay
for the utility costs. Mr. Fontaine asked about the ramifications of run off
and storm sewer; Mr. Moran said those were design problems that the
developers would have to accommodate on site.
Thomas Loome, downtown business owner, expressed his concern about
parking; he said here needs to be an assurance that more parking will be
provided. He also noted the UBC storage site is the only open site
remaining in the South Main Street area.
Mr. Moran explained the most recent parking proposals, and later indicated
a possible timeframe for completion of a public parking structure.
0 Mr. Nolde, 311 S. Third St. (business), spoke of the complexity of the deal.
Richard Koop, 1921 Oak Glen Place, spoke
suggested that granting the height variance
for other projects in the downtown area.
in favor of the project, but
might be setting a precedent
Janie Eiklenborg, 315 S. Third St., spoke against the requested height
variance.
Ronn Hechter, Grand Garage, raised a concern about parking, as well as a
potential problem with water on the site.
Don Anderson, Andiamo Enterprises, asked how the public parking plans
would impact the Andersons plans to convert the former UBC retail
building. He pointed out their plans could be delayed if parking isn't
provided by the spring of 1997.
Mr. Russell noted that a condition of approval is the provision of public
parking spaces. It is up to the City Council to determine the financial
implications of the parking proposals, he said.
Gary Kriesel, 1451 Lydia Circle, asked about the cost of water and sewer
and the relocation of the sewer line; he suggested there was a need for
affordable senior housing in the downtown area; he questioned whether a
. parking ramp would accommodate future needs; and he asked about
monitoring of the environment cleanup at the site and whether the city
might incur future liability.
James Laskin, 308 E. Chestnut St., expressed a concern about the roof
lines and appearance of the upper condominium levels; he also asked about
the appearance of the parking structure and whether it would be
architecturally pleasing.
Jay Michels, HPC member, said that commission also had concerns about
the "dormitory effect" of the condominium units. He said the HPC worked
hard on developing specific site guidelines and said the developers have
been very open and have done a good job in working with the HPC to
address design concerns. Mr. Fontaine asked whether the height of the
structure was addressed by the HPC; Mr. Michels said the HPC's concern
has been meeting the site guidelines developed for the entire property and
how the project fits into the site.
Mr. Roetman asked whether the developers would be responsible for park
dedication fees under the city's new guidelines. Mr. Russell responded in
the affirmative. Mr. Roetman suggested adding park dedication fees as
required by the city's revised Comprehensive Plan as a condition of
approval.
Mr. Weidner spoke of the limited space
potential impact of this project on the
city's needs might change in the future.
own the property and the project does
Therefore, he said he could not vote in
conditions of approval.
in downtown Stillwater and the
city for the next 50 years; the
He noted the developers do not
not meet the city's guidelines.
favor of the project despite the
Mr. Hamlin agreed that granting approval might create a problem for future
alternatives for the city. He also suggested the project bumps the
boundaries of visibility.
Mr. Zoller agreed the project has its good and bad points, but said it helps
the city meet the Livable Communities Act and adds a permanency to
downtown. He also noted the project could be built without a height
variance. Mr. Fontaine agreed that the survival of the downtown depends on
getting people to live there.
Mrs. Bealka moved approval of the variance and special use permit
removing condition of approval No. 8 and adding a condition regarding park
dedication fees. Mr. Hamlin asked that elevation drawings showing the
height variance units located to the south and west of the site be marked
as an exhibit and retained for future reference; he also suggested adding a
condition of approval that the parking ramp on Second Street be approved
by the HPC. Mr. Russell suggested adding a condition of approval
prohibiting any roof top pedestrian activity other than needed for
maintenance purposes. Mrs. Bealka accepted the added conditions of
approval. Mr. Zoller seconded the motion. Motion passed 5-3, with Mr.
Hamlin, Mr. Roetman and Mr. Weidner voting no.
Case No. V/96-10 A variance to the front yard setback (20 feet required, 2
feet requested) for construction of a deck/porch on a residence at 324 N.
Fourth St. in the RB-Two Family Residential District. George Ghanem,
applicant.
Mr. Ghanem explained he wished to building the deck/porch to provide a
fire exit for the bedrooms on the third floor. Currently, he said the only
exit is on a steep part of Linden Street which can be very icy in the
winter. He also said old maps indicate there was a porch on the house at
one time.
Thomas Loome, 320 N. Fourth St., expressed his concern about granting
variances without a compelling necessity in residential areas, especially
those in historic districts. However, he also agreed that the requested
porch and setback would keep the same alignment as a house and porch
across the street on Linden.
Mr. Weidner asked whether providing another access was a hardship and
whether there was some other option for providing access.
Mr. Roetman, seconded by Mr. Hamlin, moved approval. Motion passed 6-2,
with Mr. Weidner and Mr. Zoller voting no.
Case No. V/96-11 A variance to the sideyard setback (5 feet required, 3
feet requested) for construction of a two-car garage at 1522 Meadowlark
Drive in the RA-One Family Residential District. Jane Baggott, applicant.
Mrs. Baggott explained the variance is needed because of the requirement
that the garage be constructed six feet from an existing three-season
porch at the home; the porch is constructed on support posts. Members
expressed some confusion as to that building requirement.
Mr. Zoller, seconded by Mr. Wald, moved approval as conditioned. Motion
• passed 7-1, with Mr. Weidner voting no.
Case No. V/96-12 A variance to the front yard setback (30 feet required,
11.5 feet requested) for construction of a garage with upstairs bedroom at
305 Stillwater Ave. W. in the RB-Two Family Residential District. William
and Dawn Tunison, applicant.
Mr. Tunison explained that to construct the garage even with the house
would require changing the windows on one entire side of the house. He
also noted that are several houses on the block at about the same setback.
Mr. Zoller asked why the Tunisons didn't consider moving the garage
farther back on the lot. Mr. Tunison explained that trees would have to be
removed, and it would mean having a driveway running the length of the
property. Also it would preclude having additional living quarters above
the garage.
Mr. Weidner, seconded by Mr. Hamlin, moved to deny the request. Motion
passed 6-2, with Mrs. Bealka and Mr. Roetman voting against denial.
19 Case No. DP/SUP/96-13 A design permit and special use permit for a 30' x
60' temporary tent adjacent to the northern end of the Lumber Baron's
Hotel at 127 S. Water St. in the CBD, Central Business District. John F.
Berglund, applicant.
Mr. Berglund and Mr. Chuck Dougherty were present for the discussion. Mr.
Berglund said they were aware of the HPC's conditions of approval.
However, he requested that the staff recommendation that there be no
outside amplified music after 10 p.m. be changed to 11 p.m.
James Laskin, 308 E. Chestnut St., suggested that granting the request
would set a precedent for the downtown district. He also suggested that
the hotel should be completed before being allowed to expand the
operations.
Mr. Michels, 118 1/2 N. Main St., noted according to the original plans,
there wasn't supposed to be a patio there, it was supposed to be part of
the hotel building. He also noted that a previous similar request by the
Freight House had been denied; granting this request could reopen that
issue.
Mr. Roetman asked whether allowing the use of the tent would require
additional parking. Mr. Russell said the request probably was not an added
use; the conference use, restaurant and bar were all addressed as part of
the original parking requirements. Mr. Roetman also referred to the earlier
denial of the Freight House request.
Mr. Zoller spoke in favor of allowing the use for six special events, such
as weddings, with review after one year.
Mr. Roetman, seconded by Mr. Hamlin, moved denial of the request. Vote
was 4-4, with Mr. Roetman, Mr. Hamlin, Mr. Wald and Mr. Fontaine voting
for the denial and Mrs. Bealka, Mr. Charpentier, Mr. Weidner and Mr. Zoller
voting against denial. Mr. Fontaine told the applicants the vote represented
no action and was the same as a denial of the request.
Case No. SUP/V/96-14 A special use permit for a 3,280-square-foot
addition to Stillwater Fitness Club and 9-car parking lot, with a variance
to the front and side lot setback requirements (20 feet required, 6.5 feet
and 2 feet provided) at 110 S. Greeley St. in the RB, Two-Family
Residential District. Heidi Rosebud, applicant.
10 Mr. Weidner abstained from the discussion due to a business association
with the applicant.
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Ms. Rosebud provided the Commission with a list of comments from the
neighboring property owners. She provided proposed plans for the addition.
It is staff's recommendation that the addition be stepped back from the
existing building to break up the linear look to the complex. Ms. Rosebud
said she would abide by that recommendation but would prefer to stay at
the existing line for drainage purposes.
Mike McCarthy, 212 S. Greeley St., expressed his concern about providing
screening features to mitigate the visual impact of the expansion to the
south. He suggested requiring some taller evergreens sufficient to provide
screening; he also asked that there be no lighting to the south. Mr.
McCarthy also spoke in favor of the front setback of the building as
recommended by staff.
Phil Erickson, who lives on Ramsey Street across from the proposed
addition, said he initially had some concerns about the expansion.
However, after talking with Ms. Rosebud, he said he would endorse the
project with the addition of landscaping and subdued lighting.
A resident at 109 S. Owens St. spoke in favor of the project. He said it fits
well with the neighborhood, and he said the area is always clean and well-
maintained.
Mr. Wald moved approval as conditioned. Mr. Roetman suggested adding the
conditions that there be no lighting to the south, other than soffit
lighting, and that landscaping be used to screen the project from the
south, with the landscaping to be reviewed by staff. He also suggested
that the language regarding the building step back be put at a minimum of
four feet. Mr. Wald accepted the additional conditions. Mr. Roetman
seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
The recording secretary left after this case.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording secretary