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• Aug. 13, 1995
Present: Chairman Jerry Fontaine
Glenna Bealka, Duane Elliott, Rob Hamlin,
Kirk Roetman, Darwin Wald and Terry Zoller
Absent: Dorothy Foster and Don Valsvik
Others Steve Russell, community development director;
Sue Fitzgerald, planning
Mr. Fontaine called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Mr. Elliott asked that the minutes of the July 10 meeting be corrected in
the discussion regarding Case No. V/95/43, changing the wording in the
third paragraph to: Mr. Elliott suggested the cheapest way to accomplish
that (property line definition) would be to have public works lay
sufficient curbing to define the street location. Mr. Wald, seconded by Mr.
Elliott, moved to adopt the July 10, 1995, minutes as corrected. All in
favor
Case No. SUP/95-50
Case No. SUP/95-55
Case No. SUP/95-58 These three cases were continued to the Sept. 11
meeting. Mr. Roetman, seconded by Mr. Wald, made the motion to continue
the cases; all in favor.
Case No. V/95-51 A variance to a previously approved sign program for
placement of a 64-square-foot sign at 14328 N. 60th St. in the BP-C,
Business Park Commercial District. Kennedy Transmission applicant.
Greg Cornell, owner, appeared regarding the request.
Two members in the audience spoke in favor of allowing additional
signage.
Mr. Hamlin noted the city does have a sign ordinance. He suggested the
problem appears to be with the landlord and tenants when one client gets
70 percent of the main signage for the center. Signs on the rear of the
buildings would not solve that issue, he said.
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Mr. Fontaine noted a precedent had been set in allowing Tires Plus
• additional signage. He said he would follow that precedent as long as the
signage is of quality design, like the Tires Plus sign. Mr. Zoller agreed
with that position.
Mr. Roetman suggested looking at other options, including redistributing
the signage on the pylon post.
Mrs. Bealka, seconded by Mr. Zoller, moved to approve the variance
allowing an additional sign of a maximum of 25 square feet and of a
quality in keeping with the precedent set by Tires Plus. Motion passed 5-2,
with Mr. Hamlin and Mr. Roetman voting no.
Case Nod V95-56 A variance to the sign program for the placement of a
second 24 or 64-square-foot sign at 14344 N. 60th St. in the BP-C,
Business Park Commercial District. Precision Tune, applicant.
Robert Leary appeared regarding the request. He said he had the same
problem as Kennedy Transmission regarding visibility of signage. He said
he would be willing to do the additional sign like the Tires Plus sign.
. Mrs. Bealka, seconded by Mr. Wald, moved approval of an additional 25
square foot sign as conditioned. Vote was 5-2, with Mr. Hamlin and Mr.
Roetman voting no.
Case No. DP/SUP-95-64 A design review and special use permit for a new
collision repair facility consisting of a building of approximately 14,214
square feet to be located at 2000 Curve Crest Blvd. in the BP-I, Business
Park Industrial District. Kellison Company, applicant.
Jim Kellison appeared regarding the request. Mr. Russell passed out a
letter received before the meeting. In response to the letter, Mr. Kellison
told the commission the fencing would be wood. He also noted that in an
earlier review by the HPC, the owner had agreed to a zig-zagged fence
design that will enable landscaping to be placed outside the fencing.
Mr. Hamlin, seconded by Mr. Elliott, moved approval as conditioned,
including the commitments regarding the fencing; all in favor.
Case No. V/95-57 A variance to the rear yard setback (23 feet requested,
25 feet required) for the construction of a four-season porch at 1986
• Tuenge Drive in the RB, Two Family Residential District. Grazelle Burns,
applicant.
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1 Ms. Burns appeared regarding the request. Mr. Zoller asked whether she
could make the porch two feet shorter so a variance wouldn't be required.
(Later in the discussion, staff pointed out that the a three foot variance,
rather than a two foot variance, would be required.) Ms. Burns said
shortening the porch by two feet would make it too narrow. She noted her
property is at the end of the street and the back of the property faces a
cul de sac on the street to the west, so the porch wouldn't give the
property a cramped appearance. She said there has been no opposition from
neighbors.
Mrs. Bealka, seconded by Mr. Roetman, moved approval. In the ensuing
discussion, Mr. Wald and Mr. Zoller noted that granting variances has a
domino effect. It was also pointed out that Ms. Burns could build a porch
within the ordinance guidelines. Motion failed on a 6-1 vote, with Mrs.
Bealka voting in favor.
Cas e No. V/95-59 A variance to a front yard setback (30 feet required, 12
feet requested) for a 22' x 24' attached garage at 201 Maryknoll Drive in
the RA, One Family Residential District. David N. Przybylski, applicant.
• Mr. Przybylski appeared regarding the request. He said he would like to
build the new garage a nd use t he existing garage for additional living
space. He said he had a letter signed by seven neighbors giving their
approval of the proposal. He also noted that he has been maintaining the
front boulevard area and using it as a parking area ever since he moved
into the house.
Mr. Elliott pointed out that Croixwood is a major development and all the
houses have been built by the book. Other variance requests have been
denied based on uniformity unless a hardship is shown. Mr. Przybylski said
there is a sharp curve to the street and the proposed garage would not
disturb anyone's view.
Mr. Elliott, seconded by Mrs. Bealka, moved to deny the request; all in
favor. .
Case No.--SUP/V/95-61 A special use permit and variance to add a small
food service counter to the existing facility at 413 E. Nelson Street in the
CBD, Central Business District. Randy Waslien and Deborah Asch,
applicants.
• Ms. Asch appeared regarding the request. She questioned the staff review
which based the need for additional parking on a restaurant use of 1,900
40 square feet; she said the existing retail use is 500 square feet. Ms.
Fitzgerald said she used the square footage from when the Commander
Elevator was approved for retail space in figuring the additional parking
needs. Ms. Asch said she was only asking for a small beverage/food
service to serve her existing customers, not the entire building.
Mr. Hamlin moved approval, with the conditions that the appropriate health
permits be obtained and that there be no additional signage. Mr. Elliott
seconded the motion; all in favor.
Case No. DP/V/95-65 Design review and variance to side yard setback
requirements (9.8 feet requested, 20 feet required) for construction of an
attached garage and brick veneer of the north wall of the house at 315 S.
Third St. in the CBD, Central Business District. Marlin Eiklenborg,
applicant.
Mr. Eiklenborg appeared regarding the request. He said he was aware of all
the conditions of approval.
Mr. Roetman, seconded by Mrs. Bealka, moved approval as conditioned; all
in favor.
Case No. SUP/95-62 A special use permit to renovate the premises to
accommodate automotive use at 14550 N. 60th St. in the BP-C, Business
Park Commercial District and Case No. SUP/V/95-63 A special use permit
to renovate the premises and variance to the sign ordinance for a second
sign at 14550 N. 60th St. Benjamin Smith, applicant.
Benjamin and Mark Smith appeared regarding the request. Mark Smith said
the owners plan to renovate both the interior and exterior of the building,
the former Crown Auto store. The parking area will be repaved and striped;
landscaping will be added. The building will be occupied by Car-X and
Enterprise Rental, neither of which require cars to be stored on the
premises.
In additional to the allowable building signage, the request is to have a
pylon sign; the owners said they would be willing to keep the pylon sign at
its existing location. Mr. Russell noted that because the Crown Auto sign
has been removed from the pylon, in terms of the sign ordinance, the
permit is null and void; the current pylon placement is within guidelines,
however.
A resident of 1403 Benson Blvd. cautioned against granting sign variances
or Highway 36 will look like Roberts Street for automotive businesses.
Another resident of Benson Boulevard said the pylon sign is an existing
condition and the variance ought to be allowed.
Mr. Russell suggested that if the variance is granted for the pylon sign, it
should be a 60 square foot sign, less that the allowable 100 square feet.
Ben Smith suggested that to make it equitable for the two building
tenants an 8 x 8 sign would make for easy design.
Mr. Roetman, seconded by Mrs. Bealka, moved approval of Case No. SUP/95-
62 as conditioned; all in favor.
Mr. Hamlin, seconded by Mr. Elliott, moved to approve Case No. SUP/V/95-
63 as conditioned, allowing a pylon sign of up to 65 square feet, maximum
25 feet in height at the existing location, with the additional condition
that there be no overnight parking of cars. Motion passed unanimously.
Ben Smith asked that the condition of approval requiring fencing of the
rear parking area be removed since no cars will be stored on the property.
Mr. Zoller, seconded by Mr. Wald, moved to eliminate condition of approval
No. 1; all in favor.
Case N. DP/SUP/95-60 A design review and special use permit and design
review plan for construction of a 20-unit townhouse project just east of
Benson Boulevard on West Orleans Street in the RCM, Medium Density
Family District. Kornovich Development Company Inc., applicant.
Over 50 people were present for this discussion. Mr. Lonnie Kornovich
appeared regarding the request. He said he had reviewed staff comments
and was open to suggestions.
Peggy Ozer, 1579 Driving Park Road, said the No. 1 concern with
neighboring property owners is, the potential for increased crime that
comes with low-income developments. There are two such developments,
Charter Oaks and the Cottages, within a mile of the Highlands area.
Stillwater police made 50 calls to Charter Oaks last year and 25 to the
Cottages, she said. She asked' that the developer consider owner/occupied
townhome units or designating the units for rental to low-income elderly
people. She also expressed concern about the vulnerability of the people
living in the new handicapped apartment unit. And she asked that the
project be buffered with landscaping. Many of the neighbors concerns deal
• with property management, she said.
Mr. Sussi, of Meets and Bounds Property Management, the firm that would
managed the proposed project, said his company manages over 2,000 units
in the Twin Cities area. Criminal and credit checks are performed for
prospective tenants. He pointed out the proposed development is not for
low-income persons, it is for moderate income, working class people. He
also said there would be no problem providing screening to the north side
of the development.
Rick Schroeder, 1402 Lydia Circle, said he was not convinced there was
enough parking. He also expressed concern about the safety of the
intersection at the hill, where there already is a significant amount of
traffic.
Wayne Jesky, 1403 Lydia Circle, asked why the property in question had
been rezoned.
Rocky Picanti, 1555 Benson Blvd., said the park is important to the
neighborhood. He expressed a concern that the development would bring a
lot of children into the neighborhood and would impact on the current
residents' property values.
• A resident of 1561
low-income housing
family housing.
Driving Park Road asked why the city is clustering
and also asked why the property was rezoned multi-
A number of residents asked why the property was rezoned after they had
built their homes.
Cindy Olson, 1525 Driving Park Road, noted that Lily Lake school is already
crowded. She too asked about the rezoning.
Gary Kriesel, 1451 Lydia Circle, said developments such as the one
proposed should be built throughout the community so the Highlands area
doesn't have the stigma of having all the low-income housing. He also said
there should be some benchmark for communities in the provision of low-
income' housing, and he asked where the city of Stillwater and other
communities are in relation to that benchmark.
Mr. Picanti said owner-occupied units would be preferable. He also
suggested the city acted hastily in rezoning the property as the Industrial
Park is beginning to sell now.
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Harry Ozer, 1579 Driving Park Road, said the city is trying to build a
• ghetto with two low-income developments within one-half mile of each
other. He said the city is not consistent in its standards -- granting a
three-foot variance for construction of a porch would have far less impact
on the neighborhood than will a low-income housing development. He said
residents in the Highland area bought homes here to raise families and are
worried about the quality of life. He reiterated concerns about safety,
crime and the proximity to the Courage Center. It's not the right type of
development for the area, he said.
Dan De St. Aubin, 1390 Benson Blvd., cited overcrowding of schools and
parks.
Carolyn Hildebrandt, 1555 Driving Park Road, asked that a fence be placed
along the property line if the project is approved.
A resident of the new handicap-accessible apartment at 1370 Curve Crest
Blvd. asked what kind of buffer would be provided at the site. And he
expressed a concern about traffic and safety, saying he had almost been
hit three times at the stop sign.
• Bruce Junker, 1451 Benson Blvd. E., spoke in opposition.
Gregory Hanson, 1548 Highland Road, showed a copy of the police calls. He
said the city should build improvements that will increase values -- this
will lower values, he said.
Ann Kriesel, 1451 Lydia Circle, asked how the developer/management
company planned to follow through on resident checks, maintenance and
appearance. She reiterated that concern later in the discussion.
Greg Ries, 1284 Benson Blvd. W., said he lived in an area where a
development, such as the one proposed, brought gangs and increased crime.
Debby Knowlan, 1363 Benson Blvd., said they bought the property under the
assumption the area in question was zoned commercial, not multi-family.
Rental ' properties aren't well maintained and residents shouldn't be
punished because the city wants to rezone the property, she said.
Dave Green, 1543 Driving Park Road, referred to recent problems where
police had to be called and said he felt "betrayed" by the city of
Stillwater; he said he had been told the area was zoned industrial.
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Mr. Zoller noted the property has been zoned multi-family for at least a
year; the rezoning was required in order to build the new handicapped
apartment building.
Janet Mathews, 1119 Gilbert Court, asked how far along the developer is
in the approval process.
Sue Fitzgerald responded that the developer has the right to come to the
city and ask for approval. Mr. Zoller pointed out that by state law as long
as the area is zoned multi-family, the city can't discriminate against
potential developers on the basis of age, income, etc. Denial would have to
be based on facts that the use doesn't meet the intent of the ordinance.
Mr. Hamlin asked where the city stands in providing this type of housing
and whether the city has to endorse this type of project. Mr. Russell noted
that the city policy is to meet Met Council's guidelines of providing for
life-cycle housing. The comprehensive plan, he said, refers to the need for
300 additional housing units for low and moderate income people. Mr.
Fontaine asked whether it made good sense for planning purposes to
spread such housing throughout the community. Mr. Russell said most older
areas of the city do have a mix of housing stock, and he noted that the
property is question is one of the few multi-family sites remaining in the
40 city.
Kerry Ruedy, 1573 Driving Park Road, asked whether the developer would
consider owner-occupied units. The answer was no.
Gary Kriesel, 1451 Lydia Circle, noted the 1990 census indicated 84
percent of the Highlands area was renter occupied. He asked what would
happen to the proposed housing development if federal policies change.
Steve Marker, 1272 Driving Park Road, questioned the need for 300
additional low- moderate-income housing units. He asked how the area
could be rezoned back to commercial/industrial. Mr. Russell responded
that the residents could petition the city council for rezoning.
Mary Jo Boyle, 1356 Benson Blvd., spoke in opposition.
Rebecca Olson, caretaker of the handicapped-accessible apartments at
1370 Curve Crest Blvd., expressed a concern about having adequate
caretakers for the project.
• Terry Hildebrandt, 1555 Driving Park Road, questioned that advisability of
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clustering low-income housing all in one neighborhood.
• A resident of 1427 Lydia Circle also referred to the possibility of the
federal government removing tax credits. He asked the developer to
consider owner-occupied units. Regarding the need for life-cycle housing,
he said senior citizens have a need, too, and would be much more welcome
by neighbors.
Mr. Fontaine said he thought the property owners and developers should get
together to talk about concerns. He said he would consider a motion to
continue the hearing.
Mr. Hamlin moved to continue the matter until the October meeting to
provide residents an opportunity to decide on a course of action and to
allow developers to make videotapes of other projects to address
concerns about management/maintenance, etc. Mr. Roetman seconded the
motion.
Mr. Kornovich noted he was under strict time guidelines and he would have
to go back to the HRA if there is a delay; he said he would be willing to
work with any recommendations from the Planning Commission.
1 Mr. Elliott said he would prefer to delay the issue just one month in order
to move the process forward. Mr. Hamlin's motion passed by unanimous
vote.
Case No. V/95-54 A variance to a side yard setback (10 feet requested, 30
feet required) at 1004 S. Holcombe St. in the RB-Two Family Residential
District. City of Stillwater, applicant.
Mr. Russell said the house on the property will be demolished because of
its poor condition, and the city wants to sell the lot . A variance is
required for the setback from Anderson St. Mr. Zoller noted the building
would have to be on the westerly side of the lot.
Mr. Hamlin, seconded by Mr. Roetman, moved approval with the condition
the building be on the westerly portion of the lot; all in favor.
Comprehensive Plan upstate
Mr. Russell noted that since the April 25 public hearing, the City Council
requested a fiscal impact study and engineering information regarding
assessment policy and location of utilities. In addition, he said there is a
concern about runoff to Brown's Creek; the watershed district is
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recommending a comprehensive study that will take about six month to
compete. He said he is hopeful the council will be ready to take action on
the Comprehensive Plan by year's end.
Mr. and Mrs. Kroening expressed their concern about the delay. They said
developing in the township is beginning to look more attractive as it
seems less and less likely that the city's Comprehensive Plan will ever
happen. They said they would not like to lose the proposed Charles Cudd
community and said they would not like to go with Stillwater Township's
plan.
Mr. Elliott, seconded by Mr. Wald, moved to adjourn the meeting at 11 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording secretary
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