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STILLWATER PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
Date: June 8, 1992
Time 7 p.m.
Members Present: Gerald Fontaine, Chairman
Angela Anderson, Glenna Bealka, Duane Elliott,
and Don Valsvik
Steve Russell, Comm. Dev. Director
Ann Pung-Terwedo, Planner
Absent: Gene Bealka, Gary Funke, Rob Hamlin,
and Darwin Wald
Chairman Fontaine called the meeting to order.
• APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Motion by Don Valsvik to approve the minutes of May 11, 1992; seconded by Glenna
Bealka. All in favor.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. V/92-24 - Variance to the approved sign program for an internally
illuminated 4' x 8' box sign for Croix Valley Glassworks in the River Heights Auto
Repair Mall, 14366 North 60th Street in the Business Park Commercial District, BP-C.
Manager Bill Gramenz appeared on behalf of the applicant. Mr. Gramenz state the
current signage is almost indistinguishable. He also stated it would cost three times
more to have individual letters versus a box-type sign.
Steve Russell noted that Croix Valley Glassworks is located at the back of the Mall,
with no frontage on the Mall interior. Maximum allowable signage is 25 feet, he said. If
the cabinet-type sign is allowed, he recommended that the letters be white with blue
plexiglass to match the facade and that the cabinet be painted gray to match the color
of the brick.
Mr. Gramenz said Croix Valley Glassworks would prefer to have turquoise letters, as
turquoise is the company color. He said Suburban Lighting recommended painting the
• plexiglass black and just illuminating the letters.
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Duane Elliott made the motion to approve the requested 32-foot signage, with the
condition that Croix Valley Glassworks and its lighting contractor work with city staff in
developing an "aesthetically pleasing" sign in design/colors. Angela Anderson
seconded the motion. All in favor.
Case No. V/92-25. Variance to setback (30 feet required, 14 proposed) to construct a
screened porch addition at 212 Deerpath in the Single Family Residential District.
Applicants Michael and Beverly Witt appeared on their own behalf. Mr. Witt explained
the request is to build a 12 x 14' porch addition to the side of their house. The siding,
doors and windows would match the house. He said it is 44 feet from the edge of the
curb to the side of the house. (Mr. Elliott pointed out that 15 of that 44 feet is city
boulevard area.) Mrs. Witt stated she had contacted all the neighbors and no one had
expressed any objections to the building plans.
Mr. Russell said the Witt case is "different" in that the residence is on a corner lot and is
actually oriented toward the cul-de-sac, Deerpath Court.
Mr. Elliott noted that every action the Planning Commission takes can set a precedent.
The decision on the Witts' request must be based on a special circumstance, and
suggested the orientation of the house to the cul-de-sac represents a "significant
difference." He also pointed out that no neighbors were in attendance. Chairman
Fontaine added that it is unlikely the boulevard area will ever be used for sidewalks.
. Don Valsvik made the motion to approve the variance request due to the special
situation of the location of the house, adding that the porch will not visually impact the
adjacent homeowners and there is a "visual" 44-foot setback. Glenna Bealka
seconded the motion. All in favor.
Case No. BM/92-26. Request to move a two-car garage from St. Paul to 728 West
Linden Street in the RB, Duplex Residential District.
Applicant Richard Orthmeyer appeared on his own behalf.
Mr. Russell stated the City Council had approved the variance Mr. Orthmeyer
requested to place the garage on the property. He suggested approval of the moving
permit be conditioned on roofing and painting the garage to match the residence.
Mr. Orthmeyer stated his house would be re-roofed and painted this summer. The
garage would be roofed and painted in basically the same color and style as the
house, he said.
Duane Elliott moved to approve the permit, with the recommended conditions;
seconded by Angela Anderson. All in favor.
Case No. BM/92-27. Request to move a two-stall garage from St. Mary's Church
parking lot to 110 South Everett Street in the RB, Two Family Residential District. Carl
• and Kathryn Johnson, applicants.
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Mrs. Johnson said one mature tree would have to be removed in order to place the
garage on the property. She also said she was unsure if she needed a permit since it
would be moved in conjunction with Hope House.
Mr. Russell said a moving permit is required, but told Mrs. Johnson to check with the
Johnson Company (the moving firm) to see if the Hope House permit would cover both
moves.
Mrs. Johnson noted the garage must be moved by July 17. The tree needs to be taken
down and foundation laid prior to the move, and she expressed concern about doing
the work without permit approval.
While commission members said they couldn't guarantee council approval, they said
they saw no problem with the request, suggesting the garage would be an asset to the
property and noting the garage would be well within setback requirements.
Duane Elliott moved to approve the permit with the recommended conditions that the
structure meet setback requirements and that a small shed to removed from the
property. Don Valsvik seconded the motion. All in favor.
Case No. V/92-11. Continuance of a variance request for an existing six-foot high
cedar fence (42 inches allowed) 21 feet from the property line at 623 West Olive Street
in the RB, Two Family Residential District.
® Applicant Michelle Elliott appeared on her own behalf. Ms. Elliott explained why the
fence was constructed prior to application of the needed variance. She stated that
because she owns large dogs, being able to construct a fence was a condition on the
purchase of the property. She said she called the building official regarding the fence
and was told it must be a foot off the property line, but that no permit was required.
Because the home had been condemned prior to Ms. Elliott's purchase, a building
official visited the home six months later to see if required improvements had been
made; at that time, she was informed there was "a problem" with the fence.
Mr. Russell noted the setback requirement is due to the height of the fence. A 48-inch
height fence doesn't require a setback. The setback requirement, he said, is to protect
neighbors' views.
Mr. Fontaine asked whether a variance to both setback and height restricts would be
required.
Mr. Elliott noted that Planning Commission had approved placement of 60-inch fences
on a split vote. However, he pointed out that many of the fences sold a Menard's or
Knox exceed the City's height restrictions. People should be advised when they
purchase fences that municipalities have regulations regarding height and location.
He later suggested putting a handout in Welcome Wagon packets advising new
residents out City regulations. Mr. Russell said he would work on a developing a
handout listing City regulations relating to fences, swimming pools and signs.
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Mrs. Johnson said one mature tree would have tc
garage on the property. She also said she was un
would be moved in conjunction with Hope House.
Mr. Russell said a moving permit is required, but
Johnson Company (the moving firm) to see if the
moves. -
Mrs. Johnson noted the garage must be moved I
down and foundation laid prior to the move, an,
the work without permit approval.
While commission members said they couldn't guarantee cv?..._
they saw no problem with the request, suggesting the garage would be an abo,
property and noting the garage would be well within setback requirements.
Duane Elliott moved to approve the permit with the recommended conditions that the
structure meet setback requirements and that a small shed to removed from the
property. Don Valsvik seconded the motion. All in favor.
Case No. V/92-11. Continuance of a variance request for an existing six-foot high
cedar fence (42 inches allowed) 21 feet from the property line at 623 West Olive Street
in the RB, Two Family Residential District.
• Applicant Michelle Elliott appeared on her own behalf. Ms. Elliott explained why the
fence was constructed prior to application of the needed variance. She stated that
because she owns large dogs, being able to construct a fence was a condition on the
purchase of the property. She said she called the building official regarding the fence
and was told it must be a foot off the property line, but that no permit was required.
Because the home had been condemned prior to Ms. Elliott's purchase, a building
official visited the home six months later to see if required improvements had been
made; at that time, she was informed there was "a problem" with the fence.
Mr. Russell noted the setback requirement is due to the height of the fence. A 48-inch
height fence doesn't require a setback. The setback requirement, he said, is to protect
neighbors' views.
Mr. Fontaine asked whether a variance to both setback and height restricts would be
required.
Mr. Elliott noted that Planning Commission had approved placement of 60-inch fences
on a split vote. However, he pointed out that many of the fences sold a Menard's or
Knox exceed the City's height restrictions. People should be advised when they
purchase fences that municipalities have regulations regarding height and location.
He later suggested putting a handout in Welcome Wagon packets advising new
residents out City regulations. Mr. Russell said he would work on a developing a
handout listing City regulations relating to fences, swimming pools and signs.
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• STILLWATER PLANNING COMMISSION
MINUTES
Date: July 13, 1992
Time: 7:00 p.m.
Members Present: Gerald Fontaine, Chairman
Angela Anderson, Glenna Bealka, Duane Elliott,
Gary Funke, Rob Hamlin, and Don Valsvik
Steve Russell, Comm. Dev. Director
Ann Pung-Terwedo, Planner
Absent: Gene Bealka and Darwin Wald
Chairman Fontaine reviewed the procedures for hearing cases,
discussion, voting and abstaining. He then called the meeting to
order.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Don Valsvik noted that on page 3, paragraph 8, the second
sentence should read: A 42-inch height fence does not require a
setback:.
Motion by Glenna Bealka, seconded by Gary Funke to approve the
minutes of of June 8, 1992, as amended. All in favor.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. V/92-28 - Variance to the rearyard setback (20 feet
requested, 2; feet required) for construction of a deck at 1203
North Martha Street. Michael Sampson, property owner, presented
the request.
The request is to replace an existing deck. The two adjacent
property owners have given their written approval.
Motion by Don Valsvik to approve the variance request since the
neighbors have no objection. Seconded by Duane Elliott. All in
favor.
Case No. SUP/92-29 - A Special Use Permit to operate a three-
bedroom Bed and Breakfast at 801 West Pine Street in the RB
District. Jon and Rita Graybill, applicants.
Case No. SUP/92-30 - A Special Use Permit to operate a four-
bedroom Bed and Breakfast at 811 West Pine Street in the RB
District. Duane E. Arndt, applicant.
t The Commission determined that the two applications should be
heard together, since the properties are next door to each other.
The City Attorney has informed staff that one does not take
precedence over the other because both applications were
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Mrs. Elliott's fence is constructed on a hill. Mr. Fontaine suggested the due to the
location of the fence, the reason for the setback restrictions -- protecting neighbors'
views -- doesn't apply. He also asked Ms. Elliott whether any of the neighbors had
expressed objections about the fence. Ms. Elliott responded that neighbors were
"pleased as punch" at the improvements she has made to the property thus far.
Mr. Elliott agreed that the placement of the fence on a hill eliminates any major
objections. He moved to approve the location of the fence because "topographically" it
does not visually impact the adjacent area. All the neighboring yards appear to be at
the same level, and the placement of the fence falls outside of the rationale for which
the ordinance was written, he concluded. Glenna Bealka seconded the motion. All in
favor.
R OWELL PARK STUDY
Brad Bielenberg, a Stillwater resident and recent graduate of North Dakota State
University, reviewed his senior project on the use and design of Lowell Park for
Commission members.
Consultants Bill Sanders and Rob Williams were on hand to get some preliminary
input from Commission members about potential land uses in Lowell Park.
MUSIC IN DOWNTOWN and RAVINE PROTECTION ORDINANCE
. It was agreed these issues need to be addressed. The matter was referred back to staff
for additional research and direction.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:15 p.m.
Submitted by:
Sharon Baker
Acting recording secretary