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MINUTES
May 3, 1993
Members present: Chairman Jeff Johnson, Robert Kimbrel, K.B. Francis,
Howard Lieberman, Brent Peterson, Pat Qualey, and Tim Stefan.
Others: Steve Russell, community development director, and Ann Pung-
Terwedo, planner.
Chairman Johnson called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Minutes of the April 5 meeting were approved as presented.
Case No. DR/93 -10. Design Review for a hotel development at 405 E. Myrtle St.
and 127 S. Water Street ( Lumberman's Exchange Building) in the Historic
Commercial District.
Case No. DR/93 -11 Design Review for the renovation of an existing school into
an office building. The property is located at 110 E. Pine St. (East Junior High
Building) in the Downtown Plan Area.
Casg No. DR/93 -12. Design Review for a parking lot of 150 cars. The property is
located at 100 W. Pine St. (West Junior High Building) in the Downtown Plan
Area.
Jay Slater of BWBR architects noted that all three projects listed above are
intertwined. Jim Widder of BWBR highlighted some of the design features of the
Cub corporate headquarters proposed to be located in the east wing building of
the junior high and the 90 -room hotel proposed for the current Hooley's
supermarket site and Lumberman's Exchange Building.
Rob Williams of Sander, Wacher, Wherman and Bergley described some of the
landscaping features of the proposed parking lot on the west wing junior high
site. Engineer Glen Van Wormer briefly explained some of the traffic
engineering aspects of the proposed parking area.
Chairman Johnson invited question /comments from the audience.
Sis Casanova, 223 W. Pine St., spoke against demolishing the west wing
building in favor of a parking lot.
Joy Pendergast, new downtown business owner, spoke in favor of the projects
and referred to the downtown's parking problems.
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Marlene Workman- DeBoef, Washington County Historic Courthouse
Coordinator, spoke in favor of the adaptive reuse of the east wing building, but
urged that the west wing building not be demolished without first looking at
other alternatives and the possible reuse of that building as well.
Richard Kilty, 118 W. Oak St., asked a number of questions regarding the Cub
office plans -- the location of the service access; the location of the HVAC
equipment and the equipments possible audio /visual impact on neighbors. He
also suggested the cupola shown in the design plans intrudes on the heritage
of the building.
James Rosamilia, 220 S. Third St. (w) and 438 S. Broadway (h), echoed Mr.
Kilty's concerns about the service entrance, HVAC equipment and cupola. He
also spoke against the proposal to build the parking lot on the west wing site,
saying it was "totally inappropriate" for the City to build a parking lot there.
Vern Stefan, 717 Sixth Ave. S., expressed his concern about the traffic that
would be generated by the Cub office plan and questioned placing a parking lot
in a residential /church area. He also questioned the cost the City would incur in
the demolition of the west wing and development of the parking lot.
Stan Miller suggested the Cub use would probably generate less traffic than the
junior high school currently does.
Mr. Kilty raised several questions about the parking lot design -- why the brush
was being retained; why there was only one entrance; how the lot would be
plowed and who would be responsible for maintaining the lot.
The resident of 400 S. Third St. spoke in favor of the project, specifically the
parking lot, as an improvement over existing conditions.
The public hearing on the junior high plans was closed at 8:30 p.m.
Case No. DR/93-11
Mr. Johnson referred to the conditions of approval as recommended by staff. He
suggested that neighbors' concerns about the service entrance location and
HVAC units be addressed. Mr. Johnson expressed his personal concern about
the 13 degree rotation of the atrium portion of the office building and suggested
that the positioning /design of the atrium clashes with the more horizontal flow of
the existing east wing building.
Mr. Stefan said he would hate to see the atrium /cupola "compete" with the
historic steeples in the neighborhood when viewed from the downtown. He
suggested that the atrium glass not be strongly glazed.
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Mr. Lieberman agreed with the concern that the atrium might become a "big
beacon" that won't enhance the residential feel of the neighborhood and that
the cupola might not speak to the community in a positive way. He also agreed
with Mr. Kilty's concern about the location of the service entrance.
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Mr. Lieberman said he was pleased with the basic concept of the parking lot
plans, but emphasized that its impact on the community must be minimized as
much as possible.
Mr. Johnson moved to give concept approval with the recommended conditions
of approval and the additional conditions regarding the glass material in the
atrium; the service access location; removal of the access road on the east side
of the east wing building; attempting to address concerns about HVAC
equipment; that the atrium window lines be more in keeping with the existing
three -story, rectilinear pattern of the east wing building.
Mr. Widder asked whether a change in the atrium design /rotation was a
condition of approval. He said it was strongly felt the design and rotation of the
atrium was needed to provide the image for the building as a new corporate
headquarters. He suggested the design was a "contrasting compliment" and an
attempt to distinguish the new from the old. He urged that a change in the atrium
design /rotation be removed as a condition of approval.
A brief polling of Commission members indicated that a change in the atrium
rotation should not be a condition of approval. K.B. Francis seconded the
motion to give concept approval, deleting the reference to the atrium rotation. All
in favor.
Case No. DR/93 -12
Mr. Stefan and Ms. Francis both noted that the issue of what to do with the west
wing building has never formally been resolved; Mr. Johnson pointed out that
was an issue separate from the Commission's review of the parking lot design.
Mr. Lieberman also noted that it would be difficult to say OK to Cub's plans to
locate its headquarters in the east wing building without addressing parking
needs.
Mr. Kimbrel moved to give concept approval to the west site parking plans, with
the four recommended conditions of approval; seconded by Mr. Lieberman. All
in favor.
Case No. DR/93 -13
Stan Miller suggested that the site of the proposed hotel complex is one of the
centerpieces of Stillwater, both visually and architecturally. He urged the
architects to keep that in mind as plans are formulated in finer detail. He also
suggested the proposed number of parking spaces (60) could create a problem.
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Ned Souder said he disagreed with the riverboat theme of the front of the hotel
as proposed. Riverboats belong on the river, he said. He urged architects to
consider that most buildings in the downtown area are 100 years old.
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Mr. Kilty raised questions regarding the extension of the front of the hotel
building, as well as parking.
Marlene Workman- DeBoef cautioned the Commission to look carefully at
allowing a "Disney World motif' on the waterfront. She also questioned who
owns the land /parking lot the hotel complex would be situated on.
Mr. Lieberman noted the view down Myrtle Street is currently marred by the red
Hooley's supermarket sign. He referred to the Commission's struggle to
encourage commercial development while maintaining architectural integrity.
He suggested the riverboat motif was "gimmicky" and would not endure.
Mr. Stefan disagreed saying he liked the modulated forms and masses and
thought it was successful in drawing attention to the infill in relation to the river.
Mr. Johnson suggested that the river view of the hotel was diminished by the
use of three different appearances. He ,too, suggested that the designers
downplay the riverboat appearance. He also expressed his concern that the
front of the hotel overhangs too far into Myrtle Street.
Mr. Stefan asked whether the facade couldn't be pulled back to allow for a
vehicle drop -off area.
Mr. Peterson noted that some of the same items (theme design) were used
against the Lowell Inn as being the Mount Vernon of the West when the Inn was
first proposed.
Mr. Johnson reiterated his concern about keeping the vistas /access to the river
open to the public. He stated that the awning as proposed projects well beyond
what was there before.
Mr. Johnson moved to give concept approval with the recommended conditions,
with the additional conditions that the architects consider reducing the riverboat
appearance and that the Myrtle Street line of site be kept open; seconded by
K.B. Francis. All in favor.
An n Puna - Terwedo took over as recordina secretary at 11 o.m.
Case No. DR/93 -3 . Design Review for paint colors for a series of buildings at
235 E. Chestnut St. and 202 S. Main St. in the Historic Commercial District.
Forrest Cole, applicant.
Mr. Cole presented the color proposal: Smitty's Barber Shop /Music Shop, beige
and burgundy; Country Classics, blue, beige and burgundy; Your Treasure
Island, cream and burgundy.
Peter Tachney, owner of the music shop, stated he would like to work with
Smitty's to come up with a unified color for 235 E. Chestnut St. This will be
submitted for review when they have made a decision.
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The Commission had concern about the 202 S. Main St. building (Country
Classics and Your Treasure Island). Because it is one building, the Commission
felt the facade should be a coordinated color.
Jeff Johnson made a motion to approve the paint colors of blue, burgundy and
beige for 202 S. Main St., with the option of the burgundy and beige. The whole
structure shall be one color combination. Howard Lieberman seconded the
motion. All in favor.
Case No. DR/931 Design Review for a 25- square -foot sign, paint colors and
minor facade alterations at 125 S. Main St.
Mrs. Curtin reviewed the proposal. She stated the proposal is phase 1 of an
overall restoration plan for the building. The colors of the building will be green,
burgundy, and gold with beige. The sign will be black with gold lettering.
Tim Stefan made the motion to approve the plan as proposed; seconded by
Howard Lieberman. All in favor.
Case No. DR/93 -8 . Design Review for a four - square -foot projecting sign at 235
E. Chestnut St. Joy Pendergast and Peter Tachney, applicants.
Peter Tachney presented the proposal. He stated the sign will be less than six
square feet which is allowed by the ordinance.
Katherine Francis made a motion to approve the sign proposal; seconded by
Tim Stefan. All in favor.
Case No. DR/93 -9 . Design Review for paint colors for a structure at 236 S. Main
St. Janine Eiklenborg, applicant.
Janine Eiklenborg presented the paint color proposal. Jeff Johnson questioned
whether the awning on the building was to be repaired. Ms. Eiklenborg stated
next month a sign plan and other improvements to the facade will be submitted
for Design Review.
Bob Kimbrel made a motion to approve the paint color proposal as presented;
seconded by Tim Stefan. All in favor.
Case No. DR/93 -13 Design Review for a trash enclosure between the Brick
Alley (423 S. Main St.) and the Dock Cafe (225 E. Nelson St.)
Ann Terwedo presented the trash enclosure plan for Mr. McGuire who could not
attend the meeting. She stated the doors on the building will be similar to the
wood panels on the Water Street enclosure. The sides will be brick.
Howard Lieberman made the motion to approve the trash enclosure project as
proposed; seconded by Katherine Francis. All in favor.
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Case No. SUP /DR- 93 -30 Special Use Permit and Design Review for an
office /retail building at 1900 Tower Drive in the Stillwater West Business Park
District. Krongard Construction, applicant.
Kr. Krongard presented the proposal. He stated their proposal calls for a five -
foot green space along the east property line. He would like to keep that. The
West Business Park Plan and condition of approval No. 1 requires a 10 -foot
landscaped area to be maintained.
Mr. Krongard added that all other conditions of approval can be met. Steve
Russell stated he is concerned about the setback and the amount of impervious
surface.
Bob Kimbrel made a motion to approve the proposal with the conditions of
approval as outlined; seconded by Howard Lieberman. All in favor.
Case No. SUP /DR- 93 -31 Special Use Permit and Design Review for a
veterinary clinic on the northeast corner of Washington Avenue and Curve Crest
Boulevard.
Jim Kellison presented the proposal. He stated all conditions of approval can be
met.
Brent Peterson made a motion to approve the plan as proposed; seconded by
Pat Qualey. All in favor.
Context Study Ann Terwedo stated she will distributed the Context Study when
it is received.
Ann Terwedo presented Bob Vogel's report on the historic significance of the
West Junior High School building.
Brent Peterson stated there may not have been enough research done on the
Tozers. Dick Kilty felt it was not necessary to do the historic study. Discussion
followed on Al Tozer and David Tozer.
Marlene Workman DeBoef stated she disagrees with Bob Vogel. She feels that,
from a local perspective, the building is significant in the contexts of the history
of education and the history of the auditorium.
Discussion followed regarding national standards for the designation of historic
sites and the local ordinance.
Tim Stefan made a motion to accept Bob Vogel's report and concur with the
report that the West Junior High School building is not eligible for the National
Register or locally significant based on the Preservation Ordinance.
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Brent Peterson said the building is significant because it has served as a
cultural resource. Cultural characteristic is a criteria in the Preservation
Ordinance. Bob Kimbrel supported Brent's position.
Jeff Johnson seconded Tim's motion by adding that the Heritage Preservation
Commission encourages reuse of the building as an alternative to its
demolition. Tim Stefan agreed.
Johnson, Stefan, Lieberman, Kimbrel and Peterson voted in favor of the motion.
Francis and Qualey abstained.
Jeff Johnson made the motion to adjourn; seconded by Howard Lieberman. All
in favor.
Meeting adjourned at 11:46 p.m.
Respectively submitted,
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Ann Pung - Terwedo
Sharon Baker
Acting recording secretary