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Aug. 7, 1995
Present: Katherine Francis, Robert Kimbrel, Howard Lieberman,
Jay Michels and Roger Tomten
Others: Steve Russell, community development director; Susan
Fitzgerald, planning
Absent: Chairman Jeff Johnson and Brent Peterson
Todd Remington
Acting chairman Robert Kimbrel called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes
corrected to indicate
the HPC take no ac
commission had no
correction; Katherine
Case DP/95-13.-
i Mr. Kimbrel asked that the July 5, 1995, minutes be
that at the June 5, 1995, meeting he suggested that
tion on the Lumber Barons Hotel project because the
plans to review. Mr. Tomten moved to make that
Francis seconded the motion. All in favor.
case was continued.
Case DP /SUP /V/95 -60. This case was continued.
Case DP /SUP/95 -64. Design review and special use permit and design
permit for a new collision repair facility located at 2000 Curve Crest
Blvd. Jim Kellison, applicant.
Mr. Kellison and the business owner, Mr. Schoonover, appeared regarding
the request.
Mr. Kellison asked that the commission reconsider a condition of approval
that the fence be moved in 10 feet from the property line around the rear
parking area to allow landscaping to be outside of the fencing. Mr. Kellison
said the fence needs to be kept at the property line to provide for
overnight parking and snow storage. Mr. Schoonover suggested a
compromise -- a zig- zagged fence along the property line, with alcoves
where landscaping could be planted.
Mr. Tomten moved approval as conditioned - , changing condition of approval
L_ No. 3 to indicate that landscaping must be in place by June 1, 1996, if
weather conditions prohibit landscaping earlier and with the additional
condition that the landscaping, fencing and lighting plans be reviewed by
the HPC at its next meeting. Ms. Francis seconded the motion. Mr. Michels
suggested adding that the signage plan is also to be reviewed at the next
meeting. Mr. Tomten accepted Mr. Michels' amendment to his motion.
Motion passed unanimously.
Case DP/V/95 -65. Design permit and variance for the construction of an
attached garage and brick veneer of north wall of house at 315 S. Third St.
Marlin Eiklenborg applicant.
Mr. Eiklenborg appeared regarding the request. There was some discussion
of drainage and how Mr. Nolde's plans for the property immediately to the
north might impact the grade /drainage. Mr. Eiklenborg said he will be in
contact with Mr. Nolde.
Mr. Michels, seconded by Mr. Lieberman, moved approval as conditioned. All
in favor.
Follow -up review of Larry's Floor storefront design. Judd Orff appeared
before the commission. He explained that the window placement was due
to a steel beam that runs through the interior which prohibited the
placement as originally shown in plans. He also said structural
difficulties made it impossible to put the air conditioning unit on the roof
or interior of the building.
Mr. Tomten noted that design guidelines call for screening of air
conditioning units as much as possible. He said he understood the hardship
but asked Mr. Orff to look at screening the unit in some fashion. Mr.
Tomten moved to accept the revised plan with the condition that Mr.
Orff /building owners prepare some screening ideas for approval by city
staff. Ms. Francis seconded the motion; all in favor.
Follow -up review of Staples Mill reconstruction. Monty Brine and Mark
Balay were present. Mr. Balay explained that the building is being restored
to its condition prior to the fire and therefore doesn't require any design
review.
Follow -up review of Lumber Barons Hotel. City Attorney David Magnuson,
Mayor Jay Kimble and Councilman Terry Zoller were present for this
discussion, as were the developers -- Duane Hubbs, John Berglund and
Chuck Dougherty.
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Mr. Kimbrel stated his position that the
HPC should rescind
its
actions of
the June 5, 1995, meeting because the
action was based
on
information
that turned out to be false. Mr. Tomten
agreed that based
on
information
given to the HPC, the commission didn't
do as thorough
a
review as
possible. He said he would like to set the
record straight and
do
a thorough
review based on the information the HPC
now has.
Mr. Lieberman said he thought the original plan for the hotel was
outstanding. He said the HPC actions in June were based on the
understanding that revisions were due to federal mandates. He also said he
would not like the HPC to underutilize or overstep its . authority. He later
called for moving forward with a spirit of good will and cooperation to
make sure the product/process maintains the highest level of integrity.
Mr. Michels asked Mr. Magnuson to address the question of the HPC's
authority. Mr. Magnuson said the question of the HPC's authority is a
contradictory area. He said the whole process has never been tested
before; he further suggested the process is flawed and needs to be
reworked. From a legal standpoint, he said, the HPC /city may not be able
to force changes because the project is so far along.
Mr. Berglund reiterated the developers' position that they thought they
were in compliance with the process -- that they had submitted the
revised plan to city staff in July 1994.
Mayor Kimble urged the two groups to "bury the hatchet and move
forward." He said the situation was a case of misunderstanding and
provides an opportunity for the city to learn from its mistakes, improve
communication with its commissions, and refine the process. "The blame
is with the system," he said.
Mr. Lieberman suggested the HPC and developers articulate a joint
statement that they had reached consensus on the building.
Members and developers then held an at- the -table review of plans. Mr.
Tomten and Mr. Kimbrel again expressed concern about the Water Street
elevation of the building. Mr. Tomten suggested the possibility of planters
to make the Water Street elevation more pedestrian - friendly. The
developers later agreed to the use of planters if the city is willing to
vacate a portion of the sidewalk.
The discussion closed with Mr. Lieberman making a motion to formulate a
joint statement that the HPC and St. Croix Preservation Co. agree that the
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project conforms to both federal and
HPC and St. Croix Preservation Co.
on the future development of the
seconded the motion; all in favor.
developers.
local design guidelines, and that the
look forward to continued cooperation
Lumber Barons Hotel. Ms. Francis
The statement was agreeable to the
In a separate motion, Mr. Lieberman, seconded by Mr. Michels, moved to
encourage the city to consider vacating two feet of sidewalk (on Water
Street) to allow for the use of planters to be maintained by the
developers. All in favor.
Review
of downtown
Christmas lights. Kristin Klemetsrud and Sharon
Stepan,
representing
the City of Stillwater Chamber
of Commerce,
reviewed
plans for Christmas lights /decorations in the
downtown area.
The decorations
will
incorporate the new city banners.
They said the
intent is
to do as much
as possible this year, depending on
funding.
Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Lieberman, moved to support the plans as
presented; all in favor.
Bridge update. Mr. Michels gave an update on the design for the new river
crossing. He also noted that MnDOT is now changing its position and will
not be leading the charge to preserve the old lift bridge. He suggested that
the city, along with SHPO and the Minnesota Historical Society will have
to play a lead role in preserving the lift bridge.
Update on downtown /Lowell Park light fixtures. Ms. Fitzgerald and Mr.
Russell showed graphics of the proposed fixtures. The fixtures in the park
will be acorn style and placed at a height of 15 feet due to concerns about
vandalism. The street fixtures will be lantern style and placed at a height
of 12 -13 feet. Ms. Francis said she preferred the lower placement in the
pedestrian area.
Design review of Andersen WindowCare Center entrance sian. This was an
informational item and no action was necessary.
Mr. Lieberman, seconded by Ms. Francis, moved to adjourn the meeting at
11 p.m. All in favor.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary