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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-06-03 HPC MINHERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION June 3, 1996 Present: Robert Kimbrel, chairman Katherine Francis, Jeff Johnson, Howard Lieberman ( 7:35 p.m.), Brent Peterson, and Roger Tomten Absent: Jay Michels Others: Sue Fitzgerald, planning Chairman Kimbrel called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. Approval of minutes Mr. Tomten requested that the minutes of May 6, 1996, be corrected as follows: Case No. DR/96 -12 -- that future signage be of similar size and proportion and located immediately below the River Valley Arts Council sign; Case No. DR/96 -30 -- that the wording "if desired" be removed from the discussion in the second sentence on page 3; Case No. DR/96 -17 -- that the condition regarding full- mounted luminaries be changed to pole- mounted luminaries with shoe -box fixtures. Mr. Kimbrel noted that members had asked that the minutes of May indicate that the HPC had requested an update from the Lumber Baron's Hotel developers at the April meeting. Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved approval of the minutes as corrected; all in favor. Case No. DR/96 -10 Design review for exterior signage at 1200 W. Frontage Road. Stillwater Brick and Stone Company, applicant. This case was continued from the May meeting. Anthony Weinand, owner, was present for the discussion. Mr. Johnson noted the Kozy Heat sign was an additional non - permitted sign that would have to be removed. Mr. Johnson also had some suggestions regarding the layout of the lettering on the proposed building sign. Mr. Tomten asked about the banner on the fence on the west side of the business. Mr. Weinand said Mr. Russell had told him he could apply for a temporary permit for a banner; Ms. Fitzgerald noted the applicant could apply for a 30 -day permit for a banner. 0 0 Mr. Tomten moved approval as conditioned -- no additional signage, including product signage, and the building lettering not be illuminated. Ms. Francis seconded the motion; all in favor. Case No. DR/96 -1 a Design review for portable shelter for parking attendant at Brick Alley Parking Lot. Michael McGuire, applicant. Robert Tanner represented Mr. McGuire at the meeting. There was some discussion as to the orientation of the structure, the severity of the roof line, and variety of window sizes. Mr. Johnson noted the request was for a short -time use. Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval as conditioned; all in favor. Case No. DR /SUP /96 -40 This case was continued. Case No. DR/96 -19 Design review of development sign for Bluffs of Stillwater Condominium Project. Mark Balay, applicant. Mr. Tomten, seconded by Ms. Francis, moved approval as conditioned; all in favor. Case No. DR /SUP/96 -35 Design review for a self- service car wash located at Stillwater Market Place 2nd Addition. Krongard Construction, applicant. Jack Krongard was present for the discussion. He explained that, in essence, the Target engineers /architects designed the building and did the landscape design. HPC members had not seen the landscape plans, so Mr. Krongard went through the landscape plans and elevations which were designed by RLK for Target. Mr. Tomten asked about the lighting plan and the location and style of the wall- mounted fixtures. Mr. Tomten said the building- mounted lights, as well as the pole- mounted lights, should be shoe -box style, downlit fixtures. Mr. Krongard went through the building plans. There will be no outside dumpsters nor roof -top mechanical equipment, he said. There was considerable discussion regarding the requested two building signs -- on the Market Drive and County Road 5 elevations. Mr. Johnson noted that only one sign per building is allowable, a guideline specific to I • • the Industrial Park area. He pointed out that four other lots will be in the same situation, with the potential for double - signage. Mr. Johnson raised the issue of the definition of business use. Auto service business are allowed one wall sign and one ground sign. Mr. Lieberman said a car wash is definitely an auto service use, and he said he thought two wall signs would be preferable to a large monument sign, plus a wall sign. Members expressed a preference that the signage be backlit versus internally illuminated. Mr. Tomten moved approval as conditioned, with the following additional conditions: the juniper plantings on the berms be of a variety that will be 36" high; the wall- mounted fixtures be shoe -box, downlit fixtures; there be no outside dumpsters; and that the signage be backlit lettering with opaque, backlit letters. Mr. Lieberman suggested adding that approval of the two signs is based on what is allowable for an auto service business use. Mr. Lieberman seconded the motion; all in favor. Mr. Krongard will submit the light fixture selections to Ms. Fitzgerald for her review. Other business • Pioneer Park -- Ms. Fitzgerald said a public meeting had been held May 29. Finals plans are expected to be submitted in July. • Old Post Office building -- Mr. Balay said the owners are planning to repaint the doors. There was a brief discussion of the use /ownership of the rock garden on the property. • Mr. Kimbrel noted that the City Council has agreed to waive the residency requirement to allow Ms. Francis to continue serving on the HPC. • Mr. Kimbrel asked about the trash enclosures at the Lumber Baron's Hotel. Ms. Fitzgerald said nothing has been submitted. • Mr. Lieberman said in future, he would like the Preservation Award winners to be determined as a group. • Ms. Fitzgerald talked briefly about the new planters in the downtown area. • Mr. Johnson noted that PD Pappy's now has several exterior beacons, which are not allowable. Ms. Fitzgerald said she would talk with the owners or contact them by letter regarding the situation. • Mr. Balay informed members of a federal ruling on the EIS for the new St. Croix bridge. He said there has been a negative ruling on the EIS because the study did not address the existing lift bridge. A committee is being formed to address the lift bridge issue, he said. • Ms. Fitzgerald gave an update on the bus benches /advertising signage. She said the contract is up in September, at which time action will likely be taken. Mr. Lieberman, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:45 p.m.; all in favor. Respectfully submitted, Sharon Baker Recording Secretary