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HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
Aug. 5, 1996
Present: Robert Kimbrel, chairman
Jeff Johnson, Jay Michels, Brent Peterson, and Roger Tomten
Absent: Katherine Francis and Howard Lieberman
Others: Sue Fitzgerald, planning
Chairman Kimbrel called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved approval
of the minutes of July 1, 1996; motion passed unanimously.
Case No. DR /SUP/96 -51 Design review of graphic wall sign for Andiamo
Banquet Hall at 207 S. Second St. Mark Balay, applicant.
Building owner Richard Anderson and architect Ed Hocksford were present
for the discussion.
Mr. Anderson explained that the request is to make one addition to the
mural on the building. Mr. Johnson noted the size of the text is within the
guidelines. Members felt the mural as completed to date looked good. Mr.
Michels, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved approval of the requested
addition to the building mural; motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Anderson made several other requests regarding lighting. He said he
would like to highlight the mural with seven floodlight fixtures which
would be mounted at the cap of the building. He asked the commission to
approval the trial installation of one fixture to see if it provides the
desired type of lighting.
Mr. Johnson noted the commission previously approved light fixtures for
the exterior of the building. He suggested letting the previously approved
fixture style stand, with Mr. Anderson to notify the HPC when the trial
fixture is in place so members can review the impact of the lighting and
styles of the fixtures. Ms. Fitzgerald suggested that the trial light be
installed so it can be seen from Main Street.
Mr. Anderson also said he would like to use two light standards, similar to
those at St. Mary's Church, in the entryway; the HPC had previously
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approved wall sconces for the entry way. Mr. Tomten suggested the
requested change might make the lighting "too busy."
Mr. Michels volunteered to serve as a liaison and inspect the requested
fixtures. Mr. Michels, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved to table the request
until the September meeting; all in favor.
Mr. Anderson also informed the HPC that there were two minor text
changes to the signage on South Second Street.
St. Croix Designs, 125 S. Main St.
Ms. Fitzgerald explained not all the materials were available for inclusion
in the agenda packets. Business owner Kris Rumsted said the request is to
freshen up the backside of the building and identify the business from the
Water Street entrance.
The proposed style of the rear signage is different than the signage on the
Main Street elevation. Members expressed a preference that the style of
the front signage be carried through to the Water Street elevation. Mr.
Michels noted Ms. Rumsted could use window lettering to highlight the Art
by Kenya portion of the business.
Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved to accept the paint color
scheme as presented with Ms. Rumsted to return to the HPC for review of
the proposed signage. Motion passed unanimously.
Other business
• Lumber Baron's Hotel. Ms. Fitzgerald reviewed the proposal sign,
commissioned by Lebo Sign Co., that will replace the previously approved
sign for the southwest side of the building that was destroyed in a recent
storm. The sign will be the same size, color and style as the previous sign.
Mr. Tomten said he and Ms. Fitzgerald had met with Mr. Dougherty
regarding the light posts requested for the patio area. The HPC had
approved 10 light posts, Mr. Dougherty has 12. The light posts are being
painted black. Mr. Tomten said he thought the placement of the 12
standards was acceptable. Members agreed to allow the use of 12 lights
based on Mr. Tomten's opinion. Regarding the ongoing issue regarding the
enclosure of the outside trash area, Mr. Tomten said the owners stated
that new management is coming on board and they will get back to the HPC
in a month. Mr. Michels spoke of the need to follow up on the issue. Ms.
Fitzgerald will write a letter to the hotel owners.
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Later, Mr. Kimbrel brought up the matter of the enclosure of the new
portion of the hotel building at the Myrtle Street elevation. According to
an April 24 letter, the owners agreed to bring their plans back to the HPC
in September. Mr. Kimbrel said the issue should be brought to the council's
attention or the developers should be asked to be at the September
meeting. It was agreed that Ms. Fitzgerald would ask the developers to be
at next month's meeting to discuss both the trash enclosure issue and the
completion of the building.
• Bus benches. Members reviewed a draft of Mr. Tomten's letter to the City
Council regarding the bus benches. Mr. Michels noted there is only one
official bus stop in the downtown area -- in the back of the Oasis Market.
Mr. Michels suggested replacing the wording "bus benches" in the first
sentence of the letter with "advertising benches." Mr. Michels also
suggested changing the wording of the first sentence of the last paragraph
to: "The Heritage Preservation Commission would like to see benches not
on the immediate bus route removed and those that are (on the bus route)
replaced with benches of an appropriate design." In the last sentence it
was agreed to add the word "historic" character of downtown ...
Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Michels, moved to forward the letter, with
the noted changes, to the City Council; motion passed unanimously.
• South Hill Survey. Mr. Fitzgerald said the survey is about 85 percent
completed. She expects to receive a final draft in several weeks.
• Mr. Michels noted that J. Clark Clocks, 113 S. Main St., has added a new
sign on the sign band. He also noted the HPC previously decided to send a
letter to the building owners regarding the need for an overall sign plan.
Mr. Michels, seconded by Mr. Kimbrel, moved to send a letter to the clock
shop owners regarding the need for HPC approval of the sign and to the
Masonic Lodge, building owners, regarding the need to submit an overall
sign plan.
• Sandwich board advertising. Ms. Fitzgerald said it is likely the City
Council will ask that all sandwich board advertising be removed from the
downtown area by the end of the year. It was agreed to have Mr. Kimbrel
draft a letter to the Mayor and City Council pointing out that sandwich
board signs are not a permitted use under the Design Guidelines.
• Mr. Johnson
noted that
there are wall pack lighting units on
the building
northeast of
Staples Mill.
As part of the HPC review, the
lighting was
supposed to
be shielded.
The wall packs should either be
replaced or
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shielded, he said. Ms. Fitzgerald will call Mr. Kellison regarding the
matter.
• Historic light fixtures. Members expressed concern about the height and
the brightness of the sample fixture. Ms. Fitzgerald said she had already
talked to NSP about those two issues. Mr. Kimbrel expressed his concern
that HPC has not been contacted regarding the proposed lighting. It was
the consensus of the members that the NSP fixtures would be appropriate
if the standards are lower and different bulbs of less wattage are used.
Mr. Kimbrel reiterated his concern that the proposal had not come before
the HPC.
Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Michels, moved to send the following
communication to the City Council for the Council's Aug. 6 meeting: The
Heritage Preservation Commission supports the concept of historic
lighting in the downtown area and looks forward to working with the City
Council and City of Stillwater Chamber of Commerce on the final details
of the lighting plan. Motion passed unanimously.
Mr. Michels, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:40
p.m.; all in favor.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary