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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1996-09-04 HPC MINc � • HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION Sept. 4, 1996 Present: Robert Kimbrel, chairman Jeff Johnson, Howard Lieberman, Jay Michels, Brent Peterson, and Roger Tomten Absent: Katherine Francis Others: Sue Fitzgerald, planning Chairman Kimbrel called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. Approval of minutes Mr. Kimbrel asked that the minutes of Aug. 5, 1996, be corrected to indicate that sandwich boards signs are not a permitted use under the city's Sign Ordinance, rather than the Design Guidelines as indicated in the minutes. Mr. Kimbrel also noted that at the August meeting he had requested film to take photos for reference materials; Ms. Fitzgerald said money for film is not available in the budget. Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved approval of the minutes of Aug. 5, 1996, as corrected; all in favor. Case No. DR /SUP /V/96 -54 Design review of exterior sign at 312 S. Main St. Dr. A.G. Rose, applicant. Dr. Rose was present for the discussion and provided a rendering of the proposed signage. Mr. Johnson asked whether there would be signage on the front elevation. Dr. Rose said perhaps at a future date, at which time he would come back before the HPC. Mr. Kimbrel questioned whether allowing two signs on the north elevation met the "spirit" of the guidelines. Mr. Tomten noted that one sign per face elevation is allowable, but the second requested sign over the doorway is such a distance from the primary sign that it shouldn't be a problem. He noted that if the applicant comes back later with a request for a sign on the front of the building, a condition of approval could be removal of the "take out" sign. Mr. Tomten expressed his concern about the orange trim as proposed and that it not be too fluorescent. He also expressed concern about the bright green color currently on several door openings. Mr. Rose explained that the existing green is a rust preventative type undercoating paint; the door will be repainted. Mr. Tomten also suggested that the color of the red fire escape be toned down. Mr. Tomten moved approval with the additional condition that the applicant provide paint chip color samples for the sign, door, and fire escape for staff review. Mr. Johnson seconded the motion, noting that internal lighting is not permitted; he suggested that the applicant look at Traditions as an example of the exterior lighting possibilities. Motion passed unanimously. Case No. DR/96 -26 Design review of exterior sign at 113 S. Main St. J Clark Clocks and Watches, applicant. The applicant was not present. Due to a concern about the lack of a sign plan for the building, the case was continued until the next meeting; Ms. Fitzgerald will write a letter to the building owners asking that an overall sign plan be prepared and submitted for review. Case No. DR/V/96 -55 Design review of exterior sign at 14298 60th St. N. Larry and Richard Rose, applicants. The applicants were not present. The case was reconsidered later in the meeting. Ms. Fitzgerald provided photos of the front elevation. It was the consensus that the request was appropriate for the location of the building, and the requested signage did not seem oversized. Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Tomten moved approval. The motion was amended to add the condition that the size and scale of the signage be review by staff; motion passed unanimously. Case No. DR/96 -27 Design review of temporary sign for Stillwater Yacht Club, 422 E. Mulberry St., Marina Development, applicant. Daniel Hawkes represented the applicant. Most of the discussion centered on the location of the sign on public right -of -way. Mr. Hawkes explained the applicant hoped to get approval of the sign and then discuss the location of the sign with city public works and MnDOT. The sign will be natural wood, blue with white lettering. 0 0 Mr. Johnson moved approval of use of the temporary sign as proposed until June 30, 1997, noting the applicant could request a time extension at that time if the levee project has not been completed. Mr. Johnson also noted the HPC's concern is with the aesthetics of the signage; the location issue will be dealt with by other agencies. Mr. Kimbrel seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously. Case No. DR/96 -29 Design review of exterior signage at 210 N. Main St. Cindie Sinclair, applicant. Ms. Sinclair was present for the discussion. Most of the discussion centered on the placement of the sign in relation to the trellis and a concern about sight distance from Commercial Street. Mr. Lieberman moved approval with the additional condition that the applicant work with staff regarding placement of the sign on site, considering both aesthetics and safety issues. Mr. Michels seconded the motion; all in favor. Case No. DR/96 -28 Design review of rest benches in the Stillwater area. U.S. Bench Corp., applicant. Scott Danielson represented the applicant. Mr. Tomten explained that according to the city's ordinance, the HPC is to review signage in both the downtown area and the West Business District. And according to the Sign Ordinance, the advertising on the bus benches is not an allowable use. Mr. Danielson explained that generally the MTCO receives requests for placement of the benches, and U.S. Bench Corp. gets sponsorship for the benches. There was some discussion regarding the existing MTCO route and stops in the city. Mr. Tomten pointed out that the location of the benches and signage on the benches are two different issues. Mr. Tomten moved to deny U.S. Bench Corp. benches in the downtown area and the West Business District based on non - conformance with the city's Sign Ordinance due to the presence of signage on the benches. Mr. Johnson seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously. Mr. Johnson noted that it will be up to the City Council to deal with the location of benches in other areas of the city. • Commission membership renewals -- Ms. Fitzgerald noted that technically membership renewals need to be advertised as membership openings. Members up for renewal this year are Mr. Tomten, Mr. Michels and Ms. Francis. Also, she said members should be thinking about electing a chairman at the first of the year. • Mr. Peterson distributed copies of a brochure for the Sept. 21 RTR house tour. Mr. Lieberman, seconded by Mr. Tomten moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:35 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Sharon Baker Recording Secretary