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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1998-04-06 HPC MINnter THE STILLWATER HERITXCA I SE'RVFAT"UO SIDN WILL MEET MONDAY, APRIL 6, 1998 at 6-30 p.m. CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS CITY HALL 216 N. FOURTH STREET *Note above time change. AGENDA Approval of March 2 and March 16, 1998 minutes. Design review of proposed Kiosks for Downtown area. 2. Case No SUP/DR/98-17. Design review of the modification of an existing bed and breakfast (Sauntry Bed and Breakfast) to increase the number of bedrooms from five to six. 626 North Fourth Street. Arthur and Elaine Halbardier, applicants. Case No. DR/98-4. Design review of a proposed gazebo at 220 East Myrtle Street. David and Carol Hurley, applicants. 4. Case No. DEM/98-2. Demolition request for residence at 910 Seventh St. Deborah and Jerald Lawson, applicants. 5. Case No. DR/98-5. Design review of exterior signage and exterior modifications. Sandy Hudson, applicant. 6. Case No. DR/98-6. Design review of exterior signage for Eagle Valley Bank at 1946 Washington Ave. S. Iver Kammerud, applicant. 7. Case No. DR/98-7. Design review of exterior signage at 1725 Tower Drive West. Bob Bankers, applicant. Case No. DR/98-8. Design review of exterior signage for Firstar Bank at 6001 Stillwater Blvd. Scott Nelson, applicant. Case No. DR/98-9, Design review of exterior kiosk at Firstar Bank at 213 E. Chestnut Street. Cynthia Gustafson, applicant. 10. Case No. SUP/DR/98-22. Design review of proposed parking lot at Lakeview Hospital at 1105 and 1112 South Everett Street. BWBR Architects, applicant. IL Case No. V/DR/98-23. Design review of exterior signage for Famous Daves at 14200 60`h Street North. Doug Lanham representing Famous Daves, applicant.. 12. Case No. DR/98-10.Design review of office building at 6750Stillwater Blvd. Bruce Fokken, applicant. Other Items: a. Review of 2°d draft of Greeley Residential Architectural Survey. b. Nominations 1997 HPC awards. CITY HALL: 216 NORTH FOURTH STILLWATER, MINNESOTA 55082 PHONE: 612-439-6121 • M t Heritage Preservation Commission April 6, 1998 Present: Roger Tomten, chairperson Howard Lieberman, Katherine Francis, Jeff Johnson, Frank Lang er Jay Michels and Brent Peterson Absent: Robert Kimbrel Also present: Planner Sue Fitzgerald Mr. Tomten called the meeting to order at 6:32 p.m. A r val of inutes Mr. Johnson noted a correction to the miunuuts s of M �an the top floor as 16 — 825 feet is the elevation of the top of the roof of the proposed condoms , also asked that the minutes stated in the minutes. Mr. Johnson t 's con that project stated of reflect that his amendment to the motion regarding Mr. Ro g er gu idelines and does that the height of the structure as pro posed of the March desi � minutes as corrected not meet design guidelines. Mr. Mich els moved approved and the March 2 meeting as presented. Mr. Peterson seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously. Case No SLTp/DR/98 -17 Resign review of modification of an exis . At be r and Elaine Halbardie , N. Fourth St. to increase the number of bedrooms from five to applicants. The applicants were present for the discussion. on the or dinan ce hick limits bed and breakfast Mr. Johnson moved to deny the request based facilities to five guest rooms. Mr. Lieberman seconded the motion. Mr. Halbardier pointed out that one year ago, the owners of the James Mulvey B &B were allowed to increase the number of guest rooms from five ttosse en. Mr- o op son d t req was unique in that it involved two separate structures and sep arate said the building inspector has said the apartment they wish f to the ditto vverified room could be made a separate structure with the addition o a fire wall; that is the opinion of the city's building official, Alan Zeppe said converting the apartm n t 1 a question has been used as an apartment since the 1920s. He f the themselves and the B &B unit will be a less intrusive use and a better use o orin e residents who supported the neighbors; Mr. Halbardier had a list of a number of neighb g request. Mr. Langer stated he lives nearby and the B &B operation does not create a problem for neighbors in any Way- Mr. Johnson said that granting a request that involver suggested that the fact that the is more of a City Council issue than an HPC issue. M Lieberman Mansion different than other unit in question has been a separate apartment makes the Sauntr}' • Ir Heritage Preservation Commission April 6, 1998 B &Bs; he also noted the Sauntry Mansion has square footage in excess of the ordinance requirements and has sufficient parking to accommodate the additional guest room. Motion to deny the request failed on a 6 -1 vote, with Mr. Johnson voting in favor. Mr. Lieberman moved to approve the request, as conditioned, due to the unique nature /size of the property, the fact that the apartment has been used as living quarters since the 1920s, and there is adequate parking. Mr. Johnson seconded the motion, also noting a one - bedroom rental unit is being replaced by one B &B unit. Motion passed unanimously. Case No. DR/98 -4 Design review of a proposed gazebo at 220 E. Myrtle St. David and Carol Hurley, applicants. The applicants were present. Mr. Michels, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval of the request as presented; motion passed unanimously. Case No. DEM198 -2 Demolition request for residence at 910 S. Seventh St. Deborah and Jerald Larson, applicants. The applicants were present for the discussion. Mr. Tomten pointed out this is the third demolition request to be considered under the city's new ordinance, the first request where the Community Development Director has asked the HPC to made a recommendation regarding the potentially historic significance of the structure. Mr. Tomten suggested that an important consideration would be the applicants' plans for replacing the structure. Mr. Lieberman said he would be uncomfortable considering any more demolition requests until contradictions in the language of the ordinance are resolved. What is being planned for the property is not relevant, he said. Mr. Langer pointed out the ordinance clearly requires nine steps for demolition of structures over 50 years old. Mr. Johnson agreed with Mr. Lieberman's concerns regarding the need to make editing corrections to the ordinance as currently written. Mr. Johnson noted determination of historic or potentially historic significance involves not just one building, but rather the "fabric" of the entire neighborhood, and whether the new structure will blend in with the feel and scale of the neighborhood and not be seen as an intrusion. Mr. Johnson suggested that the applicants follow the required nine steps and provide additional information at the HPC's May meeting regarding plans and how the new structure will fit into the neighborhood. Mrs. Larson expressed a concern that getting a building inspector's evaluation of the condition of the structure might be costly; Mr. Johnson noted the Larsons' contractor should be able to provide that assessment at minimal cost. 2 • • M Heritage Preservation Commission April 6, 1998 Mr. Lieberman moved to table the request and invite the Larson to submit a demolition plan for review at the May meeting, with the hopes that inconsistencies in the ordinance are resolved by that time. Ms. Francis seconded the motion. Mrs. Larson asked for some indication as to whether their proposed plans might be acceptable. Mr. Johnson said he would encourage the Larsons to look at other options to the garage forward as proposed; Mr. Tomten said city staff could help with resources for other plans. Motion to table passed unanimously. Case No. DR/98 -5 Resign review of exterior signage and exterior modifications. Sandy Hudson, applicant. Ms. Hudson was not present. The request was tabled and considered later in the meeting. Ms. Fitzgerald said the request is for an "open" banner, similar to James Laskin's; the banner would be removed when the business is closed. Laskin's banner is 10" by 30 ". Mr. Johnson noted a previous condition that a shutter be installed over the new window opening. Mr. Johnson moved to approve allowing a 10" by 30" banner with the lettering "open"; as a condition, the banner is not to be used until the required shutters are installed. Mr. Peterson seconded the motion; all in favor. Mr. Tomten suggested that the use of banners be reviewed in the upgrading/revision of the Downtown Design Guidelines. Mr. Johnson expressed a concern with Ms. Hudson's use of outdoor tables due to the narrowness of the pedestrian walkway. Case No. DR/98 -6 Design review of exterior signage for Eagle Valley Bank at 1946 Washington Ave. S. Iver Kammerud, applicant. Mr. Kammerud and Sam Boatman, bank manager, were present. Mr. Kammerud said the temporary signage has been removed as requested. Mr. Michels, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval as conditioned; all in favor. Case No. DR/98 -7 Design review of exterior signage at 1725 Tower Dr. W., Bob Bankers, applicant. Mr. Bankers reviewed the proposed coloring for the requested internally lit sign. Mr. Michels asked if there is enough space to accommodate signage for the second building; Mr. Bankers responded in the affirmative. Mr. Michels also asked if a landscape plan had been submitted; a plan has been submitted. Mr. Michels, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved approval as conditioned. Motion passed unanimously. 3 0 a Heritage Preservation Commission April 6, 1998 Sase_ o DR/9848 Design review of exterior signage for Firstar Bank, 6001 Stillwater Blvd. Scott Nelson, applicant. Mr. Nelson was not present. Members were in agreement the request was straightforward and could be considered without the applicant's presence. It was noted the requested signage is within the allowable guidelines for size, and it was suggested the gable looks blank without any signage. Mr. Michels, seconded by Mr. Peterson, moved approval as conditioned; motion passed unanimously. Case No DR/98 -9 Design review of exterior kiosk at Firstar Bank, 213 E. Chestnut St. Cynthia Gustafson, applicant. Joe Hamilton, architect, represented the applicant. Mr. Tomte said, asked opinion, Hamilton what does not meet the Downtown Design Guidelines. Mr Tomten alternatives had been considered. Mr. Hamilton said Firstar has looked at e eral options, including a masonry base and metal fabrications suggesting a turn-of-the-century design; there also has been some discussion regarding the possibility of cutting the kiosk into one of the planters in the plaza area. However, Mr. Hamilton said the alternatives were too costly, in the bank's estimation. Mr. Hamilton also said if the City does not approve the kiosk as proposed, it will likely be moved to the interior of the bank lobby. Mr. Michels moved to deny the request based on the Design Guidelines. He suggested that the bank consider working with the planters in order to make the kiosk more pedestrian- oriented. Mr. Lieberman seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously. Case No V/DR/98 -23 Design review of exterior signage for Famous Dave's at 14200 60 St. N. Doug Lanham representing Famous Dave's, applicant. Ben Welshons and Howard Polsky represented the applicant. Mr. Michels said he felt the proposed signage fits more with the other buildings in the area; he moved approval, as spelled out in the agenda packet, with the condition that the pylon sign be removed. Mr. Peterson seconded the motion. Ms. Fitzgerald cautioned about setting a precedent in allowing signage on three sides of the building. Mr. Polsky and Mr. Welshons spoke of the difficulty of motorists seeing the business from Highway 36. Mr. Johnson noted that the requested signage on the sides of the building would be of temporary advantage only; as the area is developed, the visibility of the signage on the side elevations would be diminished. Mr. Johnson asked why the approved signage for the gable was never installed; he suggested that allowing the gable signage to include channel -lit lettering might provide the desired visibility. El • � r Heritage Preservation Commission April 6, 1998 Mr. Michels motion for approval failed 3 -4, with Mr. Lieberman, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Francis and Mr. Tomten voting no.. Mr. Johnson moved to allow the previously approved exterior signage and to allow the gable sign to be internally or back -lit up to a size allowed by ordinance. Motion passed 5 -2, with Mr. Michels and Mr. Peterson voting no. Case No DR/98 -10 Design review of office building at 6750 Stillwater Blvd. Bruce Fokken, applicant. Mr. Fokken outlined plans for an office building between KinderCare and the Oasis Market. Mr. Johnson noted there are covenants on that site that should be made part of the conditions of approval. Mr. Tomten noted that the applicant exceeds parking requirements. He suggested that if some parking spaces are eliminated, it might be possible to save the mature trees on the lot. There also was discussion regarding using wooden fencing along the rear property line, rather that the masonry wall as included in the conditions of approval. Mr. Michels noted there are existing drainage problems in the area. Mr. Johnson moved approval as conditioned, with the additional condition that all site covenants be honored; that the mechanicals be screened with plantings; that rather than a masonry wall, a cedar fence of the same height be considered in an effort to preserve trees; that the height of poles for exterior lighting be reduced to 16 -20 feet; and that the applicant provide parking spaces of a number no more or no less than required by the ordinance. Ms. Francis seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously. Design review of downtown kiosks James Laskin of the City of Stillwater Chamber of Commerce was present to request approval for installation of several information kiosks. He also showed members a sample of the bracket for the hanging planters that will be installed along Main Street. Mr. Laskin explained the request is to place the information kiosks in the small park by Season's Tique, another at the north end of downtown in front of Staples Mill and another at the new sports facility. He showed samples of the kiosks and proposed "roof' design; members favored either the rounded or triangular "roof." Mr. Lieberman moved approval of the placement of the black metal kiosks, with either the rounded or triangular roof design, at the three requested locations, with the conditions that all information be placed inside the kiosks and that the kiosks be maintained on a regular basis. Ms. Francis seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously. Other business Greeley Survey: Members were asked to forward any comments they might have on the second draft of the survey to Mr. Empson. 5 lil Heritage Preservation Commission April 6, 1998 Heritage Preservation Award nominations: Members discussed possible nominations in the various categories. Those present were in consensus to give the award for new development to the Washington County Historical Society's Carriage House at the Warden's House Museum, and to present the award for best fagade to Sammie's Women's Casual Attire. Because Mr. Lieberman had to leave after the regular business and because several members were unfamiliar with one of the possible honorees in the signage category, winners in the other categories were not determined until after the regular meeting. The other winners for 1997 are Maple Island Hardware for best reuse of an existing building, and Tasteful Thymes and Grandma's House for signage. Ms. Fitzgerald asked for volunteers to serve on the Aiple Property Planning group. Mr. Johnson and Mr. Michels expressed an interest. Mr. Michels raised the issue of the bus bench in Pioneer Park. It was the consensus of members to ask staff to remove the bench. Ms. Fitzgerald said the new play equipment will be installed in Pioneer Park in the near future. Mr. Johnson expressed a concern about the number of agenda items; he suggested shortening the deadline for submission of applications as a way of controlling future agendas. Mr. Johnson moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:45 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Sharon Baker Recording Secretary 2