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Stillwater, Minnesota September 30, 1980 7:30 P. M.
SPECIAL MEETING
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Junker.
The Invocation was given by the City Clerk.
Present: Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger
Peterson, and Mayor Junker
Absent: Councilman Powell
Also Present: Finance Director /Coordinator, Kriesel; City Clerk, Schnell;
City Attorney, Magnuson; Superintendent of Public Works,
Shelton; Consulting Engineers, Elliott and Moore
Press:
Citizens:
None
James Lammers, Richard Anderson, Mr. & Mrs. Leonard Feely,
Mr. & Mrs. Loyd Anez, Joel Anez, Barbara Avise, Jim Torseth;
Neal Skinner, John Ogren
INDIVIDUALS AND DELEGATIONS
1. JAMES LAMMERS appeared before the Council regarding a Conditional Use Permit for
Judy and Richard Anderson to move his emergency shelter from 306 West Olive
Street to a four plex at 310 West Myrtle Street. Three of the units will to
used as living quarters for up to 16 juveniles - they plan to have two full time
people there 24 hours per day to supervise - they will use the fourth unit for
the earing and office area. This is a facility that is licensed by the state -
under the State law essentially in an area that is zoned for apartment dwellings
this type of use up to 16 juveniles is considered to be a permitted use under
the zoning ordinances by State Statute. The State Statute does state that the
Council does have the right to issue a Conditional Use Permit - if the Council
feels that it is necessary for the benefit and the protection of the people
living within the facility - it is unlike the normal Conditional Use Permit
where the primary concern is the surrounding area - by State Statute this is a
permittee use and the Conditional Use Permit should address itself to the
protection of the people living within the unit. It is their opinion and the
opinion by Harold Kimmel at the time of the original permit that a Conditional
Use Permit is not required under the ordinances or the statutes; however, the
Anderson's have applied for a Conditional Use Permit because of the fact that
the Council deemed it necessary and wise to issue such a permit for the prior
home. The Andersons are willing to have the sane conditions imposed on this
permit as were imposed on the previous permit - that is they must comply with
all of the requirements of the state licensing agency - the facility must be
reviewed by the City Building Inspector, and City Fire Chief (inspected by the
State) and any and all conditions that they impose they have no objections to
becoming a part of this Conditional Use Permit. It was their hope that they
would not have to go through the normal hearing process on this request.
COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK asked if Mr. Anderson had contacted any of the neighbors
on this.
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other owner and he was not contacted - but he was not opposed to the other site.
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COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON asked Mr. Magnuson if he could see any problems in
issuing a Conditional Use Permit with the same conditions that were set forth
on the other unit.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that he did not - at the time that it was originally opened
there it was Harold's opinion that a Conditional Use Permit was not needed and
then a couple of years later when the Council took a look at it again, he was
of the opinion that it did need a permit and that was because the Zoning Ordinance
requires a permit for any boarding house, rooming house and rest -home - it was
close enough in his estimation that it have a permit. At the same time when Jim
says about the requirements is correct - it is permitted as a lawful permitted
use in a residential district by State Statute and the :only restrictions that we
can put on there - they can't be any more restrictive than any other restrictions
that the City puts on a Conditional Use Permit within that zoning district - they
can be imposed for the safety of the inhabitants of the building. Rather than
trying to protect neighbors - you are concerned what the neighbors think and that
is why notices were sent - in this case you are concerned about the neighbors you
are concerned about the residents in the building and that it is not too important
to have a public hearing.
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MAYOR JUNKER stated that he would hate to have ten outlaws in that house and
he would be the neighbor there - there has to be some concern by somebody and
questioned if they were burglarized and it goes to court that the City of
Stillwater stand behind the kid that burglarized five apartments - that the
City's only concern is the 15 kids that are sleeping in that four plex.
MR. LAMMERS stated that the way that they have run the other home is evidence
that they do run a tight ship and they do run a good home - over and above
that they are carefully supervised by the County and the State - this house
will have 24 hour supervision and every reasonable precaution is taken by the
State to make sure that it is a properly run facility and will not constitute
a danger or any other kind of nuisance to the surrounding area. If they do,
then their license is put in jeopardy - he felt that the safeguards are there
and they are constantly supervised by the people who are familiar with this
type of thing. One advantage of this proposal is moving it more out of a what
is really a residential area to much more of a Commercial area.
MAYOR JUNKER had concerns that the Andersons would no longer live at the house
and MR. LAIMIERS stated that under the State law and the ordinances this is a
permitted use, which is permitted in this district. The present home will no
longer be used as a shelter for juveniles, and a change in use at 306 West
Olive would have to come to the Council.
On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman
Bodlovick, the Council granted a Conditional Use Permit for 310 West Myrtle
Street as an emergency shelter for juveniles with the same conditions as set
forth on the Conditional Use Permit at 306 West Olive Street. (all in favor)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. This was the day and time for the public hearing on the proposed assessments
for Local Improvement No. 173.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette, the
official newspaper of the City, on September 16, 1980 and copies were mailed
to all property owners proposed to be assessed and benefited by this improvement.
The Mayor opened the hearing.
MR. ELLIOTT briefly reviewed the project which involved the construction of
Washington Avenue from Curve Crest Blvd. to Orleans Street and a watermain
following the same route.
The City policy for assessing in a commercial area is to assessed a street
improvement on an acreage basis to the abutting property and the watermain on an
acre basis to the area served by the abutting watermain. The estimated costs of
the street assessment was $7,350 per acre - the assessed amount will be $6,351
per acre which is less than the estimated amount. Sanitary sewer and watermain
were also included as part of the Washington Avenue improvement - sanitary sewer
was estimated at $2,216 per acre - the assessment is $1,978.43 per acre; the
watermain was estimated at $3,250 per acre - the assessment is $3,607. per acre.
JIM TORSETH, representing Oscar Kern, Bill Pauley, Neal Skinner and himself, inquired
about the oversizing of the watermain running down to Croixwood; (2) where was a
questions previously concerning the right -of -way that had to be acquired for this
project - since basically for the previous improvements these were dedicated and
there was a question as to how this would be handled on this project; (3) could
not figure out where the cost of grading and the improvement of the thirty foot
gravel road was assessed; (4) they have noticed a very rough transition on the
north bound lane of Washington Avenue where the existing blacktop and the new
blacktop come together at Washington and Curve Crest - (he requested that the
engineers take a look at this matter); (5) he noticed that basically the boule-
vards were hydro - seeded in the area of the cut made through for New Orleans and
the other parts of the project were not and there is quite a bit of erosion
down onto the street, which was in sod before, (6) he was looking at a watermain
cost of $125,600 and according to the assessment roll it looks like $222,466. The
per acre assessment was about $400 to $500 more and he did not feel that there
were that many acres involved to come out of that amount of difference, which
would be 777 higher.
MR. ELLIOTT responded to these questions - the oversized main - 16 inches - was
assessed to the benefited property; inasmuch as the benefited property is commercial
and industrial land that enjoyed the benefit of the oversized main more than an
oversized main in a residential area - it is true that in a previous improvement
specifically Orrin Thompson Croixwood improvement the City Water Department did
share the difference between the 12 and 16 inch main that being a residential area.
The negotiations relative to right -of -way costs really came right down to the
wire until this evening; therefore, two assessment rolls were prepared -the one
that was on file did have all of the easement costs in it and that is the one that
Mr. Torseth used. It appears now that there is an agreement that there will be
no easement costs and all of the easements which were estimated at some thirty
five thousand dollars will be donated and the cost will be zero against this project.
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There is one consideration for future projects - because of the align-
ment of Orleans Street in the vicinity of the Tom Thumb Store, that alignment
^• was required by the County to achieve a near 90 degree intersection or Orleans
Street and the County Road for traffic purposes and this will come from the
Croixgate Property to the south. In the future when that road is surfaced
there will be a consideration to relieve some of the right -of -way costs that
will be borne by one owner at the time the surfacing is done - that could be
a long way off since there is no sanitary sewer there. With respect to the
grading of Orleans Street and the miminal gravel surface that was put on that
was included in the watermain costs borne by all those involved in the water -
main improvement - it was necessary to grade in a preliminary way that site
in order to bury the watermain at the proper depth - that is not intended to
be a roadway - it will provide access by the City to the watermain for mainten-
nance purposes - there is discussion perhaps that this may not even be a plowed
route in the winter -time They did do some special erosion protection in that
area because of the steep slopes and did not do that in boulevard areas since
these will be disturbed when the abutting properties are improved and this
would be wasteful.
The hearing was recessed to give the property owners time to
discuss their assessments with the engineers.
There was a written objection filed by Paul D. Emerson and Ann E. Emerson
on this proposed assessment.
2 This was the day and time for the public hearing on the proposed assessments
for Local Improvement No. 171.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette, the
official newspaper of the City on September 15, 1980 and copies were mailed to
all property owners proposed to be assessed and benefited by this improvement.
The Mayor opened the hearing.
MR. ELLIOTT stated that the improvement included two contracts - one City and
one County contract. The work precipitated by the County's plan for improving
County Road #66 from Trunk Highway 36 to approximately Orleans Street and in
accordance with past agreements with the County, the City through assessments
to abutting property owners would be asked to share in sidewalks, curb and
gutters, easements, right -of -way and drainage. In addition the City had a
petition for the improvement of 63rd Street and related utilities - the only
utilities that remain at this time to be put in was watermain. The improve-
ments that are necessary were storm sewer that would serve an area generally
bounded by Industrial Blvd. on the west, Orleans Street on the North, County 66
(Greeley Street) and a line about two to three hundred feet east of Greeley
Street and Trunk Highway 36 on the south. The total cost of the improvement
$444,425.84; the estimated cost of the County related improvements on County
Road No. 66 - $23.05 per running foot - the assessed amount if $22.13; services
that were put in under the County or City contract were assessed individually
to benefited properties; 63rd Street and the watermain on 63rd Street (which
is now called Curve Crest Blvd.) was assessed to the abutting property - the
street was assessed at $6,000 per acre which is the fiture that the Council had
established based upon the proposed assessment of Cruve Crest Blvd. through
the Feely property. The storm sewer which serves the area that he outlined -
the estimated cost was $0.59 per square foot - the assessed amount is $0.409
per square foot.
JAMES LAMMERS filed with the City Clerk "Notice of objection to Proposed Assess-
ment" primarily because of the fact that these property owners have not had
sufficient time to review the proposed assessment rolls - they were not filed
until Friday and this is just to preserve any rights that they may have insofar
as any future appeals that they may have. The objections were for the following
properties:
11159 -2950; 11159 -3000, 11159 -3050 - Charles M. Hooley
9033 -2366 - George W. Olsen
All parcels in the Feely Plat - Mr. & Mrs. Leonard Feely
JOEL ANEZ, appeared in behalf of his parents, Mr. & Mrs. Lloyd Anez, and they
also requested more time to review these assessments.
He inquired as to who was responsible for the storm sewer in April 1975 and
MR. ELLIOTT stated that the outlet pipe near Somerset Systems was installed by
Stillwater Township and the engineer was Carli.
He asked if they would be assessed for drinage to the east of this property
and the possibility of overlapping assessment for drainage.
MR. ELLIOTT stated that he did not feel that would ever be done - any parcel of
land within the City should only be assessed once for storm sewer - short of
fifty years from now when the facility is deteriorated and it has to be replaced,
but we have never assessed a parcel of land - there has never been an overlap
of boundaries because it would not stand up as a fair assessment as the water
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can only go the one way to one system. He felt that the property to the east
one day will have to have some drainage assessment and they will be assessed
for it and this is a matter of record here at the City - the data that he
has will be on file with the City on a graphical map which is available for the
people to see.
LLOYD ANEZ felt that he should have a little more time to think about it - should
also know much everybody is being assessed along the line.
MAYOR JUNRER DECLARED A RECESS FROM 8:15 to 8:25 P. M.
- -- CONTINUATION OF THE HEARING ON LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 173 --
JIM TORSETH made reference to the over -run on the watermain assessments and that
they did find in discussing this with Mr. Elliott that it was not a 77% over -run
because of the easements now are not being included; however, there still remains
a 299, over - estimate over the figures that they were going by when they were here
back in August of 1979 - at this time he objected to adoption of this assessment
roll until such time as the engineering firm has had a chance to answer their
question as to why there is such an over - estimate on this particular aspect of the
job.
MR. ELLIOTT stated that the figure that any property owner should be concerned
with is the assessment per unit - in this case they are per acre - their report
estimated the cost to be $3,250 per acre - the final assessment is $3,607 per
acre - not 497, more but close to 10% more - the total number varies, but the unit
cost is the one that affects his property.
Back in 1979 they had a report that said that the cost of the watermain
would be $125,000 and it ended up costing $188,000. The cost per acre only went
up 107, because they apparently under- estimated the acreage that was benefited
by the improvement and the unit cost did come fairly close to what they had
estimated sometime ago. If they were using their numbers for pricing their
property, etc., it is true that they may have been off about 10% but no 49 %.
The Mayor closed the hearing.
On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman
Bodlovick, a resolution was introduced "ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLL
FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 173 SETTING THE TIME OF PAYMENT AT TWENTY
YEARS AND THE INTEREST RATE TO BE 7A % ".
AYES: Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson,
and Mayor Junker
NAYS: None (see resolutions)
- -- CONTINUATION OF THE HEARING ON LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 171- -
JOHN OGREN filed an objection to the amount of his assessments - tomorrow he will
meet with the engineers and discuss how and why his properties were assessed - he
felt that they were about twice what they were indicated earlier. He wanted to
be on record as being in objection this was for his parcels in the City and in
the Township - he also owns the Schomeckel property.
MR. MAGNUSON explained the payment procedures for the paument of these assess-
ments, and the right of appeal.
DONALD RALEIGH filed with the City Clerk a written objection to the assessments
to Parcel 95033 -2200 for Rivertown Company under agreement with Finnemann
Enterprises, Inc.
The Mayor closed the hearing.
On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconeed by Councilman Harry
Peterson, a resolution was introduced "ADOPTING THE ASSESSMENT ROLL
FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 171 AND SETTING PAYMENT PERIOD FOR TWENTY
YEARS AND THE INTEREST RATE AT 73/4% ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1. On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, the
Council authorized the admini,trative corrections in the assessment roll for
Local Improvement No. 175 for two parcels. (all in favor)
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NEW BUSINESS
1. On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick,
the City Attorney was directed to prepare £ Lily s ni ty tan HHoldd Harmless
and Ray
Agreement with respect to the Pumping y Lake
Burton properties. (all in favor)
RESOLUTIONS
The following resolutions were read and on roll call were unanimously
adopted:
1. Adopting the Assessment Roll for Local Improvement No. 173.
2. Adopting the Assessment Roll for Local Improvement No. 171.
ADJOURNMENT
On motion of Councilman Harry Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick,
the meeting adjourned at 8:50 P. M.
Attest: •
City Clerk
Mayor
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