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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980-08-19 CC MIN• ■ • '../ COUNCIL CHAMBERS Stillwater, Minnesota REGULAR MEETING The meeting was called to order by Mayor Junker. Present: Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker Absent: None Also Present: Finance Director /Coordinator, Kriesel; City Clerk, Schnell; Superintendent of Publi.. Works, Shelton, Fire Chief, David Chial; Building Official, Allen Zepper; Director of Parks and Recreation, Blekum; Consulting Engineers, Moore and Elliott. Press: Julie Edstrom, Free Press Citizens: None INDIVIDUALS- DELEGATIONS None PUBLIC SAFETY None FIRE CHIEF No report COMMITTEE REPORTS August 19, 1980 4:00 P. M. BUILDING OFFICIAL MR. ZEPPER distributed to the Council his request for additional help with the backup information for this request which was made at the last Council meeting. He stated that it does not include anything for the annexation of the Johnson property and stated that if anyone wishes to spend the day with him, they are welcome to do so. MR. KRIESEL felt that the Connell could look at this report between now and the time of the budget meetings - he felt thet there could very well be a need for additionalteople after checking with other communities he found our that they had either two full time people or at least another part -time person. He would like to talk to the Council about hiring a person as a Zoning Administrator as well as a Building Official. PUBLIC WORKS 1. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Roger Peterson, a resolution was introduced "AUTHORIZING THE INSTALLATION OF A STOP SIGN AT THE INTERSECTION OF WEST ORLEANS STREET AND COUNTY ROAD NO. 5" (Traffic will be stopped on Orleans going west). AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS - -0 (see resolutions) 2. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, the Council authorized the installation. of NO PARKING signs by the First National Bank Drive -In exit and their exit from the underground parking and also one at the corner of South Third and West Olive Street on the west side. (all in favor) 3. There was discussion on the repair of the fence on North Second Street by Pioneer Park and whether should be repair of the current fence or put in a chain link fence. The matter of the repair of the Willard Street stairs and fence should +m also be considered and the storm sewer outlet at the top of the stairs. 185' • • • • • 1 1 p • ° (1786 August 19, 1980 COUNCILWOMAN EODLOVICK made a motion that if the money is available that the fence at Pioneer Park be repaired and after some discussion this motion was withdrawn. MR. KRIESEL will check out possible financing for these projects by using some of the bond money and Mr. Shelton will get some quotes for the repair of this fence. PARKS AND RECREATION 1. There was discussion on the building at the Ramsey /Grove Park and also the electricity to be used for this park for the skating rink - Mr. Blekum will get some quotes and put this in the budget for 1981. COUNCILMAN POWELL brought up the matter of the free tree program and that they order a ematies quantity and property owners wishing same would pick up their trees and this Mould save some money which could be used for other purposes - purchase only §2,000 worth. COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK also offered another suggestion of purchasing the trees and replanting them and then digging them up for property owners that wish to have them. MR. BLEKUM felt that both of these programs would be hard to administer. MR. KRIESEI stated that the City did receive $6,000 from the Margaret Rivers Foundation for the work to be done at the arena and we actually have that $6,000 and it could be used for this park and it would be possible to use some of the bond money for this improvement and then make a transfer of this $6,000. The conclusion was to continue the free tree program for 1981 and Mr. Blekum will get quotes for the work to be done at Ramsey /Grove Park. CONSULTING ENGINEERS 1. MR. ELLIOTT distributed the drainage report to the Council on the Augustine Plat and this was discussion with the Council on this matter. He felt that Stillwater Township and Oak Park Heights have copies of this report for their review. The alignment of 61st Street has not been approved by Oak Park Heights and the planner for Oak Park Heights has approved it. Discussion continued as to where the drainage for Rivertown Inn would go and it was reported that most of this would go into the Kern Pond and there were questions raised about the north end of the property - this portion will not be developed at this time - when it is developed they will have to provide drainage for that portion of the property. They will be developing about five acres of this property - there was discussion about the extension of 63rd Street to Osgood Avenue and the alignment of same since there are apartments to the south of the cemetery. MR. ELLIOTT was directed to send this report to Oak Park Heights for their review. 2. MR. ELLIOTT reported on the condition of the Northland Pond (Pizinger Pond) - the pond shows a lot of growth which is farily commong this year - he stated that he had Don Patton out at the Edgewood Ditch and early steps are going to be taken to do some corrective work and get the water draining in the ditch so that it will dry up so that the problem can be solved. 3. MR. ELLIOTT reported that he and others had met with Bill Murray at Muller Boat Works regarding the drainage in that area and he and David Magnuson will make a joint report to the Council on this problem. 4. MR. ELLIOTT reviewed the watermain project for Brown Creek Heights Addition (Joe Gould Property). There are nine units within the Joe Gould Development and there are about 24 other possible units to be assessed and the City park area. The present watermain is constructed up to River Heights Drive on North Second Street and also the curb and gutter ends at that point. The proposal would be to run the watermain down Second Street to Hazel and then on Hazel and then into Brown Creek Heights. He stated that there are quite a few Senior Citizens in this area so there will be some deferred assessments for this improvement. There was also discussion about extending a sewer main in that area and dead -end it and not put in the services at this time - there will have to be a ten foot separation between the two pipes unless cast iron is used and there will have to be two trenches in any event. 1 0 @ i WI 1 • • • s • • a 1 • • August 19, 1980 1811'1 s PM es • There was discussion about the finances for this improvement and it was suggested that it could possibly come from the sewer rebate money - Mr. Kriesel is going to review this account and see where we sent at this time since this money is currently being used for sewer usage to the Metro Waste in lieu of raising rates to the individuals home owner. The Council felt that most of these older people do not want this improve- ment, but that it should be available for the future when those homes are torn down and replaced with new ones. The estimated cost of the improvement is about $128,550.00. MR. KRIESEL stated that he would check with Mr. Langness about issuing twenty year bonds on this project and that Joe Gould would pay the assessments on his lots as they are sold. It would be scheduled so that the $28,000 could be paid within ten years and the bonds can be floated for twenty years. He further reported that Mr. Gould would be paying about $36,000. MR. ELLIOTT will prepare the study on extending the sewer and Mr. Kriesel will check on the bonding. This is a State -Aid Street up to Willow and with sewer and water in there it could become an improved street. With extending the sewer and dead - ending it, the City could not assess same until it is put into use. There was discussion about future development in this area and the services that would be required for same. MR. ELLIOTT questioned whether the Council wants to put in sewer for the Joe Gould Development since the current plans is for on -site systems, and he made reference to the sewer study that was done in 1974 which was a very expensive project and the cost at that time was about five or six thousand dollars. CITY CLERK'S REPORT None CITY COORDINATOR'S REPORT 1. MR. KRIESEL reported that the City will receive 507 reimbursement on the Diseased Tree Program for 1980 - the estimated amount that we will receive from the State is approximately $45,208 and he recommended 507 reimbursement to the property owners. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick the Council authorized the 50% reimbursement for the property owners for the removal of diseased elm trees. (all in favor) and 2. Waste on Augusta20thi- Ode af Metro list off property owners in the City that are hooked up to the Oak Park Heights sewer lines, but we bill Country Kitchen and others and there are others that are in Oak Park Heights who go into the City of Stillwater for which we have not collected and this matter is to be resolved at this meeting. Sunnyside Condominiums are connected to our system, but Oak Park Heights is billing them and the Metro Waste is recommending that they continue that except that they will determine what the flow is and deduct it from our flowage which will be to our advantage. Also the Metro Waste has been charging the City of Stillwater for two million gallons per year for the Township properties which are the Mid Oaks properties that run into our sanitary sewer system which is part of the actual flow to our system. There was further discussion about the various connections into the two sewer systems and the billings for same. 3. MR. RRIESEL Made mention of the letter from Governor Quie regarding the meeting in reference to the reduction in the State Aid to the Municipalities. 4. MR. KRIESET. -eported to the Council on the MFHA Program which was to be taken over by Washington County and upon his recommendation the Council passed the necessary resolution so that this would happen which would be the Year V Program. He has found out since that Washington County does not have the machinery to administer the program and they have turned it over to Anoka County - he felt that this would be so complex with a contract with Washington County and another contract with Anoka County- he would like to give it back to the Metro Council - Washington County had requested this which was additional support for their Housing Finance Agency that they want to establish - he would like to talk to Washington County about this before the Council takes any additional action. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Roger Peterson, the meeting recessed at 5:20 P. M. until 7:30., M. / n J ct-7C Attest: �.�, .e t ra- ,1 - T C1 t y0C1erK Mayor • • • • • 188 RECESSED MEETING August 19, 1980 7:30 P. M. The Mayor called the meeting to order The Invocation was given by the City Clerk. Present: Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Dunker. Absent: None Also Present: Finance Director /Coordinator, Kriesel; City Attorney, Magnuson; City Clerk, Schnell Press: Julie Edstrom, Free Press Citizens: James Nelson, Tom Cropp, Dick Colemier, Ed Cass, Kevin Charlsen, David Johnson, Brad MacDonald, Leonard Feely, Jerry Mahoney, Gerri Granquist, Norman Webb, Patrick Poshek, Rev. Johns, Richard Nordlund INDIDIVIDUALS & DELEGATIONS 1. MR. RICHARD NORDLUND, appeared before the Council requesting Industrial Revenue Bonds for the Kinder Care Facility. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Roger Peterson, a resolution was introduced "CALLING FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON A PROPOSAL FOR A INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT ACT AUTHORIZING ON OF A NOOTICE SAID HEARING" (Hearing date to be September 16, 1980 at 7:30 P. M.) AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roter Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS - -None (see resolutions) 2. JAMES NELSON, 1315 North Carnelian, appeared before the Council complaining about the condition of his driveway which has been damaged with cars turning around at this dead -end and he has been waiting for this to be repaired for three weeks and the replacement of the barricades. (Mayor Junker assured him that it will be taken care of) PUBLIC HEARINGS 1. This was the day and time for the public hearing to establish proposed use in conjunction with Federal Revenue Sharing Funds. Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette, the official newspaper of the City, on August 8, 1980. The Mayor opened the hearing. MR. TOM CROPP, Stillwater Emergency Medical Services, Inc. presented his preliminary budget for 1981 and explained the various figures on same. His 1979 budget was $147,000 - the 1980 budget was projected at $168,00 which was a 14% increase and felt thst he would have a very similar increase for 1981 which would be estimated at $192,600, as follows: Personnel Services $136,800 Equipment 16,000 Facilities 9,000 Office, Telephone, Legal Services, Insurance 10,500 Operation, Maintenance & Repair 10 Miscellaneous Total 0 The projected income for the service - anticipates a 20% increase in business: 1200 calls at $115.00 average per run $138,000 Washington County Contract 4,500 St. Croix County Subsidy Non Contract Service Fees 14,400 City of Stillwater 1 $I 17 51 Total Ms. Luth informed him today that they will not allow for an increase over last year and that is 354 per capita and $50.00 per square mile for the service areas served. They roughly service 29,500 people and cover 103 square miles and are the largest Ambulance Service in Washington County. MAYOR JUNKER indicated that the population indicated for the City of Stillwater is about 1,000 people too high. A a it R' w e • a • • • • • August 19, 1980 Om COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON asked how many of the 1,200 runs are within the City of Stillwater and MR. CROPP responded approximately 60% or 720 runs. MR. CROPP informed the Council that they will be meeting very soon with a representative from the Washington County Emergency Medical Services Council who has made a preliminary draft of County wide perimedic services for advanced life support to consider advance life support in 1982, and the costs associated with it. COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON asked how many communities in the service area provide subsidies and MR. CROPP replied there is the City of Stillwater, St. Croix County, and Washington County. PAUL WEILER, St. Croix Valley Youth Service Bureau appeared before the Council as director for a request for $14,200 in Revenue Sharing funds for their program for 1981. They have worked with close to about 500 residents - they will be working with approximately 150 youths from the City of Stillwater and would be well over 350 people including the families these children. This program is for the prevention of delinquency and working with youth at two primary levels - early intervention level where kinds come in contact with their agency via referral from the concerned person where that young person's behavior in the estimation of that concerned person which may eventually bring that youth in contact with the Juvenile Court - they get involved with that young person on a voluntary basis and his family in an effort to assist them in whatever problem that they are experiencing in the hopes court action in the future is not necessary. The other level is the diversionary level - these PM are young people who are actually involved in some sort of delinquent behavior that in the past would have caused them to be petitioned to court - these referrals are received from the school personnel, police officers, the sheriff's department, and ether community agencies. He presented the complete cost break- down for the service units within their service area. The total community contributions are about $40,000 which is about 457, of their overall budget and the remainder comes from the County and the State primarily. They do receive small donations from Civic organizations - when they first started they received a small grant from the Bayport Foundation and the Margaret Rivers Foundation. Their total budget for 1981 is $89,000. COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON asked if all of the communities listed contributed for 1980 and MR. WEILER stated that Afton, Bayport, Baytown Township, Grant Township, Lakeland Shores, St. Mary's Point and West Lakeland, which is 8 out of the 15 have not,which appeared on this list. The comunities that have are Lake Elmo, Lakeland, Lake St. Croix Beach, Marine, May Township, Oak Park Heights, Stillwater and Stillwater Township. COUNCILMAN HARRY PETERSON asked questions about what they mean by general counsel- ing and MR. WEILER stated that this takes into account a number of different referrals - they would be described as early intervention referrals - kids whose behavior is upsetting to the point, or someone in their life concerned to the point that they may feel a more formalized action is necessary - most of the kids referred from the school personnel are referred for potential petitionable offenses (truancy, etc.) - these are cases where a petition to the court would necessarily be appropriate nor would be effective and they are referred to their program - they may be involved in a drug related offense - the may be py , experiencing some behavior problems at school where they are not responding to the school counselor because the counselor represents the school and the problems with the school. STEVE STUDER, Assistant Principal of the Stillwater Junior High School and Vice President of the St. Croix Valley Youth Service Bureau, stated that since the Youth Service Bureau started they have had only one of their students in court and felt that speaks very well for itself. The kids seem to have a positive image of this bureau and they don't mind going down there and to work with them. REV. DANIEL JOHNS, pastor of Trinity Lutheran Church and a member of the Board of Directors of the Youth Bureau stated that the bureau is doing the job that it was set out to do - teenagers need an advocate and allie and they have that in this bureau - he speaks for himself and other pastors within the community know that kids are very often turned off by institutions, be it the school, the church, or the family and to be able to have an allie in this bureau that can work with an alienated kid and his parents - they feel very strongly that this agency is per- forming for them. MRS. GERRI GRANQUIST, also a member of the Board of Directors of the Youth Service Bureau seconded what these gentlemen have said that the Council continue to support the agency and that it is working - the programs have been getting results more specifically the early intervention program - the figures will show that the referrals are less because of the work of this bureau and that is worthy of the Council's support. THE MAYOR CLOSED THE HEARING. Fi! 189, • O • • • 4:90 August 19, 1980 INDIVIDUALS 6: DELEGATIONS (continued) None at this point UNFINISHED BUSINESS 1. On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilman Powell, a resolution was introduced SETTING THE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 AT 7:30 P. M. FOR THE HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 152 ". AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS - -None (see resolutions) 2. On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilman Harry Peterson, a resolution was introduced "SETTING THE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 AT 7:30 P. M. FOR THE HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 167". AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS - -None (see resolutions) 3. On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilman Harry Peterson, a resolution was introduced "SETTING THE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 16, 1980 AT 7:30 P. M. FOR THE HEARI 3 FOR THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 175 ". AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS - -None (see resolutions) 4. On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman Harry Peterson, a resolution was introduced "SETTING THE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 30, 1980 AT 7:30 P. M. FOR THE HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 171 ". AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS- -None (see resolutions) 5. On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilman Harry Peterson, a resolution was introduced "SETTING THE DATE OF SEPTEMBER 30, 1980 AT 7:30 P. M. FOR THE HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 173 ". AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Iterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS - -None (see resolutions) 6. On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, a resolution was introduced "SETTING THE DATE OF OCTOBER 7, 1980 AT 7:30 P. M. FOR THE HEARING FOR THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 166. AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS- -None (see resolutions) UNFINISHED BUSINESS (continued) 7. MR. RICHARD COLEMIER, representing the Stillwater Fire Department Relief Association appeared before the City Council regarding their By -Laws which has at the present $600 pa year for service per man and last year at this time when they approached the Council they had a surplus of $19,000. Their Special Fund income for 1979 was $408 per man which according to the State guidelines would leave them to pay up to $1,000 per year of service. Last year they asked for $800 and this would have left them a surplus in the fund, fully funded, of $6,850 and there would be no coat to the City last year. That proposition was turned down by the Council early this year - this year their $600 per year funding based on a new financ)al study they now have a surplus of $23,375. The special fund income has risen to $561 per man which puts them in the $1,000 - $1,100 bracket. They would like to ask the Council for an increase from $600 to $1,000 per year of service per man - with their funding that would leave them with a $996 surplus for the coming year of 1981. COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON stated that the Council acted on a proposal - or the Council made a suggestion that the $800 per year of service be granted for all years beginning with 1980. MR. COLEMIER stated this is illegal according to state statutes - because the state statutes says that it has to be paid and he read from the statutes which it stated that it shall be applied uniformally. r+l w • • • • • • r • • August 19, 1980 ,u• • taw! MR. KRIESEL stated that that is uniform application. MR. COLEMIER continued to read the statutes and the matter of vesting which they do have and that is the exception to it. MR. MAGNUSON stated that the uniformity section means that you can't give women a lower pension than you can men and MR. COLEMIER did not agree with that - not this particular law which was adopted July 1, 1919. COUNCILMAN POWELL stated that this is the same law that all other communities use - he heard at the League meeting that if you are in for ten years, you can only ask for a figure - they might give you $200 per year for that if you are in 15 years they might give you $300 per year and if you are in for 20, they might give you $400 per year - it doesn't mean that . . . . . MR. COLEMIER said it is uniform vesting in that case - in other words if they go to $1,000 the way that their by -laws are setup then a man with ten years of service would receive 507 of that if he retires or moves out of the community. COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON asked Mr. Colemier by what was this illegal - state statute? MR. COLEMIER by the law that was written . . . COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK asked Mr. Colemier if he had an answer for a statement that she had heard - you are presently funded by "a percentage rebate from fire insurance premium" - the City is not presently doling out $1.00 per man or $100 per man for this Relief Association and MR. COLEMIER stated that was correct. She asked what would happen if the Council approves the $1,000 request and the rebate is never send down for the City to fund that - where would they get funding then - if the state did away with the rebate? MR. COLEMIER stated that they would have to change the law and then the City would be responsible to fund it. COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK stated that she was told that if this was changed and there was no revenue reaped from that, that the City was not responsible for any more than they are presently putting in now into the fund. MR. COLEMIER stated that is not true. That is under the '72 guideline bill and that is why this whole thing started with the '72 guideline bill that is when it was developed. MAYOR JUNKER asked Mr.Naguson if it was his understanding when the Council raised it from $600 to $800 several months ago that it was a legal thing to do. MR. MAGNUSON stated that it is uniform in the sense that everyone beginning with a certain year would be paid a uniform amount - he felt that this is permissable. MR. COLEMIER stated not according to the State of Minnesota - that this was not the intent - in fact there is some question with some of the people in the State office that the intent was ever if a fund was fully funded that there should be this much hassel to get the increases approved - it is only when the fund is not fully funded and you are asking for something that you do not have the money to back it up - that is the problem. MAYOR JUNKER stated that is just the problem that they could create for the City - if that tax rebate went out next year, the City would have to put in the $600 which is a long way from $1,000. MR. COLEMIER stated that the problem is there and it can only be used for the men . . . MAYOR JUNKER agreed with this, and they have never tried to use it for anything elase - the thing i• that because the money is there, do we automatically go to $1,000 . . . MR. COLEMIER asked what would happen if they stopped rebating the money for the Police Department - would you cut policemen? MAYOR JUNKER stated that we can use that money for other things besides their pension and we do not rely on that money. If that went out in 1981 and we had to come up with $1,000 per man . . . . MR. COLEMIER stated that the City would be paying the most $21,000 per year. COUNCILMAN POWELL stated that the point that he would like to make is that $400 was good five years ago, $600 was good last year, now that is not good any more - it seems to him that we are in this with our hand out for everything that we can get - you get your regular aalary, this originally started out as (continued on page 192) 191 • • • • • 1 • ,492 August 19, 1980 a Volunteer Department, now it is a paid part -time department and it is getting to cost more money than even he would anticipate that it would and $12,000 in hand after 20 years is a might fine retirement program, comparing it to some other cities that only give $100 per year for $200 per year and they a.e getting the same 2% on their insurance rebate as we are and Minneapolis is a million dollars in debt. MR. COLEMIER stated that as of the first of this year Minneapolis went into PERA and this was a different ballgame. They have the money to fund it for the guys - right now what this amounts to you is paying them $50 per month for year of service and they are asking that it be raised to $83 per month per year of service. They came up here to the Council with a proposal to approve a raise to $800 per year of service per man - the Council did not approve that - the Council came down with a proposal that they did not ask for. COUNCILMAN POWELL asked why it should be retro- active? MR. COLEMIER asked why not? If you are working for a company - today somebody else starts and that guy gets more money for retirement than you did, is this fair to you? COUNCILWOMAN POWELL stated that has happened ever since he has started Social Security. MAYOR JUNKER asked if the offer of $800 that was offered within the last three months you have refused it. 1 MR. COLEMIER stated that the Council had a choice to approve the by -laws at $800 and they did not do that - they came back with a counter - proposal that was not acceptable under two ways - first of all, it was not acceptable accord- ing to the state statutes. COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON asked who opinion was that and MR. COLEMIER stated that it was interpreted by the gentleman who wrote the law. MR. KRIESEL asked Mr. Colemier who he files their financial statement with and MR. COLEMIER reponded with the City of Stillwater and they file their financial report with the State - the Insurance Commission. He further stated that he had talked to a gentleman at the State (he did not know which office he was in), but he asked him the day after the Council took that action to increase it to $800 beginning January 1st and he asked him about the legality of that and the gentleman said (this is the gentleman that helped write the law that has been amended) and he stated 'that there is nothing illegal about it - he said that it would be cumbersome - to his knowledge there nothing illegal about it'. MR. COLEMIER stated that the other author of the bill and the other guy who wrote this thing, I asked the same question of him and he said 'no, it is his understand- ing that it has to be applied uniformly which would mean equal'. COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK stated that at the time that the Council discussed this, there was a question from a member of the Council about amending your by -laws to reflect all applications that the City Council would like to review them and whether this matter was discussed and MR. COLEMIER stated that the Council approves all members, but she stated that the Council would like to see all applications - all that they currently see are the choices from the department. COUNCILMAN POWELL felt that it would be property if there was room for another volunteer that if they advertised that there was room that the Council would see the applications and be able to select them - he felt that the Volunteer Department has become some kind of a closed club with father and son teams and they are very exclusive about who they accept. MR. COLEMIER felt that they had a very wide mix of people in their department. The St. Paul Fire Department are happy with so many of the sons getting involved inifire fighting. COUNCILMAN POWELL asked Mr. Kriesel, didn't this gentleman that he talked to say that because it was fully funded that it did not necessarily mean that the City should or that it was even good to increase it to $1,000. MR. KRIESEL stated that the gentleman that he talked to and other communities that he talked to that the surplus itself does not determine how much the pension should be and another consideration is - how should monthly salary - how much do you pay for a pension to hold them - COUNCILMAN POWELL stated that one of thethings that disturbs him is that it becomes inequitable when you consider the Fire Department as opposed to the other depart- ments - they get no other pension - they get their PERA and that is it and the police are the same way, and the Street Department are the same way and it gets to be that they are sitting there with "a golden egg" and the rest of them are staring at them greedily and he did not feel that is fair. a 14 I i 1 WI • • • • • 1 1 7 1 • • August 19, 1980 a COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK stated that it was her understanding that the last time when the Council made the decision to go with the $800, she thought that was a legal motion - it was just that they did not accept it and our attorney said it was legal. On motion of Councilman Harry Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, that the Council go on record as renewing its offer to the Stillwater Fire Department Relief Association for the payment of pensions of $600 per year for all years of service up through 1979 and $800 per year beginning the anniversay date in 1980. (all in favor) THE MAYOR DECLARED A RECESS FROM 8:30 to 8:40 P. M. INDIVIDUALS & DELEGATIONS (continued) - - -- LEONARD FEELY appeared before the City Council regarding the public hearing on the improvements for his plat and he wishes to waive the hearing on the improvements for Curve Crest Blvd. and Industrial Blvd. On motion of Councilman Roger person, seconded by Councilman Powell, a resolution was introcuced "WAIVING THE HEARING ON LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 185 AND ORDERING THE IMPROVEMENT AND THE FINAL PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS ". AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS- -None (see resolutions) I NEW BUSINESS On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Roger Peterson, the Council directed the City Clerk to send the summons from Olga Baab and Herbert_Baab vs. Kolliner Co., Inc. and the City of Stillwater to the McGarry- Kearney Insurance Agency. (all in favor) 2. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Roger Peterson, the Council set the dates of Wednesday, November 5, and November 18, 1980 (Tuesday) for the regular meetings of the City Council for the month of November. (all in favor) 3. On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman Powell, the Council approved the payment of $45.00 for a claim from Susan Butler, 209 West Sycamore for a sewer backup. (all in favor) 4. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, a resolution was introduced "DIRECTING THE PAYMENT OF THE BILLS ". AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilman Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS- -None (see resolutions) � J APPLICATIONS On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, the following Contractor's Licenses were approved: (all in favor) Astro Masonry, Inc. 3585 LaVerne Avenue N., Lake Elmo 55042 David A. Johnson dba Dave Johnson Contractor and Zoller Tree and Crane Service 904 West Olive Street, Stillwater Shursen Construction 1816 Kennard St., St. Paul 55109 Richard 0. Stout Route 112, Box 340, Hudson 54016 Masonry 6 Brick Work General General General - - -On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconeed by Councilman Harry Peterson, the following Beer Permits were approved: (all in favor) St. Mary's Church, South Fifth Street - Wild Rice Festival - September 7, 1980. New Renewal Renewal COMMUNICATIONS From the League of Minnesota Cities regarding a meeting on the possible reduction in State Aid payments to cities (meeting to be August 20, 1980 at 3:00 P. M.). (Mayor Junker indicated that it is possible that he will be able to attend) 19� • New • • • 1 • 1: • CITY COORDINATOR'S REPORT - continued 5. On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman Harry Peterson, a resolution was introduced "APPROVING THE EMPLOYMENT OF ALLEN ZEPPER AS BUILDING OFFICIAL ON A PERMANENT BASIS EFFECTIVE AUGUST 25, 1980." AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Harry Peterson, Roger Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker NAYS - -None (see resolutions) 5. MR. KRIESEL reported to the Council that he attended the County Board meeting last week regarding the resolving the problems with the Joint Powers Committee and he will set up a meeting with the County, Township and the City of Stillwater. 7. MR. KRIESEL reported to the Couml that Mr. Poshek delivered his proposal for assessing to his office late this afternoon and he will have copies available for the Council for the meeting tomorrow evening. CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT None COUNCIL REOUEST ITEMS 1. COUNCILMAN HARRY PETERSON, asked how the City stands on the Nelson School and MR. MAGNUSON stated that the deal has been closed and Mr. Haptrom is the owner, the City has been paid and they have agreed to return the plywood windows and they ! should proceed within ninety days. ORDINANCES None August 19, 1980 RESOLUTIONS - The following resolutions were read and on roll call were unanimously adopted: 1. Directing the Payment of the Bills. 2. Stop Sign at Orleans and County Road No. 5 3. Assessment Hearing for Local Improvement No. 152 4. Assessment Hearing for Local Improvement No. 167 5. Assessment Hearing for Local Improvement No. 175 6. Assessment Hearing for Local Improvement No. 171 7. Assessment Hearing for Local Improvement No. 173 8. Assessment Hearing for Local Improvement No. 166 9. Permanent Employment - Allen Zepper - Building Official 10. Order Local Improvement No. 185 and Waive the Hearing 11. Industrial Bonding Hearing - Kinder Care (David Johnson) ADJOURNMENT On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilman Powell, the meeting adjourned at 8:50.P. M. Attest:_Ail "' , /' .P ,r�-G,-•-ta __ CLty Clerk • • • •