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COUNCIL CHAMBER
Stillwater, Minnesota
April 29, 1980 6:30 P. M.
SPECIAL MEETING
The meeting was called to order by President Junket.
Present: Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Hari; Peterson, Roger
Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junket
Absent: None
Also Present: Finance Director - Coordinator, Kriesel; City Clerk, Schnell;
City Attorney, Magnuson; Superintendent of Public Works,
Shelton; Bonding Consultant, Langness
Press: Stillwater Gazette, Kevin Regan
Citizens: Jmes Bill
sb Pauley, Michael McGuire, N Sondra i Gozzi, Hastram, John Larson,
Martin Anderson
NELSON SCHOOL AGREEMENT
MR. JAMES LAMMERS representing the Nelson School Partners, explained the
changes in the Purchase Agreement, the Development Agreement and the Restrictive
Covenants for the Nelson School Building. There will be personal notes in
lieu of the Performance Bond.
'here were some questions raised about the variances that the Council had granted
for this project and the possibility that at some point and time in the future
that somebody could come in and request other variance.,, but MR. MAGNUSON felt
that the Council would be bound these agreements and also that that Council
could turn these variances and there would be a tough time in court and that
the decision could not be overturned. In the agreement there is a variance from
the Building Code for the handicapped.
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The Restrictive Covenants will be recorded with the deed when it is received
from the City.
On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Roger Peterson,
the Council authorized the Mayor and the City Clerk to sign the
Purchase Agreement, Development Agreement and the Restrictive Covenants
with the Nelson School Partners. (all in favor)
COUNCILMAN POWELL LEFT THE MEETING AT THIS TIME.
LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 178.
MR. KRIESEL informed the Council that he had received a letter from Kern- Pauley
requesting the withdrawal of their petition for improvements on Curve Crest
Boulevard and Tower Drive in the Stiillwater Industrial Park. (Third stage
project for the Industrial Park)
regarding Use problems
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There was discussion about the engineering costs that have been occurring with
this that the date heldhuntilpayfuture costs and
date.
MR. PAULEY indicated that they have considerable assessments already levied
out there and that they are being shut -off by the Joint Powers to what the
land can be used for at this time and there is no sense to accruing any more
costs.
MR. TORSETH stated that they feel that they have uses for that property that
are within the Zoning Ordinance and he made reference to Ray Martin's proposal
which was turned down. He made reference to the County's Zoning Ordinance and
cited certain portions of it and the problems that they are facing with it.
They do feel that the plumbing operation would be within the zoning on the
they trying toeliveiby find the property and
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Questions were raised about the uses that should be permitted in a Light
Industrial Zone and Mr. Pauley read from the Ordinance as to the permitted
uses which included but not limited to were lumberyards, machine shops,
products, assembly, sheet metal shops, plastic electronics, general vehicular
repair, body works and painting, contractor shops and storage yards, fabri-
cating, metal parts, etc.
Questions were raised about medical and dental facilities and these are
permitted on a Conditional Use Permit.
The above uses comply with the zoning on the property when they purchased
MR. MAGNUSON stated that when you turn down a request for a Special Use Permit
there is a burden on the City to establish a valid reason for turning it down
and show that it is not arbitrary.
On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman
Bodlovick, the Council allowed the request of Kern- Pauley to with-
draw their petition for the improvements on Curve Crest Blvd. and
Tower Drive with the understanding that all costs accumulated to
this point and time be paid for by the proposers. (all in favor)
INDIVIDUALS & DELEGATIONS
OPAL PETERSEN, 1109 South First Street, appeared before the City Council regard-
ing the removal of elm trees in her boulevard by the City and the roots of these
trees have uprooted the sidewalk and if someone gets hurt the City will have a
lawsuit on their hands. She stated that she had talked to Jack Shelton several
times about this.
MAYOR JUNKER asked Mr. Magnuson if it was the City's responsibility to replace
this sidewalk and MR. MAGNUSON responded that we have an obligation to keep the
sidewalks free from unreasonable hazards.
(Mr. Shelton was directed to get quotes for the repair of this sidewalk)
BONDING FOR LOCAL IMPROVEMENTS
MR. KRIESEL presented to the Council data on the proposed bonding for local
improvements and requested that they delete Local Improvement No. 178 from the
list of improvements.
The total cost of the parking lot with the storm sewer and the South
Main Street Realignment is $416,076 (estimated) and the amount to be assessed is
$282,618, and the State's share of Local Improvement No. 166 is $133,458.
Jack Shelton made a survey of the downtown people as to the time of the
assessment to be spread on this improvement and the response was 60% were in favor
of a ten year bonding period and the other 40% were against a ten year because
they did not know exactly how much they were going to bessessed. He had contacted
a total of 27 parties and several of them indicated that they never received a
notice of the improvement hearing.
MR. KRIESEL stated that the total cost of the parking lot is $196,170 and that
100% of that is to be assessed (this is the estimated cost); the storm sewer
was estimated at $54,000 of which $12,433 was going to be picked up by the
State leaving $42,101 to be assessed; the Street realignment $165,372 which the
state is going to pick up $121,025 leaving $44,437 making a grand total of
$282,618 to be assessed.
He stated that at the improvement hearing Mr. Van Wormer had indicated
that the Brick Alley would be assessed approximately $40,000 and Reed's would
be assessed approximately $4,000. This would be done on a radial assessment
basis - it is very complicated and it is very difficult to come up without any-
thing but a ballpark figure.
SONDRA GOZZI stated that she had not received a notification and she has heard
and seen various different figures for this improvement and asked that the projects
be separated and they be given figures.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that these figures are what it is going to cost and what has
not been determined is how the assessment will be spread and who will pay what
share and that does not have to be done until the assessment hearing takes place
which is after all of the work has been done. Then the property owners can come
to the assessment hearing and appeal it and then go to the District Court for the
whole process. There are a lot of options for spreading this assessment - front
foot on the streets, area assessment on the storm sewer radial assessment on the
parking lot.
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SONDRA GOZZI stated that she did not want this project from the start and
stated her reasons for same and if she had any say about where her tax
dollars went she would like to have it go for something that would bear some
revenue for this City - like a parking ramp - she is currently in the process
of putting in her own parking lot which will house some 35 cars and asked if
she would get credit for same and she was told that she would be given credit
for same. She felt that the only one that would benefit is the one that is
located adjacent to it and did not feel that it is a good entrance to the City
unless it is really "decked up" and some of the old time style which makes
Stillwater really great. She felt that people that will benefit will be those
who work and go to the Brick Alley and felt that the City should go in there
and grade it and put in some gravel.
MAYOR JUNKER indicated that the City could not go in there and do any work
because the property did not belong to the City.
MR. MC GUIRE stated that he does not own it either and he plowed it once by
accident and he got a call from Mr. Erickson threatening him because he had
plowed the property - can't do anything with this lot. He did not accept her
statement that the parking lot was just for the Brick Alley - he has a parking
lot for about 60 cars on his property and the Freighthouse also has some
private parking - he felt that there were as many people that go to Mrs. Gozzi's
restaurant as go to the Brick Alley and they also park on his private property.
MRS.GOZZI asked what would be taken into consideration when computing the
assessments - whether they will take into consideration the fact that a per-
centage of her restaurant is on take -outs, the number of employees, and when
would that information be available. She also asked if they intend to put
parking meters within this lot and questioned what they will be doing during
the night time hours. She further complained about parking tickets.
She was informed that there would be meters and they would be operating
during the evening hours.
There was discussion about parking on front of your business and she was
informed that she should be parking at the four and ten hour meters and she
felt thatthis information be given out by the City and that this was not her
responsibility.
MAYOR JUNKER explained that when Mr. Marshall was here, the Downtown Council
worked out a proposal with him to have the merchants pay $600 each to have the
meters removed and when the time came to put it into effect, they requested
that the meters stay and that is why they are still there today.
MR. KRIESEL indicated that he will talk to Mr. Elliott about having a "dry -run"
on the assessments for the parking lot.
Questions were raised about the notices that were sent for the improvement
hearing and it was noted that they were mailed from the City Attorney's Office
and the list of those names were referred to at this time. MR. MAGNUSON stated
that the State Statutes provides that failure to get that mailed notice is the
reason that the notice is published.
There will be a notice sett to all those proposed to be assessed and there
will be another publication and it will say that the proposed assessment roll is
on file with the Clerk and the people can examine it too before so that they
can prepare themselves for the hearing. The Council will arrive at a rational
basis for spreading the assessments on those that benefit - it is done at the
advice of the engineers.
There was discussion about the length of the time for the bonds - Mr. Langness
stated that it has historically been City policy to spread it over ten yarn
and he did not want to get involved in making City policy - ten years would be
consistent with the City's policy - there are going to be repairs and replace-
ments that will have to be taken into account and they will have to be financed
in some manner - ten years is a good time for parking lots - as far as market
bonds go this could be done for as long as twenty years, but from a marketing
standpoint the interest rate would be higher -- he did indicate that he would
recommend a ten year bond sale and did not want to say that they could not go
longer than that.
MRS. GOZZI asked if they were firm on having parking meters in this lot and MR.
MAGNUSON stated that there are two problems here - the City has parking meters
in the other lots and in order to finance those parking meters they sold Revenue
Bonds and that prcvides that they not provide free parking.
She felt that other means of charging with an attendant or payint with
an "arm- lock" pay when you leave would generate more revenue for the City.
THE OWNER OF GTC stated that if he knew what his assessment was going to be
possibly he would prefer ten years rather than 15 years and he was informed
that he could pay it up earlier than the 15 years if he wanted to do that.
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MR. MC GUIRE stated that the assessment and payments for the Brick Alley are
going to be very stiff and very difficult to make; however, if an expert
advises him that the ten year is possibly the best one because of the interest
rates and he would prefer to follow his advice and he gets extremely nervous
when there is talk about fifteen year hond issues.
MR. LANGNESS did not feel that fifteen years is unreasonable, but this is a
policy decision of the Council if they want to deviate from previous councils -
that would not be illegal -
There were questions raised about setting the bonding for ten years and then
set the assessments for fifteen years and MR. LANGNESS stated that the City
would only get a portion of the bond money to make the bond payments and the
City would have to subsidize the balance and the City can do this if they wish
to - there would have to be a levy for that for five years. Another option is
that the City could go for a fifteen year bond issue and then if the Council
decided they wanted to sp sad the assessment over ten years, but that does not
make any sense as you would be paying more interest.
On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilman Harry
Peterson, the Council instructed the Bonding Con.•.nitant for Springsted,
Inc. to sell the bonds over a ten year period. (all in favor)
There was discussion on the projects that should be bonded for that Mr. Kriesel
had on a list that he prepared for the Council. Mayor Junker felt that there
should be an improvement hearing on the permanent pumping of Lily Lake so that
the people know that the City is going to spend $122,136 for this project.
MR. MAGNUSON indicated that this project could be assessed, but it would be
rather difficult to do that.
MR. KRIESEL stated that there is $310,629 on the books already for these
projects and that will have to be levied next year and the other levies on the
spread sheet for the next five years.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that we might have to have a referendum on the bonds
for the Lily Lake Control project and did not know it could be done under the
charter without an assessment. The things that can be done without a referendum
when there is no plan to assess - purchase, construct, extend or improve or
maintain any public utility as provided by State law or connection there with . . .
and he continued to recite from the City Charter on this matter. There would
have to be a finding that it is a public utility. The Council has to determine
if they can sell the bonds without having an assessment and the City can only
do that if the Charter Commission would do it or if you have a referendum. The
project could be assessed if you could prove benefits to the property.
MR. LANGNESS stated that you have to look at the value of the property before
the improvement goes in and the value after the improvement came in and he did
not feel that they could assess the whole City on that basis. The City would
benefit but the individual property owners other than those around the lake. If
the Council could argue that this is a storm sewer, then it could be done.
There was discussion as to whether or not this proejct should be done this
year and MR. SHELTON felt that it would be best that it be done this year.
Mr. Kriesel, Mr. Magnuson and Mr. Langness will work out the details of the
bonding for the Lily Lake Contro Project, Local Improvement No. 181.
The decision was to take the $6,700 for the I/I Study out of the SAC
Refund money and not bond for same.
MR. KRIESEL stated that he will have to make an analysis of the SAC refund
monies and the expentitures that will come out of it.
There was discussion on the possible appeals to thsse assessments for
the parking lot as to benefit and the portion that might be thrown out in court
would be the realignment of Main Street.
MR. MAGNUSON Made mention of the adjustment that the City made on the assess-
ments in the Industrial Park using State Municipal Aid Funds on the collector
streets.
It was concurred that the City would bond for Local Improvement Nos. 166,
169 and Local Improvement No. 181 if it can be worked out that it is legal.
MR. LANGNESS scheduled the bond sale for May 29, 1980 and he will supply all of
the information to the Council for the meeting on May 6th.
The meeting adjourned at 8:50 P. M.
Attest: .xl e ,G.R..,nCQ.
_lefty Clerk
Mayor
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