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COUNCIL CHAMBER
Stillwater, Minnesota
April 18, 1979 7:00 P. M.
SPECIAL MEETING
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Junker.
Present: Councilmen H. Peterson, R. Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker
Absent: Councilwoman Bodlovick
Also Present: Finance Director /Coordinator - Kriesel
City Attorney - David Magnuson
City Clerk - Dorothy Schnell
Short - Elliott- Hendrickson, Inc. - Glen Van Wormer
Press: Stillwater Gazette - Bob Liberty
Citizens: Captain Griffith, Warren Smith, Tim Johnson, Owen Thomas, Bill
Hahn, Dave Eckberg, Dick Jeans, Brooks Thompson, Bob Thompson
WHARFAGE PERMITS - JUBILEE
GLEN VAN WORMER explained that he was given two assignments relating to the
Jubilee - the impact on the traffic when they go through the bridge and the
PO other the impact on the parking for the Jubilee when they dock at various locations
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The Coas%uard has the log on the bridge openings and they can tell how long it
takes for the various boats to go through - three to six minute stop for sail
boats depending upon the mast - the Jubilee takes eleven minutes for the few
times that they had it recorded.
The frequency of the opening of the bridge has been changed as to opening
times during the peak times.
The duration is an important factor - they have calculated the amount of
backup that they would get from an opening at the various times of the day -
they have some hourly traffic counts - on a weekday afternoon if the bridge were
open, there would only be a backup of about 30 cars; on a Friday evening during
the rush hours there would be 80 to 100 cars which is a five minute stoppage for
a small boat and for larger boats which would take about ten minutes the backup
would be double. The backup of 20 cars would get to the Main and Chestnut
Street intersection - back up of 83 cars they would be backedup on Chestnut
to Main and on Main all the way back to the Brick Alley and they would also fill
in Water and Nelson Streets. On a Friday evening they would be backedup all
the way down to the end of the highway wise it divides
He felt that someone should contact the Coastguard to make sure that the new
schedule is put into effect which is for ninety days June 1st through August
the bridge will be opened every hour on the hour and on weekends from 8:00 A. M.
to Midnite and it would be opened every half hour from Noon to 10:00 P. M.
during the week.
He further felt that it should be put in the Wharfage Permit as to how often
the Jubilee can go through the bridge.
The Jubilee made 258 trips out last year and that they should not have an
overlap on the parking for the various charges If the scheduling is done care-
fully, they can prevent that. They have a capacity of 350, but the normal
charter is 250 to 275 people. Figuring about 3% people per car, this would
mean parking for about 71 cars for each charter. If there are two busses and the
rest come by car, that would mean about 45 cars - he assumed that they would
need 40 cars on the average.
He indicated that there are six possible locations for parking (1) park at
the north end of the River Parking Lot at the ten hour meters - the only
problem is there is a lot of competition with the employees and long term parkers
in the Downtown area. (20 the south half of the River Parking Lot which is
generally open other than on heavy traffic days; (3) to utolize the McGuire
river property where the carwash is - there is room in there if some grading
were done to prk about 20 cars which will take about one -half of the Jubilee
load out of the public parking lot. It would have to be graded and there would
have to be an agreement between the owner and Captain Griffith; (4) Dock up
by the Hooley property which would work fine for busses and if they put more than
a dozen cars in there this will take away from Mr. Hooley's parking which is
already tight. He has talked to Mr. Hooley and he has no problem with the busses,
but he does not want any parked cars in there; (5) Another suggestion is to park
on the Wisconsin side utilizing the park that is now closed, but he did not know
the possibility of maneuvering the Jubilee into this area - this could be used
for loading and unloading, but then the Jubilee would have to be docked at another
area or there would be vandalism problems and also the vehicles would be subject
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to vandilsm; (6) The Aiple area - the access to that for forty cars four times
per day is not good- there would have to be quite a bit of work done in order
to provide solid parking for them and not interfere with some activities that are
going on in certain areas.
A couple of considerations - there is a ]nt of interaction between the Jubilee
and the "Software Merchandisers" - there is the Freighthouse, the Brick Alley,
Perkl's Establishment, -- those businesses and the Jubilee mesh quite well - these
are buildings where people can spend sometime in Stillwater.
There is a very definite need for convenience for parking for the "hard goods"
as they have competition nearby with parking and their parking is extremely critical
and if that parking is used by the Jubilee patrons it is going to have an adverse
affect on them.
Another concern is that the Delta Queen has to have a space to park - he was
unable to find out where and they plan to dock here. The Main Street parking lot
on the south end he felt that there would be no problem in acquiring the land and
that parking lot will go ahead - there will be 93 or more parking spaces on that
end of town.
There are three other considerations that came up (1) possibly some consistency
as to where the Jubilee can dock so that people won't be driving through the
waterfront area; (2) the services for the boats: (3) on the parking,the 40
parking stalls areaxailable and they should be at the south end, rather than at the
north and the only way to get the customers down there is to have the boat down
there. If it is possible to get to the McGuire property, that would give 20 more
metered spaces to serve the downtown area.
His recommendation was that the Jubilee and the Downtown people and Mr. McGuire
work out an agreement for dockage and parking down in that area and that the
Jubilee loading be at the south end of the parking bt and that they tie -up where
they want to. The other concern is that if it is going to north that there be
some agreement reached, if it is legal or not, as to what times and how often he would
run under the bridge. The only problem would be that they could discriminate
against the Jubilee and someone with a tall mast sailboat does the exact same thing
or worse.
BILL HAHN felt that they should endorse Mr. Van Wormer's recommendations - they are
reasonable and possible as presented for this summer. They did give up the narking
on Main Street and they are working with the Coastguard so that they would have
"free -flow" traffic this summer and that they do not want to do anything to disrupt
that.
MAYOR JUNKER asked Mr. Griffith when he bads the boat if the loading deck faces
the bridge and MR. GRIFFITH stated that if they are loading passengers who come by
car and mooring conditions were favorable they would do it by the car wash area.
If they are going to load any passengers before 6:00 P. M. and they come by car,
they move the Jubilee down to the car wash area and the people will park as close
as they can to the boat. The Mayor was referring to a location by the old sewer
outlet and Captain Griffith stated that they cannot park there because of all of
the rubble in the area.
MAYOR JUNKER felt that there would be a blacktop ramp made to the river's edge and
this area is very rocky and rough - if it was graded and crushed rock put in,
this would be a good place to load.
CAPTAIN GRIFFITH stated that they are going to take down the flagstaff on the top
of the pilot house which will lower their clearance by four feet - when they have
gone through the bridge alone they have been clocked at less than seven minutes-
they have been clocked at more that that when there has been a whole flotila of
boats going through with them. He felt that the City should be thinking about
multi -level parking especially on Olive and Third Streets. He stated that they
will do everything that they can to get the people to park at that end of town.
COUNCILMAN POWELL felt that the parking of the Jubilee on the south end of town
will alleviate the congestion - he asked Captain Griffith if it would be possible
to put in some pilings or posts to that he could tie -up to them in case it is
windy and if there is any debris in the river along side the piling could be moved
away to give him kind of a slip to go into and have the pilings on the down river
side of the boat and CAPTAIN GRIFFITH agreed this would be a good idea if they are
unable to tie up at their normal place - he is using in his advertising to use busses
whenever possible - they could tie there with good security thru all conditions
including vandalism. At the meeting they agreed that when he has automobile traffic
only, at anytime before 6:00 P. M., they would load those passengers at the south
end, but the bus passenters, when it is possible, they would be loaded and unloaded
at the normal place. In their charter it states whether they are coming by bus or
car - the majority do come by bus, they know where to find the Jubilee.
MAYOR JUNKER asked if the Downtown merchants had any problems with them loading and
unloading passengers that come by bus at their normal parking location.
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DICK JEANS stated they do not object to the bus loadings at any of the
locations but that the car -tours must be loaded at the carwash and that the
boat shall be at that site thirty minutes prior the loading time and that
they would this written into the lease - that is if it is up and including
6:00 P. M.
COUNCILMAN HARRY PETERSON questioned the utilizing of some property by the
carwash and fix it up - Stillwater is a river town and it has been known
for its boats for many, many years and they should encourage boats to come
here. He felt that the City should do everything they can to curtail the
river atmosphere and if it means giving up some of that select ten hour
parking near Chestnut Street for employees for Downtown stores and have them
go down and park behind the carwash and walk a couple of extra blocks - he felt
that the people that come into Stillwater should come in on good streets and
come into parking meters that are permanent - they should not be treated as
second -hand citizens - there are about 65 meters in the area from Chestnut
Street down to the carwash on the southbound lane and at the worst carload
there is a need for 71 cars and the average would be about forty cars. He
felt that if the downtown merchants would talk to their employees and they
themselves would be parking their cars at some distance and walking that extra
two or three blocks, there would be a lot better atmosphere created for the
visitors. These are the people that could possibly come back here on Main
Street and spend some money here. Have to look at the whole parking thing -
felt they should be looking at Water Street to find out if they haven't got a
lot of "yellow" there that needs to be metered and when he goes by Simonets
and sees about 12 spaces reserved for "Simonets" - he questioned if they own
the street - they own a piece, but they do not own that street. He questioned
that if the Coast -to -Coast owns all the distance out into the middle of the
street that their parking is taking. That is where the people want to park if
they want to shop in those stores. He did not feel that we need ten hour
meters for the employees to park - let them walk.
DICK JEANS stated that the meters behind his store are two hour meters and the
meters in the river parking lot are also two hours for the first 10 or 12
meters by Chestnut and this is the area that they are concerned about - people
go on a two or three hour tour and this is the area that they are concerned
about - he has customers that come in and out of their store in a 10 or 15
minute time period - they want this parking turned over and they are not
concerned about their using the ten hour meters.
COUNCILMAN HARRY PETERSON did not feel that the City should be putting money
in the property down by the carwash to run some cars on - people are not going
to find it.
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BILL HAHN felt that there should be some type of agreement drawn up between
the merchants, Mr. Griffith and the City Council and recommended that they
use Mr. Van Wormer's plan.
MAYOR JUNKER asked Captain Griffith if Mr. McGuire has set a rent fee for this
property and he replied that it is $500.00 for the summer.
COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON felt that the City should not in any way spend money
on that parking lot - it should be signed by and improved by the person who
is leasing the property.
MAYOR JUNKER asked Mr. Griffith if the City were to charge him $600.00 wharfage,
if he would be willing to take $300.00 of that to put on the parking lot.
COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON stated that for $300.00 you could not do anything - he
did not see why the City should have to do that. Since 1963 the City has
created new parking lots and better parking lots and have assessed all of those
property owners for the coat of a good portion of the lots and they paid their
share. He felt that it was time for Mr. Griffith to face up and pay for his
parking.
COUNCILMAN POWELL felt that $300.00 was a small amount to pay since costs more
than that for a slip at Muliers - it is a low price to pay.
CAPTAIN GRIFFITH felt that he brought in as much business as he brings in and
COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON did not feel that was an argument - everyone of the
retail stores, everyone of the commercial establishments and manufacturing
places contributes to the economy of the City. He also checked on the going rate
for dockage and it is in the neighborhood of $33.00 per foot and this would be
$2,500 per year going rate and he felt that $600.00 rate is a very minimal rate.
BOB THOMPSON stated that it was his understanding that Mr. McGuire was to improve
his land and was going to make arrangements with Mr. Griffith which was to the
satisfaction of all of the people downtown and could not understand how they
were getting into this hassel about graveling, etc., and Captain Griffith confirmed
this fact.
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DAVID MAGNUSON asked whether or not the City wants to limit the number of times
that they go through the bridge and Captain Griffith stated that if they knew
that they had several trips going north they would go above the bridge and
unload - they go through when there is a very low traffic or when it is open for
other boats.
MR. VAN WORMER stated that they did put together some prohibition times - week-
days around the evening rush hours - Saturdays and Sundays before Noon until
9:30 P. M.
MR. HAHN stated that on June 1st it will be from 12:30 thru 9:30 every hour on
the half -hour.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that Captain Griffith would make every effort to use the south
end of the river lot, the fee would be $600.00, he would use the McGuire property
and will make every effort to fill that with cars, boat to load at McGuire's site
for car patrons and the boat would be there thirty minutes before departure prior
to six o clock (up and including any trips leaving at this time of the day);
conditions in the lease that he furnish his own power - and the only main restriction,
if the Council wishes to put them on, is the number of times that they go under the
bridge.
MR. VAN WORMER stated if he went under the bridge on weekdays before 2:30 P. M. it
would cause very little problems, but if he came back down and wanted to go back
out that evening he would not be able to go underneath the bridge and load up and
go back out again as they would not want to go back out again until after 7:00 P. M.
MAYOR JUMKER asked Captain Griffith if he could live with two times a day, every
day of the week except Saturday and Sunday.
CAPTAIN GRIFFITH felt that they could work out something that could be a gentlemen's
agreement. It was agreed that Friday nites and Saturday mornings are very critical.
CAPTAIN GRIFFITH stated that they at their volition would not go upstream when
the traffic is heavy.
It was agreeable that Mr. Van Wormer furnish the list of the critical times
when he will be'asked not to thru the bridge which can be written into the contract.
CAPTAIN GRIFFITH questioned how they were going to deal with the sailboats that
have high masts and the response was that they were not asking for a non - exclusive
wharfage permit and they were not going to be conerned with that.
OWEN THOMAS, a citizen, felt that the businesses downtown pay more than $300.00
in taxes for the land where they conduct their business on - he questioned if it
was possible to lease out the land that Elmore Lowell gave to the City of Stillwater.
COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON stated that the tease 'should be basically what the retailers
worked out at their meeting should be incorporated in the lease and the times that
he is restricted from going thru the bridge be the high volume times worked out by
Mr. Van Wormer.
MR. MAGNUSON asked how they plan to provide parking for the Discovery and Tim
Johnson's request and he was informed that they are just working one at a time
on these permits.
MR. VAN WORMER asked if the Council was concerned about the east or west bound
traffic across the bridge and they felt that they should be concerned of both,
but more concerned about the east bound.
On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilman Powell,
the City Attorney was directed to draw up the lease agreement for the
Jubilee which is satisfactory to the merchants and the City and following
the recommendations submitted by Mr. Van Wormer.
COUNCILMAN HARRY PETERSON reminded the Council that they rent 4,000 feet of water
frontage to the Aiple Towing (Stillwater -St. Croix Barge) for $1,000 per year and
that has not been raised for twenty years.
VOTE ON THE MOTION - -All in favor
WHARFAGE PERMIT - THE DISCOVERY
On motion of Councilman Roger Peterson, seconded by Councilman Harry Peterson,
that the lease agreement for The Discovery be kept at the $300.00 and be renewed
for the 1979 boating season. (all in favor)
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WHARFAGE PERMIT - TIM JOHNSON
MR. JOHNSON explained that they had a permit last year, but were unable to
use it for loading and unloading his passengers because of the high water
conditions. He has three boats and they paid a fee of $100.00 last season.
Questions were raised as to what the City would be giving up and MR. MAGNUSON
explained that the permits are renewed annually - they are cancellable without
cause practically provided the City refunds a pro -rated portion of the fee and
that the City really has a lot of control on these permits.
COUNCILMAN POWELL felt that the amount of traffic that is going to be generated
on something like that didn't seem to be a problem - could be getting out -of-
town.
MR. JOHNSON stated that because this had not been done prior to this time it
was being done on a trial basis and that if it wasn't workable, then they would
sit down and talk about the problems which, of course, could be traffic.
MAYOR JUNKER felt that the fee should be set at $200.03 for these boats and
questioned if the City could stop at this number of boats.
MR. JOHNSON stated that last year he talked to Mr. Jack Shelton about making
better provisions for them to tie up their boats and MAYOR JUNKER stated that
Mr. Shelton has been in contact with Mr. Roettger about cutting out some of
the area and doing some repair work - put in some bumpers.
COUNCILMAN HARRY PETERSON made a motion that the dockage or tieing -up
or loading and unloading fee be $100.00 for the year for The Bogey
Cove. (The motion died for the lack of a seconl)
COUNCILMAN ROGER PETERSON felt that before they go any farther with things
that some definite policies be setup and he did not feel that they could do
that this evening. He was not aware that they were going to have another
request this evening (and neither did the Mayor) and he was not prepared to
work on another request. Before any other loading or non - exclusive wharfage
permits are granted, that the City should have a definite policy - he could
see where they may receive other requests and where do they draw the line.
On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Roger Peterson, that
this matter of additional wharfage permits be laid over until the first regular
meeting in May. (May 8, 1979) (all in favor)
THE MEETING RECESSED FROM 8:20 to 8:30 P. M.
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COUNCIL CHAMBER
Stillwater, Minnesota
SPECIAL MEETING
The meeting was called to order by Mayor Junker
Present: Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen H. Peterson, R. Peterson,
Powell and Mayor Junker
Absent: None
Also Present: Finance Director /Coordinator - Kriesel
City Attorney - David Magnuson
City Clerk - Schnell
Consulting Engineer - Elliott
Press: Stillwater Gazette - Bob Liberty
A Citizens: Stillwater Township - Pat Bantli, Kathy Buck, Alan Borsheim,
Willian Lecuyer, Bill McDonald, Wayne Johanson
Mr. & Mrs. Karl Schmoeckel, Ralph Geidel, Don Raleigh, David
Johnson, Gordon Klatt, Mr. & Mrs. Peter Flock
ANNEXATIONS
April 18, 1979 8:45 P. M.
DAVID JOHNSON, 8660 North Stonebridge Trail, explained his proposed development
which will be developed over the next 12 to 15 years with 449 lots for residential
homes. He will put in all of the lots with water, sewers and streets before
selling any of them. There will be a 27 hole golf course which will be private
and after is is filled, then they will open it up. The lots are about 17,000
square feet on the average.
He was questioned as to what he proposes to do with McKusick Lake and the
response was that the We is just too shallow - he stated that the ultimate
solution is to dredge the lake and give it more depth. There was considerable
discussion about the level of this lake and the dam that was constructed by
the City of Stillwater and it was done to protect the level of the lake and it
is higher than Brown's Creek.
Mr. Johnson will use holding ponds for the drainage from this new development
and Mr. Elliott stated that a part of Mr. Johnson's drainage will come into the
lake and that should bring up the water level.
A number of the citizens questioned the boundaries of the development and
Mr. Johnson explained same to them and answered their questions.
BILL MC DONALD felt that the agreement between the City and the Township on the
orderly annexation on the south end and that this agreement is working out quite
well - he felt that there are a lot of things that should be talked about -
what type of zoning and development should be allowed along Highway 96 should be
considered - come to some agreement in advance as to what they want Highway 96
to look like - what the impact of this development would have on the school
district and the Township. There will be financial losses for the Township
with the loss of taxes
COUNCILMAN POWELL agreed that Mr. McDonald's suggestion was a good one - he stated
that Carl Dale has projected the population to reach 20,000 to 25,000 - he liked
Mr. Johnson's proposal since it is keeping the density down to a minimum by
having the two golf courses there and the lots of this size and felt that this was
the proper way to go.
KATHY BUCK felt that this is a burden on the School District and COUNCILMAN ROGER
PETERSON stated that they have publicly withdrawn any objection to any development
within the school district and also the projection for 1985 they are losing
population rather than gaining population.
KATHY BUCK ftlt that the impact of the Orkin Thompson development had a greater
impact on the School District than anticipated and COUNCILMAN R. PETERSON said
that it had a lesser effect on the school district than was predicted - they have
1.5 children per home and they were predicting over two. There are a lot of
older couples moved into the area with grown children then they originally expected.
Questions were asked about the planner and it was stated that Carl Dale is for
Washington County and also for the City of Stillwater for many years and he is
currently working on the Comprehensive Plan for the Metro Council.
Questions were raised about the size of the lots to the north of 96 and it was
clarified that they are still five acres to the north of 96 and 2% acres to the
south.
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COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK asked whether or not there was any type of agreement
as to the annexation of property outside of the Orderly Annexation Agreement
and MR. MC DONALD stated that it was discussed and that it is in the Agreement
that the City agrees not to annex land outside of the Orderly Annexation Agree-
ment without Township approval.
(Mr. Borsheim arrived at 9:45 P. M.
Questions were raised as to how the Joint Powers Agreement came into being and
it was stated that the Hooley Annexation (which was rapidly developing) was the
reason for this agreement.
MR. MC DONALD stated that this was a statment of policy as to what the relation-
ship should be between the Township and the City - between the rural area and the
urban area - the basic idea was that they were going to stop development and
people from building, but they thought it was to provide an area in which they
would build - didn't want it to develop in an unorderly fashion and the Township
would stay rural - not rrying to create a competing City - not going to put in
urban development and commercial things and try to become another City government.
There were a lot of annexation petitions going on and a lot of time was spent in
court and there was a big incentive to do something.
ONE CITIZEN FROM STILLWATER TOWNSHIP asked if they would be forced to annex to the
City and the response was that the Municipal Commission could enlarge upon a
petition for annexation and other areas could be included in this area.
Questions were raised about the other annexation proposal which the Council
adopted a resolution on and the reply was that the petition was received by the
Municipal Commission and since the area covered by same was not contigious to the
City, it was sent back to the petitioner.
Whatever action that is needed now is to be taken by the Town Board and MR.
MAGNUSON felt that this is a legal question that will have be answered by the
Municipal Commission.
KATHY BUCK read a motion made by their Town Board that Dave Johnson do an environ-
mental assessment work sheet prior to any action being taken on his petition by
the City Council or the Municipal Commission.
A questions was raised as to how much of the Orderly Annexation area is left to be
developed and how much has been developed up to this time and the response was that
the majority of it is yet to be developed - it is almost all Industrial and Commercial
and there is some multi - family - no single home residential.
Questions were raised about the sewers for any other areas, other than Reliance, that
would be covered almost out to Highway 96 and it was stated that the assessments for
this Johnson proposal would be totally paid by Mr. Johnson. It was clarified if
there is a lift station needed, is the City proposing an assessment per acre outside
of this area - if Mr. Johnson agrees to pay all of the assessments then there would
be no need to assess anyone in the Township 9 it all depends upon what the engineer
recommends.
MR. ELLIOTT stated that this is a policy matter for the City - he felt that when-
ever anything is done it is prudent to have the proper size lift station and then
the question is who should pay for that - it is a matter of how the future is
financed - the Metro Sewer Board has the SAC charge he made reference to the force -
main put in on County 12 and if it had not been put in, they would be back there
tearing up the street to serve the Reliance Development property.
MR. ELLIOTT stated that there has to be some decision as to where the boundaries
of the City will ultimately go - he felt that the City is still blessed in that the
sewers have been separated and the large mains are already in there to take care of
the sanitary sewers which originally took care of both storm and sanitary sewers.
KATHY BUCK explained the area governed by the Joint Power Agreement comprised of
membership of the City, Township and the County and they serve as the Planning
Commission for this area which she outlined on a map.
Questions were asked about the lot sizes in the Croixwood Development and the
response was that the minimum was 10.000 and the average was about 12,000 as there
are some that are larger around the lake.
A resident of Stillwater Township was hopeful that the "little guy" will not be
left out and he is outside of the area for the lift station that is being proposed
for the Reliance Development Project and he felt that he will be completely surrounded
by all of this development.
MAYOR JUNKER did not feel that there will be a plan like this that the Township and
the City cna accept, and be built and done in this period of time.
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The question was raised if it could be possible that the Township could
annex the City of Stillwater and the City Attorney stated that this is not
possible due to state law - "if land is about to become urban or of urban
character, then it should be a part of the municipality because municipalities
are capable of supplying services ".
MR. MC DONALD stated that he would much rather see these 460 homes in a place
like this than scattered all over Stillwater Township - he did not feel that
the whole country is going to turn into an urban area and COUNCILMAN POWELL
felt the same way.
MR. MC DONALD felt that the City cannot prosper without the Township and the
Township cannot prosper without the City.
THE CITY ATTORNEY had suggested that there be a joint comprehensive plan for
the City and the Township and KATHY BUCK stated that she would be willing to
meet for that purpose. She was concerned about an earlier meeting when the
Township asked the City if they would be needing additional land to develop
and the City informed the Township that they would not and now they are coming
in with this proposal.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON indicated that there is no way that you can anticipate
what someone living around the peripheral of the City is going to do with
their land and if someone says that he wants to develop that doesn't say that
the City wants the land.
MRS. BUCK felt that the City was not doing the proper planning and the reply
was that they are putting in lift stations and they are not reacting to
certain predicaments.
COUNCILMAN POWELL stated the City likes it because it reduces the population
density.
Questions were raised about the cul -de -sacs and whether or not they will be
approved in this manner - this may not be the final plan and the City has
other cul- desacs which they are able to plow.
COUNCILMAN HARRY PETERSON stated that things were being repeated and felt that
the discussion should terminate at this point and that they move along to the
other piece of business.
COUNTY 66 IMPROVEMENTS
KATHY BUCK statec that they were not prepared to take action on this matter- -
they were awaiting an assessment map which they received just this evening.
ADJOURNMENT
On motion of Councilman Peterson (Roger), seconded by Councilman Powell, the
meeting adjourned at 10:30 P. M.
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