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COUNCIL CHAMBER
Stillwater, Minnesota
REGULAR MEETING
September 26, 1578 7:30 P. M.
The meeting was called to order by President Junker.
The Invocation was given by the Acting City Clerk, Schnell.
Present: Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
Absent: None
Also Present: Acting City Clerk, Schnell; City Attorney, Magnuson; Super-
intendent of Public Works, Shelton; Public Safety Director,
Abrahamson; Director of Parks and Recreation, Blekum;
Consulting Engineer, Ent. Chairman of the Planning
Commission, Zoller; Building Inspector, Nistca
PRESS- Stillwater Evening Gazette - Bob Liberty
White Bear Free Press - Kevin Regan
Citizens:
Jayne Finnegan Smith, Dr. F. M. McCarten, Dick Balfanz, Jim
Gannon, Jim Hunt, Stephen Sweetland, Joleen Waalan, Ronald E.
Kranz, Rockwell Hoffman, Mark Clemenson, Rod Lawson, Mark
Vierling, Andy Holdolph, Michael McGuire, Howard Harvieux,
Ron Hunt, Chris Madsen, Shirley Tibbetts, Maurice Stenerson,
Harry D. Peterson, Brad MacDonald, Mr. & Mrs. George Landmark,
Mr. & Mrs. Kenneth Kress, David Haak, Charles Pozzini, Sharon
Baker, Claire Erickson , Mrs. Douglas Ellison
INDIVIDUALS - DLEGATIONS
1. RON HUNT presented to the Mayor and City Council a calendar which RTR has
prepared to advertise the City of Stillwater and its history and for the
benefit of RTR.
2. STEPHEN SWEETLAND appeared before the City Council regarding a variance to build
a 6 foot by 17 foot bedroom addition to a bedroom on the front of his home at
214 Maryknoll Drive.
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney,
the Council granted a four foot variance to Mr. Sweetland to build a
bedroom addition to his home at 2.14 Maryknoll Drive. (all in favor)
3. LYNN WOLF, 9198 St. Croix Trail North, and CY KNOX, 7121 Jocelyn Lane, Stillwater,
appeared before the City Council with a proposal to enhance the property which
Mr. Aiple is currently leasing from the City of Stillwater. They have been ..r
working with some aerial photos of the property since they could not get a real
good description of the property to work from. They presented an artist's
conception of what they felt could be done with approximately 3,000 feet of
this property which would amount to a recreational area consisting of a parking
area with a building, a campsite area with a launching ramp with parking and
at the extreme top of the property a camping location. This would be a
compliment and much more lucrative to the City. Both parties have bee.. in-
volved in the marina business and they know what could be done with this property.
They had no concept of dollars, but could be in excess of $250,000 or $300,000
to put this program together. They were not asking for the entire parcel -
they would be interested in the northern portico of the property which would use
for their purpose.
COUNCILMAN POWELL asked the City Attorney if something like this were proposed
being aware of what has transpired already, would not they have to consult Mr.
Aiple to see if he is willing to relinquist the northern portion of the property.
DAVID MAGNUSON stated that as of right now we have no right to negotiate with any-
body concerning the possible use of the property. Aiple's lease is an absolute
option to renew it at the end of twenty years for additional twenty under the
conditions of the original lease. That has been done and from a legal point of
view there would either have to be a lawsuit to attempt to break the lease or
condemnation of a portion of the property - right now the City could deal with
him directly because he does have the right to assign or sublet the property with
the City's consent. The option has been renewed. It takes no action on the
City's part - his notification of renewing it and that is what h^ has done and _.
he has exercised his option.
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COUNCILMAN PETERSON asked if it would be proper to send a letter to Mr.
Aiple indicating that there has been a proposal presented to the City for
the north 3,000 feet or whatever and it looks of interest and that the City
and /or the developers may be interested - whether or not Mr. Aiple would be
willing to relinquis his claim to his 3,000 feet.
MR. MAGNUSON felt that this would be in order and COUNILMAN PETERSON felt it
was a reasonable proposal and one of the many proposals that may be available
for that property and indicate to him that we have received a proposal on
that piece of property and that either the City or the developers or both
would like to meet with Mr. Aiple concerning his relinquishing his claim to
that portion of the property.
MR. KNOX indicated that the minimum number of feet that they could work with
would be 2,500 feet and the depth varies based on the water level and they
did not feel that they cou'd have surveyors go down there since Mr. Aiple
does have the right to this property under his lease agreement.
"'1 On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman
Bodlovick, the Acting City Clerk was instructed to send a letter
to Mr. Aiple regarding the proposal presented by Mr. Wolf and Mr.
Knox and requesting a meeting on this matter. (all in favor)
PETITIONS
From Reliance
September 26, 1978
Development Corporation for utilities for their 46 lot plat.
On motion of Cojncilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Powell,
a resolution was introduced "ACCEPTING THE PETITION AND ORDERING A
FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR THE UTILITIES FOR THE RELIANCE DEVELOPMENT
PLAT OF 46 LOTS. - LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 151"
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell and
Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
1. This was the day and time for the public hearing on Case No. 279 for the
Greeley Nursing Home for a Special Use Permit to use a residence at 824 West
Oak Street as a patient discharge planning center.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette,
official newspaper of the City on September 15, 1978 and copies were mailed
to all property owners within 300 feet.
The Mayor opened the hearing.
JOLEEN WAALEN, Administrator for the Nursing Home, stated that they are plann-
ing to put in a discharge planning center which has been ordered by the State
Health Department and they would like to carry this one step further. When
residents are ready to go back to their own homes, whether it is to their
apartment or with some other family member of whatever, they would like to
use this residence so that they get the idea of utilizing a home -type residence -
so that they will be able to do some meal planning and they also have residents
who are at the home because of their spouses - their spouse need 24 hour
special nursing care and they are looking for something other than 24 hour
institutional type of care that they provide and they are looking for another
outlet. The Planning Commission gave them a go ahead for this proposal. They
have no plans for remodeling the structure and that is the reason that they
purchased it and the setup will remain the same as it was - kitchen as a
kitchen, etc. Person will be utilizing the facilities but they will not have
people living there as such - when the residents utilize the facilities it will
be strictly under supervision.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON asked if they proposed any commercial uses for the property
and MS. WAALEN stated that it will be an addition to their present facility -
it is a pilot program.
MATT HANMERSHCMIDT, 816 West Oak Street, residence just east of the property
in question. He and the neighbors do not feel that the property should be
used anything but residential and according to his understanding this is an
extension of their business. He could not understand how the State would ever
let the home as it is now function as you way without remodeling - the codes
are not up -to -date.
MS. WAALEN said that it is not going to be in -house living situation and that
is why they will allow them to do this and this has been checked out with the
Health Department.
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MR. HAMMERSCHMIDT said that they strongly feel - the list of names that he
had on the petition - he had secured a list from the City of those who had
received the notice of the hearing - said petition asked that the petition
be denied. He had "hear -say" information that the Nursing Home had tried to
buy property in other locations at one time or another - it was stated
emphatically to one individual that they very strongly need parking facilities
if they are to explan the nursing home facilities and thought there was some
type of rule that you had to have so much off - street parking. They are very
concerned with the commercial ventures - the nursing home, the offices that
were put into the clinic area, which they had no knowledge of the Nelson Dairy
Store - they feel that it is enfringement on their rights to put anything else
in a residential zoned area. He could not understand how they could use that
home for any type of public facility - the home is just not in condition to be
used for any public type activities. He cited the wiring and the basement that
is currently in the home. This came to light that the house was being used by
the home when they had their ice cream social this summer. He did not feel
that this was a building that public access could be provided and he felt that
it needed extensive remodeling for such uses.
MS. WAALEN stated as far as the parking situation goes when the clinic building
was vacated that they obtained a lot of their parking back - they are not
planning to add any more employees and she felt that they did not have a parking
problem. The Health Department did give them the okay to do this and because
it is a place where the residents will not be living 24 hours a day - they will
not be utilizing the basement and they will not be utilizing the upstairs. The
residents are very "gun -ho" about this project and felt that their patients
also had their rights - they are not thinking about the employees - it is for
the patients. It is another outlet for the patients and they are looking forward
to the project and she did not feel that it is a detriment to the neighborhood.
MR. HAMMERSHCMIDT stated that the property owners are going to do everything
possible to stop it because there is too much hearsay information going around
than what was initially indicated and MS. WAALEN indicated that the building
will not be torn down and this property would be used for another purpose since
they could not do this.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON indicated that they can't just tear this down and put in a
parking lot - first of all it takes Council approval and permits issued and it
just can't be torn down tomorrow.
MAYOR JUNKER indicated that the permit would be given for one year and would be
considered in another year.
MR. HAMMERSCHMIDT indicated that he has done a lot of remodeling to his home and
he will fight this as far as he can go - it might be five years down the line or
even ten years down the line - it is a residential home and could see no reason
why it had to be anything different - it impairs their rights in that particular
area to provide a permit to start something that is an extension of their business.
it is residentially zoned property and must remain that way to protect himself
and his neighbors and their investments. He asked if the Health Department has
seen the building and MS. WAALEN replied "no ". He did not know how they could
get approval without a fire alarm system.
MS. WAALEN stated that it is not going to be a 24 hour facility.
MR. HAMMERSHCMIDT asked for an opinion as to whether or not this building did
not have to meet the codes and MR. MAGNUSON replied that it does, but that there
are some provisions in the State Building Code for pre- existing structures and
they are only required to be brought up to code when they are of a certain type.
Whether it is going to be operated as a business with people coming in and out
of there, there might be requirements for the handicapped, toilet facilities
and other things - if it is not going to be used to attract business, perhaps
there would not be this need.
MR. HAMMERSCHMIDT said that he had gone through many permits for the remodeling
of his home and he had to comply with the codes for this work for his protection
and he could not see how these people could do this and have the public and the
relatives of these people without any qualifications as to fire situations,
lavatory situations and did not know how the Health Department could approve it
without seeing the building. He felt that it is ging used for public purposes
and the ice cream social was one.
COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK stated that she has dealings with the Health Department
and stated that as long as this residence or whatever building they are presently
going to use under supervision, partial, no 24 hour, no overnite stahing whatso-
ever they will be allowed to use this without conforming to the handicap code,
whatever codes are implimented if you build a new building or any addition to
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their present facility - they will
purpose that they are requesting.
requests on that one year permit -
they cannot do - at the end of one
neighbors, they lose their permit.
MR. HAMMERSHCMIDT felt that his protection was to stop it. The reasons for
making the change are not all that clear as far as he was concerned and also
his neighbors. He was not questioning anybody's honesty, intentions or any-
thing of this nature. He felt that everyone on the Council and everyone in
the room knew how the course of events goes - that if it is not stopped now
and it will not be turned around. He had talked to a number of persons who
stated that the owners had attempted to buy up other property and since Fine
Point Nursing Home closed there is a need for nursing homes in the area - if
the intentiion is to expand Greeley Nursing Home they have the rormn to do so in
the front of their property, but they do not have the off - street parking and
this is a question in their minds. The property owners do not know what it
will be five years from now - granted they can stop it next year - give them
a permit and stop it next year - what would happen if he or some of his
neighbors were on vacation a year from now when this comes up again - it will
go right through and they have nothing to say about it. They firmly disagree
with this now and since they received a letter they have a say in this matter
and that their say is "NO ".
MS. WAALEN felt that they were putting the cart before the horse - that the
people's expectations are that they are going to be building a facility
alongside- that is a subject granted "yes" - they did go in for a Certificate
of Need and they were granted a Certificate of Need - they did not hear any -
thing from the neighbors at that time when it was granted - it was in the
newspaper for many weeks - they are not asking for this
GEORGE LANGMACK, 815 West Oak Street, asked how may patients in the past year
have been in the position that you want to use to discharge them - to make
them go through the acclamation of whatever you want them to do in this home
before they do to their own home - how patients in the last year or in the
last two years - is this entirely new? Is this a necessity or is this just
an excuse to use the property for something? Wasn't it true that there was
a possibility that the supervisor would live there? Was it possible that you
wanted to use it for a training center for new employees? Was that true?
Have your finally come up with something like this here that you could probably
use - but you are getting it in, aren't you - and the Council that is what they
are absolutely what they are against - they have legal protection now - this
is zoned reisdential - the Council here says that they will give them a permit
for one year or they are inclined to - how many of these Council members and
Mayor are going to be here a year from now - that is a possibility and those
coming in would be of a different mind - members in the past have been in-
fluenced by someone that wants a special permit or special consideration -
that is always possible - they have no assurance - this Council gives them
assurance - they want to stick with their legal protection of the ordinance
that the City has - this is zoned residential and have it at that. The
Planning Commission has approved it and he questioned why the Planning Commission
and the City Council can't get together and establish zones and stick with them
so that these don't have to come up - the Council has a responsibility to the
people to a business who wants to enfringe on residential property.
JOLEEN WAALEN stated that they have 83 residents and they had two discharges
that were able to go back to their own facilities - granted that there are not
too many discharges, but out of 83 beds and the facility that we do have we
only had 26 new admits last year - they retain their residents - this would give
another outlay for those who are already in the facility. They are trying to
update the total concept of nursing home care is what the Metropolitan Council
has been telling them to do. They have been cutting the grass and have kept the
residence up - if the house has to be painted or whatever has to be done to the
facility they are going to be keeping it up as a residential facility.
CHARLES POZZINI, 723 West Olive Street, in reference to the Certificate of Need
he recalled that it was in the paper in July of 1977 and the people were to
respond and he called the State Department - the fellow he talked to said to
save his time - it didn't make any difference any more. He called him on the
12th of July and the closing date was the 20th or 22nd - he said it is cut
and dried. He knew that we need 200 more beds but wondered if this is where
we need it - he was told that it would eventually have to come back to the
Planning Commission - he told that to a couple of his other neighbors and one
of them stated that he was going to write over there regardless. He felt that
they were watching it. In reference to some of the things that have been
mentioned, he understood that the County bought a building that they were to
use for some type of training and he understood that the patients were going to
be brought in during the day and taught to cook, etc. and after they bought the
thing he understood that they had to remodel it with different type of steps
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be allowed to use this for the express
Secondly, the City can add complete
they can dictate what they can do, what
year, if it is not acceptable to the
It is the neighbors protection - not theirs.
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and everything else - he wondered if there was a correlation between the two.
Regarding parking he noticed the past few eays there are signs there "residential
parking only" on the right side going north - there were four cars there at one
time during the day - three at other times.
MS. WAALEN explained that they have home - delivered meals coming out of their
facility so during the noon time they have an overload - 11:15 to 12:00 Noon -
Mr. Pozzini added that the cars were there at 8:15 and again at 1:10 and Ms.
Waalen indicated that would be their problem.
MR. POZZINI added that he was told by Mr. Thompson that the manager of the rest
home was going to live there - he wants to do everything he can for the old people.
MS. WAALEN stated this is the plan at this time - there are many stories that
have been going around - none of the people have come to her and asked her what
they would be going at Greeley Nursing Home or what they were going to be doing
with the Fred Thompson home - she would have told them before they went through
the Special Use Permit - she stated that they received letters before the Planning
Commiss ion. She was here representing the residents and the families of the
residents. (She was informed that they do not receive notices of the Planning
Commission - the only notice is in the paper of their meetings).
BRUCE KRAMER, 813 West Olive Street, his feelings were the same as the other part ?_s
that had already spoken - he felt that the property should stay residential as a
residential use and he questioned the actual need as shown by Ms. Waalen that the
Nursing Home needs this for this type of facility that they want it for. He could
not understand why whatever amount of money was paid for this home was uses to dis-
charge two persons in the entire year and for some minor activities throughout the
year.
MR. HAMMERSCCMIDT stated that they just can't believe that that property is intended
to be strictly for this and nothing else because the future is going to bring
something different. They have their rights - it is zoned residential and they
want it to sew residential.
MS. WAALEN stated that it goes back to the Council and to the neighbors as to what
we can do with that property - if a Special Use Permit is granted that is what they
will have to use it for and they can vary from that and if they do they will have to
come back and the neighbors will have every right to come back to contest it - why
can't they have a year to utilize it the way we would like to utilize it . . . .
MR. HAPMERSHCMIDT indicated that after the ice cream social he had contacted the City
regarding this home and they wrote the home a letter with a copy to him indicating
that they had to have permits for any remodeling, etc. He indicated that he did not
see a permit for the roof that is being put on the garage.
MS. WAALEN apoligized for not getting permit for roof on the garage and if there is
any remodeling that has to be done they will contact the City for the permits.
MARY CLARE HUELSMAN, 401 South Greeley Street, endorsed the statements that have
been made by her neighbors and pointed out the fact it is not a personal issue
between them and the residents - it has already been zoned residential - that is
their protection - and as long as they do not encroach and promise more to the
residents than they have already promised them when they enter that nursing home,
then you are delivering anything that you have promised, but she did not think
that they can turn around and rezone the neighborhood what the people have bought
on certain terms.
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of each of those being
they are usually on a
they come in with as
COUNCILMAN PETERSON asked what the average length of stay
discharged?
MS. WAALEN stated that it would be six months to a year -
rehabili_ation program. It depends upon the illness that
to how much they have forgotten.
COUNCILWOMAN HDOVLOCK asked about the zoning for the property on which the Thompson
home is located and she was informed "two- family" and theh are rezoning even with
the Special Use Permit.
The question was raised about notices of public hearings and there are no notices
for the Planning Commission meetings - there are only notices for the hearings
before the City Council and that is what the neighbors received.
MR. HAMMERSCHMIDT - this is a Democratic process and you send letters to those that are
concerned and all those that were contacted and so. . e were not contacted that live in
the area strongly oppose this and in his mind it has to be turned down.
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COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK asked the City Attorney if a one year approval is
given at any point and time when the neighbors have complained can be
withdrawn.
DAVID i-1AGNUSON stated that is true - it can be - the City Council could, of
course, make that conditions of the Special Use Permit with many different
criteria about the appearance of the place,its specific use - could tie it
down specifically to actually what is used for and if there were disobedience
from the conditions it could be revoked.
On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman
Powell, the Council denied the Special Use Permit to the Greeley
Nursing Home to use the home at 824 West Oak Street for a patient
discharge planning center.
AYES -- Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson and Powell
NAYS -- Councilwoman Bodlovick (motion carried)
THE MAYOR DECLARED A RECESS FROM 8:25 to 8:35 P. M.
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2. This was the day and time set for the public hearing on Case No. 336 - Ronald
E. Kranz, for a Special Use Permit for a Chiropractic Office at 215 West
Myrtle Street.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette, the
official newspaper of the City on September 15, 1978 and copies were mailed to
all property owners within 300 feet.
The Mayor opened the hearing.
No one appeared in favor or opposed to the request - Dr. Kranz was in attendance
and stated that his immediate neighbors have no objection to this request -
the Planning Commission approved this request.
The Mayor closed the hearing
On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman Mahoney,
the Council followed the recommendation of the Planning Commission
and granted a Special Use Permit to Ronald E. Kranz for a Chiropratic
Office at 215 West Myrtle Street. (all in favor)
3. This was th' day and time set for the public hearing on Case No. 338 - Rockwell
Hoffman, 1704 West Oak Street, for a two foot variance and a seven foot variance
to build a garage attached to his home.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Gazette, the official
newspaper of the City on September 15, 1978 and copies were mailed to all
property owners within 300 feet.
The Mayor opened the hearing
No one appeared in favor or opposed to this request
The Mayor closed the hearing
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick,
the Council granted the two variances for a garage for Rockwell Hoffman
at 1704 West Oak Street, subject to the conditions setforth by the
Planning Commission. (all in favor)
4. This was the day and time set for the public hearing on Case No. 339 for Rose
Morgan and Mark Clememmn for a variance to construct a garage in the sideyard
at 908 South Sixth Street.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette, the
official newspaper of the City on September 15, 1978 and copies were mailed
to all property owners within 300 feet.
The Mayor opened the hearing.
Mr.CEmenson stated that the reason for the request was that he wanted the garage
closer to the house as he keeps lots of tools stored there and it would be safer
than being in the backyard.
No one appeared opposed to this request.
The Mayor closed the hearing.
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On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Peterson,
the Council granted the sideyard variance for the construction of a
garage at 908 South Sixth Street as recommended by the Planning
Commission. (all in favor)
5. This was the day and time set for the public hearing on Case No. 340 for
John Ogren for a Special Use Permit for a service station at 103 North Main
Street.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette,
the official newspaper of the City on September 15, 1978 and copies were
mailed to all property owners within 300 feet.
The Mayor opened the hearing.
JOHN OGREN informed the City Clerk this afternoon that he was dropping the
case because of a change in plans and he will have to appear before the
Planning Commission with a different set of plans.
No one appeared in favor or opposed to this request.
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney,
the hearing on Case No. 340 was continued to October 10, 1978.
(all in favor)
6. This was the day and time set for the public hearing on Case No. 337 - Rod
Lawson, 906 South Greeley Street for a variance for a deck to the south of
his home - five foot variance.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette,
the official newspaper of the City, on September 15, 1978 and copies were mailed
to all property owners within 300 feet.
The Mayor opened the hearing
COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK indicated that Mr. Lawson did not appear at the Planning
Commission and that no decision was made at that time.
JEFF ZOLLER informed the City Council that Mr. Lawson received his notice of the
meeting the day after the meeting and that is the reason that he did n.t appear.
MR. LAWSON explained to the Council that he has talked to the neighbor on the
south which is the one that is affected by this and she has no objections to it.
The point of the deck would come within five feet of the property line on the
south - the Bergen home is located much closer to the street - they have a double
garage between the house and the lot line.
No one appeared opposed to this request.
The Mayor closed the hearing
On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman
Mahoney, the Council granted the five foot variance for a deka to
Rod Lawson at 906 South Greeley Street. (all in favor)
7. This was the day and time set for the public hearing on Case No. 324 - Swager
Bros. to divide Lots 4, 5 and 6 Sabinp Additun to front on Meadowlark Drive.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette, the
official newspaper of the City on September 15, 1978 and copies were mailed to
all property owners within 300 feet.
The Mayor opened the hearing
MARK VIERLING, representing Cecelia Bergen stated that Mrs. Bergen has been
advised of the proposed re- subdivision of the property and she is in agreement
with it - as her understood it, this property would 'e re- subdivided into two
buildable lots abutting Meadowlark Drive. He also understood that the Planning
Commission had not heard the matter and thought it would be advisable to defer
the matter and conditionally grant the application pending the Planning Commission's
hearing.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON questioned why the Planning Commission hasn't heard this and
he was informed that Swagers did not appear at the meeting - they withdrew their
case and the letter for this request came in the mail the same date as of that
of the meeting date of the Planning Commission, and the next time it was on the
agenda the applicant did not show up and there are no plans available as to what
they are proposing.
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MR. MAGNUSON stated it depends in this community as to whether or not it is
public water as defined by the Statutes - McKusick Lake would be public water
in the jurisdication of the DNR- that parcel of land was ever a part of the
lake, that parcel would be a part of the public waters and it would require
State approval. In the City's case it might be something to consider, we
have no Wetlands Ordinance that applies to waters that are not public waters,
so little tiny swamps in our City that are not part of public waters could be
filled without requiring any additional permits - this is probaby something
that the Planning Commission should make a study on. In this case there could
be a part that could be public waters and the State would be involved.
COUNCILMAN POWELL asked Mr. Magnuson if there was not something in our ordinance
which states that you are not to deflect the natural flow of water and if this
was filled in it would flow upon some else's property and MR. MAGNUSON concurred
that it is under the ordinance and the common laws it is prohibitive to case
damage to another - sometimes we are not talking about flow, but water standing.
MR HAAK stated that there is a two block area that naturally drains into this
swamp - the storm water there is run -off from the snow in the spring, :.tc.
and it settles in that particular spot.
QUESTIONS were raised about the ownership of the property and it was clarified
that Mrs. Bergen is the fee owner of the property and Swager Bros. presently
own same on a contract for deed.
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DAVID HAAK, 504 North Owens, stated that his land abuts this property on the
east. He has lived in the area for 43 years and the land in question is just
a swamp there is no possible way that he can fill that land in without covering
up the swamp and driving the water upon his land - he has a garden down there
he has another neighbor who has a big garden in there and his garden would be
completely flooded out. It was his understanding that there is a State Law
that you cannot cover up a swamp and cause water to come up someone else's
land. When he is talking about filling,that total area was only fill in the
approximate north one -tenth of the land -- depth of eight to ten feet. Orig-
inally that area was a part of a lake and the street car company came in and
filled in to run the streetcar tracks - about 15 years ago when they put the
sewer in that area they did put a sewer out in that particular piece of road
and they redid the road - about five years ago when they separated sanitary
sewers and storm sewers, someone - it is questionable who- possibly the City
gave the contractor permission to fill in a great deal more there - the City
claims that they did not have anything to do with it, but when he talked to
the supervisor of the contrcution job they stated that they had permission
to do this
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MR. MAGNUSON stated that either party could request the sub - division and it
is appropriate under the sub - division code incidential or prior to the grant-
ing of the permit to get reasonable assurances on the drainage and without
question that can be tied into looking at the sub - division. This matter should
be resolved first and any questions about public waters then the DNR should
also be resolved before any ddcisions are made about the sub - division.
It was clarified that the contract for deed is contitioned upon Swager
Bros. obtaining building permits for the property.
MR. VIERLING stated that Swager Bros. have problems obtaining building permits
because there are drainage problems on the lots and that is another problem.
The sub - division itself of the land into two buildable sites in his opinion
sholld be separate from the building permits and would have to be resolved
before anyone could build on them.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that the Sub - Division Ordinance is pretty clear on a lot
of different things - one is that the drainage should be adequately explained
and be taken care of when the application is made for sub - division.
COUNCILMAN POWELL felt that it would be proper to continue the hearing and
instruct the Planning Commission to view the property and also the City Council
members because it seems reasonable to know what you are talking about - if
there is anything that can be done that is reasonable it should be done - if
it is a swamphole or something, then they should know that too.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON said that he had checked the property and the fact that this
has been scheduled twice before the Planning Commission neither time the party
has appeared for one reason or another or contacted anyone . . JEFF ZOLLER
stated he did say he would come the first time, the second time he did not
show up.
KENNETH KRESS, 403 North Sherburne, stated that his property abuts on this and
one thing he felt was a sink -hole and everytime you fill one in you get more
pressure. It probably won't hurt here in Stillwater too much as you can probably
drain it into the river, but somewhere along the line somebody is going to get
caught up when we are a suburb of St. Paul and there are houses from here to
St. Paul, which is going to happen and you fill in everyone of these pools on
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to go and that is down the blacktop or the concrete and into somebody's
basement. He felt that nobody has built there in the past. If you fill that one
in, someone along the line is going to get water into their basement. He
made reference to problems in Rochester.
WILBERT MONSON stated that we can go up on West Wilkins Street and see some of
the results of building flows and water tables and questioned how long before
some ofthese homes are going to sink - he did not feel that we had to look at
Rochester.
MR. VIERLING stated that there may well be substantial problems there and he felt
that was something that the City Engineer or some professional in this area should
look into - denying the request right off the bat effectively what you are doing
is condemning the property. Mrs. Bergen will havc' no use for it. It should be
looked into and make sure if the condition of the property is such that it cannot
be built on - have an expert look at it - if it can't that is fine, but if not . . .
The Mayor closed the hearing.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON stated that he disagreed about the fact that if we deny the
permit that they are condemning the property because the property has been there
for years and years and Mrs. Bergen may or may not have owned it for this period
of time - the fact that it hadn't been built on and it had been a swamp and it
still is, it is concluded that you can't build on it and Mr. Swager has been
scheduled twice for hearing and has not appeared and moved that the request
be denied.
COUNCILMAN MAHONEY seconded the motion. (all in favor)
8. This was the day and time set for the public hearing on Case No. 334 - Reliance
Development Co. for approval of a preliminary plat on Boutwell Road.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Evening Gazette, the
official newspaper of the City on September 15, 1978 and c 'es were mailed to
all property owners within 300 feet.
The Mayor opened the hearing
MR. ANDY HOLDOLPH presented the plan to he City Council indicating that the
property is on the north side of County Highway No. 12 - be divided into four
lots - 27,000 square feet per lot. There is essentially one access to the property
through old Boutwell Road where the road comes down the grade.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON stated that according to the way it is platted Lot No. 3 has
only 25 feet of frontage and MR. HOLDLPH said this would be a long driveway.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON stated that according to the Building Code on the requirements -
where there is an odd shaped lot as he understands it they take the average depth
where you have 25 foot frontage that extends back for 125 feet what does that do
for your building requirements? The only access is off Boutwell Court and it
appears that the frontage on that lot which is Lot No. 3 is 25 feet. It goes back
125 feet and what does that do for the setback?
JEFF ZOLLER stated that he would have to get a variance and MR. NISKA stated that
in the ordinance it states that no lot shall have less than 30 feet on the front
or back, so he would need a five foot variance here.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that Section 903 of the Sub - Division Ordinance applies here.
The model sub - division requires 300 feet on a public street for the sub - division
of coral land and the change when we adopted the ordinance was not made.
MR. ZOLLER stated that when they approved this they were aware of that narrow
lot because of the fact that he was going to have the buildable part of the lot
at the very end, that would become a long drive -way and he would have to have a
turn- around to facilitate emergency vehicles - that was their main concern on a
long driveway.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that the basis for requiring frontage on a public street is
the need to have reasonable access for emergency vehicles - that is why long
driveways are discouraged and even long cul -de -sacs under the sub - division code
are discouraged.
The Planning Commission had recommended water and sewer and that is the sensible
way to go. MR. ELLIOTT stated that the problem would be solved along with their
petition for utilities for their other development and run the mains under County
No. 12 and there would be some problems in getting long services back to some of
these lots and it is solvable and they would not need a pump.
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MR. MAGNUSON stated that this is a preliminary plat so the next time the
Council sees it, it will be a hardshell and at this stage the engineer
should look into it and be given property opportunity study it and make his
recommendations and this should be done before the Council passes on it.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON asked how much would be necessary to put Boutwell Court
in - it is a cut -off part of a cul -de -sac and MR. HOLDOLPH stated that it
would take relatively little grading to accomplish this.
The Mayor closed the hearing.
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman
Bodlovick, the Council directed that the Reliance Development
Preliminary Plat of property north of County No. 12 be referred to
the Consulting Engineer for his study and recommendation and report
back at the next regular meeting. (all in favor)
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1. This was the day and time set for the bid opening for the electrical work
for the Croixwood Seventh Addition Park.
The advertisement for bids was published in the Stillwater Evening
Gazette, the official newspaper of the City on September 11 and 12, 1978.
On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Peterson,
the Acting City Clerk was directed to open the one bid received from
Linner Electric Co., Stillwater for the electrical work at the Croixwood
Seventh Addition Park. (all in favor)
Total Bid - Bid Bond - $12,470.00
On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, the
Council accepted the bid of Linner Electric Co., Stillwater in the amount
of $12,470.00 for the electrical work at the Croixwood Seventh Addition
Park, subject to the approval of the City Attorney regarding the property
discrepancy with Washington County. (all in favor)
2. On motion of Councilnan Powell, seconded by Councilman Peterson, the Clerk
made the second reading of an ordinance entitled "AN ORDINANCE PROHIBITING
CONSUMPTION AND POSSESSION OF INTOXICATING LIQUOR AND NON- INTOXICATING
MALT LIQUOR IN LOWELL PARK AND WASHINGTON PARK AND ESTABLISHING A CURFEW
IN PARKS WITHIN THE CITY ".
The ordinance was read section by section followed by roll call after
each section and all members of the Council voted in the affirmative. The
chair then put the question, "Shall this ordinance pass ?" and on roll call
the ordinance was unanimously adcpted.
3. On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Powell, a
resolution was introduced "CHANGING THE NAME OF TWO STREETS IN THE STILL -
WATER INDUSTRIAL PARK ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
4. The City had received a quotation from Giebler - Jahnke for the repair of
the band shell at Pioneer Park in the amount of $500.00.
HARRY D. PETERSON felt that the City would be making a mistake in taking
down the cover on the band shell because it does provide a shade for the
lighting when there are musical groups in there and also it gives pro-
tection to the people using the park during a rainstorm. He did not feel
that the damage was as much as was expected over the number of years.
MR. BLEKUM stated that we will see how much money we get from the insur-
ance company and then proceed with the work. There is a lot of dry -rot
in that superstructure.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON felt that when we do the work, if the City does
decide to do the work, as long as they are there, they could possibly
replace some of the dry -rot at the same time at an additional cost, but
it would be less than having to come in to just remove the dry -rot.
5. LAND CONDEMNATION FOR PARKING PURPOSES - DOWNTOWN STILLWATER
CLAIRE ERICKSON stated that he would like to ask the Council not to
condemn the property - they have made their position fairly clear - that
it is unfair to them to take their property - they bought it in 1970 - he felt
that the paking lot would benefit very few businesses in town - it is certainly
is not something that will benefit most of the businesses in downtown - it will
help the ones right next door and there are very few there. He felt that most
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businesses today when tye do go into a b sin ss they are required to have off -
street parking - they do in all of the places they build and do business. When
Mr. McGuire went into his project he was very much aware that he did not have
adequate parking for his establishment there and he felt it was unfair for the
City to take nis lot for his parking lot - he thinks it is even more unfair
for the City to take it off the tax rolls and have the City's citizens pay part
of the bill for the parking lot for private business. He realized that some of
the merchants want to pay half of the cost of the lot, but he feels it is
certainly unfair.
COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK agreed with Mr. Erickson that her complaints were that
the citizens of Stillwater "us people living on the hill" do not want to pay
for a parking lot downtown and she can almost sympathize with them - have an
avenue so that we can "yes" that we can have this parking "without everybody
in the City paying for it" if there is a group that is willing to buy half what
we hear the downtown retail merchants - is the revenue generating by that pay
for the other half.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON stated that we have received pledges for the cost involved
in the condmning the property and in spite of Mr. Erickson's letter in the
paper, I had no adverse calls on that by his drawing attention to that in his
letter - there has been a drive underfoot b y the retailers - a very large
number not only located down at that end of town, but all ends of town to
raise the money necessary - the City has an estimate of the value of that piece
of property from a certified appraiser and felt that we should proceed first
of all with an offer to Mr. Erickson to purchase the property at that price -
if that is not acceptable with Mr. Erickson, if there is a reasonable counter-
offer on his part, but if not the City should proceed with condemnation.
SHARON BAKER, 1019 Nightingale Blvd., asked how much in pledges and COUNCILMAN
PETERSON did not know off hand, but he did know that it was over the appraised
value and MAYOR JUNKER stated that we are under the $100,000 figure. She further
stated that it was her understanding that the parking meter business was a losing
business operation.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON felt that it is a service that is provided not only for the
shoppers who do go downtown to assure them of a place to park by turning the
traffic over and feels that if we do not have a viable downtown section you be-
come a bedroom community - you won't be a free - standing community, which Stillwater
is in every sense of the word, and there are not many of them left. He was informed
by Mrs. Baker that the loss was $200 per year and he did not feel that was a very
great loss.
JAMES GANNON asked if this would mean free parking at night for McGuires or would
there be a charge a night too, and COUNCILMAN PETERSON stated that a decision has
not been made on tnis and they would have to be fed.
MR. ERICKSON stated that he could not understand how the stores that are down by
the drug store and down by Kolliners and that part of town and further north and
that is where all the business is - there isn't really too much south of the lot
that they have - can't see where people are going to park in that lot by the Brick
Alley and walk a block or two to do their shopping north and that part of the
problem that we are having here is that in addition to having gasoline we are
merchandisers and complete with quite a different number of merchants in town
and it is very unusual to have the Chamber of Commerce in town go on record
opposing a new business coming into town and it certainly looks to him that they
are getting pledges here to keep a competitor out.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON - in all of the discussion that there has been over the
months and years that Mr. Erickson had the permit which was taken out in 1972
and did not elect to exercise for many years and there never ever has been to
his knowledge been one word mentioned about the fact that you are a merchandiser
other than gasoline; and secondly, in his statement that people won't walk one or
two blocks - if he were to come to Stillwater he would see people walking from
not only the south end all the way to the north end, but the reverse - they will
walk many, many blocks, not one or two blocks.
COUNCILMAN POWELL - the businesses that have developed there recently have invested
a lot of money - we have the Freighthouse who might compete with Mr. McGuire's
establishment and they need parking - they have their own parking but they need
more, Vittorios need parking - it is a facility that we need and we have none down
there - he felt that it was improper to say that we are trying to keep you out
of business because we are afraid that you might compete with our other stores -
we have the Mall that was at one time considered a threat to the downtown and it
has proven to be an asset. We have four very excellent restaurants in town that
do bring in a lot of people and they go to places like the Poor Butterfly and
some of the other ones and the money that they are investing and the money that
they are willing to put into this parking lot indicates the need for parking.
DICK JEANS from Reed Drug - it is true he would not benefit from that parking
lot but it will relieve some of the pressure on his parking lot in his area -
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he felt that the fillirg station would further compound the problems in
downtown - we can't get a new bridge and we are strangled with traffic
and that a filling station would back the traffic up further than it is at
the present time.
JIM RUNT, 1009 South Fourth Street, stated that he is one of the people on
the hill - in Red Wing they are taking some of the historical buildings to
put in parking and he felt this is a detriment to their historic character -
he felt that the health and economy of the downtown is vitally important
to everybody in Stillwater - if we do not have a viable downtown we are a
bedroom community - as a community we must support the downtown and it
brings it back to use is taxes.
MONTY BRINE, Brine's Meat Market, this will not benefit them directly, but
it will relieve the traffic problems behind their business - people do park
at both ends of town and walk from one establishment to another - as far as
parking at the front door of a business they would not be building places
like Maplewood Mall. Another consideration of the Carl Dale study was that
there be no more gas stations in downtown Stillwater - all of the financial
commitments that have been made in downtown Stillwater - should consider how
the entrance to the City will look with the gas station there - with the
property landscaping it would not just look like a parking lot and it would
get rid of the "velvet painting dealers" that park there.
BILL HAHN, 209 South Main Street, the support to the parking lot is sort of
a team effort - the downtown is coming on very strong - the First National
�. Bank with a couple of million dollars invested here - Dr. Standafer's new
clinic, apart from the NSP building, Vittorio's and Perkl's - people are
investing large sums in downtown Stillwater and we have to protect their
investments by providing as much parking as we possibly can and felt that
they are going to operate as a team downtown and it is going to be good for
all of them - the continuing of the investments in downtown is going to
benefit us all and bring our tax valuation up and make this a very solid
business venture.
M.R. SHELTON stated that the cost of the meters would be about 5115.00 each
which would be roughly $10,000.
WILBERT MONSON asked about the cost to the taxpayers in town and he was not
interested in putting in parking lots for the Boom Company - he was informed
that there would be an estimated total cost of $134,000, and there are pledges
received in excess of the appraised value.
DAVE MAGNUSON stated that there is a statute that authorizes municipalities
to acquire and develop parking lots because the legislature senses the need
that the community has for these things - the one requirement that they do
state in the Statute is that if the bonds, the General Obligation portion of
the financing, is going to be done without a vote, that is without a refer-
endum, then the improvement has to be done by special assessment. Because
we will not know the cost of the improvement until we pay the final court
award on Mr. Erickson's property, our appraisal is just what our man thinks
it is and the jury in the case could award more than that - we would not
only have to have an agreement with a specific amount from the specific
individuals who have agreed to this assessment, but we would need their
agreement that they could be re- assessed on a pro -rated share - fifty percent
or more as a special assessment. Perhaps the amount they have now is enough
but there is no way that we can be absolutely sure. In order to have our
bonds be marketable we have to have more than fifty percent by special assess-
ment. The revenues generated from the meters would be pledged to retire the
debt.
QUESTIONS were raised as to the cost to the general public and MR ELLIOTT
stated that the matter of assessing parking lots - there are many methods
of assessments relating co the proximity of the business to the lot - getting
credit for the fact that the business may have some on -site stalls and some-
times a portion is also on general taxing. The estimated cost of the lot is
$52,000 for the lot with some beautifucation, but does not include the cost
of the meters.
MIKE MC GUIRE, stated that the plans that he presented to the City they
indicated parking for sixty cars but that was based on the removal of the
NSP transformers which are suppose to be moved out of there in 1980. Not
only the Brick Alley but the whole downtown is doing so much better in the
past year.
MAYOR JUNKER stated that he is not in favor of a filling station at the south
end of Stillwater but he questioned whether they were being fair to Mr. Erick-
son by condemning and taking this property to put in a parking lot which we
need, but if we look back - we have ten places including Mr. McGuire's - let
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them be established and never once have we said to them - where is your
parking? Now Mr. Erickson comes and wants to build a station, which is not
the greatest thing on the south end of town, but is the City being fair as a
Council taking his land through condemnation to put a parking there now with
80 stalls and he did not feel that Bob Thompson is not going to get any hard-
ware business from people parking down there. He felt that the City was
being unfair.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON asked for his alternative and MAYOR JUNKER stated if we
want to condemn it we should put a small park on Erickson's property and
let the Brick Alley owners put a parking lot in the back for his shops, when
Jerry Perkl gets ready he does his, Vittorios does his - nobody buys him a
dumptruck to run his business and he has been here 44 years.
COUNCILMAN POWELL stated that when the parking lots on Chestnut and Water
were put in what they actually did supplied parking for Reeds, for the Coast -
to- Coast, Olsons and there was a need for it and it could be that their
businesses w,re not specifically designed for that. A Parking Committee
established where the sites should be - bought the buildings and put parking
lots in and felt that we were doing essentially the same thing now.
MAYOR JUNKER felt that the old bus garage should have been condemned and the
City paid $50,000 to $75,000 for that and some of the other pieces of property
the people were going out of business.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON stated that you do pay for land values and that is not only
in the buildings but in the land - we paid $75,000 for the bus garage - it was
for the land it sat on and many properties that are bought all of the value are
in the land not in the buildings that are on the land.
COUNCILMAN POWELL - we are not buying expensive property - we are not going to
tear down the Cosmopolitan State Bank to put in a parking lot because It is
too expensive. The City bought Erickson's property which was going broke
(Erickson Furniture) and we needed these parking lots.
MAYOR JUNKER - these people can probably buy and sell Stillwater and we are
condemning their property so that they can't build a filling station but we are
going to supply a parking lot and have supplied it for a year. None of the other
parties complained - they wanted out - our parking problems will probably never
be erased until we build a three or four story ramp.
DICK BALFANZ, stated he was on the Council in 1972 when the City gave the
Erickson's a building permit and within that year he put in a foundation and
then the energy crunch came and nothing was done and he was issued a permit
later and nothing has happened yet and if he had that piece of property he
would pay $52,000 for his own parking lot and make a bundle off it.
MR. ERICKSON the two- way time was all
happen.
MR. BALFANZ added that you were to put up the building to comply with the
aesthetics of the rest of the town and it was completely changed - the foundation
was put up, the tank was sunk in the ground and there were some problems there
because of being in the flood plain zone.
MONTY BRINE asked why can't we look to the future and take care of the businesses
that we have now - if the Grand Garage and Gallery could buy the property behind
no place n and y think
let's take advantage this property's would also, but there is
BLCVICK
sked lot. Thetmajorityof residents
the money
is there.
COUNCILMAN POWELL - that would be the most productive parking lot in town and it
would not necessarily have to be metered at the same rate as the rest of them are
metered at and not necessarily at the same hours - you would have to give some
special considers =ion for this one because this is where the people will park
to use the facilities that need it and it is conceivable that we could collect
money until 8 or 9 at night and when you do this and do generate more business
that the whole town benefits and if we kept an accurate record of the revenue
from that lot it would be self - sufficient. and
th at R is U more centrally than e any v of them w for h l a little tour e and y the y only
time that it is filled is when there are people parked there who are taking a
boat ride.
DAVE MAGNUSON stated that the next step, if you decide to go ahead with it,
that someone move that the improvement be ordered - that would include - not
have the condemnation separate because you could get the land and nobody to pay
for it - you want to tie everything together - have an improvement hearing on
the improvement.
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The Mayor closed the hearing.
On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Peterson, that
they proceed with the improvements and either enter into negotiations
with Mr. Erickson or if that fails seek condemnation and the date of
the hearing was set for November 28, 1978 at 7:30 P. M. (all in favor)
(Mr. Elliott and the Acting City Clerk are to check out the parties
to be assessed by agreement and there would be no district assessments
as such per the City Attorney)
NEW BUSINESS
1. On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Powell, the
Council authorized the refund of building permit fees issued directly
to the Board of Water Commissioners for two building permits for the
construction on the water tanks on the Stillwater Industrial Park, but
if same was paid by the Contractor then it is questionable. (all in favor)
2. On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, a
resolution was introduced "DIRECTING THE PAYMENT OF THE BILLS ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS- -None (see resolutions)
3. On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, the
Council designated Jeff Zoller to send a certified copy of the Historical
Preservation Ordinance to the National Historical Office. (all in favor)
4. Mr. Zoller reported that the Department of Transportation sent a letter
to Mr. Abrahamson concerning the traffic problem at the corner of Nelson
Street and Main and they stated that they budgeted money for a new stop
light at the corner of Myrtle and Main Street, but it will depend upon
what the City wants to work out on the traffic problems - he suggested
that the Planning Commission, the Downtown Council, Wally and Jack and
the City Council get together and see if something can be worked out with
the Highway Department.
Mr. Zoller was directed to send a copy of this letter to the Retail
Council. Discussion was also held regarding the lights on Main and
Chestnut.
INDIVIDUALS AND DELEGATIONS - continued
- - -JIM GANNON appeared before the Council regarding the parking lot which Glenn
Wendorff leases from the City of Stillwater and Mr. Wendorff does not wish to
continue the lease and he requested permission to pick up this lease.
He we- instructed to have Mr. Wendorff send a letter to the City of
Stillwater indicating he would like to give up his lease and then Mr. Gannon
should send a letter to the City requesting consideration of same.
Questions were raised about the number of cars the are parked there and
he indicated that business was good - but they keep changing all of the time.
He indicated that he and Charlie Salmore keep the grass cut around the property
at the present time.
- - -MRS. DOUGLAS ELLISON appeared before the City Council regarding a letter that
she mailed to the Mayor regarding statements made by Mr. Fierke or a salesman
from Orrin Thompson that utilities could be supplied to the Reliance Development
property and questioned whether or not a member of the City Council made a
statement to Orrin Thompson about this and no one admitted to making such a
statement.
It was further stated that earlier this evening a petition was accepted
for sewer and water for this development and the City Council ordered a feasi-
bility study for same.
MRS. ELLISON indicated that they had to pay a premium price for their
property since there would be no development behind them since the parcels would
have to be two or five acres and would be very sparse and they have denied that
such statements were made by their salesman.
COUNCILMAN POWELL stated that there is a possibility that somebody miscon-
strued something because at one time Reliance Development wanted to build low -
rent housing there and at that time the Council was opposed to that.
The Council took no action on this matter - Mrs. Ellison was seeking
clarification from the Council on these statements.
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All Construction, Inc.
10740 - 110th St. N., Stillwater
September 26, 1978
APPLICATIONS
On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, the
following Contractor's Licenses were granted: (all in favor)
Jim Burton Carpenter
R. #2, Hudson, Wisconsin 54016
Gorco Construction Co.
3384 Brownlow Ave., St. Louis Park 55426
Raymond Haapoja dba Sun -Ray Energy
R. 02, Box 179, Mora, Mn. 55051
John M. Harri dba Industrial Roof Maintenance
& The Insulation Company New
2321 Oakridge Rd., Stillwater 55082 General
Darrell G. Knutson General New
10787 St. Croix Tr. No, Stillwater
North Suburban Excavating New
8424 Noble Ave. N., Brooklyn Park 55443 Excavators
Pritchard & Sons Contracting, Inc. General New
2037 Novak Ave. N., Stillwater
Dick Roby Construction Co. New
7208 James Avenue So., Richfield 55423 General
Richard Vanderhoff & Lowell Vanderhoff
2389 Geneva Ave., Oakdale, Mn. 55119 Excavators New
Robert Zahler Construction General Renewal
11700 St. Croix Tr. No., Stillwater
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Insulation
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Renewal
Renewal
Renewal
COMMUNICATIONS
From the Metro Council on regional water quality management plan - copy in the
Clerk's Office.
Rom Mark Hud Aerial Surveys - fall flying season.
Mr. Shelton was directed to inform them that we will wait another year before
we order another aerial survey of the City of Stillwater due to the number of changes
to be made during the coming year and we would then have a complete survey.
From the League of Minnesota Cities - Regional Meeting - November 1, 1978 - Brooklyn
Center.
Councilman Powell and Councilman Peterson indicated that they might
attend this meeting.
From a citizen regarding the use of the property at 518 North Third Street.
Mr. Niska and Mr. Abrahamson were directed to check out the complaints.
From Wallace Abrahamson to Sheriff Edward Westphal expressing his appreciation
for the services rendered by Ike Risenhoover.
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CITY COORDINATOR'S REPORT
1. Passenger Waiting Shelters - Councilman Powell indicated that he was contacted
again about putting in a shelter on Croixwood Blvd. and he will be happy to do
it if he can get a sponsor and approval of the Council and it would be bigger
than the school bus shelters. He will secure a sponsor and come in with a
request.
The Council did not wish to participate in the Metropolitan Transit
Commission's program.
2. On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, the Acting from
City Clerk was directed to send the accident Mildred Karl to the
McGarry- Kearney Insurance Agency.
3. On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, the Acting
City Clerk was directed to send the Conciliation Court Claim from Kerry D.
Brown to the McGarry- Kearney Insurance Co. and Stillwater Insurance Agency.
(all in favor)
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4. Discussion was held on the problems with the current tree removal and
some of the damage that is being done in damaging people's yards.
Also Mr. Shelton has received complaints about trouble with the
contractors.
CONSULTTTING ENGINEER'S REPORT
1. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Peterson, a
resolution was introduced "ESTABLISHING MUNICIPAL STATE AID STREETS -
63rd STREET FROM GREELEY STREET TO STILLWATER R ('4D ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
2. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Peterson, a
resolution was introduced "REMOVING MUNICIPAL STATE AID STREET DESIGNA-
TION - GREELEY STREET FROM MYRTLE STREET TO MULBERRY STREET ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
3. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Peterson, a
resolution was introduced "REMOVING MUNICIPAL STATE. AID DESIGNATION -
ORLEANS STREET FROM GREELEY STREET TO STILLWATER ROAD ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS- -None (see resolutions)
4. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Peterson, a
resolution was introduced "SETTING THE HEARING DATE OF OCTOBER 11, 1978
AT 7:30 P. M. FOR THE HEARING ON THE PROPOSED ASSESSMENTS FOR LOCAL
IMPROVEMENT NO. 129 -1"
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
5. On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, the
City Attorney was instructed to contact Vacil Kalinoff indicating that
the City has a petition for the improvement of Lookout Drive and request
that he get this problem squared away immediately on the Sunnyslope
Addition Plat. (all in favor)
6. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, a
resolution was introduced "ORDERING IMPROVEMENTS AND APPROVING PLANS
AND S ^ECIFICATIONS AND DIRECTING THE CLERK TO ADVERTISE FOR BIDS FOR
LOCAL IMPROVEMENT NO. 157, SAID BIDS TO BE RETURNABLE NOVEMBER 9, 1978
AT 3:00 P. M."
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS- -None (see resolutions)
7. MR. ELLIOTT explained the proposed improvement on Nightingale Boulevard for
the sewer and water extensions as requested by Mr. Etter and Mr. Armstrong
and this project be added in - they have eptitioned the Town Board for
the improvement - if the Town Board goes through the hearing procedure it
..J could be assessed by the Town Board and the money could be paid back to
the City, if the City elects to include it along with the improvements.
There are four property owners - one has a service off the end of the line
who is Donald Anderson and it was indicated that the Council had given them
permission to hook in - the assessment route is the best route and they
will have to have a hearing and three out of the four will petition for it
and a hearing would be required and at the hearing it will come out that
four property owners are benefited and Mr. Anderson would be included - it
is up to the Township to require it. He would rather have it done by private
contractors as it has to be approved by the Health Department and he will
add it in with Local Improvement No. 157.
PUBLIC SAFETY
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PUBLIC WORKS
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COMMITTEE REPORTS
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PARKS AND RECREATION
September 26, 1978
1. Mr. Blekum questioned where the money is to come from for the payment of
the Electrical work at the Croixwood Seventh Addition Park for this bid
awarded this evening.
He was informed that it could come out of the money that was received
from the sale of the property on Olive Street - the balance of this money
was used for the repair of the lights on the Staples Field Tennis Courts.
CITY ATTORNEY
1. Mr. Magnuson reported that Mr. Westphal as completed his fence right on Mr.
Vern Andrews property line - it is eight feet high and we actually have
no ordinance that applies directly to this fence - the question would be
whether it is a nuisance - that it is a reasonable interference with Mr.
Andrews and his neighbors because of the heighth - possible safety hazard
blocking out light and that sort of thing.
Mr. Magnuson stated that there is nothing in the Nuisance Ordinance
that would apply. It could be under the State Law or the Common Law -
an injunction to abate the nuisance - he didn't feel that he should charge
him with a crime which would be pretty strong.
On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick,
the City Attorney was directed to get an injunction against Mr. Ervin C.
Westphal, 1118 West Myrtle Street. (all in favor)
2. There was discussion on a 16 foot discrepancy by Victoria Villa and
Gaughan and Mr. Magnusoricated that this is a problem between two private
parties and there is nothing that the City can do in this matter.
Mr. Heitmiller should get an injunction against Mr. Gaughan.
Jeff Zoller felt that if there is a 16 foot discrepency it seems to him
that the Planning Commission and the Council should have the right to call
P. J. Gaughan back to reconsider this matter.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that the City has no way of knowing how is right.
MAYOR JUNKER asked that Mr. Magnuson contact Mr. Gaughan's attorney and tell
him that the City Council does not like the letter that the people received
on barracadirg this street and that possibly that his site plan was in error
that was presented to the City Council.
COUNCIL REQUEST ITEMS
1. COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK indicated that she had talked to Mr. Keller of the
Washington County Assessor's office and he explained the formula that they
use in assessing - $2.50 per parcel is what they charge for assessing pro-
perty and figuring the City's total number of parcels came up to the rate
that they are proposing to charge. Previously they were charging us $2.00
per parcel, but now we are paying the same rate as everyone else.
2. COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK stated that about two months ago we had a Joint
Powers request where the money that is collected for a dedicated park fund
from the Industrial Park area - they requested that the City put it in the
Escrow Park Fund to be used out there some where and the Council felt that
this was a reasonable request.
3. JEFF ZOLLER asked that the Council fill out their questionnaires on the
Master Plan and return same to him.
ORDINANCES
First reading - Prohibiting Liquor and Beer in Lowell and Washington Parks
RESOLUTIONS
The following resolutions were read and on roll call were unanimously adopted:
1. Directing the Payment of the Bills.
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2. Transfer of Croixwood Construction Funds (repass)
3. Transfer of MSA Funds (repass)
4. Accept Petition and Order Feasibility Study for Reliance Development
Interlachen Addition
5. Changing names of streets in the Stillwater Industrial Park
6. Re- designate State Aid Street - Orleans to 63rd
7. Re- designate State Aid Street - remove part of North Greeley
8. Re- designate State Aid Street - remove part of Orleans Street
9. Assessment Hearing for Local Improvement No. 129 -1
10. Advertise for Bids for Local Improvement No. 157 - Phase II for
the Stillwater Industrial Park
ADJOURNMENT
On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, the
meeting adjourned at 11:05 P. M.
Attest: .J _, � ,e �,
-J Acti Clerk
Mayor
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