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COUNCIL CHAMBER
Stillwater, Minnesota
September 5, 1978 7:30 P. M.
REGULAR MEETING
The meeting was called to order by President Junker.
The Invocation was given by the Acting City Clerk.
Present: Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
Absent: None
Also Present: Acting City Clerk, Schnell; City Attorney, Magnuson, Superinten-
dent of Public Works, Shelton; Public Safety Director, Abrahamson;
Director of Parks and Recreation, Blekum; Consulting Engineer,
Elliott; Building Inspector, Niska.
Press: Stillwater Evening Gazette - Bob Liberty
Free Press - Kevin Regan
Citizens: Anders Hansen (Baytown Township), Mr. & Mrs. Harold Howie,
Edward Deiss, Mr. & Mrs. Paul Wolf, Sharon Baker, Norman Webb, Jim
Gannon, Brad MacDonald, Norbert Riepe, Bruce Lorenz, Mrs. Hislop,
Ann Marlow, Tom Thoreson, Tom Weber, James Rosenwinkel, Mr. and
Mrs. Scott Johnson, Bud Kern, Jim Torseth
INDIVIDUALS- DELEGATIONS
1. ANDERS HANSEN, Chairman of Baytown Township, appeared before the City Council
regarding the cost of the lights which are proposed to be installed at Oakgreen
Avenue and Highway 212. The cost of this is $7,000 of which the State of Minne-
sota will pay $3,500 for these signs One- fourth of the remaining cost will be
paid by Washington County or $1,750 and the balance of $1,750 has been billed to
Baytown Township.
He asked that the $1,750 be split in thirds between Oak Park Heights, Baytown
and the City of Stillwater and the amount for each would be $583.33.
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney,
that the City sign an agreement with Baytown Township to share in the
cost of the traffic light at South Greeley, Oakgreen and Highway 212
not to exceed $583.33. (all in favor)
2. CAPTAIN GRIFFITH was scheduled to appear at this meeting, but he did not appear.
3. NORBERT RIEPE, 302 Edgewood Avenue, appeared before the City Council regarding
the Edgewood Ditch which was to have been completed in 1975 and he is still
waiting for the ditch to be finished.
JACK SHELTON stated that the City sent Orrin Thompson a letter at least five
months ago as to the things that he was to finish and there has been no answer
back from them. The City extended a pipe that ran off of Interlachen Drive and
they were suppose to come and finish that but it is still raw and it is really
a mess and the water stands there.
MR. RIEPE stated that they had a garden out there and because of the water the
misquotes are so bad that they cannot get out there and when they bought the
house they were told that there would be no standing water.
COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK indicated that she had taken a look at it and it is a real
mess and she asked if the City is still retaining any money on the Fifth Addition.
DUANE ELLIOTT recomended to the Council that they exercise any option that they
have under the current bond that they hold for the off -site improvements - these
relate to streets, boulevards, signs and t4is type of sodding for the ditches -
Dave Magnuson could call as to the City's intent to move forward using the bond
as an avenue to get the work done and try to setup a meeting within the next week
with Don Patton their engineer. There is a record that sodding was a part of the
requirement of the City.
On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman Peterson,
that the City Attorney be directed at least to send Mr. Thompson a
letter stating very strongly that if this is not reconciled shortly,
within 30 days, that some action will be moved ahead on the bond, and
we will do the work and they will pay for it. (all in favor)
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4. BRUCE LORENZ, representing N.U.S. Corporation appeared before the City
Council regarding the situation at Lily Lake - they are a qualified consulting
firm in this type of work and they are located in this area and they would be
happy to meet formally or informally concerning any restoration plans that
the City may have. He stated that there are several sources of available
funds and Federal matching funds for the state and local governments and felt
that these could be utilized to the fullest extent.
On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Peterson, that
NUS were directed to meet with the Public Works Director and Mr. Blekum
and look at the situation and communicate back and forth to get some
suggestions as to what might be done and get an estimated cost that
might be done to the area. (all in favor)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
- -- CONTINUED HEARINGS ON THE PROPOSED VACATIONS OF WEST ABBOTT AND SOUTH HARRIET
STREETS.
Lance Hisiop, Corner of Willard and Harriet Street, asked that Harriet Street
between Willard and Abbott be vacated.
THOMAS THORESON, 602 South Holcombe, requested that the east end of Abbott
Street be vacated from Holcome to Harriet.
Questions were raised about the lots that are in this ravine has not been
resolved - there is hold -up on the abstract and it should be straightened
out before they move any further. Mr. Strohkricht is proposhg to purchase
this property and sell same to Mr. Hislop and Mr. Weber.
MAYOR JUNKER asked if they could get an easement to drive -in to this
property and MR. MAGNUSON stated there is no provision for a special vacation
in that sense - if there is a sewer easement that could be retained.
MAYOR JUNKER indicated that if these two parties purchased these lots from
Mr. Strohkricht they would need an easement of twenty feet from Holcombe to
their property in order to get in there.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON questioned why they could not come in from Harriet Street
and MRS. HISLOP stated that the incline from Harriet Street is much greater
than Abbott Street.
ANN MARLOW, 702 South Holcombe, questioned why they could not get to this
property from the other end and that Abbott Street be vacated on the east end.
TOM WEBER, 613 West Willard Street, stated that he would be put in fill to
come from the west end of Abbott Street to this property and felt that he
could drive straight in from the east end, but it was stated by another
party that there is a twelve foot drop from the east end.
COUNCILMAN POWELL stated that when you vacate a street is gone from then
on and it is possible fifty years from now when you arBfliving there any
more somebody decides that there should be a street and if they need ingress
and egress from Holcombe . . .
ANN MARLOW :stated that they wanted it vacated and would like to clean it up
and if it is not vacated then the City or the owners back in the ravine
should clean it up - their property is on the line of the platted street and
if a dirt road was put in, then the need for vacation would be gone. The
street has not been used for the past fifty years.
MRS. HISLOP stated they could not vacate it since they would be land - locked.
MAYOR JUNKER asked Mr. Magnuson if the City maintained both of the streets and
gave the people a twenty foot easement or we kept a twenty foot easement on
Abbott Street and let the people clean it up would be any problem with that.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that you could not do that - if the street is vacated the
City no longer has interest - do not need an easement.
Questions were raised if someone wishes to build a garage over this street
and he was gold he could get a variance, but he would have to stay off the
street right -of -way.
Statements were made that these lots were not going to be developed at the
last meeting when this matter was heard and questions were raised as to what
the need would be for an access to these lots.
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MR. HISLOP stated that he would like to get down in there to clean up this
property as it looks like City Dump and he was told he could drive down that
street as it is if he could get down. Questions were raised about the main-
tenance of the property which the owners are maintaining now.
Questions were raised about the telephone poles and trees that are located in
the area and the grades of all of these streets. Abbott Street off Holcombe
could be a gravel road the same as Harriet just off Churchill, and this would
be used to get to this property in the ravine.
COUNCILMAN POWELL asked when we put in a gravel street or some kind of dirt
road with some rock it has been the City's polich to assess for that and MR.
SHELTON did notl?lieve that we have done this in the past.
Questions were raised by both parties as to the fact that they can walk to
their backyards, but are unable to get to them with motor vehicles.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON asked if Abbott Street were vacated without any reser-
vation for an easement in there, then the property would go to each property
owner and at that point and time the property owners could resolve to put
their own driveway down there - they could use that as their own personal
driveway or access because it would be put on their property and that would
resolve any problems as far an access or roadway is concerned - a couple of
weeks ago these people did not care if the property was land - locked or not.
MRS. HISLOP stated that possibly fifty years from now somebody would want to
build there and they now want to clean it up.
ANN MARLOW asked what they would have to do to get this easement and she was
told they would have to have an agreement which would be recorded with their
property deed.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that it is a legal agreement in the nature of a deed where
you convey an easement across your property to someone else and it provides
the terms under which they can use the property and it provides that it lasts
forever binds the land and you have to pay a lawyer to do that. The cost could
be $25.00 to $50.00 to do that.
MRS. HISLOP presented a signed statement from Mr. Lueken in which he agreed to
the vacation of Harriet Street from Willard to Abbott, and does not include
the intersection.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON felt it would be up to the property owners to arrange their
own easements and the City vacate the street.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that once it is vacated it is vacated forever and the parties
could get to squabbling with the terms of the easement and the party who lost his
access is going to have a lot to complain about - it is conceivable that we could
vacate and an easement would never take place and the property would be land-
locked and the City would be subject to a lawsuit. The City should not take any
action until all the problems are resolved between the property owners including
the easements and the Council should see the easements before the vote is taken
on the vacation.
The hearing was closed at 8:20 P. M.
On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Powell,
the Council agreed to vacate South Harriet Street from West Willard
to West Abbott and West Abbott Street from South Holcombe to South
Harriet Street as soon as all of the easements are in order.
AYES -- Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell and Mayor Junker
NAYS -- Councilwoman Bodlovick (motion carried)
COUNCILWOMAN BODLOVICK felt that we are going to end up with trouble as this
matter has been going on for a long time, and there could be some building
activity on that one side and if they had an easement, would that constitute
a street for buildable lots.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that it provides in the sub - division code that a lot have
frontage on an improved public street before it is buildable and if these people
on the back lots had only a twenty foct easement or driveway they would not be
allosed to build on them.
The Council agreed that they should be told that right now that the lots would
not be buildable without frontage on an improve street. The property owners
know what the problems are and they can work it out.
MR. MAGNUSON said that from the legal point of view the vacation of a street is
something under which your discussion is very severely limited and it shall be
absolutely clear not only the property owners, but the public in general and
all streets are held in trust forever and he felt before one is ever vacated
it should be absolutely clear to the Council that no problems are very going
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arise from the vacation of that street.
2. This is the day and time set for the public hearing on the proposed variance
to Ordinance No. 479 - Scottland, Inc., Croixwood Blvd. and County Road No. 5.
No one from Scottland appeared - they withdrew their request.
MR. MAGNUSON reported that MR. Eastlund called him this afternoon and stated
that the restrictions that the neighbors wanted on the property - that is no
dry cleaning store, no liquor store were not something that the mortgage
company would go along with and they would not grant the mortgage with those
sort of restrictions on the property - Scottland is unable to find financing
for their proposal, so therefore, they were forced to withdraw it.
They have also renewed their building permit on the building for which
they have approval, so he assumed that they would be going ahead with that -
the smaller unit.
A CITIZEN from Croixwood asked if the neighbors were unreasonable and the
Council agreed that we do not need a neighborhood liquor store. The neighbors
wanted to be on record as being here and standing in the position they have
always been in the past and they are still opposed to these businesses.
THE MAYOR DECLARED A RECESS FROM 8:35 P. M. to 8:35 P. M.
3. This was the day and time for the public hearing on the construction of a
six inch watermain and eight inch sanitary sewer main in South Harriet Street -
North of Pine Street.
Notice of the hearing was published on August 22, and 29, 1978 and copies
were mailed to all potential benefited property owners.
The Mayor opened the hearing.
DUANE ELLIOTT explained the proposed project which is requested for a duplex
on the north end of this street. In existence on that street today is a
private watermain which is 3/4" galvanized constructed in 1910 to 1931 - there
is no public sanitary sewer either - there is a private sewer in two different
locations and the City has been unable to find the manhole which is suppose to
be in that portion of the street. There formerly was a dwelling on this
property and the sewer could have been connected to one of these private lines.
The builder has not investigated to see wherher or not that service can be
located. He was proposing a six inch watermain and the sewer would run from
the manhole and run in a northerly direction and the properties to be serviced
would be the seven on the east and west side and the two other properties are
serviced from the lines on Pine Street, and another parcel is serviced off a
line on Oak Street.
The proposed watermain is in keeping with the past City practices with
respect to the street improvement wherein private water services especially
of the age this one is abandoned and a City main put in which provides the
additional diameter for fire protection.
The sanitary sewer remains to be a question - there are two private lines
in there constructed years ago and there has not been a maintenance problem
according to Jack Shelton - no calls in that area and if the service can be
found on this property possibly it could be used. The City Attorney would
have to rule as to whether or not this party would be allowed to hook into
this private line.
The estimated cost of the total improvement is $29,400 - $13,000 for sewer
and $16,000 for the watermains.
JAMES ROSENWINKEL, 414 South Harriet Street, spoke in behalf of the residents
who live on South Harriet. He asked if the street is zoned "duplex" or single
family and MR. NISKA stated that it is zonzed two - family homes.
He questioned why at this time would there be a question as to whether
or not there is adequate services for a duplex and felt that this is some-
thing that should have been questioned prior to the area becoming duplexed
originally. When was this done?
MR. NISKA - In 1963 when the City drew up the Zoning Ordinance - at that time
the City was divided up into area zones.
MR. ROSENWINKEL questioned why this was not considered earlier when some of
the other homes were duplexed in the area.
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arise from the vacation of that street.
2. This is the day and time set for the public hearing on the proposed variance
to Ordinance No. 479 - Scottland, Inc., Croixwood Blvd. and County Road No. 5.
No one from Scottland appeared - they withdrew their request.
MR. MAGNUSON reported that MR. Eastlund called him this afternoon and stated
that the restrictions that the neighbors wanted on the property - that is no
dry cleaning store, no liquor store were not something that the mortgage
company would go along with and they would not grant the mortgage with those
sort of restrictions on the property - Scottland is unable to find financing
for their proposal, so therefore, they were forced to withdraw it.
They have also renewed their building permit on the building for which
they have approval, so he assumed that they would be going ahead with that -
the smaller unit.
A CITIZEN from Croixwood asked if the neighbors were unreasonable and the
Council agreed that we do not need a neighborhood liquor store. The neighbors
wanted to be on record as being here and standing in the position they have
always been in the past and they are still opposed to these businesses.
THE MAYOR DECLARED A RECESS FROM 8:35 P. M. to 8:35 P. M.
3. This was the day and time for the public hearing on the construction of a
six inch watermain and eight inch sanitary sewer main in South Harriet Street -
North of Pine Street.
Notice of the hearing was published on August 22, and 29, 1978 and copies
were mailed to all potential benefited property owners.
The Mayor opened the hearing.
DUANE ELLIOTT explained the proposed project which is requested for a duplex
on the north end of this street. In existence on that street today is a
private watermain which is 3/4" galvanized constructed in 1910 to 1931 - there
is no public sanitary sewer either - there is a private sewer in two different
locations and the City has been unable to find the manhole which is suppose to
be in that portion of the street. There formerly was a dwelling on this
property and the sewer could have been connected to one of these private lines.
The builder has not investigated to see wherher or not that service can be
located. He was proposing a six inch watermain and the sewer would run from
the manhole and run in a northerly direction and the properties to be serviced
would be the seven on the east and west side and the two other properties are
serviced from the lines on Pine Street, and another parcel is serviced off a
line on Oak Street.
The proposed watermain is in keeping with the past City practices with
respect to the street improvement wherein private water services especially
of the age this one is abandoned and a City main put in which provides the
additional diameter for fire protection.
The sanitary sewer remains to be a question - there are two private lines
in there constructed years ago and there has not been a maintenance problem
according to Jack Shelton - no calls in that area and if the service can be
found on this property possibly it could be used. The City Attorney would
have to rule as to whether or not this party would be allowed to hook into
this private line.
The estimated cost of the total improvement is $29,400 - $13,000 for sewer
and $16,000 for the watermains.
JAMES ROSENWINKEL, 414 South Harriet Street, spoke in behalf of the residents
who live on South Harriet. He asked if the street is zoned "duplex" or single
family and MR. NISKA stated that it is zonzed two - family homes.
He questioned why at this time would there be a question as to whether
or not there is adequate services for a duplex and felt that this is some -
ding that should have been questioned prior to the area becoming duplexed
originally. When was this done?
MR. NISKA - In 1963 when the City drew up the Zoning Ordinance - at that time
the City was divided up into area zones.
MR. ROSENWINKEL questioned why this was not considered earlier when some of
the other homes were duplexed in the area.
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COUNCILNAN PETERSON - some years ago the City instituted a policy where there
would be no more of what they called "private lines" run such as in this area
and at the time those were put in 1911 or 1913 it was just to expedite the
matter and they put them in themselves and until the request came for the sewer
and water for this proposed duplex, there hadn't been a request. No private
lines are being constructed.
MRS.HAROLD HOWIE, 417 South Harriet Street, stated there are no problems on
Lot 11 - and this property owner has come in and bdldozed down the trees, and
graded the property and madeit a public nuisance.
MR. PAUL WOLFF, 520 West Pine Street,
this proposed improvement. There are
system. There is a shut -off valve on
this street have not had problems why
already there and wait until there is
expended.
stated that he would not be affected by
five homes presently hooked up to this
the one driveway and if the people on
can't they hookup to the line that is
a demonstrated need before that money is
EDWARD DEISS - stated that he did not want to build a dwelling that is going to
have problems with this type of things - according to his deed he can hookup
to the water line from one of the owners, but he was told that it would not be
sufficient.
MR. ELLIOTT was questioned whether or not there was sewer to this property and
he was not sure about this and MR. SHELTON had contacted the developer to dig
a trench to possible location and he has not done that. There is a private
sewer line at the manhole and he felt that it was a legal question as to
whether or not this party could connect to this line.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that the City would have to see what sort of an agreement
there was in the first place between all the owners to share the use of it and
also how old it is - whether any of these documents have been recorded and if
there is no evidence there he would be of the opinion since it is a public
street and it is located in there and it is so old that no one knows that the
City really owns the thing and he could hook up to it. There would have to
be some questions answered before we could decide that.
MRS. HOWIE questioned why we have to have a duplex here - why not a single
family home?
MR. MAGNUSON stated that when the Zoning Ordinance was adopted in 1963 practically
the whole City was zoned "duplex" - just a blanket zoning since there were so
many old houses and large houses that were being converted and they felt it wise
to just establish that district for the whole City.
MR. SHELTON stated that everything that came in after 1963 is single family and
that is all the new developments, but the major part that was not "Industrial"
or "Commercial" was zoned Two- Family ".
MARY WOLFF, 520 West Pine Street, said five homes have been serviced by the one
water line and they seem to be getting along fine and they have no problems -
the problem seems to be with the proposed duplex, that there would not be enough
water for themselves and felt they should take care of themselves and why the
other people should have to pay for their water problems.
COUNCILMAN POWELL - the people who put the system in the first place without
contributing anything to the City water system - they did not pay anything for
hydrants - they just hooked on - their own contractor put it in and covered it
up and put in the meter - the thing is in time this is going to have to be
changed - whether it is today or tomorrow or next year, that system will be
bad as galvanized iron doesn't last that long and it is proper to have a hydrant
at the dead -end of Harriet Street and that cannot be put in with a one inch
line. By doing it now it certainly would be cheaper than it would be in ten
years.
MR. ROSENWINKEL stated that there are a number of retired people living on this
street and that this would be a tremendous burden if the need was not here to
be hooked up.
MAYOR JUNKER asked about the number of years that it could be assessed and MR.
ELLIOTT stated that it could go to fifteen years. He hoped that the 25th of
December that the water pipe doesn't break and all of these homes would be with-
out water and that has happened in Stillwater - more and more holes are being
dug for new copper lines and they are really bad. This would be 65 years old
and he put in one last week that was 80 feet long and most of it fell apart -
rather than look at the expense you are better off to do it now rather than wait
two or five years - he was afraid that their water is not going to last that
long.
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COUNCILMAN POWELL suggested that the watermain was put in and the sewer
line was not, then you are talking about $16,000 divided among five homes
or six homes about $2,000 for each property and Mr. Deiss could connect to the
other sewer line - he has to be in one of these lines.
HAROLD HOWIE questioned how deep that lot has to be - he measured from his
fence line for the excavation and he stated that they had been tL,ire several
times to see if they had it surveyed.
MAYOR JUNKER stated that if they don't want to pay for that all the Council
can do is to allow Mr. Deiss to hookup to it.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON stated that some time and place along the line those
private lines are going to have to be replaced and then what happens - require
the developer to put in the water line himself as the Mayor suggested.
MA Y O Rh tINKER stated that he can hook it into the curb -stop - one is there now
part of that and MRS. HOWIE stated that water line comes through their
driveway and cuts across the other property and the shut -off is in the drive-
way.
Questions were raised why this was not put in when the big project was done
and MR. ELLIOTT stated that it was not included in the street program, other-
wise it would have been done.
JAN JOHNSON, 416 South Harriet Street, asked if the water line breaks in
three or four years, how much would it be and she was informed that it would
be somewhat higher, but would not double - she was willing to take a chance
on the breakage and replacement at that time.
EDWARD DEISS - they bought the property and it was zoned duplex - they paid
the two SAC charges, sewer connection charges and the building permit and
thought all was in order until he did some checking that this was a private
and
went to
as the pipe crumbled 5- the
inyMay tornJuneetheyddug of val
the
hole and they have been dragging along all summer and they thought they had
sewer and water since they paid all the charges. They don't feel that the
one inch galvanized is going to take care of this property. He does not
want to build anything that there is going to be trouble later on - should
be done right. The property will be surveyed next Monday.
MR. SCOT1 JOHNSON, 416 South Harriet Street, questioned the payment for same
as they are all elderly citizens and young couples that do not have the
money for this work. They are willing to take their chances.
Questions were raised about the location of the hydrant and it was shown on
the west side of the street. He stated that the Water Department records are
excellent - more than likely the cost figures from 1911 are still available.
MR. ELLIOTT stated that the Council could initiate an improvement such as
this as well as a petition - the other option would be the first time that
there is a water break the City could request a water improvement for this
street. This is a small project to be let by itself and it could be tied
in with the project for Phase II of the Stillwater Industrial Park.
MR. DEISS stated that he would like to drop the sewer from the petition - he
felt that he has to have the water. He felt that the had property rights
and he owns the property.
A petition was presented from the property owners being opposed
to this improvement.
SCOTT JOHNSON asked if they have to vote in this matter and he was informed
that the Council holds the hearing so that they get the property owners input
into it and then they would have seven families on this line and there is going
to be considerable drain.
Questions were raised about the size of the lot and they were informed that
it has to be 7,500 square feet and the plat map shows that it is 150 x 75 feet.
Further questions were raised about the off - street parking and MR. NISKA
stated that he had the proper square footage and off - street parking.
The Mayor closed the hearing.
On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman
Peterson, that the improvement not be ordered at this time - not to
require water or sewer at this time.
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AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilman Peterson and Mayor Junker
NAYS -- Councilmen Mahoney and Powell (motion carried)
4. This is the day and time for the public hearing on the proposed second reading
of an Ordinance establishing a storm sewer improvement district in the con-
tributory drahage area of the Industrial Park, Stillwater, Minnesota.
Notice of the hearing was published on August 18, and 25, 1978 and copies
were mailed to all benefited property owners.
On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Powell, the
Clerk made the second reading of an ordinance entitled "AN ORDINANCE
OF THE CITY OF STILLWATER ESTABLISHING A STORM SEWER IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT
IN THE CONTRIBUTORY DRAINAGE AREA OF THE INDUSTRIAL PARK, STILLWATER,
MINNESOTA ". (all in favor)
The ordinance was read section by section followed by roll call after each
section and all members of the Council voted in the affirmative.
The Mayor opened the hearing
BUD KERN asked how the boundaries were determined for this project?
MR. ELLIOTT stated that the water from the Benson farm will be discharged out
to the North ultimately get to chis district - basically the district is estab-
lished by the streets and the natural typography - there are 233 acres in Bay-
town that are also tributory, at least a portion of the _system that would he
developed to the Croixgate Property and that culvert that crosses Trunk Hy. 212
and the drainage under County 5 - it is recommended on the report on Phase II
of the Industrial Park that this area not be included in the district of the
other commuaities in the T- wnship, but rather only that drainage which is
currently tributory under the highway and the 24 inch culvert be accepted and
that a detention basin in the future would have to be required if this land
were urbanized rather than its current agricultural state. This basin would
require 46 acres one foot deep and four feet deep would take ten acres of land/
That district to the south could stand on its own.
This would require a joint hearing for the improvements in that area which
would include storm sewers in other areas. The area is there but very little
of the storm water would be contributory to the area being developed under
this ordinance.
The Engineer from Baytown attended a meeting here - information for Baytown,
but he saw no reason that they seek participation at this time - at least they
have been informed.
MAYOR JUNKER felt that if we are taking water from Baytown Township then they
should be participating in these costs.
MR. MAGNUSON stated that from a legal standpoint there is no way we can assess
property in another community unless they would participate and agree to have
a joint improvement project. They are essentially involved in two ways - if
they would cooperate in this project and have that property assessed - the
second is when the development of that property in Baytown takes place we will
be able to limit the amount of runoff that comes into our area and we will
have to do that by requiring holding ponds on their side and they will probably
wait until they are forced to do that.
BUD KERN asked about the cost of the project - what is involveti? What has to be done
with the area outlined in "red "?
MR. ELLIOTT stated that it would not be the total system - the platting has been
changed and this is a preliminary system prepared by Don Rippel.
MR. MAGNUSON stated the ordinance provides that the storm sewer improvements can
be handled under this ordinance in separate projects and don't have to be handled
in connection with a lot of other projects - keep the storm separate so that can
be taxed just on the people who contribute drainage. This ordinance be adopted
tonite and it might never be used - it gives the City the opportunity to use it
if they feel they need to use it.
M.R. ELLIOTT stated that there would be a number of assessments against a piece of
property and it could go ahead in three or five states and there would be three
or five assessments.
BUD KERN asked how much would be built on - COUNCILMAN MAHONEY stated that basically
the storm sewer for the whole area is proposed at this time for any of the con-
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MR. ELLIOTT said that when Orleans Street goes ahead to the north, there
would have to be a half of that street dedicated and the assessment be
spread on an area basis.
JIM TORESETH inquired about the assessments and MR. ELLIOTT stated this will
come out in the hearing on Local Improvement No. 157. The only areas that
will be assessed for the storm sewer would be those outlined in "red" and
that could be a number of assessments.
The Mayor closed the hearing.
The chair then put the questions, "Shall this ordinance pass ?" and on
roll call the ordinance was unanimously adopted.
5. This was the day and time for the public hearing on the proposed improvements
for the Stillwater Industrial Park.
Notice of the hearing was published in the Stillwater Gazette, the
official newspaper of the City, on August 18 and 25, 1978 and copies were
mailed to all benefited property owners.
The Mayor opened the hearing.
MR. ELLIOTT explained the proposed improvements for streets and utilities -
petitions for Noxell Avenue from Trunk Highway 212 up to 63rd - 62nd Street
from Noxell to Novak and then 63rd Street from Norell to Novak. Abutting the
property is the Feely property which is Green Acres and cannot be assessed at
this time.
All of the utilities within the shaded streets on the map are sanitary
sewer and to connect with the sewer trunk line constructed under Local Improve-
ment No. 129 -1, watermain throughout the entire area (12 inches in diameter
with a 16 inch on 62nd Street from the well and tank site) that will be
carried in a westerly direction.
The storm sewer proposed to drain southerly and westerly with a discharge
at this ie in the state trunk highway ditch. A detention pond is required -
an 11 ,flre nond and a second pond and the engineer for Land Tech requested in
anruher 1 ration and this will meet the criteria. Portions of several lots
will .lave to be deeded to the City or that pond.
The street improvements will be 44 feet in width on 62nd Street, Novak
Avenue from 62nd to 63rd - all of the other streets, east -west streets and
North -south streets, with a 16 foot raised media two lanes in each direction -
raised islands permit the installation of left turn lanes where necessary of
business development -- higher cost for the extra curbs. Additional rights -
of -way were platted in both locations to a 80 foot width. 63rd Street is a
Municipal State Aid Street from County 5 to County 66 - its full length.
The estimated cost of the improvement for the storm sewer facilities -
$297,570; storm water detention basins - grading and seeding of the ponds only
assuming that the land is donated by the developer - $320,570; sanitary sewer -
$90,110; watermains - $174,700; street construction - $461,470. Total
improvement - $1,046,850.00 which includes the 10% contingency and the 15%
for engineering, legal and administrative costs.
There will be no services to the property lines as of this time the
location of the buildings is unknown.
Assessments to be spread on an area basis - acreage basis - 61 acres within
the area which was outlined for the street and utility assessments. Sanitary
sewer - $1,480 per acre; watermains-- $2,860; Street construction - $7,565
per acre; storm sewer - the cost to be spread for the entire area with the
"red" area - 236 acres which results in a storm sewer cost of $1,700 per acre.
An item which is a Council option with respect to street constriction, the
✓ street costs for Phase I, $3,600 per acre and in the light of the fact that this
is a Municipal State Aid Street, the $7,560 street cost can be reduced down by
$3,600 per acre.
If Norell Avenue from 63rd Street to Trunk Highway 212 frontage road were
designated Municipal State Aid, then the Municipal Aid Street Funds could be
used for this work. In order to use these funds to the extent that he had
stated it would require that this also be designated as a Municipal State Aid
Street.
MR. MAGNUSON indicated that he read in the League magazine that a developer
was required to dedicate large thoroughfares that were not really for his
benefit and the Supreme Court held that the City could not require dedication
of more than what they needed for its purposes and this would be a point for
the justification of using Municipal State monies for this purpose.
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Questions were -raised as to the construction of Northwestern
street is 44 feet wide and the cost will be about the same as
Street when the State Aid credit is used in calculating these
sewers will not be stubbed in, but they will be a part of the
costs. Mr. Elliott stated that the location of the Cub Store
changed from north of the bank building to another location.
63rd Street from Norell to Novak is 1,700 feet.
COUNCILMAN PETERSON asked what the full length of 63rd Street would be so that
the City can continue to construct this road with the aid of State Aid funds
and Mr. Elliott stated that the City accrues about $80,000 per year for this
fund.
Mr. Elliott stated that he has a letter from the State indicating that the
City develop a five year plan for the expending of State Aid money, so there
should not be a problem in completing this street under this program - current
balance is $414,000.00.
JIM TORSETH stated any assessments against this property which are necessary to
make this property marketable will have to be passed along to the potential
purchasers of the property - industrial property like this, the potential
purchasers are going to come from outside of the St. Croix Valley probably and
they will be competing with the market of the Metropolitan area - the future
potential for the area is new factories being built, which pay real estate
taxes and employ people and anything that can help make that property more
marketable from a cost standpoint of the industrial market will help them in
the sale of this property.
The Mayor closed the hearing
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney,
a resolution was introduced "DESIGNATING NOtELL AVENUE ( Washington
(Avenue) FROM TRUNK HIGH 212 TO 63RD STREET AS A STATE AID HIGHWAY
AS A MUNICIPAL STATE HIGHWAY ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney,
a resolution was introduced "ORDERING THE IMPROVEMENT FOR LOCAL
IMPROVEMENT NO. 157 AND DIRECTING THE ENGINEER TO COMPLETE THE FINAL
PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS.
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS- -None (see resolutions)
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
1. The Council agreed to interview the following applicants for the position
of Finance Director, as recommended by the Administrative Committee,
starting at 4:30 P. M. - September 8, 1978 - 20 minutes for each applicant:
Nile Kriesel
John Collins
Steven Ulrich
2. The Acting City Clerk was directed to setup a meeting with Mr. Burns
regarding the fees that the County is proposing to charge the City for
this work for 1979.
3. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, a
resolution was introduced "SETTING THE SALARY FOR THE JUNIOR BOOKKEEPING
CLERK AT $650.00 EFFECTIVE AUGUST 16, 1979 AND THAT SHE WOULD MOVE TO THE
TWO YEAR LEVEL ON February 16, 1979"
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell and
Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
NEW BUSINESS
1. The Council set the date of September 13, 1978 at 6:30 P. M. for a meeting
with the business agent for Local No 49 and at 7:30 P. M. with Local No. 91.
2. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded
set the date of September 26, 1978 at 7
on the following cases from the Planning
Septesber 5, 1978 •
Avenue - this
the State Aid
costs. The
contingency
has been
The length of
by Councilman Powell, the Council
30 P. M. for the public hearings
Commission:
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Case No. 279 - Greeley Nursing Home - Special Use Permit
Case No. 324 - Swager's Re- subdivision on Meadowlark Drive
Case No. 336 - Ronald E. Kranz - Special Use Permit - Chiropractic Office
Case No. 337 - Rod Lawson - Variance for a deck
Case No. 338 - Rockwell Hoffman, 1704 West Oak Street - variance for a
garage
Case No. 339 - Rose Morgan, 908 South Sixth Street - variance for a garage
Case No. 340 - John K. Ogren, 103 North Main Street - Special Use Permit -
new station
Case No. 334 - Reliance Development Co. - Preliminary Plat
(all in favor)
3. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, a
resolution was introduced "DIRECTING THE PAYMENT OF THE BILLS ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
4. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Peterson, a
resolution was introduced "AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF VARIOUS FUNDS ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
5. On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, a
resolution was introduced "AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF $115,886 FROM
THE CROIXWOOD CONSTRUCTION FUND ACCOUNT TO THE IMPROVEMENT BOND
ACCOUNT ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
6. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick,
a resolution was introduced "AUTHORIZING THE TRANSFER OF $8,388 BALANCE
IN THE MSA Construction Account to the Improvement Bond Account ".
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS- -None (see resolutions)
INDIVIDUALS - DELEGATIONS - continued
None at this point in the meeting
Porter- Marty, Inc.
324 South Third Street, Stillwater
APPLICATIONS
On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Peterson, the following
Contractor's Licenses were approved: (all in favor)
Bruette Roofing - Harlan Bruette
8510 DeMontreville Trail, Lake Elmo, Mn. 55042 Roofing Renewal
Fred Deutsch - D & D Cement & Masonry
635 W. Shryer Ave. & 824 West Grandview Avenue
St. Paul, Mn. 55113 Masonry & Brick Work Renewal
General Renewal
Wallmaster, Inc.
1141 West Montana, St. Paul, Mn. 55108 Siding and Home Improvements Renewal
- - - -On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman Peterson, 3.2
On and Off Sale Beer Licenses were granted to J. Lamont Brine, 219 South
Main Street, Stillwater. (all in favor)
- - - -On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, the Council
authorized the transfer of an "Off Sale Liquor License" from September 1, 1978
to December 31, 1978 from William Kinsel to Kinsel's, Inc., Second and
Chestnut Street, Stillwater. (all in favor)
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COMMUNICATIONS
From the Washington County Planning Advisory Commission regarding mini -
planning conference - no action.
From the Metro Council - Guidelines for Ranking Applications for Areawide
Bonus Funds. (No action)
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0 1. On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, the
Council directed that the claim from Mrs. Terry Needham for medical
expenses for her son Jason, who was hurt at Pioneer Park, be sent to
the McGarry- Kearney Insurance Agency. (all in favor)
2. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick,
the City Clerk's office was authorized to contact Bob Voto of DeLaHunt
to assist them in the preparation of the Tax Lexy for 1979.
(all in favor)
3. On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman Powell, a
resolution was introduced "AMENDING RESOLUTION N0. 6534 - CHANGES IN
ELECTION JUDGES FOR THE PRIMARY AND GENERAL ELECTIONS."
AYES -- Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell
and Mayor Junker
NAYS - -None (see resolutions)
4. The Acting City Clerk informed.rthe Council of the levy limitation for
the Public Library - it cannot go below $85,000.
CONSULTING ENGINEER'S REPORT
None at this point in the meeting
PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE REPORTS
1. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, the Council
directed the Acting City Clerk to advertise for bids for a re- inforced
concrete wall for the replacement of the Olive Street Parking Lot Wall, said
bids to be returnable at 3:00 P. M., October 10, 1978. (Local Improvement
No. 165) (all in favor)
2. Mr. Shelton is working on the naming of the streets in the Stillwater
Industrial Park and the City Attorney will secure a copy of the plat map
so that this work can be completed.
PUBLIC SAFETY
1. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Powell, the
Council authorized the discharging of cannons for the Grand Opening
of the Northwestern Bank on September 8 and 9, 1978.
(all in favor)
2. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Peterson, a Dance
Permit was granted to the Stillwater Fire Relief Assocation for their
dance at the Armory on September 9, 1978. (all in favor)
3. On motion of Councilwoman Bodlovick, seconded by Councilman Peterson, a
resolution was introduced "PROMOTING TIMOTHY BELL OF THE VOLUNTEER FIRE
DEPARTMENT FROM ENGINEER TO CAPTAIN ".
AYES - - Councilwoman Bodlovick, Councilmen Mahoney, Peterson, Powell and
NAYS- -None Mayor Junker
(see resolutions)
4. On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilman Peterson, the
Clerk made the first reading of an ordinance by title entitled "AN
ORDINANCE PROHIBITING CONSUMPTION AND POSSESION OF INTOXICATING LIQUOR
AND NON - INTOXICATING MALT LIQUOR IN LOWELL PARK AND WASHINGTON PARK AND
ESTABLISHING A CURFEW IN PARKS WITHIN THE CITY ".
(all in favor)
5. Mayor Junker indicated that he had received quotes and other information
for the sound-proofing of the dog pound - the quote received was for
$1,628.00 for materials for this project.
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6. Chief Abrahamson presented to the Council members information on an
extractor to cut cars in more serious accidents, the cost of which would
be $5,400 - they are going to try to get matching funds from the State -
put in the Fire Department budget for next year - recommend that the
Council see fit to order it now - takes two months for delivery.
Questions were raised as to whether the County has one of these, but
Chief Abrahamson stated that they do not have a Rescue Squad and they
do not have the personnel that he is aware of to do this work.
Chief Abrahamson was directed to check out funding on this piece
of equipment and come back with figures.
PARKS AND RECREATION
1. On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney, the
Mayor was directed to send a request to the Margaret Rivers Foundation
for a donation of $25,000 for the construction of tennis courts at the
Croixwood Seventh Addition Park. (all in favor)
2. On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick,
Mr. Blekum was directed to send out the specs and advertise for bids
for the electrical work at the Croixwood Seventh Addition Park with
bids returnable by 7:30 P. M., September 26, 1978. (all in favor)
3. Mr. Blekum cited the figures for the improvements in this park and the
funds that are to be available for such improvements and the work that
had been done. Out of the original $25,000, he still has $8,290 which
will be used up on the incidentals and they are going ahead with the
excavatir; of the roadway and tennis courts so that they can put the
Class 5 tall in with the use of the street department crew and then
they can put in the irrigation system which they already have.
4. Mr. Blkum again brought up the matter of classifications of the various
people in his department and there are two courses being offered by
916 V. T. - one on small engine repair and the other on basic horticulture.
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney,
the Council authorized the expenditure of $54.00 so that two men from the
Parks Department can attend the above classes. (all in favor)
ADMINISTRATIVE COMMITTEE
No report
September 5, 1978
CITY ATTORNEY'S REPORT
1. Vern Andrews has discussed with the City Attorney the fact that his
neighbor is building a great big fence, an ugly one in his backyard,
and the Zoning Ordinance does not provide for any fence control - we
would have to look to the Nuisance Ordinance and stretch it to provide
him any relief.
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilman Mahoney,
the Clerk made the first reading by title of an ordinance entitled
"AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 384, THE ZONING ORDINANCE, BY
PROVIDING FOR THE REGULATION OF THE CONSTRUCTION, PLACEMENT, HEIGHT,
NATURE AND EXTENT OF FENCES ". (all in favor)
COUNCILMAN POWELL moved that the City Attorney or the Acting City Clerk
send a letter to the party in question and inform him that they should
stop construction of the fence until they meet with the Planning
Commission. (no second - motion declared dead)
On motion of Councilman Peterson, seconded by Councilwoman
Bodlovick, the City Attorney was instructed to take whatever action
action is necessary under the Nuisance Ordinance to control or
eliminate the construction of this fence in question. (all in favor)
APPROVAL OF MINUTES -
On motion of Councilman Mahoney, seconded by Councilman Powell, minutes of the
followbg meetings were approved:
August I, 1978 Regular Meeting 7:30 P. M.
August 16, 1978 Special Meeting 7:00 P. M.
August 22. 1978 Regular Meeting 7:30 P. M.
August 28, 1978 Special Meeting 8:00 P. M.
(all in favor)
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COUNCIL REOUEST ITEMS
COUNCILMAN PETERSON asked what was happening on the Nelson School Project
and the City Attorney advised that he sent Mr. Welch a letter after the
first meeting in August and gave him thirty days to either close the deal
or release the City from the deal and he has had no reply to date and he
should know within a few days.
MAYOR JUNKER gave a bill for the removal of a diseased elm tree for Clara
Raduenz to Mr. Shelton to check same out.
QUESTIONS FROM PRESS REPRESENTATIVES_
None
September 5, 1978
ORDINANCES
First Reading - Prohibiting Consumption of Liquor and Beer in Lowell and
Washington Parks
- Fence Ordinance
Second Reading - Storm Sewer Drainage District - Stillwater Industrial Park
RESOLUTIONS
The following resolutions were read and on roll call were unanimously
adopted:
1.* Designating Norell Avenue (Washington Avenue) as a Municipal State Aid
Street.
2. Ordering the Improvement for Local Improvement No. 157 =—Phase II
Stillwater Industrial Park
3. ** Salary for Junior Bookkeeping Clerk - Luana Kuehn
4. Directing the Payment of the Bills
5. Authorizing the Transfer of Various Funds
+6.* Transfer of $115,886 from the Croixwood Construction Fund Account to
the Improvement Bond Account
+7.* Transfer of $8,388 balance in the MSA Construction Account to the Improve-
ment Bond Account.
8. Promotion of Tim Bell to Captain - Volunteer Fire Department
9. Election Judge Changes - Amend Resolution No. 6534
* Not Published in the required time - repassed September 13, 1978
+* Not published in required time - repassed September 26, 1978
** Lost at the Gazette - repassed - September 13, 1978
An;OURNMENT
On motion of Councilman Powell, seconded by Councilwoman Bodlovick, the
meeting adjourned at 11:00 P. M.
Attest: , - /1.. /. %
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