HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-02-09 HPC MINCity of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
February 2, 2009
Present: Howard Lieberman, Chairperson, Micky Cook, Phil Eastwood, Jeff Johnson, Jerry
Krakowski, Roger Tomten and Scott Zahren
Staff present: Community Development Director Bill Turnblad
Absent: Gayle Hudak
Mr. Lieberman called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Zahren, moved approval of the minutes of
Jen. 5, 2009. Motion passed unanimously.
OPEN FORUM
Mr. Lieberman invited any comments from the public. No comments were received.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. DR /09 -05 A neighborhood conservation district design review for new construction at
702 W. Churchill St. in the RB, Two Family Residential District. HAF Architects, Michael Moon,
applicant.
Michael Hoefler of HAF Architects was present. He showed photos of the streetscape and
neighboring buildings, the proposed elevations of the new structure, and other projects and infill
projects in the area. He stated the design picks up the "vocabulary" — narrow lap siding, double -
hung windows, front porch and other Victorian features — from other homes in the immediate
area.
In response to a letter in the agenda packet, Mr. Johnson asked Mr. Hoefler to clarify whether
the new structure will be a single - family home or duplex. Mr. Hoefler said it will be a single -
family residence. Mr. Johnson noted as proposed, there will be no changes to the grading or
footprint of the building, but the square footage of the new structure is increased considerably
from the former structure; he asked how that was accomplished. Mr. Hoefler stated they are
building over the existing foundation, with two stories over the rear portion of the foundation;
some of the increased square footage comes from finishing a portion of the basement, he said.
Mr. Tomten said he thought the detailing of the structure was nice but expressed concern with
the height of the second floor, saying an issue, for him, would be keeping the structure a one
and one -half story residence. He also expressed concern about the height of the windows on
the south elevation. Mr. Johnson agreed that the height of the proposed design is more
representative of a full two -story house, rather than a one and one -half story. Mr. Tomten and
Mr. Johnson suggested that the second floor could be lowered two feet without a significant loss
of usable space. Mr. Hoefler argued that on any street, there are homes of different height; he
said the builder needs some value on the second floor, and said he did not think the proposed
design is oversized at all for the neighborhood. The contractor, Brandon Stryhn, pointed out that
lowering the height of the second floor could impact the bathroom. Mr. Eastwood asked how
much taller the new structure is proposed to be; Mr. Stryhn said the new home will be three feet
taller.
City of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
February 2, 2009
Mr. Lieberman expressed his concern with the demolition that has occurred and the failure to
follow proper process. He suggested tabling this case until the Commission receives more
history on what has occurred or not occurred to date. Mr. Lieberman opened the public hearing.
Brandon Stryhn, 1375 Pheasant Run, New Richmond, noted this is the first time he has done an
historic project in Stillwater. He reviewed what he had done, stating he had received a building
permit with the intent to save as much of the previous structure as possible. He described the
condition of the structure he found when work began and noted he then received permission to
demolish the rear addition to the structure. He said he has had the same set of plans since the
start of the project. He spoke of efforts he had made to save what he could of the previous
structure. He also stated the situation with this project is affecting his family and crew members
and tabling the case would cause additional stress.
Kevin Kiel, 722 Anderson St. W., spoke in favor of the project. He said he felt the other structure
was about to fall down. He stated there are a lot of houses in the area that look like full two
stories and said the project has lots of neighbor support.
Betsy Glennon, 812 S. Harriet St., spoke favorably of the people working on the project, saying
they are incredibly hard working and have been considerate and cooperative regarding
requests. She said she was happy to hear that no changes are planned to drainage or the
footprint of the structure, expressing a concern about a potential impact on her property should
the drainage be altered. She said she does have respect for historic preservation but noted that
it is too late to go back and reconstruct that property. She said the former property was a hazard
and eyesore and felt this would be an improvement for the neighborhood.
Mr. Lieberman read a letter from Mr. and Mrs. Fred Westcott, 918 Harriet St. S., into the record.
The letter indicated the writers were happy to see the former structure taken down but
expressed concern about the new structure being a duplex. Mr. Lieberman again noted that the
new structure will be a single - family residence, not a duplex.
Mr. Lieberman spoke of his sense that process has not been followed in this project. Mr.
Turnblad pointed out that there is a separate enforcement proceeding going on regarding the
demolition. Mr. Lieberman brought the discussion back to the table and ruled that the demolition
issue be removed from the discussion.
There was discussion about lowering the height of the second floor. Mr. Eastwood pointed out
that has a huge difference in salability and suggested there is not that big a difference visually in
the two -story versus one and one -half story. Mr. Zahren expressed his concern about the
process — having design review after the project is essentially complete. Mr. Johnson said he
thought that overall the proposal is a nice design, but he expressed concern about the massing
on a small lot and building that is close to the street. Mr. Johnson also spoke of some
discrepancies in the representation of the front elevation and the scale /position of the windows.
Mr. Tomten read design review guideline No. 12 regarding massing, saying that was his
concern and one that he would have had trouble with whether the design review took place
before demolition or not.
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City of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
February 2, 2009
Mr. Johnson moved approval of Case No. 09 -05 as conditioned, with the additional conditions
that the height of the ridge /eave line be lowered by no less than 1.5 feet and that the windows
on the front elevation be narrowed, from 34 to 30, to better fit the profile of the end gable. Mr.
Johnson stated the motion included approval of the details, such as Hardie lap siding and
colors, as presented. Mr. Tomten seconded the motion. Motion passed 5 -1, with Mr. Eastwood
voting no.
DESIGN REVIEWS
Case No. DR /09 -06 Design review of a non - illuminated wall sign at 350 Main St. N., #106, in the
CBD, Central Business District. Lawrence Signs, applicant.
The applicant was not present. Mr. Tomten asked if the requested sign is larger or smaller than
the allowable square- footage; Mr. Turnblad stated the requested signage is smaller than
allowed by ordinance. Mr. Tomten and Mr. Johnson both suggested that the signage be
narrowed in height and the text elongated to better fill the space. Mr. Tomten also suggested
changing the placement of the sign, bringing the sign out to the edge of the pilaster. Mr. Tomten
submitted a sketch showing the suggested approximate placement. Mr. Tomten, seconded by
Mr. Eastwood, moved approval of the requested signage as conditioned, with the additional
conditions that the height of the sign be approximately 2'2 ", with the text elongated, and that the
sign be moved to the edge of the structural column as indicated in the submitted sketch. Motion
passed unanimously. It was noted for the record that the sign is to be non - illuminated.
OTHER BUSINESS
2009 CLG grant application to the Minnesota Historical Society — A copy of the grant
application was included in the agenda packet. After brief discussion, it was consensus
to recommend that the grant application be submitted.
Changes to sign regulations in the BP zoning district — A copy of the new regulations
was included in the agenda packet. Mr. Turnblad briefly reviewed the primary changes —
multiple signs are now allowed, but the total allowable square footage has not changed.
Also, the allowable height of free - standing signs is shorter in the district farther off
Highway 36. Mr. Turnblad noted that the impetus for the change was the number of
variance requests received and approved. Rather than continuing to grant variances, he
said it was felt a better approach was to change the ordinance.
Meeting was adjourned at 8:30 p.m. on a motion by Mr. Johnson.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
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