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City of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
November 3, 2008
Present: Vice Chair Jeff Johnson, Phil Eastwood, Gayle Hudak, Larry Nelson, Roger Tomten,
Scott Zahren and Council Liaison Robert Gag
Staff present: Planner Mike Pogge
Absent: Howard Lieberman
Vice Chair Johnson called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Zahren, seconded by Ms. Hudak, moved approval of the minutes of
Aug. 18, 2008. Motion passed unanimously. Mr. Zahren, seconded by Ms. Hudak, moved
approval of the minutes of Oct. 6, 2008. Motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. DEM/08-51 A demolition request for a residence at 615 St. Louis St. E. in the RB,
Two Family Residential District, and Neighborhood Conservation District design review. David
G. Junker, applicant.
Regarding the requested demolition permit, Mr. Johnson pointed out the applicant had
completed all nine requirements for the issuance of a permit. Mr. Junker stated the house had
been on the market since April, with no purchase offers. He said he loves the neighborhood, but
the existing house is too small. He stated he has contacted house movers and may be able to
have the house moved if that can happen before Thanksgiving. Mr. Junker said he is still
requesting the demolition permit in the event that the house cannot be moved before the
Thanksgiving deadline. He stated the proposed new structure will have the same footprint as
the existing house. The only change, he said, is that the new house will have an attached
garage; the new structure will be two stories in height, rather than a single-level. He said the
new house will be Hardi-board on all four sides, with stone at the front entry only. He showed
some photos of the neighborhood, referring to the wide variety of architectural styles that exist in
the neighborhood. He pointed out that he had taken out the initially proposed space above the
garage. Two sketches of replacement structures were included in the packet, and Mr. Junker
said he preferred the Craftsman style architecture, versus the Prairie style. Mr. Junker provided
a list of signatures of neighbors in favor of the proposal.
Mr. Johnson opened the public hearing.
Pam Anondson, 1305 Fourth Ave. S., thanked Mr. Junker for looking into the possibility of
having the house moved. She stated her primary concern was demolishing the structure when
there are people who are in need of homes in which to live. She said design issues are the least
of her concern.
James Hanson, 1303 Fifth Ave. S., expressed a concern that constructing a new, expensive
home as proposed will increase his property taxes.
No other comments were received, and the hearing was closed. Mr. Eastwood noted that all
nine steps of the demolition ordinance had been fulfilled and spoke of the eclectic architectural
nature of the neighborhood. Mr. Johnson agreed that the nine required steps had been met for
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the demolition permit, but expressed his hope that the existing structure can be moved and
reused. Mr. Tomten echoed Mr. Johnson’s comments, and stated regarding the infill design
review that the Craftsman style reduces the massing of the new structure, with a roofline that
does a better job in keeping the height down as compared to the Prairie style.
Mr. Eastwood moved to approve the demolition permit and approve the Craftsman style for the
replacement structure, subject to staff approval of the final design, clarifying that the new
structure will be Hardi-board with stonework only at the front entry and with no second story
over the garage. Ms. Hudak seconded the motion. Mr. Zahren pointed out that previous
structures the Commission has been asked to approve for demolition have been in poor shape,
while this structure is in good shape. Mr. Zahren said it “doesn’t make sense to destroy a decent
structure” and he questioned tearing down a perfectly good house. Mr. Pogge suggested the
issue raised by Mr. Zahren comes with the 50-year parameters of the existing demolition
ordinance. Mr. Johnson noted that the nine steps for the issuance of a permit had been meet,
giving the Commission no option other than to approve the permit, and he noted that Mr. Junker
had pushed the envelope in looking at options for moving the structure. Mr. Eastwood’s motion
for approval passed unanimously.
DESIGN REVIEWS
Case No. 08-52 Design review of signage at 2510 Curve Crest Blvd. (The Edge Performance
Hockey Training Center) in the BP-C, Business Park Commercial District. Matt Doman,
applicant.
The applicant was not present. Mr. Eastwood, seconded by Mr. Zahren, moved approval as
conditioned. Motion passed unanimously.
Case No. 08-53 Design review of exterior modifications of façade at 232 N. Main St. in the CBD,
Central Business District. Mark Balay Architects, representing Gartner Studios, applicant.
Mr. Balay was present. Mr. Balay reviewed the request for eight additional window openings
along with a new deck, rail and second floor door on the south side of the building. Mr. Balay
said the new windows will match the existing windows in style and detail; he noted that
eventually all the windows will be replaced with new clad casement windows. Regarding the
railing, Mr. Balay noted there is already a deck area on the structure; he said the plans are to
have a glass handrail. Mr. Tomten asked about the support for the rail. Mr. Balay said the rail
will need to meet code and will essentially be invisible; Mr. Pogge pointed out that due to the
site, the rail will not be visible even if constructed of wood.
Mr. Eastwood, seconded by Mr. Nelson, moved approval as conditioned. Mr. Tomten suggested
adding a condition that staff review the final drawings and clarify that the new windows will
match the window details of the existing structure. Mr. Eastwood accepted Mr. Tomten’s
suggestion as a friendly amendment to the motion as did Mr. Nelson. Amended motion passed
unanimously.
NEW BUSINESS
Review and comment on Historic Resources and Downtown chapter of the Comprehensive Plan
update – Mr. Johnson said he thought the Historical Resources chapter was very well done, and
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Mr. Gag commented that he thought the chapter was one of the strongest sections in the Plan
update.
Mr. Eastwood questioned the use of the term “local” lending institutions in policy No. 7 on page
2, suggesting perhaps that is too limiting. Mr. Pogge explained there is a federal reason for
specifying local lending institution. Ms. Hudak said she would like to see a stronger policy to
assist those who can’t afford restoration. Mr. Eastwood also noted that on page three of the
chapter it states the Commission is responsible for review of applications for new development
or renovations … the Commission doesn’t not review remodeling projects of existing sites in the
Neighborhood Conservation District, he noted. Mr. Eastwood also spoke of what he termed an
“inconsistency” in the land use section in that commercial use is encouraged in the annexation
area, while it is discouraged in the historic neighborhoods; he said he thought commercial use
was part of the fabric of the historic neighborhoods and ought to be given the same
consideration as encouraging such use in the annexation area. Mr. Pogge pointed out there is
only one site specified for future commercial use in the western portion of the City, the site at
Myrtle and Manning.
Mr. Pogge briefly reviewed the Downtown Framework Plan. Mr. Johnson stated he did not have
a lot of comments to add related to this section. Mr. Tomten said he had talked with Community
Development Director Turnblad regarding putting a “more positive spin” on the market analysis
for the potential for more convenience/neighborhood retail in the downtown area.
Review and recommendation on Downtown Sidewalk Sign policy – The draft of the proposed
policy was included in the agenda packet. Mr. Gag pointed out that the committee assigned to
come up with the policy had done a lot of work. Mr. Nelson asked who would be responsible for
enforcing the policy; Mr. Pogge responded that would be his responsibility. Mr. Johnson said the
proposal seems to get at the intended purpose. There was discussion about the fact that state
law prohibits such signage in the highway right-of-way. Mr. Pogge explained that MnDOT has
indicated it will not approve the policy but will live with it. Mr. Nelson pointed out that many small
towns have such signage as part of their downtowns. Mr. Zahren, seconded by Mr. Tomten,
moved to approve the draft policy in concept. Vote was 5-1, with Mr. Eastwood voting no.
Review of Business Park signage – Mr. Pogge reviewed the history of the issue that resulted in
the Planning Commission’s recommendation that the signage policy be revised. He reviewed
the proposed changes, primarily a change to allow each site to have a total allowable sign area
of 15 percent of the building wall surface, allowing a minimum of 100 square feet and maximum
of 300 square feet of total sign area. Mr. Johnson clarified that the existing limit of 1 square foot
of signage per square foot of building frontage has not been changed, noting that on first
reading it would appear that a business would be allowed at least 100 square feet of signage.
Mr. Eastwood questioned why the Planning Commission was doing this revision to the signage
policy when the Heritage Preservation Commission reviews signage.
OTHER BUSINESS
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Mr. Johnson asked about the status of issues with the Lumber Baron’s Hotel. Mr. Pogge
said that is still in litigation.
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Mr. Johnson asked about the outcome of Maple Island’s request for a variance from the
Planning Commission. Mr. Pogge stated the request was tabled by the Planning
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Commission for more information regarding several questions the Planning Commission
had. Mr. Pogge noted the request was submitted as a variance from the infill regulations,
noting that if the building is not an infill structure, the Stefans could build their proposed
structure if they use a flat roof rather than a pitched roof; the flat roof design would have
to come back to the HPC for review, he noted.
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Mr. Tomten asked about the status of the revision to the demolition ordinance. Mr.
Pogge stated that has been put on the back burner due to the efforts on the
Comprehensive Plan update.
Mr. Eastwood, seconded by Mr. Nelson, moved to adjourn at 8:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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