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City of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
Monday, July 7, 2008
Present: Phil Eastwood, Gayle Hudak, Jeff Johnson, Roger Tomten and Scott Zahren
Staff present: Planner Mike Pogge
Vice Chair Johnson called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Zahren, seconded by Mr. Eastwood, moved approval of the minutes of
June 2, 2008. Motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Case No. DR/08-35.Design review for new construction in the Neighborhood Conservation
District located at 1221 N Broadway Street in the RB, Two Family Residential District. Sala
Architects, representing Steven and Jessica Meletiou, applicant.
Tim Old of SALA Architects was present; he noted that a three-dimensional model of the site
was available, as well as color studies that were not in the original application packet. It was
noted the site is currently a vacant lot. Mr. Johnson pointed out the intent of the Conservation
District was established primarily to provide uniformity to infills in historic neighborhoods so the
infill structure continues to support the historic community in respect to massing, scaling and
design. Mr. Johnson noted that this site is somewhat unique in that it is located on the east side
of Broadway where there are no historic homes; the homes that are there have been built in the
last 40 years or so, as opposed to the west side of the street where there are several older
homes. Mr. Johnson asked the architect about plans to address the slope of the site. Mr. Old
stated there is quite a bit of change in the slope of the site due to the condition of the quarry.
The house itself, he said, sits pretty much up on the street level, with the walkout located on an
existing shelf that lies below that, so the house nestles into the existing topography. Mr. Old
noted there is a 30-foot setback from the bluffline as required; he said retaining walls will be
minimal. Mr. Johnson pointed out that due to the topography there will be minimal impact on the
view from the street. Mr. Johnson asked if the applicant was aware of the suggested conditions
of approval, specifically the submission of a tree removal plan.
Mr. Johnson opened the public hearing. A realtor with Caldwell, Banker, Burnet, who has the
house next door listed, asked about the setback from the bluff. Mr. Pogge noted in the
discussion at the table that the required setback from the bluff in this area is 30 feet, not 40 feet
as this is not in the St. Croix River overlay district, and reaffirmed the 30 foot setback. There
was a question about an existing house and driveway. It was noted the current owner is building
a driveway to serve the new lot.
No other comments were received, and the hearing was closed. Mr. Eastwood moved to
approve as conditioned, with the additional condition that final colors and materials be submitted
to staff for approval and that a tree removal plan for the entire site be submitted to staff for
approval as well. Mr. Zahren seconded the motion. Mr. Tomten said he thought the applicants
had done a good job of following the guidelines and that the design fits well with the natural
grades of the site. Motion passed unanimously.
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DESIGN REVIEWS
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Case No. DR/08-31Design review for the installation of a new sign for Paws and Claws
Daycare located at 1900 Tower Drive in the BP-O, Business Park Office District. Daniel Lodge,
applicant.
The applicant was not present. In the staff report, it was noted the proposed sign meets the
code/ordinance requirements. Mr. Zahren, seconded by Mr. Eastwood, moved approval as
submitted and conditioned. Motion passed unanimously.
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Case No. DR/08-32Design review of a store façade located at 108 South Main Street in the
CBD, Central Business District. Dan Roettger, representing Mike Lynskey, applicant.
Dan Roettger was present. Mr. Johnson reviewed the proposed changes, which include removal
of the brick veneer and aluminum-framed windows and bringing the front elevation out flush with
the front of the building. There was discussion about the proposal for a take-out opening in the
south window. Mr. Johnson said he thought it looked somewhat awkward to have the window
cut up on a storefront where there would normally be a rhythm of windows; he also referred to
staff’s concern about traffic with the relatively narrow sidewalk. Mr. Tomten suggested the
possibility of doing gliding windows that open right to the sidewalk and said he was somewhat
bothered by trying to put in a small operating window with a wooden frame breaking up the
larger window opening. Mr. Roettger suggested running horizontal boards all away across and
centering the opening. Mr. Tomten asked if the window could be full width; Mr. Roettger stated
they could special order the window.
Mr. Johnson pointed out in the historical photo, there were two large windows and a larger
entryway, so the front elevation was almost broken into thirds. Using that perspective, Mr.
Johnson suggested there could be a wider entryway, which would provide some opportunity to
have the service window open into the entry rather than out on the sidewalk front, or perhaps
have a double-door entry with one of the doors serving as the service window. Mr. Roettger
agreed that Mr. Johnson’s concept could be workable. Several members pointed out that
concept might affect the interior functions. Mr. Zahren questioned having the entrance and
service window/door functions in that close a proximity. Mr. Johnson suggested another
possibility would be to have the service window as proposed in the application look more like a
door, narrower and all the way to the ground, rather than a display window. Mr. Tomten noted
that the door concept could change the symmetry of the kick plate, as well as the window
openings. Mr. Johnson pointed out that the entryway could be shifted slightly to restore the
symmetry. Shifting the entryway could also impact the interior functions, it was noted. Mr.
Zahren asked if there was any way to make the service window less obtrusive; Mr. Johnson
suggested using a bronze aluminum glazing around the window opening rather than wood
columns/framing as proposed. Mr. Tomten said he liked the wood panels below and wood
framing between the four major panes to accentuate the wood verticals and minimize the steel
framing, the operational part of the service window bay. Mr. Johnson asked about the main
entry door; Mr. Roettger said it would be the same as the Main Street Square, bronze colored;
Mr. Johnson said the use of the wider frame is preferred to provide a more traditional look. Mr.
Johnson asked about colors; Mr. Roettger said staff preferred colors to match the adjacent
building to the south. The awning will remain unchanged, it was noted.
Mr. Tomten moved to approve the application as conditioned with the additional conditions: any
of the divided lights in the service window bay be held to as minimal a width as possible; that
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the vertical elements dividing the five storefront bays continue to be the dominant vertical
element on the storefront; that the applicant submit production drawings to staff for review
before going ahead with the manufacturing of storefront windows; that the door frames should
pick up on the historical proportion of a full light door and the heads and styles be of at least a 6”
dimension and the bottom rail 10-12”; and that color samples be provided to staff for review. Mr.
Johnson clarified that the kick panels and other elements of the building to the south will be
carried through on this storefront. Mr. Zahren seconded the motion; motion passed
unanimously.
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Case No. DR/08-33 Design review of a store façade located at 14480 60 Street North in the
BP-C, Business Park Commercial District. Tim Keenan, applicant.
Luke Riley, Riley Construction, was present representing the applicant. Mr. Riley briefly
explained proposed changes to the mansard/roof; he said two new windows may be added, but
no other changes to the windows are planned at this time. On a question by Mr. Johnson, Mr.
Riley stated he was not sure of the building owner’s signage plans. Mr. Johnson asked about
the columns; Mr. Riley stated those are actually roof drains that will be copper color to match
the mansard, spaced to appear as an architectural element.
Mr. Johnson moved to approve as submitted and conditioned. Ms. Hudak seconded the motion.
Mr. Tomten asked about lighting. Mr. Riley stated when the parking lot was resurfaced, proper
lighting was installed; he said they plan to install recessed can lights underneath the mansard,
canopy entrance and school gable. Mr. Johnson stated his motion stood with the clarification
that there will be recessed lighting under the mansard. Motion passed unanimously.
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Case No. DR/08-34. Design review of a sign located at 901 3 St S. in the RB, Two Family
Residential District. Mark Weyer, applicant.
The applicant was present. Mr. Eastwood asked about colors. Mr. Weyer stated the windows
are basically white, with red brick on the building, along with green and an off-white trim around
the green part of the roof. He said the original plans for the signage called for a white
background with green lettering; he said another option would be an off-white/antique white. Mr.
Johnson pointed out there is space along side of the door that might allow the signage to be
stacked, more like a professional building would have, rather than up on the parapet. Mr.
Johnson said he thought the proposed placement was a bit awkward; he suggested the signage
should be closer to the door, more of identification at the door, noting the building does carry an
address which is the primary locator. Mr. Weyer said he would be OK with a corner location. Mr.
Eastwood suggested sliding the signage over on the parapet so it is above the entrance. Mr.
Weyer said he chose the proposed location because that is where the previous sign was
located, and the color is different. Mr. Zahren agreed it seems to make more sense to move the
signage over as suggested by Mr. Eastwood. Mr. Johnson said if the signage is placed above
the entry, it should be no wider than an existing masonry line on the building or it would appear
clumsy at that location, too.
Mr. Johnson moved to approve the sign color of antique white background with green lettering
and a green band to separate the individual signs from each other, with the signage to be
placed on the masonry directly above the door on the Churchill elevation, confined within the
vertical line of the masonry of the door opening below, or placed between the door opening and
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the first window on the Churchill Street side. Mr. Eastwood seconded the motion. Mr. Johnson
clarified there will be no lighting. Motion passed unanimously.
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Case No. DR/08-36Design review of signage for the building located at 232 N. Main Street in
the CBD, Central Business District. Dana Daniels and Jan Dornself, applicant.
The applicants were present. Mr. Eastwood pointed out the address is 232 North Main Street,
not South Main Street, as indicated in the agenda packet. Mr. Johnson noted the proposal
involves using existing post and rebuilding the sign frame. Mr. Johnson clarified there would be
no lighting, other than the existing ground lights. Mr. Tomten pointed out that the existing light
fixture throws a wide beam and suggested adding a side shield to narrow the beam and hide the
light source. Mr. Johnson suggested another possibility for lighting would be to have a projecting
arm above the sign frame. It was noted the building will not house retail space; it will serve as a
design studio/office. Mr. Johnson stated if the applicant has some different lighting ideas, plans
could be brought back to the HPC or reviewed by staff.
Mr. Johnson moved to approve the sign as submitted with repair to the box frame and lighting
utilizing the existing ground lighting, provided shields are added to the fixtures, or replacing the
ground lighting with projecting arms from the top of the sign box, with details presented to staff
for review and approval. Mr. Zahren seconded the motion. Mr. Tomten suggested that perhaps
small LED lights could be installed and concealed within the top cap of the sign itself. Motion
passed unanimously.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Pogge stated that historically there was a plaque on the flag pole in Lowell Park. He said the
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intent was to replicate plaque. Using a sculpted Lions Club head, the cost of a new plaque
would be about $3,000, without a sculpted head, the cost would be about $800, he said. He said
the City and Lions Club would split the cost, based on the $800 cost. Mr. Pogge said the
question to the HPC is whether to contribute $1,500 of HPC funds to replicate the plaque. He
said verbiage would be added to indicate this is not the original plaque, otherwise the original
will be replicated as much as possible. It was noted the $1,500, part of a lawsuit settlement, can
be used basically for preservation purposes. It was agreed to have Mr. Pogge obtain more
information, and also contact the Lions Club regarding additional cost participation.
Mr. Tomten raised the issue of the lights at the Shirt Factory and asked that the wattage be
confirmed or the owners be contacted about utilizing different bulbs.
Ms. Hudak, seconded by Mr. Tomten, moved to adjourn at 8:35 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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