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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1979-09-19 Joint Powers Packet . . e JOINT POWERS PLANNING COMMITTEE AGENDA SEPTEMBER 19, 1979 WASHINGTON COUNTY COURTHOUSE COUNTY BOARD CHAMBERS STILLWATER, MINNESOTA 7 :00 P.M. 1. Public Hearing: Orville E. Madsen and Son, Inc. re- zoning request to permit a 60 unit. townhouse development. (Hearing is scheduled but will not be held unless information and application are sub- mitted> . 7 :30 P.M. - 2. Public Hearing: David Linquist and Leighton Johnson rezoning request to permit a multiple fami Iy housing and light commercial development. 3 . Ca II to Order 4. Approve Minutes of August 15th Meeting 5. General Discussion 6. Adjournment Signed: D.E. Koehler Dated: September 5, 1979 e .. .. e Minutes of the Joint Powers Committee September 19, 1979 CALL TO ORDER The meeti ng was called to order at 7: 15 P. M. by Chairperson Cathy Buck. MEMBERS PRESENT Cathy Buck, Bill McDonald, Harry Peterson, William Lundquist OTHERS PRESENT Dan Koehler, Sue Mosiman, Doug Swenson, Wayne Norman, Mrs. Norman, Mrs. Feely, Mr. Feely, Edwin Eckert, John Caldwell, Leighton Johnson, Harold Kimmel, Dave linquist, John Putz e PUBLIC HEARING: ORVILLE E. MADSEN & SONS, INC. REZONING RE- QUEST TO PERMIT A 60 UNIT TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENT Mr. Eckert, Architect for Orville Madsen & Sons, Inc, reviewed the design of the units and topography of the property. The proposed units are designed to fit the natural grade of the property as much as possible. There will be eight (8) buildings, two (2) six-plexs and three (3) eight- plexs. The use of this property will create a transition between the single fami Iy residents, to the light industrial property. The area will be split into two (2) areas possibly being called Charter Oak East and Charter Oak West. The roads wi II be private and not through streets due to the grade of the land. They are proposing to construct 500;0 of the garage requirement and designate areas for possible future garages. There will be three (3) one (1) bedroom single story units, three (3) two (2) bedroom handicapped units, fifty (50) two (2) bedroom units, two (2) three (3) bedroom units, two (2) four (4) bed- room units. There will be pedestrian walkways that will connect the units to the streets and provide cross circulation to recreational areas. There will be a large open area for recreation, a surfaced recreation area for court games, and three (3) tot lots. The area of the property is 8.26 acres with the square footage of the bui Id- ing totalling 42,000 (less than one (1) acre) which Mr. Eckert feels is a pleasant densi ty . Mr. Peterson asked how snow plows, emergency vehicles, etc. would circu- late on the streets since they are not through streets. Mr. Eckert stated there is adequate room for turn arounds at the end of each road. e A cross section was displayed that showed how the bui Idings would be placed on the property so as not to disturb the natura I grade any more than necessary. e Joint Powers Minutes September 19, 1979 Page Two Mr. Putz expressed concern over the 50 foot buffer zone proposed and the amount of landscaping that will be done. Mr. Caldwell explained the code calls for a 60 foot buffer zone which will be met. The landscaping wi II be done as the code requires. Mr. Caldwell prefers landscaping rather than fencing as a screen. Mr. Caldwell explained that they do not provide 800;0 one (1) bedroom units required in a townhouse development. The 800;0 one (1) bedroom require- ment is not feasible for a rental project, states Mr. Caldwell. Mr. McDonald feels the public hearing should be closed due to the fact there is another public hearing scheduled, further discussion could follow in the regular meeting. Cathy Buck asked if anyone had any questions be- fore the hearing adjourned. e Mr . Norman questioned the number of garages. He feels 30 garages are not enough due to the fact some residents will have two (2) cars and some will use the garage as storage areas. Mr. Caldwell explained there wi II be storage area in each unit plus parking aprons in front of the garages. Mrs. Norman expressed concern over the additional traffic which the 60 uni ts wi II generate on Greeley Street. Mr. Ca ldwe n stated that once the area is developed more roads will be opened up. The public hearing adjourned at 8: 10 P.M. PUBLIC HEARING: DAVID LINQUIST AND LEIGHTON JOHNSON RE- ZONING REQUEST TO P~RMIT A MULTIPLE FAMILY HOUSING AND LIGHT COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT Mr. Kimmelexplajned that Dan suggested the property be zoned limited business. The multiple fami Iy units would then need a special use per- mit. Mr. Kimmel went on to explain the development of thi s property de- pends on the cleve lopment of the adjacent property. He was under the impression there would be a road between the linqUist/Johnson property and the Madsen property. e Mr. Kimmel explained the west end of the property would be developed as multiple family and the front of the property on Oasis, would be de- veloped as light commercial. The property would be platted and they plan to build seven (7) six-plex units to be sold to individuals; yet linquist/ Johnson would still utilize the condominium law and maintain the green areas, parking lots, garages, recreational faci lities, etc. The proposed units will be two (2) bedrooms with 760 square feet of living area. e Joint Powers Minutes September 19, 1979 Page Three Cathy Buck asked what the proposed use of the light commercial area would be. Mr. Kimmel explained Mr. linquist owns the Broaster line Equipment Company on Highway 212 and he feels it would be better lo- cated in a light commercial zone or possibly a two (2) story office build- ing with three (3) offices on each floor would be suitable for this area. The property is 5.6 acres in area, four (4) acres of which would be used as multip Ie fami Iy dwelling and 1. 6 acres light commercial. The southern boundary of the property is approximately 100 to 150 feet from 62nd Street. The property between 62nd Street and the Linquist/ Joh nson property is ow ned by Mr. Axdah I. Cathy Buck asked if there were any questions, hearing none the public hearing adjourned at 8:30 P.M. CALL TO ORDER The regular Joint Powers meeting was called to order at 8:30 P.M. e APPROVAL OF MINUTES Harry Peterson made a motion to approve the minutes of the August 15, 1979 meeting. Motion seconded. Motion carried. GENERAL DISCUSSION As far as taking action on either proposal, Mr. McDonald feels the Com- mittee should defer action until the October meeting. Mr. Peterson pre- fers to talk to other members of the City Council before voting. Dis- cussion continued regarding the JOhnson/linquist and Orvi lie Madsen prop- erties. Mr. Peterson expressed concern over the traffic situation due to the con- centration of existing housing units within a few blocks of each other and then adding the 102 units proposed. Mrs. Norman asked how the multiple family units would affect the mar- ket value of their property. Cathy Buck feels this type of development would not adversely affect the market value as much as an industrial use could. Cathy Buck finds the staging of the development achieved from transi- tional zoning, from single family to multiple family to industrial, to be attractive. e Mr. P utz wanted to express the fact that even though the area is zoned e Joint Powers Minutes September 19, 1979 Page" Four industrial it is now a corn field and any change to the area will have a dramatic effect on the residents. Discussion wi II continue on the next regular Joint Powers meeting Octo- ber 17, 1979 at 5:00 P.M. Mr. Caldwell reviewed the letter sent by Dan to the Joint Powers Com- mi ttee . The maximum density allowed by the ordinance is one (1) unit per 6,000 square feet of lot area, which they will comply with. - The number of proposed townhouse structures is eight (8), in a develop- mentof this density the ordinance would require nine (9). Mr. Caldwell explained the reason for eight (8) units was due to the topography of the land. Cathy Buck feels their proposal is pleasing. Mr. McDonald has no objection to eight (8) townhouses. Dan explained items out of compli- , ance with the zoning ordinance can not be permitted through the issuance of a special use permit or variance. If the Committee feels that some or all of those aspects of the prOposal should be permitted, the Committee must first amend the zoning ordi nance. Dan stated the square footage of each of the units meets the requirement for a multiple family dwelling but falls short of the square footage require- ment for single fami Iy dwellings as required in the ordinance. The aver- age one(l) bedroom unit will have 650 - 675 square feet on the first floor, two (2) bedroom handicapped 900 square feet, two (2) bedroom 530 square feet, three (3) bedroom 586 square feet, four (4) bedroom 746 square feet. Parking not included in the proposed 123 parking spaces. are the tandem spaces in front of the garages which woutd result in an additional 30 parking spaces as required. Also a screened area will be provided for recreati on veh i c Ie s . The units will have balconies and/or patios. Air conditioning units will be of a sleeve type which will project into the bui Idings. The trash areas will be screened. e Parking spaces wi II be 9 x 22~ feet which includes a 2~ foot over- hang over the curbing. .. e Joint Powers Minutes September 19, 1979 Page Five The garages will be sided in the same material as the townhouses. There wi II be no open air drying of clothing, each unit wi II have hook-up facilities for washers and dryers. The remaining items were discussed and Mr. Caldwell stated they would comply with them. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 9:3 S P. M . - e