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Home My WebLink About1979-11-14 Joint Powers Packet - e e _.~ ~. 1. 2. 3. 4. JOINT POWERS P LANN ING COM MITT EE AGENDA NOVEMBER 14, 1979 WASHINGTON COUNTY COURTHOUSE COUNTY BOARD CHAMBERS STILLWATER, MINNESOTA 7:00P.M. Public Hearing: Poka Dot Dairy, Inc. Rezoning and SUP Request. Public Hearing: Resubdivision of Outlots C & D, Sti Ilwater Industrial Park. Public Hearing: Zoning Amendments to Sections 414 and 729. Regular Meeting A. Call to Order B. Roll Call C. Approva I of Minutes D. Polka Dot Dairy, Inc. Re- zoning & SUP Request E. Resubdivision of Outlots C & D, Stillwater Industrial Park F . Zoning Ordinance Amendments G. linquist/Johnson Proposal H . Orvi lie E. Madsen & Sons, Inc. Proposal 10- Burger King CUP J. General Discussion K. Adjournment Please Note: Dan Koehler will be unable to attend this meeti ng . Signed: D .E. Koehler Dated: November 6, 1979 . .. e e e .~.. Minutes of the Joint Powers Committee November 14, 1979 CALL TO ORDER The meeting was called to order at 7: 10 P.M. by Chairperson Cathy Buck. MEMBER S PRESENT Harry Peterson, Ann Bodlovick, Bill Easton Jr, Cathy Buck OTHERS PRESENT Lyle Doerr, Sue Mosiman, Doug Swenson, John Caldwell, Bi II Pauley, Maury Jenson, Joan Eggert, -Kay Tomaszek, Walter Tomaszek, Mary Ann Johnson, Harold Kimmel, Bruce Folz, Richard Fuchs, Gene Fritzi nger, Leonard Feely APPROVAL OF MINUTES Motion was made to approve the minutes of October 17, 1979. Motion sec- onded. Motion carried. LINQUIST/JOHNSON PROPOSAL Mr. kimmel explained the project they were proposing was to be funded by con- ventional financing which is no longer available. linquist/Johnson are still re- questi ng the rezoning of the front three (3) lots abutting Greeley Street from In- dustrial to Limited Business. Ann stated the Committee could possibly act on the rezoning of the front three (3) lots although they were told by the City not to take action on the rezoning of the lots, in the rear of the property, to Multiple Family. Mr. Kimmel ex- plained linqui st/ Johnson would like to rezone only the front three (3) lots and defer action on the other lots at this time. Motion was made to grant the rezoning of the NE corner (three (3) lots) abut- ting Greeley Street providing a legal description of this parcel is supplied. M oti on seconded. Cathy sees no need to rezone the property due to the fact a CUP is required whether it is zoned Industrial or changed to Commercial limited Business. Motion failed with the vote as follows; Peterson - yes, Bodlovick - yes, Buck - no, Easton - no. Cathy stated the proposal is subject to ratification by the Township. BURGER KING CUP The P lanning Department received a letter stating the representatives of the Antler Corporation would be out of town and unable to attend tonights meeting. e Joint Powers Minutes November 14, 1979 Page Two Members of the public noted concern over the drainage and lighting scheme of Burger King. Motion was made to send a registered letter to Antler Corporation regarding the Burger King's violations of their CUP and request their presence at the Decem- ber 19th meeting. Motion seconded. Mr. Easton moved to amend the motion to read as follows; A registered letter be sent to the Antler Corporation regarding the Burger King's violation of their CUP and request their presence at the December 19th meeting; fai lure to appear before this Committee will justify appropriate legal action to be taken. Motion seconded. Both the motion and amendment were carried.' POLKA DOT DAIRY, INC. REZONING & SUP REQUEST Motion was made to instruct the P lanning Department to prepare an SUP for Polka Dot Dairy, Inc. for the Committee's consideration at the December 19, 1979 meeting. Motion seconded. Motion carried. e RESUBDIVISION OF OUTLOTS C & D, STILLWATER INDUSTRIAL PARK Mr. Pauley would like to get the property surveyed yet this fall. Cathy ex- pressed concern over the small size of the lots but found no other problem with the resubdivision. Ann had no concerns. Mr. Peterson questioned the basis of holding the matter open for written comment until December 12, 1979 since no one has come forward to oppose the resubdivision to date. Mr. Swenson stated there is no legal reason they can not make a decision this evening. Motion was made to approve the concept plan of the resubdivision of Outlots C & D. Motion seconded. Motion carried. ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS Mr. Peterson asked if by amending the ordinance they were only concerning the Madsen proposal. Cathy stated the amendments were concerning all town- houses and apartments. Mr. Peterson asked that it be made clear that approv- al of these amendments in no way gave approval to the Madsen proposal. Mr. Ca I dw e II stated he u nders tood th is. The Committee asked that the Planning Department mai I them a copy of the new zoning ordinance by December, so the Committee can correlate the County Ordinance with the Committee's adopted Model Ordinance. e Bi II is opposed to the recommendati on of an open ended num ber of uni ts per structure. He would not be opposed to a limited number of ten (10). Motion e Joint Powers Minutes November 14, 1979 Page Three was made to change the number of units per structure from seven (7) to ten (10) in amendment 414.01 (9). Motion seconded. Motion carried. Motion was made to delete Section 414.01 (12). Motion seconded. Mo- tion carried. Motion was made that the minimum square footage of townhouses be equal to the requirement of a multiple family dwelling in Section 414.01 (13). Mo- tion seconded. Motion carried. Motion was made to change the minimum parking stall size from 9' x 23' to 91 x 18' with a minimum aisle'width of 26' in Section 729.02 no>. Mo- tion seconded. Motion carried. GENERAL DISCUSSION Gene Frj tz i nger requested the use of the former MJM Motors bu i ld i ng as a van conversion/sales type operation. e At this time no SUP application has been received by the Planning Depart- ment. Motion was made to schedule a public hearing at .7:00 P.M. Decem- ber 19th on the condition an SUP application is received by the Planning De- partment by November 28, 1979. Motion seconded. Motion carried. Mr. Folz discussed the Augustine Brothers proposal to rezone and subdivide property located on 60th Street. Mr. Folz is waiting for word from the City Engineer regarding storm water run-off, drainage, and road alignment of 61st Street. There was discussion regarding the 100' greenstrip. Mr. Folz is against using this strip as a public walkway. Mrs. Buck stated the 100' green area is to be used as a buffer between Forest Hills and any construction on the property. Mr. Folz is agreeable to an open spac,=, greenstrip. The Committee is going to request Mr. Elliot, City Engineer to attend the December 19, 1979 meeting to address the concept of 61st Street and water run-off problems concerning the Augustine property. ADJOURNMENT The meeting adjourned at 9:45 P. M. e e Minutes of the Joint Powers Comm ittee Resubdivision of Outlots C & D, Stillwater Industrial Park Public Hearing Held November 14, 1979 Washington County Courthouse, Sti IIwater, Minnesota Members Present: Ann Bodlovick, Cathy Buck, Harry Peterson, Bill Easton Jr, Will iam Lundqui st Others Present: Lyle Doerr, Sue Mosiman, Doug Swenson, John Caldwell, Bill Pauley, Maury Jenson, Joan Eggert, Walter Tomaszek, Kay Tomaszek, Mary Ann Johnson, Howard Kimmel, Bruce Folz, Richard Fuchs, Leonard Feely, Gene Fritzinger Chairperson Buck opened the hearing at 7:38 P.M. Mr. Pauley displayed a site plan of the property he wishes to subdivide. e Cathy read a letter to Mr. Pauley from Attorney Jim Lammers which stated pay- ment for park dedication was made. The value of the dedication was 100;0 of the assessor's market value or $19,252.50. The actual amount paid was $11,873.50, the adjustment of $1,500 per acre was made for dedication of land for storm water and ponding purposes and also the dedication of land for a water storage site. It is Mr. Lammers understanding no further payment would be required. Cathy stated the Township feels charging Mr. Pauley a park fee for resubdivi- sion of these lots would be similar to double taxation. The public hearing adjourned at 7:45 P.M. e e Minutes of the Joint Powers Committee Polka Dot Dairy, Inc. Public Hearing Held November 14, 1979 Washington County Courthouse, Stillwater Minnesota Members Present: Ann Bodlovick, Cathy Buck, Harry Peterson, Bill Easton Jr, William Lundqui st Others Present: Lyle Doerr, Sue Mosiman, Doug Swenson, John Caldwell, Bi II Pauley, Maury Jenson, Joan Eggert, Walter T omaszek, Kay Tomaszek, Mary Ann Johnson, Howard Kimmel, Bruce Folz, Richard Fuchs, Leonard Feely, Gene Fritzinger Chairperson Buck opened the hearing at 7:30 P. M. Mr. Fuch's displayed the site plan of the property. He descirbed changes that are to be. made, as suggested by the County Engineer; 6" x 18" curbing against the blacktop is to be installed and also sod is to be laid rather than seed. e Cathy stated the record wi II be left open for written comment until December 12, 1979 . The publ ic hearing adjourned at 7:38 P.M. e e Minutes of the Joint Powers Committee Zoning Amendments to Sections 414 and 729 Public Hearing Held November 14, 1979 Washington County Courthouse, Sti I !water , Minnesota Members Present: Ann Bodlovick, Cathy Buck, Harry Peterson, Bill Easton Jr, William Lundquist Others Present: Lyle Doerr, Sue Mosiman, Doug Swenson, John Caldwell, Bill Pauley, Maury Jenson, Joan Eggert, Walter Tomaszek, Kay Tomaszek, Mary Ann Johnson, Howard Kimmel, Bruce Folz, Richard Fuchs, Leonard Feely, Gene Fritzinger Chairperson Buck opened the hearing at 7:45 P. M. Cathy read Danis proposals of amendments 414.01 (9), 414.01 (12), 414.01 (13), 414.01 (15), and 729.02 (10), e Mr. Caldwell, representative of Orville Madsen and Sons, Inc. agreed with not limiting the number of unit$ per structure. He feels the deletion of limiting the 0;0 of dwelling unit types is agreeable. At this time the Ordinance requires 300;0 one (1) bedroom units which he feels it too great for a townhouse development. Mr. Caldwell also agrees with Dan regarding the minimum square footage of a townhouse being equal to the requirement of a multiple family dwelling instead of the requirement for a detached single family residence. Mr. Caldwell agrees with Dan's basic parking requirements, but feels a 1:1 garage is a mistake, he would prefer a convenant description requiring extra parking space if the town- houses were ever sold as condominiums. Mr. Caldwell stated that Madsen & Sons, Inc. does not allow storage of recreational vehicles on the rental prop- erty. Mr. Caldwell feels area should be provided by the owner if he allows recreational vehicles to be stored on the property. He also feels a 621 width parking lot is more appropriate than 60', this allows for two (2) parking stalls at 91 x 181 and an aisle width of 26'. The public hearing adjourned at 8:25 P.M. e