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City of Stillwater
Heritage Preservation Commission
December 5, 2005
Present: Howard Lieberman, chair (7:50)
Phil Eastwood, Jeff Johnson, Brent Peterson, Roger Tomten and Scott Zahren
Others: Planner Sue Fitzgerald
Absent: Larry N ielson
Vice Chair Johnson called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes : Mr. Eastwood said regarding DR/05 - 53, he did not ask whether any
comments had been received from neighbors; Mr. Peterson said he posed that question.
Regarding Case DR/0 5 - 52, Mr. Eastwood asked that it be clarified that Mr. Peterson
moved approval, seconded by Mr. Eastwood. Mr. Peterson moved approval of the
minutes of Nov. 7, 2005, as corrected. Mr. Eastwood seconded the motion; motion
passed unanimously.
Mr. Johnson we lcomed new member, Scott Zahren.
Case No. DR/05 - 55 Design review of signage for Hoffman Heating and Cooling at 1709
S. Greeley St. Dennis Doerr, applicant.
The applicant was not present. Mr. Johnson expressed a concern about the amount of
white backgroun d on the proposed sign. Mr. Johnson also questioned whether internally
lighted signage is permissible in the BPI District. Ms. Fitzgerald noted that internally lit
signage is permissible, and this is an existing sign that the applicant wishes to reuse at
t his new location. Ms. Fitzgerald also said the Commission could request that the
background not be as white or of lower wattage. Mr. Eastwood noted the request is a
conforming one.
Mr. Lieberman, seconded by Mr. Eastwood, moved to continue this case. Moti on passed
unanimously.
Case No. DR/05 - 56 Design review of sign package for Liberty Village at 105 New
England Place. Steven Hirtz, Nordquist Sign, representing the applicant.
Present were Steven Hirtz and Jay Feider, owner/developer. Mr. Tomten referred to
signage guidelines for the Liberty development. Overall, he said he had hoped more
could have been done with the signage to capture the spirit and character of a corner
neighborhood village. Mr. Tomten said the image of a New England graphic/artwork was
a strong element of the whole design guidelines. While he said he thought the proposal
was OK, he said he felt it was a little light on the spirit or “zing” of the original intent. Mr.
Tomten suggested something might be done with signage for the upper fl oors. The
applicant said the upper level tenants would certainly like signage; they had stayed away
from that due to a concern about creating confusion over entrances to those businesses
with the placement of signage. Mr. Johnson said there were a couple o f fixtures that
appeared to be part of a sign band. Mr. Johnson noted that on both the east and west
elevations, there are projecting signs as well as wall signs on the second floor. Mr.
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Johnson also pointed out that on the dumpster sheds, Liberty Village is shown on two of
the structures; hequestioned whether that signage with the amount of verbiage as
proposed would be readable from Highway 15. Mr. Tomten agreed that on the dumpster
si gns, the focus should be Liberty Village rather than listing tenants; it also was
suggested that the signage utilize the same font as that on the gas station sign. Mr.
Johnson suggested that the focus of the building signage be Office Lofts. Mr. Tomten
sug gested that rather than a directory, individual tenants could have different signage,
providing for the diversity and creativity as originally envisioned. Mr. Eastwood said he
thought, for consumers, a directory, as proposed, would be important. Mr. Tomten
suggested there is room for as many as eight individual signs above the white frieze
board. The developer expressed a concern about confusion regarding entrances to the
individual tenants.
Ms. Fitzgerald asked whether the applicant would be interested in working with one or
two HPC members regarding the issues/suggestions. Mr. Johnson pointed out that
suggestions would actually enable the applicant to utilize larger signage than requested
and do so more effectively for the applicant’s purpose. Mr. Tomten volunteered to work
with the applicant. Mr. Eastwood moved to continue this case, with Mr. Tomten to work
with the applicant. Mr. Peterson seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously. Mr.
Feider said another issue is the street address. Mr. Johnson sugg ested the address
could be placed on the sign under Office Lofts.
DR/05 - 57 Design review of garage addition for Joseph Wolf condominiums, 402 S. Main
St. Steve Bremer, applicant.
Mr. Bremer was present. He said the attached garage had always been in the plan and
didn’t realize elevations had never been provided. He provided old photos, which
showed cupolas similar to what he would like to utilize. Mr. Bremer said Hardiboard
siding likely would be used for the upper level. The roofs would be hip roof/stand ing
seam. A color has not been selected at this time. Brick would be the same as on the
restaurant; Mr. Johnson asked if there was some way to give the brick some relief. Mr.
Bremer said that would be possible.
Mr. Peterson moved approval of the three req uested projects, with the condition that on
top of the garage addition, the cornice/parapet be the same as above the infill building
and coffee shop. Mr. Eastwood seconded the motion. Mr. Johnson also suggested that a
paint chip be submitted to staff for a pproval; Mr. Bremer said that would be done. Mr.
Johnson also noted for clarification that the roofs will be standing seam/hip roofs on both
of the garage additions. Motion passed unanimously.
Members congratulated Mr. Bremer on the quality of his project s to date.
Other items:
Mr. Johnson noted that the City has received the Preserve America designation and
thanked Ms. Fitzgerald for her efforts.
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Mr. Eastwood, seconded by Mr. Peterso n moved to adjourn at 8:10 p.m. Motion passed
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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