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STILLWATER PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
MEETING NOTICE
JUNE 26, 2000
The Stillwater Parks and Recreation Board will meet on Monday. June 26. 2000 at 6:00 p.m. at
Stillwater City Hall in the Council Chambers Conference Room 213,216 N. 4th Street.
AGENDA
I. Approval of May 22, .2000 minutes.
2. New Business:
a. Tourofl)iscGolfPark, Browns Creek area, Settlers Park and Public Works site.
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Park. The City will supply the food and utensils, if you want metal
plates, you will have to bring your own.
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Fitness Walking Map RequestS-Mike Polehna
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new siding proposal for Lily Lak@iandsound system for
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Park.
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Commission and Park and
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4. Other items
5. Adjournment
NOTE: MEETING
6:00 P.M.
CITY HALL: 216 NORTH FOURTH STILLWATER, MINNESOTA 55082 PHONE: 651-430-8800
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Parks and Recreation Board
May 22, 2000
Present: Del Peterson, Chair
Linda Amrein, Rich Cummings, Dawn Flinn, David Junker, Steve Wolff, Mike Polehna, and
Sara Thingvold
Others: Community Development Director Steve Russell, City Engineer Klayton Eckles and Tim
Morris, Planning Intern
Absent: Rob McGary, Wally Milbrant
Mr. Peterson called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr.Wolff, seconded by Ms. Amrein, moved approval of the minutes of April 24,
2000. All in favor.
New Business:
Review of Trail and Open Space Concept for Park Dedication Requirement for Four Lot Subdivisions
Located on 22.75 Acres at the NW Comer of County Road 5 And Trunk Highway 36
Mr. Russell gave an overview of the area ofthe proposed park dedication, zoning information in the
area, the extension of Curve Crest and it's relation to this area and this dedication in relation to the
City's Open Space System and Trail System.
Mr. Bradshaw explained the proposal and the proposed park like setting for the site. He explained that
St. Croix Sentry has submitted a letter of intent as one of the tenants for this project and gave an
overview this company's function. He stated that the architect is addressing the issue of the watershed,
drainage and the preservation of the site.
Mr. Peterson stated that he was concerned that the City was not receiving its fair 7% for park dedication
in this proposal.
Mr. Junker explained that this park dedication is to preserve the forest area and conceived to be more of
a walking park in the area that would have benches and picnic areas along the trail.
Mr. Russell stated that in the Legend subdivision the City obtained the woodland on that site. He stated
that the woodland is a valuable resource, even though this is not conducive to a ballfield etc. There are
different values to land; in this case the protection of the wooded area and the natural areas would be a
resource that would be important.
Mr. Bradshaw explained the overall feel of the site. He stated that the landscaping plan would provide a
more natural setting and place trees to deaden the noise from the highway.
Mr. Bradshaw stated that the time frame is hopefully to break ground in 2001, depending on funding
from MnlDOT and working with the various agencies this project impacts.
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Mr. Eckles stated that this street will be a collector street connecting all of the northern development,
like the Phase II & Phase III area. This will allow for traffic to use this frontage road rather than
Deerpath and get traffic out of the neighborhood. He stated that this street should be designed with
shoulders etc. with a 30 mph design.
Ms. Flinn moved, seconded by Mr. Junker, approving the trail and open space concept for park
dedication requirement for four lot subdivisions located on 22.75 acres at the NW comer of County
Road 5 and Trunk Highway 36. All in favor.
Initial Review of Trail and Park Plan for the Phase II Expansion Area, U.S. Home, Applicant.
Mr. Russell explained that the City is beginning to work with U.S. Homes in developing the Phase II
expansion area located south of McKusick, north of Boutwell, west of County Road 15. The area was
designated in the Comprehensive Plan to enter the City in 1999. He explained and gave an overview of
the parks and trails already proposed or being developed, including an area for the Public Works facility.
Mr. Eckles stated that there would be internal trails and sidewalks within the developments that are not
shown. These trails are internal connective trails or destination type trails.
Mr. Bill Pritchard, U.S. Homes, provided the Commission an overview of the proposed development
and park/open space in this development. He explained that U.S. Homes is trying to maintain the
natural slopes of the development. He stated there is approximately 25.8 acres or 20% of open space
and the overall open space, including wetland, is approximately 47.72 acres or 30% ofthe site.
Mr.Pritchard stated that they hope the City will give credit for the amount of trails, not including the
required sidewalks as part of the subdivision, in lieu of some land dedication.
Mr. Russell stated he talked with Mary Lou Poguet of the School District regarding the number of
children that would be in the development. The City would be purchasing some of this using Greenway
money.
Mr. Cummings stated that this project is very unusual that net effect is that this development has a
percentage basis of park dedication is more than you would see in a normal subdivision.
Mr. Russell stated that this development is trying to use the natural areas as the framework for this
development. He stated that the goal is to preserve the history and the natural area of this site.
Ms. Thingvold stated that she felt that one play structure for this area would not be enough and that the
distance to the park for some of the homes is too far.
Mr. Wolff stated that the size of the play structure would be approximately the size of Benson Park.
Mr. Eckles stated that the tot lots are becoming a thing of the past because of maintenance issues and the
size of the equipment. He stated that the neighborhood park with bigger structure and area are becoming
the standard like Benson Park.
Mr. Russell stated that the Legends and Liberty developments use the park to help sell the property. In
that case the developers went beyond what a regular developer would develop.
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Ms. Thingvold asked Mr. Eckles ifhe is suggesting no tot lots. She believes the neighborhood tot lots is
a good concept.
Mr. Eckles stated that a neighborhood tot lot on a city lot in a neighborhood would not be feasible. In
this case the tot lot would be in conjunction with an entire park area.
Mr. Pritchard stated that there will be a homeowner's association that will maintain some ofthe open
space and there will be covenants regarding architectural aspects such as fencing and how things would
be constructed in someone' s backyard.
Ms. Thingvold stated that she would like to see another park within the development.
Mr. Cummings stated that he felt the park should have an area similar to Northland Park where there is
people using one part of the park and kids on a play structure in the same area. He also stated that the
preponderance amount of open space in this development is huge and it needs to be considered as well
as the active park area.
Mr. Pritchard stated that he would look at the open area. He felt it was a nice linkage of park usage and
that there was some real benefits to keeping it separate.
Motion by Mr. Cummings, seconded by Mr. Wolff accept the concept plan as presented, even the park
dedication amounts and proposed developed areas, and the developer and City staff can work together to
try to get the Commission's ideas in the central area.
. Ayes: Mr. Cummings, Ms. Flinn, Mr. Junker, Mr. Wolff, Mr. Polehna, Ms. Thingvold
Nays: Ms. Amrein and Mr. Peterson
Mr. Russell stated that he would bring the final plan to the Commission.
Discussion on Creekside Crossing Nature Trail, Neighborhood Residents.
Mr. Russell provided information on the Creekside Crossing Natural Trail that is required to be provided
by the developer, which the developer is prepared to begin constructing. He stated that the proposed
location for the trail might not be the best location for the trail.
Joanna Eckles reviewed her thoughts in relation to placing the trail at a different location, enhancing the
nature trail and better use of the site. She had three suggestions. The first is being a reroute of one
portion of the trail using a boardwalk. The boardwalk be closer to the creek and eventually connect to
the planned trail. Other things to incorporate would be two vista points would be a lookout toward the
creek, a feature at the huge large maple tree at the end of the trail. She felt this trail would be suited for
interpretive signage.
Mr. Russell stated that the trail proposed is a concept trail. He felt the boardwalk and signage is a good
concept.
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Mr. Cummings asked ifthe DNR had any problems with boardwalks.
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Ms. Eckles stated that the DNR does not have a position on boardwalks. The size would be
approximately four feet wide, 250 feet long and it would ride on the vegetation, widening for lookout
and a trailhead sign until the Browns Creek Nature Area becomes a reality.
Mr. Eckles stated that he hoped the maintenance of this trail would be done by volunteer groups.
Mr. Cummings stated that he felt it was a great idea and that it would give a great learning experience
and use as an example for other areas.
Motion by Ms. Flinn, seconded by Ms. Amrein, approving the boardwalk trail concept and approving
that Ms. Eckles to work with Mr. Russell and further develop the plans for the trail. All in favor.
Discussion of City Wide Trail Plan.
Mr. Russell stated that the City needs a more detailed and comprehensive trail plan. As a summer
project for the Tim Morris, planning intern, would be the inventory of trails in the City, what the City
has in its plan, looking at the trails closely for standards and functions, and developing the
comprehensive plan for trails.
Ms. Amrein stated that the trail along the river should be expanded. Mr. Russell stated that as part of the
bridge construction and the Aiple property plan there would be a trail constructed on the south boundary
of Stillwater that will tie into a trail in Oak Park Heights and Lowell Park, but to the north there is
nothing planned. Mr. Russell mentioned sidewalks that reach a destination such as the Croixwood area
to downtown.
Motion by Mr. Cummings, seconded by Ms. Amrein authorizing the Planning Department to proceed
with the comprehensive trail inventory and to report back to the commission with the findings. All in
favor.
Discussion of Boutwell Cemetery and Public Works Yard.
Mr. Russell reviewed the letter from the Washington County Historical Society regarding the
availability of land located on Boutwell Road. He provided a synopsis of possible use for land next to
this property for park and the public works facility.
Mr. Cummings stated that one ofthe issues and part ofthe City Council motion was to look at the comer
piece and perhaps include it in this concept.
Mr. Eckles stated that this property is one ofthe last large parcels for the public works and park
development.
Request From David Rochlin To Sell Glow Necklaces On The 4th Of July.
Mr. Peterson stated that this request has been approved by the commission for many years.
Motion by Mr. Junker, seconded by Mr. Cummings approving David Rochlin to sell glow necklaces on
the 4th of July.
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Old Business:
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Update On Ordinance Enabling Park and Recreation Commission.
This item was tabled until the June 26, 2000 meeting.
Update On Legends Park Plan Alternatives.
Mr. Russell reviewed the plans for Legends Park. It was stated that it would be presented to the
neighborhood for comment.
Update On Disc Golf Course Improvements.
Mr. Cummings gave a review and showed pictures on the installation ofthe disc golf that was done on
Saturday, May 20,2000. The goals will be installed this week and will have 12 holes open for Memorial
Day weekend. There is some wetland issues for the remaining holes. The issue the park board will have
to decide, once the information from Bonestroo on the wetlands issue is received, is what the board
wants to do with the with the southeast corner ofthe property. He stated that he would be writing a
story for the Gazette to inform people it is open.
Mr. Eckles stated that there are a few items that will be completed this week to provide 12 holes, but
will be open Memorial Weekend.
Other Items
. Mr. Junker stated that there have been vehicles, tents and campers in Kolliner Park and asked staff to
investigate.
June 26, 2000 will be the park tour, meet at 6:00 at City Hall. Places to tour would be the disc golf area,
Browns Creek area, Settlers Park, Public Works site basically the western side of the City. There will be
a barbecue after the tour. The commission asked that Nile arrange for this. It will be determined ifthere
will be an actual meeting on the 26th.
Adjournment
Motion by Mr. Wolff, seconded by Mr. Junker to adjourn the meeting at 9:55 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Diane Ward
Administrative/Communications Specialist
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MEMORANDUM
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TO: Park and Rec. Commission
FR: City Administrator
RE: Price quotes for residing
Lily Lake Arena and for installing
sound systems for Rec. Center
DA: June 22, 2000
Discussion:
Accompanying this memo is:
1. A quote for installing new siding on the Lily Lake Arena by Peterson Pole Buildings
ata cost of $7,325.00; and
2. A quote for installing a sound system at the second sheet and "re-doing" the sound
system at main ice sheet at the Rec. Center by DMX as follows:
A. Main sheet = $15,111.35
B. Second Sheet = $4,461.24.
. Doug Brady will be at the meeting to further explain the proposed work.
Recommendation:
Commission approve residing of Lily Lake and installation of sound system at Rec. Center, as
proposed.
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June 6, 2000
Dear Legends Residents:
Attached are the results of your selection of a park name and which concept you over all
preferred. It will be named Legends Park and Concept A will be designed. Installation
of the play area will begin this year. The entire project will be completed within 2-3
years.
Thank you for your help. We hope you enjoy the park.
Sincerely,
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Tim Thomsen
Public Works Superintendent
Enclosure
CITY HAll: 216 NORTH FOURTH STillWATER, MINNESOTA 55082 PHONE: 651-430-8800
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_Legends Gardens
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-LDiscovery Park
_Sunshine Park
_The Lumber Yard
_The Real Time Play Area
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-LNew Millenium Park
_Heritage Park
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