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CITY OF STILLWATER
STILLWATER PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
NOTICE OF MEETING
Monday, December 17, 2007 AT 7:00 PM
The City of Stillwater Parks and Recreation Commission will meet on Monday, December 17, 2007, at 7 p.m. in
the Council Chambers of Stillwater City Hall, 216 North Fourth Street.
AGENDA
1. Approval of the October 22, 2007 Minutes
Action Items
2. Northland Park Ice Rink Agreement
3. Board of Water Commissioners request to explore placing a Wellhouse at Legends Park
4. Consider a request from Christopher Stanton of St. Croix Valley Baseball Association
5. Brown's Creek Park Ski Trails
6. Motion Picture Production Permits
Informational Items
7. Discussion on Boom Site
8. Update on Ice Rinks
9. Other Items
Following the meeting park board members will be gathering for a holiday social at the home of Linda Amrein
located at 307 Laurel St N. No business will be conduced during this function.
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City of Stillwater
Parks and Recreation Board
October 22, 2007
Present: Linda Amrein, Chair, David Brandt, Rob McGarry, Adam Nyberg, and Sandy Snellman
Staff present: Planner Mike Pogge
Others present: Yvonne Klinnert, Courier News, and a number of Stillwater Area High School
government class students.
Absent: Scott Christensen and Cathy Sewilo
Ms. Amrein called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Ms. Amrein noted a typographical error on page 3 of the previous month's
minutes, "cold" instead of "could", and Mr. Brandt pointed out a misspelling of his name on page
2. Mr. Brandt, seconded by Ms. Snellman, moved approval of the minutes of Sept. 24, 2007, as
corrected. Motion passed unanimously.
Neighborhood Meeting
Discussion of ice rink at Benson Park - Mr. Pogge noted the City had received several requests
to expand the skating area at Benson Park. He said staff had identified three potential locations,
behind the Water Department pump house (A), east of the gazebo (B), and an area by the sand
volleyball court (C). He stated the locations behind the pump house and near the gazebo both
could accommodate a rink 85' x 110', about half the size of a regulation hockey rink; the area by
the volleyball court would be smaller, about 65' by 85'. He stated there would be some
disruption at all three sites, whether due to the need to relocate trees or posts; all of the sites
will require some grading, he noted. He also pointed out that the quality of the grass will be
affected by winter flooding. Shawn Sanders of the Public Works Department reviewed some of
the pros and cons of each of the three sites.
Ms. Amrein opened the meeting to public comment.
Rich Friedrich, 1398 Benson Blvd. E., asked about site A setbacks from neighboring property
owners. Mr. Pogge stated that Rick Larson, 1549 Highland Court, the nearest neighbor, was OK
with a rink at that location, and, in fact, would like to see a rink there. Mr. Friedrich asked if there
would be a curfew for use of the rink. Mr. Sanders stated that all City parks close at 10 p.m. Mr.
Friedrich stated his preference for site A.
Bob Bugbee, 1427 Lydia Circle, and a Hockey Association board member, spoke of the
possibility of using the softball/soccer field for the rink area. He pointed out that a rink in that
location could be in the center of the park, the area is flat and wouldn't involve disruption of any
trees, and it would enable a regulation size rink. He spoke of the possibility of the Hockey
Association cooperating in providing boards. He also pointed out that the City of Lake Elmo has
been flooding Lions Park in the winter for 30 years and is able to have the grass recover
sufficiently for softball/baseball use in the summer. He stated that if use of the softball field isn't
an option, site A would be a suitable location. Mr. Friedrich stated if grass is the issue that would
preclude consideration of the use of the softball field, that is a non-issue - there is no grass
there now. Mr. Pogge pointed out that if the Board was to consider using the soccer/softball
field, another meeting would have to be scheduled and neighbors re-noticed.
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Brent Voight, 1535 Highland Court, who lives in close proximity to site A, said he would be OK
with a rink there as long as there are no lights and no boards. He questioned whether having a
skating area at site A would affect any of the grass sprinkler heads. He said he thought site B
would be better as it is not used as much in the summer. He also stated two other neighbors,
Dave Wolf, 1513 Highland Court, and Mr. Larson were OK with site A as long as there are no
lights.
Later in the discussion, an unidentified resident of the Benson neighborhood raised a safety
issue regarding kids sliding in the park and whether they might slide onto the skating area at site
A. I
During discussion at the Board level, Mr. Brandt spoke in favor of site A. He said neighbors
want an area for kids to skate, where they won't be kicked off by hockey sticks and pucks. He
suggested trying site A and see what happens. Mr. Nyberg expressed a concern about the
number of neighbors in close proximity to site A who might be impacted by the use; he spoke in
favor of site B where there are fewer neighbors who might be impacted. Mr. Pogge noted no
concerns have been raised by folks living near site A, and Ms. Snellman pointed out that all the
affected property owners received notice of this meeting. Ms. Amrein said her first reaction was
that maybe site A was too close to neighboring houses. Ms. Snell man spoke in favor of trying to
flood a rink at site A, without expending a lot of staff time/money. Mr. Sanders reiterated that
some grading will be required at any of the sites.
Mr. McGarry noted that there will be maintenance issues should the softball/soccer field be
flooded and the fields be left potentially unusable. He also pointed out that there will be issues
regarding hockey/open skate regardless of the selected site, and he spoke of the uncertainty of
weather. Mr. McGarry spoke in favor of utilizing the site that will require the least amount of
work and still provide a good sized ice surface. Mr. Sanders pointed out that while there are
some drainage issues with site B, it is in close proximity to the road and gazebo which skaters
might be able to use for resting/tying skates, etc. Mr. Sanders also stated that he thought the
trees at site B could be transplanted successfully. Mr. McGarry moved to direct staff to look at
site B for the skating area, with the largest ice sheet that can be accommodated at that location.
Ms. Amrein seconded the motion. Mr. Bugbee referred to the concern about the impact on grass
and questioned whether it would be pleasing to have an area of mud at the front of the park. Mr.
Friedrich spoke of the cost involved in transplanting trees, given the short skating season. Mr.
Brandt expressed a concern about drainage at site B, and the potential that silt fences might be
required. Mr. Brandt also pointed out that site A is in an underutilized portion of the park. Mr.
McGarry withdrew his motion, and Ms. Amrein agreed to withdraw her second.
Mr. McGarry moved to direct staff to look at site A for the skating area, with the largest ice sheet
that location can accommodate, and to come back to the Board with any problems that might be
encountered. Ms. Snellman seconded the motion. Motion passed 4-1, with Mr. Nyberg voting
no.
Action Items
· Baseball Association request to install a scoreboard at the Public Works baseball field -
Mr. Pogge stated the Baseball Association has received a $5,000 donation from a local
business that the Association is proposing to use for the installation of a permanent
scoreboard and other improvements at the Public Works baseball field. Mr. Pogge stated
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staff's biggest concern is with maintenance, and the Baseball Association understands
that the Association will be responsible for ongoing maintenance. Ms. Amrein noted that
this money is over and above the money allocated to the Baseball Association by the
City Council. Mr. Nyberg wondered whether there weren't more beneficial improvements
that could be made. Mr. Pogge pointed out that the Baseball Association had made
improvements including the installation of dugouts, safety capping for the fencing and
windscreen using City funds. There was a discussion about whether advertising should
be allowed on the scoreboard. Members felt generic messages would be OK, but not
advertising for specific businesses. Ms. Amrein moved to authorize the Baseball
Association to install a permanent scoreboard at the Public Works field, with the Park
Board or City Council to give final approval to the scoreboard, especially in regard to
potential advertising, and with the understanding that the Baseball Association is
responsible for maintenance of the scoreboard. Ms. Snellman seconded the motion;
motion passed unanimously.
· Special event permit for the Greater Stillwater Chamber of Commerce to use Lowell
Park for the 2008 Spring Art Fair and special event permit for the Greater Stillwater
Chamber for use of Lowell Park for the 2008 Fall Colors Fine Art and Jazz Festival - Mr.
Pogge pointed out that the agreement for use of Lowell Park is exactly the same as the
agreement for the 2007 events. Mr. Pogge pointed out there is a possibility that the
events, especially the fall event, might have to be relocated should the levee project
commence next year, and he said the Chamber is aware of that possibility. Ms. Amrein
noted a typographical error in the agenda packet introduction of the request that stated
the fall event would take place in the "south" portion of Lowell Park; Mr. Pogge stated
that was an error, the event will take place in the north portion of the park, as it did this
year. Mr. Brandt, seconded by Ms. Snellman, moved to recommend Council approval of
the agreements with the Chamber for use of Lowell Park for both the fall and spring art
fairs in 2008. Motion passed unanimously.
Informational Items
Mr. Pogge stated staff had received a lot of calls regarding the possibility of developing a dog
park after the recent newspaper article. He stated calls were about evenly split regarding the
possibility. He stated neighbors near the Brown's Creek Reserve Park do not want a park
located there. Mr. Sanders explained that dog parks are not necessarily fenced in, but are
buffered from neighboring residential areas by trails and walks. Mr. Pogge stated a
neighborhood meeting regarding a dog park will be scheduled after the first of the year.
Ms. Amrein raised the issue of basketball at Staples Field. Mr. Pogge suggested that one option
for reintroducing basketball would be for the City to purchase a couple of parcels that are
immediately adjacent to the park. It was consensus that at this point, there is nothing the Park
Board wishes to do regarding that issue.
Mr. McGarry, seconded by Ms. Snell man, moved to adjourn at 8:15 pm. Motion passed
unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker, Recording Secretary
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Parks and Recreation Commission
DATE:
December 12, 2007
ITEM:
Northland Park Ice Rink Agreement
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION DATE:
December 17, 2007
PREPARED BY: Michel Pogge, City Planner lhafJ
DISCUSSION
Attached is an agreement between the City of Stillwater and Northland Rink
Association. Under this agreement Northland Rink Association, which is an arm of
Stillwater Area Hockey Association, will clear light snow and supervise the warming
house at the rink. The City will continue to flood the rink and remove larger snow falls.
In exchange for their work at the rink the City agrees to allow the Association to have
exclusive use of the rink three nights a week (Tuesday, Wednesday, and a third night of
their choosing). This agreement is similar to one the City entered into with the group in
2006.
This agreement has been mutually beneficial to both parties and staff recommends that
we continue this relationship.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Recommend that the City Council approve the above special event applications.
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CONTRACT
THIS AGREEMENT, made ,2007, between the CITY OF STILLWATER, a
municipal corporation within the County of Washington, State of Minnesota, mailing address of
216 North Fourth Street, Stillwater, Minnesota 55082 ("City") and Northland Rink Association,
Inc. ("Contractor").
SECTION ONE
SERVICES TO BE PROVIDED
Contractor will provide the City of Stillwater incidental snow removal and maintenance
and warming house supervision at the City skating rink at Northland Park. City forces with
machinery will continue flooding and primary snow removal.
SECTION TWO
EXCLUSIVE USE
The Contractor will have exclusive right to use the hockey rink on Tuesday and
Wednesday starting at 5:30 p.m. until 9:00 p.m. and one additional day starting at 5:30 p.m. until
9:00 p.m. to be designated by the Contractor. The rink must be closed and lights off at 9:00 p.m.
on each day. A key to the warming house will be made available to the Contractor and the
Contractor will have the responsibility to secure the warming house at closing.
SECTION THREE
TERM AND TERMINATION
The term of this Contract will commence on December 19, 2007. Either party may
terminate this Contract at any time and for any reason without any liability to the other.
SECTION FOUR
COMPENSATION
No compensation will be paid by the City to the Contractor.
SECTION FIVE
QUALIFIED PERSONNEL
Contractor promises that only authorized persons may be assigned to perform the work.
SECTION SIX
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN PARTIES
The Contractor or any agent or employee of the Contractor is not an employee of the City
and is not entitled to the benefits provided by the City to its employees.
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SECTION SEVEN
WORK STANDARDS
Contractor will control the conduct and means of performing the work and will perform
all services required under this Contract in a manner consistent with generally accepted
procedures and will comply with Minnesota and Federal laws and not discriminate based upon
gender, race or age.
SECTION EIGHT
INDEMNITY
The Contractor will be responsible for any damages incurred in connection with services
under this Contract and as security for this promise the Contractor will make a security deposit of
$500.00. Contractor will not be liable for failure to provide or delays in providing services. The
Contractor agrees that it will defend, indemnify and hold harmless the City from any liability,
loss, damages or costs that are the fault of the Contractor and that grow out of the services, it or
its designated personnel provide under this Contract.
SECTION NINE
TERMS TO BE EXCLUSIVE
The entire Agreement between the parties with respect to the subject matter hereunder is
contained in this Agreement. Except as herein expressly provided to the contrary, the provisions
of this Agreement are for the benefit of the parties solely and not for the benefit of any other
person, persons or legal entities.
SECTION TEN
WAIVER OR MODIFICATION INEFFECTIVE UNLESS IN WRITING
No waiver, alteration or mod!pcation of any of the provisions of this Agreement will be
binding unless in writing and signed by a duly authorized representative of both parties to this
Agreement.
SECTION ELEVEN
NO ASSIGNMENT WITHOUT CONSENT
Contractor will not assign this Contract nor any ofthe rights and duties hereunder without
the prior written consent of the City.
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SECTION TWELVE
GOVERNING LAW
This Agreement is governed by the laws of the State of Minnesota.
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CITY OF STILLWATER
Ken Harycki, Mayor
ATTEST
Diane F. Ward, Clerk
NORTHLAND RINK ASSOCIATION, INe.
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Approved by City Council - Resolution No.
Dated:
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Parks and Recreation Commission
DATE:
December 11, 2007
ITEM:
Consider request from the Stillwater Water Board to place a well and
pump house on the Legends Park at Deland Way and Baron Way.
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION DATE:
December 17, 2007
PREPARED BY:
Michel Pogge, City Planner 1/1111>
DISCUSSION
On July 23, 2007 staff presented information on a request from the Stillwater Board of Water
Commissioners to explore placing a water pump house at Legends Park. This site would
provide water serve to the southwest corner of the community. Based on comments from the
Park Commission the Water Board has prepared the attached memo in hopes of addressing the
Park Commissions concerns. Representative from the Water Board will be at the meeting to
discuss this request.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Review and make a recommendation to the City CounciL
Attachments:
Memo from the Stillwater Board of Water Commissioners
Excerpt from the July 23,2007 minutes
City of Stillwater
Parks and Recreation Board
July 23, 2007
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Present: Rob McGarry, vice chair
David Brandt, Paul Donna, Adam Nyberg, Cathy Sewilo, Sandy Snellman
Absent: Linda Amrein
Mr. McGarry called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Ms Snell man moved approval of the minutes of June 25, 2007. Ms.
Sewilo seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
Action Items
Request to place a well and pump house at Leqends Park - Mr. Pogge reviewed the
request from the Water Board to place a well and pump house in Legends Park. He
noted the Water Board has been looking for a site in the southwest quadrant of the City
for some time. He also pointed out the AUAR prohibits the siting of a well north of Myrtle
Street due to potential impact on Brown's Creek, which further limits potential sites. Mr.
Pogge noted that there is a 16" water main in close proximity to Legends Park so
additional infrastructure improvements would not be needed should this site be utilized.
He stated the pump house would be similar to the one in the liberty development. He
pointed out there would need to be access to the pump house, which increases the
impact on the site.
Mr. Nyberg expressed a concern about the impact of the building. Mr. Pogge pointed out
that the structure can be designed to look like a house, and he said there are pump
houses located throughout town that most people don't even identify as a pump house.
Mr. Pogge also pointed out that setbacks and location of park equipment restricts the
placement of the pump house. Mr. Nyberg suggested moving the pump house to a
location southwest of the play equipment or relocating the volleyball court. Ms. Snellman
asked if there were other site options. Mr. Pogge stated there are few options without
having to purchase land. Ms. Snell man noted the Legends Park has had previous
problems and now to put a building in the park doesn't seem like the right thing to do to
residents. Other members agreed with Ms. Snell man's comment. Mr. Pogge pointed out
that a pump house does need to be on line by next summer. Mr. McGarry asked whether
the Water Board might consider making some park improvements; Mr. Pogge said he
thought the Water Board would be willing to consider park improvements recommended
by the Park Board or provide some funding for improvements in other parks. Mr.
McGarry suggested the only way the Park Board would consider using up parkland
would be getting some improvements in exchange.
Mr. Pogge suggested that considering the resistance being expressed by members he
go back to the Water Board and see what alternatives, if any, there are. If the request
comes up again, Mr. Pogge said he would ask the Water Board for a more concrete
proposal regarding design, location and other details, including what improvements the
Water Board might be willing to make to the park. Mr. McGarry summed up the Board's
position as being reluctant to give up parkland at this time, but willing to work with the
Water Board if this is the only alternative. Mr. McGarry noted that the Water Board had
been very cooperative in participating with the City in making improvements at the pump
house site in Liberty.
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BOARD OF WATER COMMISSIONERS
204 North Third Street
P.O. Box 242
Stillwater, MN 55082-0242
Phone: 651-439-6231 . FAX: 651-439-4061
November 26,2007
Park Board Chairman and Members
City of Stillwater
216 North 4th Street
Stillwater, Minnesota 55082-4807
Re: Placement of Well No. 12 and
Wellhouse No. 12 in Legends Park
TKDA Project No. 13570.001
Dear Park Board Members:
The Stillwater Board of Water Commissioners has actively been looking for a site for
Well No. 12 which will be used to provide additional water supply to Western and
Northern sections of Stillwater. Due to influence of ground water withdrawal on Browns
Creek, the future well must be located south of County Road 12 (75th Street) and east of
Manning A venue.
The Board's Engineer and staff have visited Legends Park in order to determine the
impact of placing Well No. 12 and Wellhouse No. 12 in the park. From their review of
the present park layout and use, it appears that Well No. 12 could be located just
southwest of Baron Way, between the sidewalk and the valley ball court, with minimum
impact to the park.
In 1999, the Board of Water Commissioner's worked with the City of Stillwater and the
developer to construct Well No. 11 and Booster Station adjacent to Settlers Park and to
construct a new 1.5 million gallon reservoir in Settlers Park.
The shared use of Settlers Park land allowed the Board to construct their reservoir in park
land and allowed them to include several improvements to enhance Settlers Park. To my
knowledge, the joint use of this park land has operated well and without any incidents.
The Water Board has recently discussed and agreed to fund park enhancements to
Legends Park for the use of a small portion of the park land for Well No. 12 and
Well house No. 12. Park enhancements or improvements which the Board of Water
Commissioners would be willing to fund would be in the range of $80,000 to $90,000.
The Board's practice is to construct wellhouses which will blend with and compliment
the surrounding area. The design and construction of Well house No. 12 could also
incorporate park facilities if desired by the Park Board.
The Board of Water Commissioner's staff and engineer would welcome the opportunity
to discuss the placement of Well No. 12 in Legends Park at your December 17,2007,
Park Board meeting. We believe the joint use of the park land would be beneficial for the
residents of Stillwater.
I have enclosed a site map which shows a tentative well location in Legends Park and
several projects sheets related to the prior Settlers Park project.
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oard of Water Commissioners
WELLHOUSE NO. 11 AND BOOSTER STATION
SETTLERS PARK RESERVOIR
STILLWATER, MN
The Stillwater Board of Commissioners selected TKDA to provide design and construction-
related services for the new water supply system located in the annexation area. The $2
Million Project includes a new well, 1.S-MG (Dual Wall) ground storage reservoir, and
combined well house and booster station.
Rather than construction of an elevated tower in this area, the Board utilized ground storage
to receive the well supply and booster pumps to deliver water to the existing elevated system.
The booster station includes a natural gas generator which provides firm pumping capacity
and the reservoir includes two tennis courts that serves as an addition for the neighborhood
park.
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Mr. Robert Benson
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Stillwater Board 01 Water Commissioners
204 North Third Street
Stillwater, MN 55082
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Park and Recreation Commission
DATE:
December 12, 2007
ITEM:
Consider a request for funding from St. Croix Valley Baseball Association
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION DATE: December 17,2007
PREPARED BY: Michel Pogge, City Planner ~
DISCUSSION
Attached is information from the St. Croix Valley Baseball Association on a request for
capital improvements to the Public Work Baseball Association. As the Commission will
recall, the City Council approved providing $4,500.00 in 2007 for improvements to the
ball fields. Unused funds remaining in 2007 will be carried over and can be used by the
group for capital improvements to the field in 2008.
In the group's proposal they are requesting the following items in 2008:
Sprinkler System
Warmup/Hitting Cage
Foul Pole
Bleachers
Flagpole and flag
Expand infield
TOTAL
Lights
TOTAL WITH LIGHTS
$3,500.00
$3,000.00
$1,000.00
$9,000.00
$546.98
$500.00
$17,546.98
$110,000
$127,546.98
For reference, the City Council typically allocates $75,000 for capital park
improvements, excluding new park development.
On April 23, 2007, the Park Commission recommended to the Council that the full 2007
request in the amount of $22,578.76 be funded by the City. On June 19, 2007 the City
Council considered the request and decided to only allocate $4,500.00 in funding out of
the 2007 capital park improvement account. Staff also recommended that the council
allocate $6,000.00 in 2008 and an additional $12,150 in 2009; however, the Council
declined and stated that the association should submit requests annually for
St. Croix Valley Baseball Association
December 13, 2007
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consideration. At that meeting the Council also indicated that they did not what a
warmup/hitting cage on the site.
Finally, when this site was originally developed in 2002 the City committed to the
existing property owners surrounding the site that field lights would never be installed
at this site. For that reason, staff would recommend that this field not be lit now or in
the future.
Staff Recommendation
Review and consider making a recommendation to the City Council regarding the
capital request and related to lighting the baseball field.
ST. CROIX VALLEY BASEBALL ASSOCIATION
RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE STILLWATER CITY COUNCIL ON
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PUBLIC WORKS BASEBALL FIELD AND
OTHER YOUTH BASEBALL FIELDS IN STILL WATER
Recommendations to be presented to the Stillwater City Council in December, 2007
St. Croix Vallev Baseball Board Members:
Rocky Rooney- President
Bylaws and Administration,
Agendas, Scheduling of Fields
(651) - 436-6805 h
(952) - 887-3198 w
(612) - 751-8922 c
Tom Clark- Director
Fundraising
(651) - 430-2338 h
(651) - 248-8820 c
Brian Albertson - Director at
Lan~e
Coaches Committee, Field
Improvements
(651) - 430-0853 h
Wayne Peterson
Uniforms and Equipment
(651)-342-0525 h
(651) -755-5191 c
Tom Hauge
Age Group Coordinator,
Travel Director
Rickv Michel-Treasurer
EquipmentlUniforms
Coordinator
Lake Elmo and V AA Laison
651 - 439-4936 h
Don "Skippy" Stoltz- Director
Uniforms
(651) - 430-1042 h
(651) - 492-5937 c
Bill Anderson- Secretary
Communications
(612) - 819-9204 c
(651) - 351-7003 w
(651) - 351-5192 h
Bill Ricci- Director
Fundraising
Tryouts Coordinator
(651) - 351-7471 h
Dave Rydeen- Director at Lan~e Chris Stanton- Director
Chair, Coaches Committee, at Lan~e
Tryouts Fundraising Committee,
Player Rules, Coaches Conduct, Field Improvements
Tournament Review (651) - 275-0853 h
(651) - 436-8770 h
Ted Collins Don Leick
Tryouts, Age Group Coordintor Tryouts, Fundraising
(651) - 351- 0312 h (651) - 433-5171 h
(651) -746-4943 c
MISSION STATEMENT
The mission for Saint Croix Valley Baseball Association is to promote and develop the growth
of quality amateur baseball in the St Croix Valley. The organization will promote the principles
of sportsmanship, honesty, loyalty, courage and respect for others and acquire, own, and provide
sports facilities, fields, equipment and supplies for the baseball program. Saint Croix Valley
Baseball Association will compete in the Metro Baseball League bringing additional competitive
opportunities to players in the Valley
The Saint Croix Valley Baseball Association Board has roughly 15-20 meetings throughout the
year to review the current conditions of the baseball facilities in the Valley, discuss options in
improving the available baseball facilities, discuss and incorporate public input received and
develop recommendations for reaching our goals.
RECOMMENDATIONS MADE TO CITY COUNCIL FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS
BASEBALL FIELD ON JUNE 19. 2007:
1. Acquire and install a 25 ft. flagpole for outside the centerfield fence;
Status: Not done
2. Acquire and install Fence Cap for outfield fences;
Status: Money allocated by the City Council on June 19, 2007 being used to
purchase fence cap next spring;
3. Paint the foul pole yellow to match fence cap;
Status: Not done;
4. Paint foul line from edge of infield to the outfield fence;
Status: Was done last spring by City;
5. Acquire and install a windscreen on outfield fences;
Status: Money allocated by the City Council on June 19, 2007 being used to
purchase the windscreen next spring;
6. Install bleachers for the spectators;
Status: Money allocated by the City Council on June 19, 2007 being used to
purchase a small set of bleachers for behind the backstop next spring;
7. Install a cement foundation for bench area;
Status: Completed. Brian Albertson from Albertson Construction donated
time, skill and materials to construct the foundation.
8. Build a covered dugout for the players in the bench area;
Status: Completed. Brian Albertson from Albertson Construction and other
youth baseball supporters from St. Croix Valley Baseball Association donated
their time and skill to construct the dugout. The St. Croix Valley Association
has donated several thousand dollars to purchase the materials for the dugout.
9. Build a bullpen and warmup area for players;
Status: Not done
10. Install an electronic scoreboard;
Status: A private donation made by St. Croix Valley baseball supporter Thomas
Sagissor has contributed $5,000.00 to the City of Stillwater for purposes of
installing an electronic scoreboard next spring.
2008 RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS BASEBALL FIELD:
1.
Allow a concession stand, sign and scoreboard sponsorships to supplement the
costs of field improvements to the public works field;
2.
Expand the infield to accommodate 75 foot baseball paths and 52 foot pitchers
mound;
3.
Install a sprinkler system to water the field;
4.
Build a bullpen and warmup area for players
5.
Acquire a new visually pleasant yellow foul pole to match fence cap;
6.
Install additional bleachers for the spectators;
7. Acquire and install a 25 ft. flagpole for outside the centerfield fence;
8. Install lights to accommodate expanding number of kids and greater number of
games:
ALLOW A CONCESSION STAND. SIGN AND SCOREBOARD SPONSORSHIPS TO
SUPPLEMENT THE COSTS OF FIELD IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PUBLIC WORKS
FIELD:
. A concession stand (similar to what is in Lake Elmo) run by St. Croix Valley Baseball
volunteers will make the field more appealing to come to on a hot summer day;
. In addition, a concession stand will provide additional revenue to the city for maintaining
the Public Works Field.
. Allowing sign and scoreboard sponsorships will provide several thousand dollars to the
city to upkeep and improve the Public Works Field;
EXPAND THE INFIELD TO ACCOMMODATE 75 FOOT BASEBALL PATHS and 52
FOOT PITCHERS MOUND
. Bids range from $200.00-$500.00;
. Currently, the infield is set for play by 10 and 11 year olds only. If we expand the infield
12 year olds will also have the opportunity to play on the field;
. Given our lack of playable fields in the community, it is important to have as many age
groups as possible play at the public works field;
INSTALL A UNDERGROUND SPRINKLER SYSTEM TO WATER THE FIELD
. Bids range from $1,000.00-$1,500.00;
. Currently, the infield and outfield is rock hard and dangerous to play upon. Baseballs
bounce in unpredictable directions at tremendous speed because the outfield grass is hard
spotty and inconsistent.
. A sprinkler system will allow the city to better maintain the playing field;
BUILD A WARMUP AREA AND HITTING CAGE
. Bids range from $2,500.00-$3,000.00;
. Brian Albertson from our board will provide labor free of charge;
. Currently there is no area to warmup or to take batting practice;
. Installing a warmup and hitting area will allow our players to warm up without
endangering other people at the field;
ACQUIRE A VISUALLY PLEASANT FOUL POLE TO MATCH FENCE CAP.
. Approximately $900.00-$1,100;
. Yellow foul poles will stand 15' to 20' high along the foul lines make the field look much
better than the dingy graying foul poles currently in place;
ACQUIRE AND INSTALL ADDITIONAL BLEACHERS FOR THE FANS
. Bids range from $8,500.00-$10,000.00;
. Currently there is no place for grandparents, parents and siblings of the players to sit;
. Currently many fans sit in the open down the lines in the grass and may get struck by a
ball;
. Bleachers will give them a place to sit behind a screen thus enhancing their safety;
ACQUIRE AND INSTALL A 25 FT. FLAGPOLE FOR OUTSIDE THE CENTERFIELD
FENCE
. Bids range from $546.98 to $1795.95; (See Attached)
. Flagpoles and the flags attached to them provide a sense of pride in our community and
are visually appealing.
INSTALL LIGHTS TO ACCOMMODATE THE EXPANDING NUMBER OF KID AND
GREATER NUMBER OF GAMES
. Mike Pogge found the cost of lights to be in the neighborhood of$110,000.00.
. Given our lack of playable fields in the community, it is important to have as many age
groups as possible play at the public works field. lnorder to accommodate the number of
games, it is important that weekday games occasionally include an 8:00 p.m. start. Lights
would be on from 9:00-10:30;
RECOMMENDATIONS FOR OTHER YOUTH BASEBALL FIELDS:
1. Reacquire or lease the Jaycee fields from the school district;
2. With the help of the St. Croix Valley Baseball Association, significantly
upgrade the conditions of the Jaycee fields;
3. Establish a long term plan to build a baseball complex that the city of
Stillwater can be proud to call home.
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Park and Recreation Commission
DATE:
December 12, 2007
ITEM:
Brown's Creek Reserve
PARK AND RECREATION COMMISSION DATE:
December 17, 2007
PREPARED BY:
Michel Pogge, City Planner IU~
DISCUSSION
Mr. Charles Corcoran has contact staff concerning the condition of the Brown's Creek
Reserve Ski Trails. At issue is the use of the groomed ski trails by hikers, joggers,
walkers, and dog walkers. This has been an ongoing issue on Brown's Creek Reserve
Ski Trails. Attached is information from previous Park Commission meeting on this
Issue.
When hikers, joggers, walkers, and dog walkers two main problems occur:
1. Pedestrians destroy the surface of the groomed surface, which is prepared
by volunteers.
2. Any excrement left by dogs can cause skiers to abruptly stop which is a
hazard to skiers.
Following the City's general policy that all park sites are open to all individuals, the
City has not prohibited pedestrians and pets on the site. The City has placed signs on
the site that asks individuals to use the left side of the site and to clean up after pets.
Staff walked portions of the trail and it is evident that these signs are simply being
ignored. Pedestrians are utilizing the entire groomed trail surface. Pet excrement has
been found throughout the trail and has significantly degraded the trail surface.
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How to proceed
There are three possible options on how to proceed.
1. The City could continue to manage the trails in the same manor that we
are today.
2. A trail loop for pedestrians could be established that is separate from the
current ski trail. In the ski trail areas pedestrians and pets would then be
prohibited in the skiing areas between November 15 and March 15 when
there is snow cover. The City would revise and replace signage as
necessary.
3. Totally prohibit pedestrians and pets would then be prohibited in the
skiing areas between November 15 and March 15 when there is snow
cover. Again, the City would replace signage to indicate the new policy.
Each of these options have positive and negative aspects to them. Currently there is a
user group who is grooming the trails with another user group that is in turn
destroying them. If the trails were not groomed it is likely that pedestrians would not
be walking the trails with snow cover in the first place. Finally, the City has always
encouraged the use of its park by all users and has avoided giving one user exclusive use
of a park over another user.
Ultimately, this is a policy issue that staff needs guidance on from the Commission and
Council.
Staff Recommendation
Review and consider making a recommendation to the City Council regarding the
capital request and related to lighting the baseball field.
Michel Po~~e
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Charles Corcoran [charles.p.corcoran@uwrf.edu]
Sunday, December 09,20079:13 PM
Michel pogge
Brown's Creek ski trail use
Mike -- 1 was told by the Park Board Chair that I should share with you my misgivings
about multiple usage of Brown's Creek ski trails.
Quite simply, hikers/joggers/dog walkers are not good for ski trails. I also ski at
Willow River State Park and O'Brien State Park. Both prohibit non-skiers from ski trails
during the ski season when trails are groomed.
Today was a good example in the incompatibility of multiple use on ski trails. Shortly
after I began skiing at 3:20pm, a jogger ran down the middle of the trail that Ed Bieging
and Ralph Hapness just groomed, causing deep ruts. A man with a dog then accessed the
trail from McKusick Road. The dog pooped about 100 meters southeast of the trailhead, in
the middle the trail. A little later, the same dog chased after me, trying to bite my
left ski pole. The dog walker (walking down the middle of the freshly groomed trail) made
no effort to control his unleashed pet. At close to dusk (about 5:00pm), two couples took
a stroll down the middle of the north loop. 1 politely asked them to please walk to the
side. They smiled at me and proceeded in the same manner, keeping their place in the
middle of the trail, severely rutting the trial surface. In fact, on the next loop, I
politely cautioned "skier passing". They refused to yield, making me use the classic
tracks to double pole around them (1 was skate skiing) .
Given all the miles of sidewalks, ravine trails, and other options, why must non-skiers
have access to our little 5 kilometers of groomed ski trails during our precious short ski
season? Besides, most wouldn't even be there if the trails were not groomed for skiers.
One option may be to designate the trail on the south side of railway tracks for hikers
(beginning at the new playground). It could proceed west, cutting diagonally across the
open field, proceeding west through the south side of the woods, then looping back the
same way from the hill just west of the woods. This does give non-skiers access without
the severe trail degradation and traffic incompatibility.
While not everyone would comply with such rules, with proper signage, it would certainly
help.
1 appreciate the Board's consideration of my request. 1 would be happy to speak on behalf
of this proposal, as well.
Sincerely,
Charlie Corcoran
2221 Kallie Ct.
Stillwater, MN 55082
651.275.0657
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City of Stillwater
Parks and Recreation Board
Jan. 23, 2006
Present: Linda Amrein, chair
David Brandt, Paul Donna, Rob McGarry, Wally Milbrandt, Cathy Sewilo,
and Sandy Snellman
Others: Robert Lockyear, interim Community Development Director
Ms. Amrein called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Brandt, seconded by Mr. Milbrandt, moved approval of the
minutes of Dec. 19, 2005, as presented. Motion passed unanimously.
Election of officers - Ms. Amrein suggested that this item be added to the agenda. Ms.
Amrein said she would be willing to continue to serve as chair for the coming year if that
was the desire of the Board. Mr. McGarry moved to have Ms. Amrein continue as chair
for 2006 with himself as vice chair. Ms. Snellman seconded the motion; motion passed
unanimously.
Introduction of Robert Lockyear - Mr. Lockyear introduced himself to the Board and
gave a brief overview of his planning background/experience, including 25 years of
service with Washington County.
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Update on cross country ski area siqnaqe - Mr. Lockyear said the signage, discussed at
the previous meeting, was never installed due to a spelling error on the signs. He said
the error had been corrected and it was his understanding that the signs were installed
earlier on the day of the meeting, Jan. 23. Ms. Amrein said she had talked with the
concerned citizen who brought the issue to the Board's attention and that person was
understanding of the reason for the delay in installation.
Update on the Community Development Director position - Mr. Milbrandt' said the
nominating committee, which includes himself, Councilmember Junker, Administrator
Hansen and Director of Administration Knauss, had selected five finalists for the
position. The finalists will be interviewed the day of Feb. 11. On Feb. 10, he said a
reception would be held with the candidates. Members of the Park Board, Planning
Commission and Heritage Preservation Commission will be invited to the reception. Mr.
Milbrandt asked those Park Board members who could attend the Feb. 19 reception to
do so and provide any input to the nominating committee members for the Feb. 11
interviews. There was a brief discussion as to what type of questions it might be
appropriate to ask of the candidates.
Discussion of capital outlay items for 2006 - Mr. Lockyear stated the City will be
discussing the five-year CIP in March and said he was not prepared to discuss the issue
at the January meeting. Mr. Milbrandt suggested it would be good to have a
recap/discussion of the approved 2006 capital items at the February meeting.
Other items:
1) Mr. Brandt noted that the Board had talked about having a tour of the Teddy Bear
Park facilities. It was pointed out that such a tour would be better scheduled for
,
sometime in the spring. Mr. Lockyear suggested that he might be able to arrange a
personal tour with Mr. Armstrong, park benefactor.
2) Ms. Amrein noted that Mr. Donna, Ms. Snellman and herself had been reappointed
to three-year terms on the Board.
3) Ms. Amrein informed the Board that the City Council had approved the Liberty West
plans with the requirement that an additional lot be dedicated as parkland as
conditioned by the Park Board. Ms. Snellman inquired as to how plans for County
Road 15 improvements might impact the development. Mr. Milbrandt noted that was
an issue between Washington County and the developer.
4) Ms. Amrein told the Board that she had written letters of appreciation, on behalf of
the Board, to Steve Russell and Sue Fitzgerald thanking them for their past work with
the Board, and a letter of congratulations to Klayton Eckles for his department's work
that was instrumental in the City receiving the Community Conservation Award.
5) Mr. McGarry, the Board's representative to the Lumberjack Days advisory
committee, asked for the Board's direction on a request by LJD organizers to use the
southern portion of Lowell Park this year. He said the request is to utilize the parking
area in the south Park for family/children's events. Mr. McGarry said Police Chief
Dauffenbach has indicated a concern about pedestrian traffic that such a use would
involve. Mr. Milbrandt said there is plenty of footprint in the northern portion of the
park where the kids' rides/activities could be located and said he viewed the request
as an expansion of use, something he is opposed to. Mr. Brandt said the location of
kids' activities the last couple of years has not been the most convenient. Ms. Sewilo
said she thought the children's rides/activities should be separated from the adult
uses. Mr. Donna suggested it would be helpful to see a proposed layout and said it
would be difficult to approve the request not knowing the exact location/uses. Mr.
Milbrandt agreed that organizers should be asked to provide a proposed
footprint/map. After discussion, it was agreed that Mr. McGarry should indicate that
the Park Board discussed the request but needs more information before a decision
can be made.
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The meeting was adjourned at 8:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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December 19, 2005
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Dear Ms. Amreing:
I would like the Park Board to consider an ordinance prohibiting
walkers and dogs from walking on groomed ski trails at Brown's
Creek. My rationale:
1. The trails are groomed for skiing, not walking. I assume they
would not be groomed if not for skiers. This grooming
becomes an "attractive nuisance," possibly resulting in more
foot traffic due to snow compaction.
2. Footprints, dog prints and droppings damage the surface,
making skiing difficult. It also causes more rapid trail
degradation. Within hours of grooming, such non-skier usage
begins to negate the value of grooming. If no change is made,
the city may wish to review the efficacy of grooming at all.
3. Walkers have miles of alternatives within the city limits. Skiers
have no alternative in Stillwater. Couple this with our short ski
season, and this accommodation is not unreasonable.
I suggest following the lead of local state parks. Both Willow River
State Park (WI) and William O'Brien State Park (MN) prohibit walkers
and dogs on groomed ski trails during the ski season.
I've spoken to Bill Simpson, coach of Stillwater Nordic Ski Team,
about this. He concurs it's so sad to watch the beautifully groomed
trails (and costly to taxpayers?) degrade so quickly.
I would be happy to speak to the Park Board about this, and I
welcome the opportunity to get on your agenda ASAP.
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Charles Corcoran
2221 Kallie Ct.
Stillwater, MN 55082
651.275.0657
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Charles Corcoran [charles.p.corcoran@uwrf.edu]
Friday, December 16,20057:00 AM
Steve Russell
Brown's Creek
steve -- can you give me direction as to how I would pursue a change in park rules
prohibiting walkers and dogs from using groomed ski trails?
I spoke with Bill Simpson about this and I think I can generate a lot of support from the
local nordic ski community if needed. You groom so well but the trails are trashed so
quickly!
Wm. O'Brien State Park notes the following on their web site, for
example:
Hikers: Ski trails have been packed so no hiking will be allowed on ski trails until after
the ski season. Please use the River Trail or bike trail, both of which are open all
season for hiking, pet walking, snoeshoeing, etc. Thanks for helping us maintain our ski
trails in top-quality condition!
Willow River state Park in Wisconsin has signage stating the same -- no hiking on groomed
ski trails. Something like this make sense -- "Ski trails are groomed for skiing, not
hiking. Please use the .. ..trails for hiking."
Thanks,
Charlie Corcoran
Stillwater resident and skier
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City of Stillwater
Parks and Recreation Board
Dec. 19,2005
Present: Linda Amrein, chair
David Brandt, Wally Milbrandt, Cathy Sewilo and Sandy Snellman
Others: Community Development Director Steve Russell
Absent: Paul Donna and Rob McGarry
Ms. Amrein called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Linda Amrein noted the minutes approved at the Nov. 28 meeting
were those of Oct. 24, as well as a misspelling of Mr. Brandt's name on page 2 of the
Nov. 28 minutes. Mr. Milbrandt, seconded by Ms. Snell man, moved approval of the Nov.
28, 2005, minutes as corrected.
Libertv West park dedication
Mr. Russell reviewed the site. He noted the site will be considered for a Comprehensive
Plan and Zoning amendment to change the land use to Small Lot Single Family/Cottage
Lot Residential, vyhich is consistent with the Liberty designation to the east and south of
the site; there is townhouse development on the north side. There are large oak trees on
the site, which the developer/consultant has put a lot of effort into preserving. A water
feature and extensive trail system are planned. Mr. Russell noted that trails are not
considered as part of park dedication. There is an area of public open space area. He
said the Planning Commission and staff recommended considering one lot as part of the
open space area, which still doesn't meet the 10 percent park dedication requirement
but is more than proposed. Other options, he said, are fees in lieu of park dedication or
finding that because of the character of the project, the whole development with the
preservation of trees, creates a park environment.
Present representing the developer were: Marc Putnam, landscape architect; Roger
Tomten, architect; and Chris Aamodt, developer. Marc Putman reviewed the plans,
focusing on the tree preservation efforts, including expensive retaining walls, the water
feature for stormwater storage and highway noise reduction, trails and other amenities.
He suggested that in this instance, where trees basically are parks, the focus was on
ways to preserve the trees. In some other communities, he said, there is recognition that
it is not just flat, open space that makes for parks. In this case, he said extensive
park/open space features were designed that may not all be in public ownership but
certainly will be available for use by the public. He highlighted trail connections. He also
spoke of County plans for Manning Avenue and the County bike trail.
Ms. Amrein asked about the staff recommendation to require that the lot east of outlot C
be set aside for parks. Mr. Russell said that is staff's recommendation. He said the
Planning Commission considered that condition but deferred to the Parks Board for a
decision. Mr. Russell noted that the house proposed for the lot in question is located
within the drip line of a large tree. Ms. Amrein said the Parks Board has made it a policy
not to include trails and other open space that is not buildable as part of parks
dedication, noting that the Board just abided by that policy in the park dedication
requirements for the Millbrook development. Mr. Putnam asked the Board to consider
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the fact that if trails/paths aren't considered in park dedication, the trails usually aren't
provided. Mr. Russell pointed out that the City has trail dedication requirements in
addition to park dedication. Mr. Milbrandt asked what, if any, of the trails/paths are
private. Mr. Putnam said the intent clearly is that they are available to the public, and
that condition could be written into the covenants. Ms. Snellman spoke in favor of
requiring more open space. Mr. Brandt suggested that with the connection to the Liberty
development, parks in that development will be utilized by these residents as well, and
expressed a concern about an oak tree that could be damaged by construction
equipment. Mr. Milbrandt suggested taking the lot next to C as recommended and
making up the rest of the 10 percent dedication requirement in park dedication fees,
noting that an active park wouldn't be suitable for this area. Chris Aamodt spoke briefly
of the development of the plans to include preservation of the trees and the inclusion of
the water feature. Mr. Putnam asked that in setting a fee in lieu of land, some
consideration be given to the expense of doing the water feature and retaining walls, an
incentive for doing an integral design. Mr. Milbrandt pointed out that the Board could
take four lots from a pure numbers standpoint and destroy the ambience of the
development; he spoke against waiving the fees and setting such a precedent for future
developments.
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Mr. Milbrandt moved to accept the recommendation to require the lot adjoining lot C and
pro-rate the park dedication fee according to that land mass. Mr. Milbrandt noted that
would still preserve the amenities and character of the development and preserve the
two large standing oaks. Ms. Amrein seconded the motion. Ms. Amrein suggested that
the area between the oak trees would be very nice for a public space. Mr. Putnam asked
if they would be able to use the required fee to purchase benches or other equipment.
Members suggested that would be another discussion but the Board might be
amendable to that. Motion to request the dedication of the additional lot east of outlot "C"
and pro-rate the park dedication fee passed unanimously.
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Other items:
A memo was provided related to a concern about dog-walking on the City's groomed ski
trails. There was a brief discussion about the issue. Mr. Milbrandt suggested staff install
some signs regarding using courtesy in using the trails.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:03 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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Parks and Recreation Commission
DATE:
December 11, 2007
ITEM:
Consider possible fees for Motion Picture Production Permit on City
Property
PARKS & RECREATION COMMISSION DATE:
December 17, 2007
PREPARED BY:
Michel Pogge, City Planner ~
DISCUSSION
The City Council requested that the Parks and Recreation Commission consider establishing a
permit fees for motion picture that use City property. Currently, the City typically issues six
permits per year for motion pictures. About half of the permits are issued to student's doing
schoolj college projects. Commercial venture using our property are required to pay for any
extraordinary costs associated with the production such as police and public works assistance.
Beyond covering city cost related to the request the City does not charge any group to use our
property.
There are two possible options that the Commission could consider:
1) Continue to only require that any extraordinary costs incurred by the City be
covered by the permit holder.
2) In addition to covering extraordinary costs, the City could charge commercial
users a permit fee. For example, Washington County currently charges
commercial ventures $500.00 to use the Historic Courthouse for movie
productions.
It is worth noting that the City does receive the benefit of extra recognition each time a
production is done in the community. By charging a permit fee the City would generate
additional revenues that would go to the general fund.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION
Review and make a recommendation to the City Council.
Attachments:
Code Section on Motion Picture Production
Excerpt from the October 30 and November 20,2007 City Council minutes
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STILLWATER CITY COUNCIL
October 30, 2007
Meeting Minutes
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New Business
Possible approval of revised park policies
Council member Polehna asked whether the Park Board had looked at the issue
of commercial use of the parks, for example, using a park for shooting of a
commercial, movie or advertisement; Councilmember Nyberg said he didn't
remember that issue being raised, only discussion of profit vs. not-for-profit
groups. City Administrator Hansen noted that the City does have a separate
ordinance related to motion pictures/commercials; rather than address the issue
haphazardly, he suggested that staff be directed to look into the rates in that
ordinance. Council member Polehna suggested the City will be seeing additional
requests in the future, and those folks should be paying for use of a park facility.
City Attorney Magnuson said he thought the issue should be addressed in the
park policy. It was agreed to refer the issue of commercial use of parks to the
Park Board.
STILLWATER CITY COUNCIL
November 20,2007
Meeting Minutes
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New Business
Movie Permit Ordinance
City Administrator Hansen reviewed the process for issuing a Movie Permit within
the City of Stillwater and that typically he issues approximately six per year. He
informed the Council that about half of the permits issued are to student's doing
school/college project and that any commercial venture is required to pay for any
extraordinary costs associated with the production such as police and public
works assistance. He stated that any Movie Permit for a major movie production
would come before the City Council for approval.
Council member Polehna felt that any commercial venture should be charged a
minimum of $500 for the permit and pay for any extraordinary costs as well.
Mayor Harycki felt that any production done in the City would be a benefit as it
would be portraying Stillwater.
It was the consensus of the Council that the issue should be referred to the Park
& Recreation Commission for their input and recommendation.
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STILLWATER CODE
(3) Conducting business in such a way as to
create a threat to the health, safety, and
welfare of any individual or the general
public.
(4) Conducting business before eight o'clock
in the morning (8:00 a.m.), or after eight
o'clock at night (8:00 p.m.).
(5) Failing to provide proof of registration,
and photo identification, when requested
by resident, law enforcement agency, city
staff or others; or using the registration of
another person.
(6) Making any false or misleading state-
ments about the product or service being
sold, including untrue statements of en-
dorsement. No peddler, solicitor, or tran-
sient merchant shall claim to have the
endorsement ofthe City of Stillwater solely
based on the city having issued a regis-
tration card/license to that person.
(7) Remaining on the property of another
when requested to leave, or to otherwise
conduct business in a manner a reason-
able person would find obscene, threaten-
ing, intimidating, or abusive.
(8) No peddler is permitted to operate at any
location within the public parks ofthe city
except by permit given by the parks board.
Subd. 16. Right to deny. The city council re-
serves the right to deny permission to any peddler
if the number of peddlers in any park or location
will cause congestion, impede, or inconvenience
the public.
Subd. 17. Violations and penalties. Any person
who violates any provision of this section shall be
guilty of a misdemeanor and upon conviction of
any violation shall be subject to a fine not to
exceed $700.00 or a jail sentence not to exceed 90
days, or both, plus the cost of prosecution. Each
day a violation exists shall constitute a separate
violation for the purposes of this section.
(Code 1980, S 41.06; Ord. No. 852, S 1, 11-4-97;
Ord. No. 856, S 1, 4-21-98; Ord. No. 954, S 1,
4-5-05)
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Sec. 41-5. Motion picture production per-
mits.
Subd. 1. Required. No person shall advertise,
engage in, participate in or start any motion
photography production unless a production per-
mit shall first have been obtained from the city. A
motion photography production shall include pro-
fessionally done feature films, television movies
and television commercials.
Subd. 2. Application. Any person seeking the
issuance of a production permit shall file an
application in the office of the city clerk on forms
provided by the city. The applications shall be
filed not more than 180 days before, and not less
than five working days before the commencement
of production. The application shall be signed,
under oath, by an authorized representative of
the applicant. The application shall contain the
following information:
(1) Locations of production.
(2) Duration and type of the production.
(3) Proof of general liability insurance cover-
age in the amount of at least $1,000,000.00
with the city named as an additional
insured.
(4) Proposed use of city resources.
(5) Necessary closures of public streets or
sidewalks.
(6) A person designated as responsible to
fulfill the obligations of the applicant and
authorized to accept service of process by
mail for the applicant in the state.
Subd. 3. Restoration of property. If some or all
of a production is to take place on public or
private property, not at a studio, and the produc-
tion involves the erection oftemporary structures
or temporary modification of an existing structure
or the introduction of an object or substance onto
the property, the applicant for the production
permit shall be required to restore the property to
the condition existing prior to the production. In
addition, the city shall require that the applicant
provide a performance bond in an amount to be
determined by the city, to ensure the restoration.
All restoration work shall be performed by con-
tractors duly licensed by the city.
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LICENSES, PERMITS AND PROHIBITIONS
Subd. 4. Costs for extraordinary services. The
city shall recover direct costs for extraordinary
services rendered in connection with a produc-
tion. Such costs shall include, but not be limited
to, charges for personnel and equipment commit-
ted in support ofthe production which are outside
the normal scope of governmental services. Based
on the information contained in the permit appli-
cation, an estimate of these costs will be provided
to the applicant prior to issuance of the permit. At
the conclusion of the production, actual costs
below or in excess of the estimates will be re-
funded by the city or paid by the applicant,
respectively. The city is under no obligation to
provide city personnel or equipment, and such
shall be provided only if the city council approves.
Subd. 5. Denial or revocation. A permit shall
be denied if the applicant does not meet the
requirements of this section and may be revoked
by action of the city council, after notice and a
hearing upon a finding of noncompliance with
conditions of a permit.
Subd. 6. Temporary permits. Notwithstanding
any provision of this section to the contrary, the
city coordinator is authorized to issue temporary
permits upon such compliance with the terms of
this section as he deems necessary to protect the
safety and welfare of the city.
(Ord. No. 796, 10-18-94)
Sec. 41-6. Regulating towing companies and
requiring licenses therefore.
(1) License required. All individuals, finns or
companies providing police ordered tow truck or
towing services within the City of Stillwater must
have a towing license according to the terms of
this ordinance and any reasonable regulations
adopted by the city council in furtherance thereof.
(2) Issuance. The licenses may be issued by the
city clerk with the advice and consent of the
director of public safety. In order to assist the
director of public safety in their determination of
whether consent should be given, the public safety
director is authorized to conduct criminal back-
ground investigations on all applicants through
the auspices of the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal
Apprehension.
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(3) Fee. The annual fee for each license is
established by resolution of the city council. Li-
censes fees are due on the 1st of January in each
calendar year.
(Ord. No. 866, S 1-3, 10-20-98; Ord. No. 925, S 1,
8-20-02; Ord. No. 962, S 9, 7-5-05)
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Community Development Dep artment
To:
From:
Parks and Recreation Commission
Michel Pogge, City Planner jaif
December 13, 2007
Informational items for the Dec. 17, 2007 Parks Commission meeting
Date:
Re:
Item 7 - Discussion on Boom Site
On November 30 the Department of Natural Resources held a meeting at the Stillwater
Library to discuss the future of the St. Croix Boom Site. Participants included the
National Park Service, MN DOT, MN DNR, Washington County, Stillwater Township,
and the City of Stillwater.
Currently the site is under the control and management of the MN DOT. The MN DOT
spent approximately $50,000 to operate the site in 2007 and was felt to be a reasonable
operational budget moving forward. On or about April 1, 2008 the site will be
transferred to the MN DNR. In the short term the MN DNR has committed to operate
and maintain the site as they look for a long-term solution for the site. There are three
possible long-term operational solutions for the site.
1. The MN DNR could own and operate the site for the long-term. In order
for this to happen they would need additional funds from the legislature
and the site would need to either be designated as a state park or an
auxiliary to an existing park (i.e. an auxiliary to William O'Brien). It
appears that MN DNR has very little interest in this option.
2. Some type of joint partnership between several of the organizations could
be formed. This option would allow the responsibility of operating the
site to be divided among several organizations or one organization. It
could be possible for the City of Stillwater to take control while giving the
township access to our reservation system. Another option would be for
the Township and City to jointly operate it. We have had an individual
step forward who would be interested in picking up the janitorial piece of
the cost for the first year should the property transfer to the city.