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STILLWATER PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
MEETING NOTICE
NOVEMBER 29, 2004
The Stillwater Parks and Recreation Board will meet on Monday, November 29,2004, at
7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers at City Hall, 216 N. 4th Street
AGENDA
1. Approval of September 27,2004 Minutes
2. Northland Hockey RinklWarming House Request, Bob Kaufinan
3. Report on Parks Planning meetings (Sue Fitzgerald report)
a. Schulenburg Park
b. Settlers Glen Park
4. Proposal for Brown's Creek Park Master Plan
5. Outside Skating Areas for 2004-05
6. Other Items
a. CR5/62nd, Curve Crest and Brown's Creek Trail Improvements
b. December meeting
CITY HALL: 216 NORTH FOURTH STILLWATER, MINNESOTA 55082 PHONE: 651-430-8800
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City of Stillwater
Parks and Recreation Board
Sept. 27, 2004
Present: Mike Polehna, chair
Linda Amrein, Dawn Flinn, Gary Kriesel, Rob McGarry and Sandy Snellman
Others: Community Development Director Steve Russell
Absent: Paul Donna
Mr. Polehna called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr. McGarry moved approval of the minutes of Aug. 23,2004. Ms.
Snellman seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
Parks Superintendent's report
Parks Superintendent Tim Thomsen was present. His written report was included in the
agenda packet.
Ms. Flinn asked if she was correct in understanding that all of the playground equipment
at Lily Lake park will be replaced. Mr. Thomsen stated that all of the equipment will be
replaced. Funding is available, and it is likely the equipment will be installed yet this
year.
Ms. Amrein asked if the City has standards for turf installation. Mr. Thomsen said there
are no standards at this time; the intent is to develop such standards in the future. Ms.
Amrein stated there is 10ts of trash in the slopes around Pioneer Park and asked if there
was a possibility of using volunteers for clean up. Mr. Thomsen said he is working with
the Youth Service Bureau on that project. Ms. Amrein asked if the master plan for
Pioneer Park would ever be completed. Mr. Thomsen responded that is dependent on the
availability of funding.
Mr. Kriesel raised the issue of School DistrictN AA use of the city's neighborhood parks
for games, stating he was against that use. Mr. Polehna said he is concerned with the fact
that Mr. Thomsen has had to do all the scheduling of games.
There was a brief discussion of maintenance and condition of trails, especially the trail on
the west side of Long Lake, which has deteriorated because of roots and improper
preparation.
Kolliner Park
Don Empson, Stillwater, was present to update the Board on the possible implications for
the future of Kolliner Park in the Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) for the new river
crossing. Mr. Empson stated the City's master plan for Kolliner Park, prepared in 1998,
calls for a swimming beach, fishing pier, and other amenities. Mr. Empson said he was
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surprised to find that the EIS calls for Kolliner Park to be turned back to a natural state.
He noted that when a new river crossing is constructed, the lift bridge will be used for
pedestrian/bike traffic and the pavement to Houlton on the Wisconsin terminus of the
bridge removed. He suggested it would be nice to have a picnic area, fishing pier and
benches. He stated the Wisconsin DNR wants Kolliner Park to revert to a natural state as
part of the new bridge package. However, he said in discussions with the Wisconsin DNR
and National Park Service, representatives of those agencies have indicated there is still
room for negotiation on the issue.
Mr. Empson suggested that unless the City takes some action to assert its ownership of
Kolliner Park, it ultimately might end up giving the land away. And, he said, any action
has to be taken soon - before Oct. 26 when the stakeholders group is scheduled to make
its final recommendation.
Members were in agreement that the City should retain ownership of Kolliner Park and
that the City should keep its options open for possible future amenities such as a fishing
pier, benches, picnic area, etc. Ms. Flinn moved to recommend that the City Council take
action to maintain ownership of Kolliner Park and to keep its options open for potential
future uses as outlined in the City's Master Plan. Ms. Snellman seconded the motion;
motion passed unanimously. Mr. Kriesel will take the matter to the City Council, and Mr.
Russell will write a memo to the Council outlining the Park Board's
position/recommendation.
Carriage Ride Use Permit - Keith Becklin and Robin School
Mr. Becklin was present and briefly reviewed his request to operate a one-horse carriage.
He stated he was open to suggestions as to where to park the carriage. Ms. Flinn asked
about the parking arrangement for the trolley. Mr. Russell said the trolley operator has a
use permit and pays rent to the City for its parking spaces. Mr. Russell pointed out that
there will be a lot of activity in the Lowell Park area in the near future and suggested that
if Mr. Becklin plans to go under the bridge, getting back to his pick-up/drop-off spot
might be a problem.
Mr. Polehna pointed out the question for the Park Board to consider is whether the Board
has a problem with the applicant's use of Lowell Park/Sam Bloomer Way. He noted the
City Council will have to decide on the issue of the pick-up/drop-off 10cation. The
consensus was the Board is not opposed to the proposed use.
Ms. Snellman made a motion to indicate to the City Council that if the Council approves
the use permit, the Park Board is not opposed to the use of Sam Bloomer Way. Ms.
Amrein seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously.
Park requests:
Skateboard Park - Jeff Melstrom was present. Mr. Melstrom is proposing to build an
20,OOO-square-foot indoor skateboard park if the City will donate a site, specifically the
site the City owns near the Rec Center that is currently used for salt storage.
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Members talked about the difficulty in asking the City to donate the site, especially since
that site has been located at as a possible 10cation for a community center, as well as a
potential satellite public safety facility. Members also pointed out the Board has had
preliminary discussions with Salvation Army representatives about a cooperative venture
for a skateboard facility. It was also noted the City has budgeted $50,000 in the 2005 CIP
for an outdoor facility.
Mr. Polehna and Mr. Kriesel suggested it might be possible to incorporate an indoor skate
park into plans for a community center. It was agreed to keep Mr. Melstrom updated on
the progress of those plans.
Kolliner Park maintenance - Patrick Nelson was present representing a group of four or
five North Hill residents who often hike in Kolliner Park and volunteered to clean up the
park on a regular basis. He noted the City does have an Adopt-A-Park pIan. He asked
about trash disposal. Mr. Thomsen said his department would make arrangements for
dbposal.
Ms. Amrein brought up the issue of the City's arrangement with Jim GannonlValley
Cruisers for use of the Kolliner Park in exchange for cleanup. It was noted that Mr.
Gannon had moved from the area, and there was a question as to whether the
organization was even in existence any longer. It also was pointed out that the agreement
didn't give Mr. Gannon exclusive use of the park.
Members were in agreement that the previous arrangement with Mr. Gannon shouldn't
have anything to do with Mr. Nelson's offer. Mr. Polehna thanked Mr. Nelson for his
offer and reminded him that his group can't do any pruning of vegetation.
Request for extension of Lowell Park hours for a wedding - No one was present
regarding this request. Mr. Kriesel moved to deny the request. Ms. Snellman seconded
the motion; motion passed unanimously.
New Rec Center fees - Mr. Polehna informed members that the Council had approved
the new fee structure, and the new fees are being implemented. Groups that had
negotiated for time before the new schedule was adopted are grandfathered in under the
old fees. Mr. Polehna said he was going to the Hockey Board to explain the reasons
behind the new fees. Mr. Polehna also said the Council had given permission for him to
contact the Salvation Army regarding the Kroc Foundation money that is available for
construction of community centers. He said he had contacted a Salvation Army
representative, but has heard nothing back at this time.
Other items:
There was discussion of a letter from the Stonebridge Elementary School PT A asking for
funding assistance for the school's new playground equipment. Several members felt that
doing so would set a bad precedent. Others felt it would be appropriate to at least fund a
basketball court since the city closed the Staples Field court, which serves the area. It was
decided to ask a representative of the PT A to attend the next Park Board meeting to
discuss the issue.
Ms. Snellman, seconded by Mr. McGarry, moved to adjourn at 9: 10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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Date:
November 23, 2004
To:
Park Board
From:
Tim Thomsen, Public Works Superintendent
Subject: Northland Park Hockey Rink Request
Attached is an email request from Robert Kaufman for using Northland Park Hockey
Rink and Warming House for Stillwater Hockey Association Mites Program. As you
know we no 10nger have the warming house open anymore because of little or no use
and budget cuts. Previously we hired attendants to open and close it 7 days a week.
I forwarded this request onto Larry Hansen, Steve Russell, Dave Magnuson and Klayton
Eckles for their response. Steve agreed that this request should go before the Park
Board. Klayton stated, "Being a user ofthis rink, I think it's important to point out that
it is the best city rink by far, and it gets used pretty heavily by the general public. When
I've been at the rink, there has always been other people, and quite often pickup games
of hockey ect... It's the only rink with hockey boards in the city that the public can use.
On the other hand my kid is a mite. So I think it's important for the park board to weigh
in on this."
I believe this request can be honored. Maybe Dave M. can draw up an agreement with
the Stillwater Hockey Association Mites Program to cover what might be needed to do
this. Possibly also have them pay for the heat and electric that will be used.
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Kaufman [mailto:rkaufman@channelpowersolutions.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 12:57 PM
To: Tim Thomsen
Cc: 'Robert Kaufman'
Subject: Croixwood Hockey Request...
Hi Tim - as we discussed, I am formally requesting the opportunity to "reserve" the Croixwood hockey arena for2 or 3 evenings
each week from late December through February (or sooner or later based on mother nature!). I am on the Stillwater Hockey
Association Mites Committee and we have had tremendous growth in the program recently. This year, we have over 250 mites (5
to 8 year olds) that are interested in playing games outside this winter. With that many kids, it would be critical for us to be, able to
use the warming house. I would be responsible for ensuring that the warming house is opened shortly before kids arrive (heat
turned on) and locked when they leave (heat turned off). I would also ensure that the lights are taken care of as well. Last, I
could give a "damage" deposit to the city to ensure that we follow through on our promises of using the facility as one would
expect.
We are flexible with which days we reserve the rink, but would prefer Tuesday through Thursday as Mondays and Fridays are
often busy for people (plus we skate at the rec center on Saturday and Sunday). I would schedule 2 or 3 games each night for
one hour each. The latest game would start at 7:30 so that we are done and shut down by 8:30 or 9:00 at the latest.
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me on my cell phone at 612-363-0479. I would like to let all of the parents know as
soon as possible so that people can arrange their schedules. Do you have any idea as to when you can get back to me about
whether this would work? It will be great for the kids! Thanks.
Bob Kaufman
MEMORANDUM
To:
Park and Recreation Commission
From:
Sue Fitzgerald, Planner
Date:
November 29,2004
Subject:
Neighborhood Park Design Meetings
Schulenburg Park Meeting - October 28, 2004.
Settlers Glen Park Meeting - November 4, 2004
Meetings were held with neighborhood residences to discuss what types of activity they would
like to see in their parks. Questionnaires and meeting notices were sent to homes within 350-
degree radius of the two parks involved.
Schulenburg Park Meeting
The City received one (1) questionnaire back through the mail. Five or six people and Linda
Amrein attended the meeting. The general consensus of those who attended the meeting was that
the park be about the same as it was before it was used for the staging area of the North Hill
water and sewer project. They were all in agreement that the park activities be relatively low
impact with low noise levels. That statement would exclude a large ball field and or a
skateboard park. Some of the suggestions from those attending were the following list:
1. Little League ball field
2. Water fountain
3. More trees
4. Benches
5. Pick up after your dogs sign
6. Small play structure
7. Boulders
8. Sledding
9. Ice skating
10. Keep Schulenburg Park sign
11. Landscaping around the sign
12. Historic interpretation
13. Grass - no paths
Their issues included the following:
1. Safety
2. Noise
3. Parking
4. Dutch Elm on large tree
5. Erosion
6. Replace play structure
7. Hazardous materials in the ground
8. No additionallighting
There will be a follow up meeting in January 2005. All of the North Hill residents will be
invited to critique the City's conceptual designs for the park.
Settlers Glen Park Meeting
Again, those who attended the meeting (15) wanted a low key, quiet park. Their suggestions
included the following:
1. No pathways
2. The play equipment should be for the 1 to 10 year old group
3. Benches
4. A gazebo
5. Pick up after your dogs sign
6. No softball
7. Bocce ball court
8. Ice skating
9. Boulders
Their issues included the following:
1. Noise
2. Safety
3. Parking
4. Poles marking the comers of their lots
Since there is a Settlers Park in Liberty Village, the residents were asked to suggest a name for
the park. Prairie Park was voted on for the name.
A meeting will follow in January 2005 to critique the City's conceptual designs for Prairie Park.
When dates are set for these meetings, the Commission will be informed so for those of you wish
to attend.
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Engineers & Architects
November 1,2004
Klayton Eckles and Steve Russell
City of Stillwater
216 North 4th Street
Stillwater, MN 55082
Re: Proposal for Open Space and Trail Planning
Dear Klayton and Steve:
Thank you for requesting a scope of services description and estimate for completing a Master
Plan for trails and open space in the Brown's Creek Park and Nature Preserve area. Our scope
and cost estimate are provided in the form of this letter agreement between the City of Stillwater
("City") and Bonestroo, Rosene, Anderlik and Associates ("Consultant").
Project Description
In March 2000, the City completed a plan for managing Brown's Creek Park and Nature
Preserve. Since that time, the City has taken steps to implement the plan, and to develop some
trails in the area and a Public Works facility. City staff have determined that the City would
benefit from a broader Master Plan for trails and open space in the area between Brown's Creek
Park and Nature Preserve and Long Lake. The Master Plan should include an estimate of
resources needed for plan implementation and maintenance over the long term.
The completion of a Master Plan for trails and open space around Brown's Creek and its
Tributaries will include the following:
. An update ofthe Brown's Creek Park and Nature Preserve Plan, to identify tasks
completed, and next steps for management of natural communities at these properties
. Recommendations regarding interpretation of the farmstead, woodland and natural
communities in Brown's Creek Nature Preserve
. Recommendations for development of the Munkelwitz property, recently acquired by the
City
. Recommendations for trail connections from the Brown's Creek Park and Nature
Preserve to the Public Works facility and adjacent open space, and to Long Lake area
trails
. Recommendations for development of the open space areas adjacent to the Public Works
Building, including the historic cemetery area
. Recommendations for long-term maintenance of trails and open space in the area
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· Cost estimates and staff resources needed for maintenance of trails, park and open spaces
in the study area
Scope of Basic Services
BRA staffwill complete the following Basic Services for this project:
1. Update the Brown's Creek Park and Nature Preserve Plan and add recommendations for
Site interpretation and future development of the adjacent Munklewitz property
We will review the management tasks completed since Spring, 2000 with City staff, and
review the remaining tasks listed in the plan to determine whether they are still
applicable. Based on the review and discussion with staff, and a field visit to the site, we
will update the plan to include maintenance tasks for the long term for the natural
communities and trails on the site.
We will work with staff and the Parks Commission to develop recommendations
regarding interpretation of the farmstead, woodland, and natural communities on the site,
and add this to the plan.
We will work with staff to discuss options for development of the Munklewitz property
and coordination of development ofthis area with the Brown's Creek Park and Nature
Preserve.
These tasks will involve working closely with City Staff, including maintenance staff,
and the Parks Commission.
2. Develop recommendations for trail connections from the Brown's Creek Park and
Nature Preserve to the Public Works facility and adjacent open space, and to Long
Lake
We will work with City staff to map existing trails in the area, and identify potential trail
connections from Brown's Creek Park and Nature Preserve to open space areas and trails
to the south. We will develop recommendations regarding trail locations, development
and interpretation. Includes field walk ofthe trail area.
3. Recommendations for development of the open space areas adjacent to the Public
Works Building, including the historic cemetery area
City staff have indicated that the open space areas adjacent to the Public Works facility
could be developed for active and passive recreational uses. We will work with staff and
the Parks Commission to develop recommendations for use and development of these
areas, and trail connections to Brown's Creek Park and Nature Preserve and Long Lake.
Includes field investigation of the open space area.
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4. Recommendations for long-term maintenance of trails and open space in the area
As the City develops additional trails and open space facilities in the Annexation Area, it
needs to determine the long-term maintenance requirements for these facilities, and the
staff and resources that will be needed to maintain the new facilities. We will work with
staff to develop a maintenance schedule and cost estimates for the proposed facilities.
5. Meetings
Completion of tasks 1-4 will require close collaboration with City Planning and Public
Works staff, including maintenance staff, and with the Parks Commission. We estimate
that seven meetings will be required to complete the Master Plan, maintenance plan, and
cost estimates. These include four meetings with staff to review the existing plan and
activities to data in the study area, review current maintenance and discuss needs for the
future, and review drafts of the new plan; two meetings with the parks Commission to
discuss issues and options and review a draft plan; and one meeting to present the final
plan to the City Council.
City Responsibilities
City staff will provide all existing reports and mapped information for the study area.
Staff will update electronic maps showing existing trails in the area. Staff will coordinate
meetings with City staff and Parks Commission. Staffwill review draft plans, and
provide comments and suggestions.
Compensation
Costs associated with the above tasks are estimated as follows:
Task Description and Hours
Estimated
Cost
1.
Update existing plan; add site interpretation; and recommendations on
Munkelwitz property
Landscape architect/ecologist, 20 hrs @ $92
Gra hic/GIS s ecialist, 4 hr. 4 hrs $75
Develop trail connection plan (includes field visit)
Landscape architect/ecologist, 12 hrs @ $92
Gra hie/GIS s cialist, 2 hr. $75
Develop plan for open space areas adjacent to Public Works facility
Landscape architect/ecologist, 20 hrs @ $92
Gra hie/GIS s cialist, 4 hr. $75
Develop maintenance schedule and cost estimates
Landsca e architect/ecolo . st, 20 hrs $92
Meetings, 7 meetings at 5 hrs each, including travel & meeting prep
Landsca architect/ecolo' st, 35 hrs $92
Reimburseable ex nses-travel, color co ies
Pro.ect Total
$ 1,840
$ 3,220
$ 400
$12,098
$ 2,944
300
2.
$ 1,104
150
3.
$ 1,840
300
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5.
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2335 West Highway 36. St. Paul, MN 55113.651-636-4600. Fax: 651-636-1311
For completion of the Basic Services outlined above, the City will pay the Consultant on an
hourly basis in accordance with the Billing Rate Schedule attached as Appendix, with a not to
exceed fee of$12,098 without authorization from the City, including up to $400 reimbursable
expenses.
Additional meetings, design and construction services may be provided when authorized by the
City as Supplemental Services, and will be billed at the hourly rates shown on the Billing Rate
Schedule, attached, plus reimbursable expenses.
Please call me at (651) 604-4758 to discuss this proposal. Thank you for requesting our services
for this project.
Sincerely,
BONESTROO, ROSENE, ANDERLIK & ASSOCIATES
Sherri A. Buss, M.L.A.
Project Manager
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Met110randum
Date: November 23, 2004
To: Park Board
From: Tim Thomsen, Public Works Superintendent
Subject: Winter Skating Rinks
Winter Skating Rinks 2004
Rinks
Inside Rinks
Hockev Rink
Pleasure Rink
Lily Lake Sports Complex
Outside Rinks
Benson Park
Legends Park
Meadowlark Park
Northland Park*
Old Athletic Field
Oak Park School
Staples Park
Triangle Park
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1
1
1
1 1
1
1
1
1
Rink Totals
4 Hockey Rinks 8 Pleasure Rinks
*Warming House is closed