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STILLWATER PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD
MEETING NOTICE
November 26, 2001
The Stillwater Parks and Recreation Board will meet on Monday, November 26,2001 at
7:00 p,m. at Stillwater City Hall in the Council Chambers Conference Room 213, 216 N,
4th Street.
AGENDA
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Approval of October 22, 2001 Minutes,
2, Discussion of Maintenance of Kolliner Park - Gannon
3, Staples Park Planning,
4, Update Parks & Open Space Task Force.
5. Other items,
CITY HALL: 216 NORTH FOURTH STILLWATER, MINNESOTA 55082 PHONE: 651-430-8800
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Parks and Recreation Board
Oct. 22, 2001
Present: Mike Polehna, chairperson
Linda Amrein, Dawn Flinn, David Junker, Wally Milbrandt and Sandy Snellman
Others: Community Development Director Steve Russell, City Administrator Nile Kriesel
Absent: Rob McGarry
Mr. Polehna called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Junker, seconded by Mr. Milbrandt, moved approval of the minutes of
Sept. 24, 2001, as presented; motion passed unanimously.
Jim Gannon/Kolliner Park
Mr. Gannon and his wife were present. Mr. Gannon explained that he/Valley Cruisers Club
members pick up the park every weekend. Mr. Gannon also stated that he gets calls, sometimes
in the middle of the night, from the St. Croix County, Wis., Sheriffs Department if there's
trouble and either he or someone from Valley Towing responds to the situation, Regarding the
boat being moored there, he said the boat has always been there. He also stated the City had an
agreement that allowed the Club to moor the boat there in exchange for policing/cleaning the
park.
Mr. Kriesel stated he appreciates what the Mr. Gannon and club members have been doing, but
expressed a concern about potential liability to the City if Mr. Gannon responds to potentially
dangerous situations. Mr. Junker agreed that policing the area is far different than keeping the
park clean; he did state he thought the Club's presence has been a benefit to the park. Ms. Flinn
asked how important it is to moor the boat there; Mr. Gannon said it let's people know someone
is around, and he stated that he or a Club member is on the boat nearly every weekend,
Later in the meeting, members discussed their reaction to Mr, Gannon's presentation and
thoughts regarding a possible recommendation to the City Council. Mr. Russell noted that
enforcement should not be the role of Mr. Gannon or the Club, and members were in consensus
that Mr. Gannon should not be involved in such situations.
Mr. Milbrandt suggested the issue is whether the Board thinks the City is getting a good deal
from the arrangement that allows the Club exclusive use of Kolliner Park, Mr, Milbrandt noted
there is documentation that St. Croix County thinks the Club's presence is of benefit. Mr, Junker
noted that the Club takes pride in what it has done at the park and said he thought the Club's
presence is of benefit. Mr. Junker and Ms, Flinn said they thought the mooring of the boat there
also was of benefit in giving the perception that someone is in the park. Ms, Amrein, as did other
members, said the arrangement should be subject to annual renewal, and Mr. Russell said he
thought the arrangement should be a written contract. Mr. Polehna said he had no problem with
the Club cleaning and using the park, but said he had a problem with the boat; he also stated he
would like to see statistics from St. Croix County.
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The matter will be discussed further at the November meeting, with a possible recommendation
made to the City Council. .
Lowell Park Plan
Bill Sanders, consulting architect, presented revised plans that incorporated members'
comments/concerns expressed during the August meeting, Mr. Sanders noted the revisions
include the relocation of the performance/shelter, reduction in the scale of the tot lot and
relocating the walks to tie into the performance structure. He stated the center circle at the north
of the park is still envisioned as a feature of some sort - landscape/sculpture etc,
Cost of the basic elements, minus the structures, is about $450,000. At Mr. Junker's request, Mr.
Sanders provided the following breakdown: site preparation, $15,000; earth work, $25,000;
walkways (some concrete pavers), $189,000; picnic tables (10 with concrete pads), $20,000;
benches, $30,000; lighting (20), $70,000; signage, $10,000; landscaping, $48,000; concrete
steps, $32,000; play area, $30,000-$40,000.
Mr. Milbrandt expressed a concern that if significant performance events are moved to the north,
picnic tables might not be in the appropriate positions. Mr. Sanders said that issue will be taken
into consideration, allowing for flexibility so as not to interfere with events, Mr. Kriesel stated
Hank Sampson was supposed to be in attendance to express the Noon Rotary Club's interest in
assisting the City in paying for a formal. garden/fountain area. Mr. Polehna noted the issue of a
permanent band shell structure was a concern at the last discussion; he suggested the possibility
of having a portable facility, like the city of Plymouth has, rather than a permanent structure.
There was some discussion regarding eliminating the proposed restroom. Mr. Russell noted that
staff has reviewed that proposal and found the cost to be significant; he stated that it is unlikely
the restroom or performance structure will be part of the first phase of implementation,
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Ms. Amrein expressed a concern about the possible construction of a parking structure in the
proposed plaza area at the Maple Island parking lot site,
Mr. Junker, seconded by Ms. Snellman, moved to give conceptual approval to the revised plans;
motion passed unanimously, Mr. Kriesel stated he will tell Mr. Sampson to work with Mr.
Russell regarding the plans for the formal garden.
Bicycle race
David LaPorte was present representing Touchstone Energy Bicycle Festival, a four-day festival
that raises funds for Camp Heartland. Organizers are interested in holding the road race portion
of the event in Stillwater, Winona or Red Wing the weekend of June 15, Mr. LaPorte said he has
had some initial conversations with some local people, as well as the Chamber which is
supportive of holding the race here, The initial proposal is to have the race start and end in
Lowell Park.
Mr. Junker noted the race date coincides with the Taste of the Valley event and would be a great
tie-in, Mr. Junker, seconded by Ms. Flinn, moved to endorse the concept of holding the bike race
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in conjunction with the Taste of the Valley the weekend of June 14-16. Motion passed
unanimously.
Neal Avenue path
Mr. Polehna said he had called Mrs. Bird, who had written to the Board with a request for a path
on Neal Avenue and a concern about the lack of parks in that section of the City, and talked with
her about the cost of the piece of property that had been considered for park use. It was noted
that two parks will be developed in the near future - one in the Orrin Thompson development
and the other at the city's public works facility. Mr. Russell also noted there is a potential for a
bike/walking path along Neal Avenue that could be done in conjunction with a public
improvement project.
Boutwell Park update
Mr. Russell said the bids came in high for the public works facility, Items have been removed
from the park that will be re-bid separately, The park will not be in finished form immediately,
but the substance of the park has not changed, he said.
Old Athletic Field
Mr, Russell said the plans have been presented to the District 834 School Board, and the Board
has signed off on the plans, The City will be getting grant money for the play equipment.
Board membership
Members whose terms are expmng were asked to submit a letter of interest regarding re-
appointment by Dec. 5.
Other business
Mr. Russell suggested that the Board revisit the Staples Field plans over the winter.
Ms, Amrein asked about budget cuts, Mr, Milbrandt said the City Council had not approved any
capital expenditure projects to date. Ms, Amrein also asked about the Downtown Parks/Open
Space Task Force. The Task Force has been meeting the second and fourth Wednesdays of the
month,
Mr. Junker, seconded by Mr, Polehna, moved to adjourn at 8:40 p.m,; all in favor,
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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THE BI}...THPLAC~OF MINNESOTA i)
city of ~tillwater
Staples Park Neighborhood Survey
The City of Stillwater is committed to providing excellent recreation facilities for your use, Stillwater Parks
and Recreation Commission would like your assistance and input in their planning efforts for the Staples Park
Complex.
To help us understand which outdoor activities are the most important to the community, we are asking you to
complete the enclosed survey. Please return the completed survey to City Hall by January 31, 2001.
If you have questions or concerns, please call Sue Fitzgerald at 651-430-8822, or contact any member of the
Parks and Recreation Commission, Thank you for your assistance,
STAPLES PARK SURVEY
1. Are you or any member of your family current users of Staples Park? Yes 55 No 23
If yes, which areas:
Tennis Courts 29 Basketball Court 22 Playground Equipment 43 Ballfields 27 Ice Rink 44
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How many people live in your household?
29 0 - 4 years old
20 5 - 9 years old
32 10 - 15 years old
93 16 - 49 years old
LOver 50 years old
3, Have you experienced any problems when using the Park?
Yes 25
No 48 . (see exhi bi t A)
If yes, would you please elaborate
4, What, if any, additional enhancements or deletions would like to see made to Staples Park?
Examples:
Picnic Facilities
Places to sit
Volleyball
Other
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Staples Park Neighborhood Survey, continued
5, Would you favor closing the streets running through the Park? Yes33
No 35
6, How satisfied are you with the Park?
Very Satisfied 9 Satisfied 35 Neutral25 Dissatisfied 6 Very Dissatisfied 3
7, Overall, how satisfied are you with the Park?
Very Satisfied 14 Satisfied 28 Neutral 26 Dissatisfied 4 Very Dissatisfied 3
8, How safe do you feel when you visit the Park?
Very Satisfied 21 Satisfied 36 Neutral13 Dissatisfied 2
Very Dissatisfied 1
9, How would you rate the Parks condition and maintenance?
Excellent 8 Good 39 Fair 25 Poor 5
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ASSISTANCE
CITY HALL: 216 NORTH FOURTH STILLWATER? MINNESOTA 55082 PHONE: 651-430-8800
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Exhibit A
Staples Park Survey
#3 Problems
. Older boys/language 8
Courts locked 8
No bathrooms 2
No warming house 4
No skating lights 1
Dog messes 1
Need a better ballfield 1
Loud noises at night 1
Crowed ice irnk 1
More benches 1
Limited play equipment 1
Stray dogs 1
Fast driving 1
Enhancements
Skateboarding 1
Bathrooms 2
Open basketball 1
Gardens 4
Outdoor pool 1
Fence around ballfield 3
More play equipment 6
Volleyball 8
. More trees 3
Warming house 5
Shelter 1
Hockey boards 2
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The purpose of this petition is to p~rmanently remove the
basketball court on the corner of Martha and Aspen Streets in
the City of Stillwater.
Our neighborhood is being subjected to the following conditions:
· Loud noise and profa~D' c:t all hours of the day
· Personal thr~at~'~ hfe and property.
· Property damage In tt\s~{form of broken windows
· Trespass that inol~des exposure and urination
· Alcohol consumption b~t@pth adults and minors
We have worked with the park~~pmmisSion, the City Council,
and most recently, the Stillwater Ralice Department to solve these
problems but they have grown inc'reasingly worse. It is time to
remove the basketball court and return quiet and safety to the
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The purpose of this petition is to permanently remove the
basketball court on the corner of Martha and Aspen Streets in
the City of Stillwater.
Our neighborhood is being subjected to the following conditions:
· Loud noise and profanity at all hours of the day
· Personal threats to life and property
· Property damage in the form of broken windows
· Trespass that includes exposure and urination
· Alcohol consumption by both adults and minors
We have worked with the Parks Commission, the City Council,
and most recently, the Stillwater Police Department to solve these
problems but they have grown increasingly worse. It is time to
remove the basketball court and return quiet and safety to the
neighborhood.
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