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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1999-04-05 HPC MIN Heritage Preservation Commission April 5, 1999 Present: Howard Lieberman, chair Chuck Dougherty, Phil Eastwood, Jeff Johnson, Robert Kimbrel, Frank Langer and Roger Tomten Others: Planner Sue Fitzgerald Absent: None Mr. Lieberman called the meeting to order at 7 p.m. Approval of minutes: Mr. Tomten noted a correction in Case No. V/DR/99-6, the internally illuminated sign for ReMax. He suggested removing the sentence in the third paragraph of the discussion referring to the placement of the sign on the former Amoco standard. He also pointed out a typo in the fourth paragraph of the same case, “moment” rather than “monument.” Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Kimbrel, moved approval of the minutes of March 2, 1999, as corrected; all in favor. Case No.DR/99-8 Design review of exterior signage and awning at the former Maple Island building. Charles Knox, representing Northern Vineyards Winery. Mr. Knox was present and provided three additional drawings for the Commission. Much of the discussion centered on Mr. Johnson’s suggestion that the requested awning be lowered so as to be consistent with the contiguous façade. Mr. Knox said he would have no problem doing that as long as the awning would still provide adequate protection. There was discussion about signage on the awning valence. Mr. Knox said the thought was to have the initials “NV” on the valance. Ms. Fitzgerald said the use of the business initials or logo would be a signage issue. Members suggested the use of generic graphics such as grape clusters, which would be acceptable. Mr. Tomten said he thought the structural style of the awning of the Hardware Store, the adjacent façade, should be duplicated as much as possible. He also said he thought it was important to keep the entire building sign package as presented previously by Stefan Architects in tact as much as possible. Mr. Johnson moved approval as conditioned, with the additional conditions that the awning be lowered to below the concrete band at a height and of a frame similar to the Hardware Store; that the sign be placed on the concrete band; and that a graphic be allowed on the awning valence as long as it does not represent the business name. Mr. Kimbrel seconded the motion; motion passed unanimously. 1 Heritage Preservation Commission April 5, 1999 Case No. DR/SUP/V/99-15 Design review of exterior renovations at 124 N. Main St. Rick Igo, representing Joyce Melton. Mr. Igo reviewed the plans to renovate the building with retail use on the first floor and the addition of a two-story, 2,300-square-foot loft living space on the second floor. A sample of the brick to be used in the living quarters addition was provided; the addition will not be visible from the front elevation. The existing 2’x4’ transom windows on the front elevation will be used; no brick will be replaced on the front elevation. There will be some tuck-pointing done to secure the parapet/tin work. The intent is to duplicate the original storefront as much as possible, Mr. Igo said. The applicants haven’t yet decided on the shape of the new “period” entry door on the main elevation. Members provided favorable comments to the proposal. Mr. Johnson moved approval as conditioned with the additional conditions that the new door be of similar height and proportions as the rest of the building, with the shape of the door to be left to the discretion of the applicant; that the new glass on the front elevation be clear and not tinted; and that Essex green be looked at as the base color for the building trim. Mr. Dougherty seconded the motion; all in favor. Case No. DEM/99-1 Demotion request for a residence at 7155 Melville Court North. Karen and Rick Reidt, applicants. Mr. Reidt was present. Mr. Lieberman reviewed the city’s demolition ordinance procedures. There was discussion as to the background of the request, with the Reidts given permission to construct a new home on the property, with the condition that the existing structure be removed once the new home was completed. Mr. Johnson noted when the original request came before the Planning Commission the property was located in Stillwater Township and the City had no demolition ordinance; later in the discussion, Mr. Tomten noted the demolition ordinance was adopted in 1995, but may not have been in effect when the Reidts case was first heard. There was a general discussion about the potential historical significance of the structure, a former caretaker’s quarters. Mr. Reidt said they are saving the original garage which is probably of more historical significance than the original house. Mr. also said the City Fire Department wants to burn the original structure down in a training exercise on May 2. Mr. Lieberman noted according to the ordinance, a public hearing must be scheduled. Mr. Johnson, seconded by Mr. Kimbrel, moved to set the public hearing for the HPC meeting of May 3; all in favor. Case No. DR/99-10 Design review of exterior signage for the Freight House at 305 S. Water St. Present for the discussion were Rick VanDoeren of the Freight House and Steve Marko, maker of the original Freight House sign. 2 Heritage Preservation Commission April 5, 1999 The new Freight House sign will be 15 feet in height; the existing sign is 16 ½’ in height. The new sign will maintain the current square footage and will be of identical shape, colors and lettering as the existing sign. The proposal was to have floodlights at the base of the sign pointing up. Mr. Johnson said the lighting should be incandescent lighting, top mounted on a bracket so it is not point-source visible. Mr. VanDoeren was agreeable to that suggestion. Much of the discussion centered on the request for a new “pay parking” sign. Mr. VanDoeren said the sign will replace the temporary Imperial parking lot signage. Mr. Langer asked about the size of the pay parking sign; Mr. VanDoeren stated the sign will be 3 ½ x 5’, one-quarter the size of the temporary sign installed by Imperial. Mr. Lieberman asked whether the pay parking could be considered an additional sign. Ms. Fitzgerald said if the sign does not include the Freight House logo or the word “restaurant,” it would not be considered additional signage. Mr. Johnson noted the pay parking sign, with no name/venue, would be similar to other allowable information signs. It was noted the size of the sign could be reduced with the elimination of the Freight House logo. Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Eastwood, moved approval of the new Freight House sign, with the condition regarding the placement of the lighting. Mr. Johnson suggested adding the condition that the colors be black and gold as the existing signage. Motion passed unanimously. Mr. Dougherty, seconded by Mr. Johnson, moved to approve a pay parking sign of about 48 x 30” of a shape to match the Freight House signage. Mr. Tomten suggested amending the motion to indicate the sign shall not be lighted and not exceed 5’ in height; Mr. Lieberman incorporated that in the form of the motion, seconded by Mr. Eastwood. Amended motion passed unanimously. Case No. DR/99-9 Design review of exterior signage for Gordy’s Glass at 1674 Market Dr. Loren Lorenzen, representing Gordy’s Glass. The applicant was not present. Mr. Kimbrel moved to table the request; there was no second. Ms. Fitzgerald noted that the use of a logo is not allowed, so that is not an issue. Mr. Tomten asked whether the request exceeded the allowable square footage. Mr. Johnson noted that the signage could be up to 24 inches high, not to exceed 60 percent of the street footage, and no logo. Mr. Kimbrel moved to approve the request as conditioned. Mr. Lieberman asked about the requirement that the signage be “consistent” and whether that referred to the 24” height of the lettering. It was the consensus that signage lettering style/color be consistent on both building elevations, rather than with an adjacent business. It was agreed to remove condition of approval No. 3. Mr. Dougherty seconded the motion as amended; all in favor. 3 Heritage Preservation Commission April 5, 1999 Case No. DR/99-11 Design review of office building, landscaping, signage and lighting at 1751 Tower Dr. W. Bob Bankers, applicant. The applicant was not present. Ms. Fitzgerald noted the request is for a building identical in style/materials to the previously approved building in the complex. There will be no new signage. Mr. Johnson suggested the placement of the trash enclosure looked awkward. Mr. Tomten moved approval as conditioned with any parking lot lighting to be reviewed by City staff, that the dumpster be relocated to the southeast or northeast corner of the parking area with appropriate screening. Mr. Johnson seconded the motion. Mr. Tomten asked to amend the motion to reflect that all exterior light be reviewed by city staff; Mr. Johnson seconded the amendment. Mr. Lieberman said he did not like approving a whole new building without the applicant present. Mr. Kimbrel agreed, saying he had no idea what the building will look like. After discussion, the amended motion passed 5-2, with Mr. Lieberman and Mr. Kimbrel voting no. Other items: ? Holcombe Architectural Survey draft – Mr. Johnson said he liked the submitted draft. He suggested allowing Mr. Empson to publish the survey for resale with acknowledgment given to the HPC and SHPO. Mr. Lieberman, seconded by Mr. Tomten, made that in the form of a motion; motion passed unanimously. Mr. Johnson asked Ms. Fitzgerald about the status of the grant for the next survey; Ms. Fitzgerald said the grant has been submitted. There was discussion about re-doing an expanded South Hill survey. ? HPC awards update – A list of the award recipients was provided. A typo was noted. Mr. Johnson suggested that “Standard” be referenced someplace in the BP Amoco award so people know which project is being honored. ? Ms. Fitzgerald noted the Victorian Building issue is going before the City Council in April. She said nine new vending machines containing a free jobs publication have been placed at various locations in the city, and Mr. Magnuson has indicated there may be a freedom of speech issue if the City requires the machines to be removed; Mr. Tomten said he may have some pertinent information. Ms. Fitzgerald said Mr. Magnuson also is working on the pop machine issue. Mr. Tomten raised the issue of screening of dumpsters at the Maple Island building when the east Water Street parking lot is improved. Mr. Langer referred to the ATM at Eagle Valley Bank not being screened; Ms. Fitzgerald said the Eagle Bank people will be coming before the HPC. Mr. Langer also spoke briefly of the phone towers on the Wisconsin side of the river. Mr. Johnson asked about the status of the wall pack lighting at the police entrance to City Hall; Ms. Fitzgerald said Mr. Magnuson has indicated the City needs to follow its own procedures. 4 Heritage Preservation Commission April 5, 1999 Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Lieberman, moved to adjourn at 9:20 p.m.; all in favor. Respectfully submitted, Sharon Baker Recording Secretary 5