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Heritage Preservation Commission
March 1, 1999
Present: Howard Lieberman, chairperson
Chuck Dougherty, Phil Eastwood, Jeff Johnson, Robert Kimbrel
and Roger Tomten
Others: Planner Sue Fitzgerald
Absent: Katherine Francis and Frank Langer
Mr. Lieberman called the meeting to order at 7 p.m.
Approval of minutes: Mr. Tomten, seconded by Mr. Kimbrel, moved to approve the minutes of
Feb. 1, 1999; all in favor.
Case No. V/DR/99-6 A design review request of an internally illuminated sign at 6750 Stillwater
Blvd. Jim Palmer, ReMax, applicant.
Mr. Palmer was present. Mr. Kimbrel noted a correction to the case number from that listed on
the agenda.
Mr. Tomten asked about a landscaping plan; Mr. Palmer said that would be completed in the
spring. Mr. Tomten pointed out that zoning eliminates internally-lit signs close to residential
areas. He asked if the applicant would consider going to a dark background or an opaque
background, which he said would actually improve the visibility of the logo lettering.
Mr. Palmer said the requested sign would not affect any residential areas. He said the sign will
be placed on the former Amoco standard and be within height and size guidelines. Mr. Palmer
provided samples of the tenant’s logo colors; after discussion, he agreed that the intent is to
highlight the logo signage and that an opaque background would be acceptable.
Mr. Johnson moved to approve the requested sign, a 6’ x 5’ monument sign, with the moment
structure to be constructed of brick matching the main building, as conditioned, with a third
condition that the white background be opaque rather than translucent. Mr. Kimbrel seconded the
motion; all in favor.
Case No. DR/98-53 A design review request for increasing the channel lettering from 18” to 24”
for a previously approved sign at 2510 Curve Crest Blvd., St. Croix Bicycle & Skate and
Kennedy Transmission. Kellison Company, applicant.
Mr. Kellison was present. He stated Kennedy Transmission would like to use its existing sign
which has a 36” K, with the remainder of the letters 18”. St. Croix Bicycle & Skate would like to
use 24” letters as allowed by code. He provide a sample of the proposed signs/colors for review.
When asked why 18” lettering wouldn’t be sufficient, given the visibility at the location, Mr.
Kellison said the ordinance allows 24” lettering, and the applicants desire maximum visibility.
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Ms. Fitzgerald noted a variance would be required for the 36” K. Mr. Johnson asked whether the
requested signage would fit into the allowable square footage; Ms. Fitzgerald said it is within the
allowable square footage.
Mr. Johnson moved approval as conditioned, with the additional conditions that the Planning
Commission approve a variance for the letters in excess of 24” and that staff verify that the
signage does not exceed one square foot per lineal foot. Mr. Tomten seconded the motion;
motion passed unanimously.
Case No. DR/99-7 A design review request for a sign at 324 Main St. S., Grand Garage,
Starbucks Coffee Company. C.M. Architecture, applicant.
The district manager of Starbucks and representative of C.M. Architecture were present. A
packet of plans was presented, outlining the request.
Ms. Fitzgerald noted the Grand Garage management has not provided a sign package for the
Nelson Alley side of the building; the requested sign on Main Street is in the previously
approved sign package for the Grand Garage.
The applicants provided material samples of the umbrellas for tables in the courtyard; there will
be no logos on the umbrellas. No additional lighting is proposed.
Mr. Tomten moved approval with the condition that the requested sign on Nelson be placed on
hold until the landlord brings in a sign package for that elevation of the building. Mr. Kimbrel
seconded the motion; all in favor.
Holcombe Addition Survey Update – Mr. Empson was present. He said he wished the City
would exercise some oversight in some of the remodeling that takes place; he said often the
aesthetic value is destroyed in the process of remodeling. Mr. Empson noted that the city of
Hastings has a pamphlet of information on how to preserve historic houses. There was a brief
discussion on how to provide/share such information with homeowners. Mr. Johnson noted that
is difficult to put together an ordinance for a local Conservancy District without the surveys, like
the Holcombe Survey, which the City is completing, but agreed that the HPC should pursue
putting together an information packet similar to Hastings and Red Wing. Members had
favorable comments regarding the draft of the Holcombe Survey; Mr. Johnson suggested adding
some type of index reference tool. Mr. Empson said he would try to have the final version by the
April meeting.
Preservation Awards -- There was a general discussion regarding the categories and the
selection process used. Mr. Kimbrel stated his desire to have residential awards included in the
future. After discussion, it was agreed to present the following awards: Standard Station for
facade and signage; Images of the Past and Present, reuse; and Lamp Shop, renovation; with a
special award to artist Randy Raduenz for his public wall murals. Mr. Kimbrel moved to approve
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the awards by acclamation; Mr. Johnson seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously. The
awards will be presented at the May 3 City Council meeting.
Other business:
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Ms. Fitzgerald asked how many members would be interested in attending the Historic
Preservation Conference to be held in St. Peter May 14-15. Members were asked to notify
her within two weeks whether they desired to attend.
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Mr. Lieberman asked about the status of the issues with Video Update. Ms. Fitzgerald said
she would write a letter before the next meeting. Mr. Kimbrel asked about the Car Wash; Ms.
Fitzgerald said it may be necessary to get Mr. Magnuson involved.
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Mr. Eastwood asked about the status of the Victorian Building. Ms. Fitzgerald said Mr.
Magnuson is still working on that.
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The issue of lighted pop machines was raised. Mr. Kimbrel will contact Coke/Pepsi to see if
there are corporate alternatives. Ms. Fitzgerald will contact Galena, Ill., to see how that city
handles the issue.
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Mr. Lieberman referred to an upcoming bridge update meeting and encouraged members to
attend with comments if they so desired. Mr. Kimbrel said another draft of the proposed rule
change to the Wild and Scenic River Act would be available the following week; he will
obtain a copy. There was consensus that the HPC should be involved in the bridge
discussions.
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Mr. Tomten asked about the status of the wall pack lighting by the Police Department
entrance. Ms. Fitzgerald said she was told it was a security issue. Mr. Tomten will call Mayor
Kimble regarding the matter.
Mr. Kimbrel, seconded by Mr. Doherty, moved to adjourn at 9:10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Sharon Baker
Recording Secretary
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